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DJWC
post Feb 28 2008, 11:25 PM

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Hi All,

I'm new to stock. Is pbank share that attractive ? what's the bottom price for it? When would it giving out dividend?
Can you tell me more about this? I'm a greenhorn in this area. Hope you don't mind .




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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 28 2008, 05:16 PM)
making another note...

PBBANK is moving downtrend after the exdate

today PBBANK closed at 10.40 while PBBANK-O1 closed at 10.50

i wonder will PBBANK goes below 10? if yes, i would like to wait for it at 9.80 rolleyes.gif
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Pbbank is going down due to its china financial risk, caused by usa subprime. but fundamentally, it is still strong
when reach 9.50, it will be an attractive buy.
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Feb 29 2008, 12:41 AM)
Pbbank is going down due to its china financial risk, caused by usa subprime. but fundamentally, it is still strong
when reach 9.50, it will be an attractive buy.
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Hi Chinkw1.


What do u mean by the exdate? i don't understand it. Can explain?





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post Feb 29 2008, 04:31 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 28 2008, 11:24 PM)
To me, bank with  Lowest NPL and high  annual growth rate of 20% is the BEST.
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Of course I know banks with the lowest NPL is the best.
That is why I mentioned that I need to look at the loan performance before making my investment smile.gif
Currently, the bank with the lowest NPL is Maybank if I am not mistaken. They just sold RM1 Billion of NPL a few months ago. That is a very nice recovery strategy.


Added on February 29, 2008, 4:35 am
QUOTE(DJWC @ Feb 29 2008, 12:00 AM)
Hi Chinkw1.
  What do u mean by the exdate? i don't understand it. Can explain?
Thank You.
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You are new in this, so I suggest taking a look at Bursa Malaysia's website before making any move. It is www.bursamalaysia.com.
Ex-date is a date when the investors are not entitled to receive dividends. If you buy anytime before the ex-date, only then you are entitled to receive the stipulated dividend.

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post Feb 29 2008, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Feb 29 2008, 04:31 AM)
Of course I know banks with the lowest NPL is the best.
That is why I mentioned that I need to look at the loan performance before making my investment smile.gif
Currently, the bank with the lowest NPL is Maybank if I am not mistaken. They just sold RM1 Billion of NPL a few months ago. That is a very nice recovery strategy.


Added on February 29, 2008, 4:35 am

You are new in this, so I suggest taking a look at Bursa Malaysia's website before making any move. It is www.bursamalaysia.com.
Ex-date is a date when the investors are not entitled to receive dividends. If you buy anytime before the ex-date, only then you are entitled to receive the stipulated dividend.
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Jordy,

<<Currently, the bank with the lowest NPL is Maybank if I am not mistaken. They just sold RM1 Billion of NPL a few months ago. That is a very nice recovery strategy.>>

If a bank is managed properly, those NPL will not exist to begin with. And, I think you are mistaken about Maybank has the lowest NPL.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...7b2220-e198c1db
<<Maybank's net non-performing loans (NPL) also improved to 2.69%, compared with 3.67% a year ago.>>

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...ebe180-ee5ffa83

<<Teh said the bank's net non-performing loan (NPL) ratio improved to 1.2% in FY07 from 1.6% a year earlier, with loan loss coverage standing at 119%, the highest in the local banking industry.>>

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 29 2008, 06:15 AM)
Jordy,

<<Currently, the bank with the lowest NPL is Maybank if I am not mistaken. They just sold RM1 Billion of NPL a few months ago. That is a very nice recovery strategy.>>

If a bank is managed properly, those NPL will not exist to begin with.  And, I think you are mistaken about Maybank has the lowest NPL.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...7b2220-e198c1db
<<Maybank's net non-performing loans (NPL) also improved to 2.69%, compared with 3.67% a year ago.>>

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...ebe180-ee5ffa83

<<Teh said the bank's net non-performing loan (NPL) ratio improved to 1.2% in FY07 from 1.6% a year earlier, with loan loss coverage standing at 119%, the highest in the local banking industry.>>

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Hi Dreamer,

You are right.

But I think Jordy is coming back to challenge you ( making the forum more exciting ).



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Yup, even Maybank sold off its NPL ratio, it is still higher than Pbbank. Locally, Pbbank has the lowest NPL ratio among all.

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Hi All,


When the best price to buy PBank ? Any ideas ? Do you think that it's the right time to go for it ?Any professional advice.





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QUOTE(DJWC @ Feb 29 2008, 12:48 PM)
Hi All,
When the best price to buy PBank ? Any ideas ? Do you think that it's the right time to go for it ?Any professional advice.
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The " best price " of Pbank that a forumer managed to buy is about RM 0.88. That was more than 10 years old.

Fair valuation at 2008e is RM 9.90. But there is no guarantee that the market price would not fall below this price.

I mean there is no floor and ceiling price, subject to demand and supply factor.

You may have opportunity to buy cheaper later, but not at rm 0.88.

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QUOTE(DJWC @ Feb 29 2008, 11:48 AM)
Hi All,
When the best price to buy PBank ? Any ideas ? Do you think that it's the right time to go for it ?Any professional advice.
Thank You.
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There is no 'best price', the 'best price' is always 'as low as possible'. tongue.gif
You don't know how far a stock can go down or go up.

