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sangterap
post May 2 2008, 12:06 PM

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I wouldn't give fresh vegetables of any kind to 1 month olds. Of course they will be munch on them happily. That does not mean it is good for them just like any other food for the matter. Give them unlimited Alfafa Hay and pellets will do with more Sky Juices.

Read the first page for basic care and husbandry. Pls don't be lazy.
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post May 2 2008, 12:32 PM

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Last Tuesday after work, i found out that Mocha's ears were cold... This continued until nite. But the others (Daddy, Micky n Dinky) were normal... So i let Micky stay in Mocha's cage so they can sit/lay together in Mocha's sleeping box.. After Mocha's ears felt warm, i separate them. Wednesday morning, i touched Mocha's ears and found out the same problem. But he eats, and use his litterbox like usual.. Except he reduces the water intake.. Is he ok? Myb i shud put something in his cage to keep him warm.

And this is more serious ----> i saw some discharge at Dinky's one of her nose... The discharge was white color, sticky and a bit smelly... (before this, i always wonder why Dinky has a strong odour compare to others everytime i kiss their nose...Is it bcoz of this discharge but i never notice?)

I called my vet and told him about Dinky. He asked me to give the medicine (antibiotic n anti-inflamation). My vet prepared me a First Aid Kit for my pets, containing Frontline (spray) n Ectodust (powder) for flea & mites treatment, syrup for bloated kit, antibiotic, anti-inflamation and some vitamin to build up their body (suitable for cats n dogs). All syrups and safe for bunny and other small animal infants like hamsters etc.. and also some cream to apply to bite/cut/wound...

Cant wait to get home to check on my bunnies laaa :'( if DInky is not ok the next few days, i'll rush her to the vet.. Hope she has nothing serious...

Mummy so susah hati wooooo....


Added on May 2, 2008, 12:33 pmTalking about junk food such as Hagen and Briter Bunny, how u classified things as JUNK, sang terap? I've been looking for the BEST diet for my bunnies... but i cudnt find anything better than JUNK. The BEST rabbit food i cant find in Penang (including Butterworth, and some of Kedah area) are plain pellet, Briter Bunny, dusty hays (alfalfa n timothy) from Alfalfa King Brand and alfalfa hay from Bengy (it's a new product here).. I feed them with 3kgs of Bengy Alfalfa, 3kgs of Briter Bunny and 5kgs of plain pellet a month.. That alreadi cost me alot.. But it is not about the cost. What makes me soooo frustrating is to know that i'm feeding JUNK to my bunnies....??!!! sad.gif sad.gif
(Owh, forgot to mention here that i also feed them with apples, carrot, small amount of greens, and a small slice of mango n melon to the Dad..tongue.gif)

I tried to get some BEST product from Kl area... but it's not easy to find someone who is willing to find/search that product for me.. For example, i have a fren who works in Penang, married and the wife is in Kl.. Last month, i asked him to get Woodypet for me when he got back to Kl to see his wife. Instead of RM50 for 12kgs Woodypet, i had to pay RM100.. Sedangkan with that amount, u guys can get 24kgs of Woodypet... Waaaargh... so frustrating u know... And that 12kgs Woodypet can last for 2-3months only... Waaaarghh (now i feel like crying laaa....) cry.gif cry.gif
Hmmm... Any advice (or help?) for me guys?

Hope Beh can arrange some transportation so i can get his product like u all...
BEH, what if i become one of ur dealer in Penang and (Johor maybe)? Heeee biggrin.gif blush.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Anybody who plan to go honeymoon or balik kampung or makan angin or jalan-jalan cari makan in Penang, please let me know if u can help me bring some product from there, ya especially the Woodypet biggrin.gif

And... Does anybody know how to send goods using express bus service (KL-Penang) instead of currier services (skynetz, pos malaysia etc)? Which is cheaper?


Added on May 2, 2008, 12:48 pm
QUOTE(encikapeq @ May 2 2008, 12:04 PM)
WHAT should i give to my 2 little wabbit. like i said they just 1 month old. right now i just give them pellet and "sky juice". sometime give them epal and lobak merah..but not tetiap harila...oohh...this wabbit just a local mix wabbit..
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my vet also adviced me not to give wet food (veges n fruits) to young kit. I experienced a died kit becoz i fed him wit vege (tokey kedai said ok sad.gif.. stupid punya tokey kedai..!). Give ur kit pellet n hay is enuf.. Wait until they'r around 2 months ++ then can feed it with carrot n apple..

This post has been edited by nicoty_yne: May 2 2008, 12:50 PM
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hey.. is briter bunny so teruk? im in sarawak n the pet shop is very limited! let alone the stocks! the best brand i see now is briter bunny.. n if that's also junk.. i should try make my own pellets! hahaha
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post May 2 2008, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(annetize @ May 2 2008, 12:52 PM)
hey.. is briter bunny so teruk? im in sarawak n the pet shop is very limited! let alone the stocks! the best brand i see now is briter bunny.. n if that's also junk.. i should try make my own pellets! hahaha
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Dont worry, I am in the progress of adding in new quality product for rabbit pellet and hay on my sell thread, soon you can enjoy good pellet even is in Sabah or Sarawak.

Edit : sorry for advertisement. blush.gif

This post has been edited by Chinchillas: May 2 2008, 01:13 PM
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post May 2 2008, 03:15 PM

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It is good to have a vet that trust you so much and kind enough to compose a first aid kit for you. Unfortunately, FRONTLINE IS NOT SAFE TO BE USED ON RABBITS! THERE ARE KNOWN SIDE EFFECTS!

