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 What you can do, I can do also!, What's the big deal about DSLR Cameras?

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post Jan 15 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(cheefai7 @ Jan 15 2008, 11:35 PM)
Camera is just a tool. Advance in camera technology is only making taking pictures easy. Look at Ansel Adam back then, he was carrying a big brown monster box around to capture stunning pictures and those pictures still well appreciate now. All PNS, prosumer or DSLR has its own pros and cons, and of course All has the capability to take great pictures. Just pick the one that suits your need.
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I'd like to add, even mobile phones today can enter into that category.
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post Jan 16 2008, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(vichio @ Jan 16 2008, 04:55 PM)
Or Sony Ericssons P1i ? biggrin.gif
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Don't ever buy that phone if you are interested in taking photographs with it. It has a hardware problem where photographs turn out greenish on the right part of the photograph.
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post Jan 16 2008, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(vichio @ Jan 16 2008, 09:01 PM)
really ??? biggrin.gif
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yup. you just take a look at the thread in LYN for P1i users under Phone section. of course, there are some lucky ones who don't have the prob.
but safe to say about more than 90% of units have that problem. so just becareful when you buy one. tongue.gif
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(bitterbutter @ Jan 16 2008, 11:48 PM)
back to the apple and orange discussion, i've been following this thread right from start, as I'm also uncertain which camera should i buy: prosumer or a dslr? damn tough choice.
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what I would advice people usually is:
Are you really really interested in photography?
If yes, then DSLR is the 'only' way to go. brows.gif

Of course, it would certainly help if you join gatherings and have friends that have DSLRs to guide you and help one another. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2008, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Jan 17 2008, 11:38 AM)
Hi brother darthbaboon,

I have to disagree with you that non-SLR can do what the SLR advantages. Here are few points that I can think of... which advantages go to SLR, and in most likely non-SLR like prosumer cannot do;

+ BIG camera attract attention of models in events. The bigger is always better. If they do not look at you, there is no eyes contact in your pictures. Same thing happen if there are a few photographers in a any event, let say wedding group pictures. People will tends to look at those BIG camera as they are the official one.

+ BIG camera feel more pro and will also drive you to better compose, play with setting like compensation and white balance. End Results -> Much better pictures. I see lots of prosumer camera people simply point and shoot. Even got nice scenery, it senget...

+ SLR can go very wide or very tele. All SLR can easily go way below 24mm equivalent. On full frame + sigmal 12-24 zoom, you can reach 12mm ultra-wide!!! Try doing that with any non-SLR camera.

+ BIG sensor on SLR with large aperture primes can lead to beautiful background blur. This is a no-no to any non-SLR camera. Refer to the picture on http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/612019

+ Prosumer camera might offer high zoom range, but thier tele range image quality always sucks. I had seen from my ex-S2 IS and ex-S3 IS, there tele performance are suck compare to EF70-200 f2.8 or EF100-400 L. So in a way, prosumer paper spec might be good, but actual performance is another story.

+ Bigger sensor tends to have much better signal-to-noise ratio, which mean cleaner higher quality image. On my new 40D, I can easy shoot at ISO1600 and enjoy very low noise picture. Refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/612019 on most of the ISO1600. Can you re-produce that clean result with your prosumer?


+ BIG camera plus some L lenses also make you happy and proud for some stupid reasons.  drool.gif  biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif

Hope my words make a sense or two...  biggrin.gif
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LOL. Indeed, I like the way you put it. biggrin.gif

To me, DSLRs have one major advantage, that is the Bad @ss factor. brows.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Jan 17 2008, 11:38 AM)
+ Spending more on SLR also boosting our economy, which will help everyone in a chain re-action.
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Boost our economy? Not boost Japan's economy and make our ringgit value worse if we buy Canon or Nikon? laugh.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Jan 17 2008, 11:38 AM)
+ Sometime with BIG camera, you are allowed to enter media section for some events. Without the right spot, it will be worthless on how good your camera is.
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Hmm. I've never tried this before. You tried before? And will they give you a media pass just by looking at the DSLR?

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post Jan 17 2008, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(fcbarcelona-my @ Jan 17 2008, 02:16 PM)
hehe. i've tried once..but on different situation. at particular event, i'm try to find out whose the performer on the stage. but everyone blocking my view. then i'm put out my dslr..and everyone gimme their way tongue.gif
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LOL. cool. thumbup.gif

Oh yeah. Now reminded me. I was trying to get some food shots at the counter at Jogoya KL, then when people saw my dslr with L lense(fren's one), they all give way and smiled after I took the photos. .. --Priceless.-- biggrin.gif
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post Jan 22 2008, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(derek87 @ Jan 21 2008, 03:34 PM)
1) For me, post-processing is a need in photography. I know there are a lot of photogs in lowyat do not agree with me, but it really helps u a lot when you want you want to bring out all the elements of a picture. Most of commercial photography nowadays are all PPed. So i think learning PP is an additional knowledge in photography. Both PP and photographing skills are important to me. That's what i think.
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Just to add. Most photos are post-processed in a camera right after the shot anyway. So doing it on a PC is nothing that special.

I always PP my photos. They can make really bring my photos to life, especially photos taken with my camera phones.
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post Jan 22 2008, 04:56 PM

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R a D ! c 4 L is expert in PP. tongue.gif

 

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