Also, purely using the figure alone is not accurate to tell. Stock can have stock split, bonus issue which make the share price become 'small'. Just like Genting it was a Rm40, now is RM6.80 but this 6.80 is equivalent to 5x6.80 = 34.00.
Stock price alone means not much, it is a relative return rate potential that matter the most, that's why people come out some PE ratio, dividend yield etc to justify the stock is cheap or not.

Just my 2 cents.

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making a note here...

based on my past two months observation,
PBBANK lowest / bottom price was 10.30...

any possibility to go lower than it? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 29 2008, 05:36 PM)
making a note here...

based on my past two months observation,
PBBANK lowest / bottom price was 10.30...

any possibility to go lower than it? rolleyes.gif
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RM10.30 before ex-dividend. So I expect it can come down a little lower but stay above RM10 if there was a sudden sell-off or something.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 29 2008, 05:15 AM)
Jordy,

<<Currently, the bank with the lowest NPL is Maybank if I am not mistaken. They just sold RM1 Billion of NPL a few months ago. That is a very nice recovery strategy.>>

If a bank is managed properly, those NPL will not exist to begin with.  And, I think you are mistaken about Maybank has the lowest NPL.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...7b2220-e198c1db
<<Maybank's net non-performing loans (NPL) also improved to 2.69%, compared with 3.67% a year ago.>>

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...ebe180-ee5ffa83

<<Teh said the bank's net non-performing loan (NPL) ratio improved to 1.2% in FY07 from 1.6% a year earlier, with loan loss coverage standing at 119%, the highest in the local banking industry.>>

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 29 2008, 10:15 AM)
Yup, even Maybank sold off its NPL ratio, it is still higher than Pbbank. Locally, Pbbank has the lowest NPL ratio among all.
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Ah, my mistake guys! Thank you dreamer for the very helpful information smile.gif
Well then, I guess there is no doubt with PBBANK anymore smile.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 29 2008, 06:36 PM)
making a note here...

based on my past two months observation,
PBBANK lowest / bottom price was 10.30...

any possibility to go lower than it? rolleyes.gif
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The above is based on the assumption that BN is to retain 2/3 majority, failing which price could fall below RM 10..

Just my 2sen opinion.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Feb 29 2008, 06:18 PM)
RM10.30 before ex-dividend. So I expect it can come down a little lower but stay above RM10 if there was a sudden sell-off or something.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 29 2008, 08:21 PM)
The above is based on the assumption that BN is to  retain 2/3 majority, failing which price could fall below RM 10..

Just my 2sen opinion.
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you got the point, i am waiting for the polling day before making any decision. rolleyes.gif
p/s: but nevertheless, 10.30 is indeed a yummy price for me~
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 29 2008, 08:21 PM)
The above is based on the assumption that BN is to  retain 2/3 majority, failing which price could fall below RM 10..

Just my 2sen opinion.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 29 2008, 08:42 PM)
you got the point, i am waiting for the polling day before making any decision.  rolleyes.gif
p/s: but nevertheless, 10.30 is indeed a yummy price for me~
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All,

IMHO, all counters in KLSE will drop in general after GE. The simple reason is the counters are supported aka window dressing by ASx/EPF and so on. After GE, they no longer have to do that and they will use those fund for something else.

So, it does not matter whatever the GE's result is. It will go down.

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Hi dreamer101


Are you sure with your statement ? A lot of forummers is going to take your view seriously.



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QUOTE(DJWC @ Feb 29 2008, 10:13 PM)
Hi dreamer101

Are you sure with your statement ? A lot of forummers is going to take your view seriously.

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Hey DJWC dude,

Wah lao... sounds like a threat to dreamer. blink.gif
Let me amend your statement to reflect what you truly want to say brows.gif :

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Let the NPL accumalate higher, rename it Super Grade Asset Mortgage then sell it to EPF and make super profit.

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QUOTE(DJWC @ Feb 29 2008, 10:13 PM)
Hi dreamer101
Are you sure with your statement ? A lot of forummers is going to take your view seriously.
Thank You.
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DJWC,

1) Ask yourself a simple question, why do we have so MANY ASx offering in 2007? Do you count them?

QUOTE(Kinitos @ Feb 29 2008, 11:07 PM)
Let the NPL accumalate higher, rename it Super Grade Asset Mortgage then sell it to EPF and make super profit.
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Kinitos,

2) You are ASSUMING that EPF has the money to buy. PBBank do not need that anyhow.

3) Normally, this is done with OIL MONEY from Petronas. Do we have the OIL MONEY to do that?

All,

This is simply my opinion. Our economy is sustained by the two OILS: Palm Oil and Oil. Nothing else is doing well. Past few years, our economy is sustained by domestic consumption.

A) So, is enough people HELP or HURT by the two OILS for the economy to grow??

B) Even if the economy is growing at 5% or 6%, our stock market has GONE UP so much that it CANNOT be sustained by the grow rate of 5% or 6%.

C) Then, why the stock market is going up but the economy is not doing that well?? Who are the buyers?

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