Trust me, most of the food you guys feeding are JUNK. First of all, you must know your rabbits' needs. Rabbits below 6 months needs more protein for growth therefore, their diet normally make up of alfafa hay or at least pellets made from Alfafa.

Rabbits above 6 months must have a lot of FIBER and therefore, Timothy Hay and pellets made of Timothy Hay is recommended. For me, I normally look for pellets with FIBER contents that are ABOVE 20%. Oxbow has Crude Fiber max 29.00%.

How do you define BEST in your hunts?

This is how I came to the conclusion for supporting Oxbow:

I need to quote from this famous article about the deadly killer GI STASIS because I believe to make a point, we must always come out with literature proof:

http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html

"VII. Prevention: The Best Medicine

The best cure for GI stasis is prevention. Be sure your rabbit companion gets plenty of dietary fiber from fresh grass hay. Feed high fiber (22% or higher crude fiber) pellets. Be sure your rabbit is drinking sufficient water to keep ingested food hydrated and moving smoothly. It helps to offer at least 4 cups of fresh, wet leafy greens per 5 lbs. of rabbit daily. And don't forget that regular exercise not only keeps the skeletal muscles strong: it also keeps the smooth muscles of the intestines well-toned and active."


Yes, the key to solve a problem is PREVENTION. I am sure some of you here have seen other frantic rabbit owners coming into this forum asking for help that they bunnies are not eating or THEY DIED WITHOUT ANY APPARENT REASONS. GI Stasis was the problem. We need to keep our rabbit's stomach healthy and how do we do that? FIBER!

WHAT SEEMED TO YOU AS YOUR RABBITS' FAVORITE FOOD DOES NOT MEAN IT IS GOOD FOR THEM. For example, I know most rabbits like CARROT. So does that mean you feed CARROT all its life? I believe Carrot has too high of sugar contents and BUGS BUNNY love carrots is JUST A MYTH. Try and feed carrot 24/7 and see if your rabbit live longer or not. I dare not try.

I believe you guys just need to spend more time doing more research. I am quite tired to have to repeat myself over and over again.

I think the stupid one is not TAUKEH Kedai. It is the ill-informed rabbit owner. I dun think TAUKEH kedai know much about rabbits. If you do not know that time, it would be worst to ask a TAUKEH kedai what to feed a rabbit.

QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ May 2 2008, 12:32 PM)
I called my vet and told him about Dinky. He asked me to give the medicine (antibiotic n anti-inflamation). My vet prepared me a First Aid Kit for my pets, containing Frontline (spray) n Ectodust (powder) for flea & mites treatment, syrup for bloated kit, antibiotic, anti-inflamation and some vitamin to build up their body (suitable for cats n dogs). All syrups and safe for bunny and other small animal infants like hamsters etc.. and also some cream to apply to bite/cut/wound...


Added on May 2, 2008, 12:33 pmTalking about junk food such as Hagen and Briter Bunny, how u classified things as JUNK, sang terap? I've been looking for the BEST diet for my bunnies... but i cudnt find anything better than JUNK. The BEST rabbit food i cant find in Penang (including Butterworth, and some of Kedah area) are plain pellet, Briter Bunny, dusty hays (alfalfa n timothy) from Alfalfa King Brand and alfalfa hay from Bengy (it's a new product here).. I feed them with 3kgs of Bengy Alfalfa, 3kgs of Briter Bunny and 5kgs of plain pellet a month.. That alreadi cost me alot.. But it is not about the cost. What makes me soooo frustrating is to know that i'm feeding JUNK to my bunnies....??!!!  sad.gif sad.gif
(Owh, forgot to mention here that i also feed them with apples, carrot, small amount of greens, and a small slice of mango n melon to the Dad..tongue.gif)

I tried to get some BEST product from Kl area... but it's not easy to find someone who is willing to find/search that product for me.. For example, i have a fren who works in Penang, married and the wife is in Kl.. Last month, i asked him to get Woodypet for me when he got back to Kl to see his wife. Instead of RM50 for 12kgs Woodypet, i had to pay RM100.. Sedangkan with that amount, u guys can get 24kgs of Woodypet... Waaaargh... so frustrating u know... And that 12kgs Woodypet can last for 2-3months only... Waaaarghh (now i feel like crying laaa....) cry.gif cry.gif
Hmmm... Any advice (or help?) for me guys?

Hope Beh can arrange some transportation so i can get his product like u all...
BEH, what if i become one of ur dealer in Penang and (Johor maybe)? Heeee biggrin.gif  blush.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

Anybody who plan to go honeymoon or balik kampung or makan angin or jalan-jalan cari makan in Penang, please let me know if u can help me bring some product from there, ya especially the Woodypet biggrin.gif

And... Does anybody know how to send goods using express bus service (KL-Penang) instead of currier services (skynetz, pos malaysia etc)? Which is cheaper?


Added on May 2, 2008, 12:48 pm
my vet also adviced me not to give wet food (veges n fruits) to young kit. I experienced a died kit becoz i fed him wit vege (tokey kedai said ok sad.gif.. stupid punya tokey kedai..!). Give ur kit pellet n hay is enuf.. Wait until they'r around 2 months ++ then can feed it with carrot n apple..
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Of course your rabbit will not DIE eating briter bunny. But basically, the nutrition contents are not OPTIMUM enough. As Chincillas says, he is working out some shipping service there too. You can get stocks from him.

QUOTE(annetize @ May 2 2008, 12:52 PM)
hey.. is briter bunny so teruk? im in sarawak n the pet shop is very limited! let alone the stocks! the best brand i see now is briter bunny.. n if that's also junk.. i should try make my own pellets! hahaha
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This post has been edited by sangterap: May 2 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 30 2008, 02:53 PM)
this i have to leave it to the rabbit mama
i try do anything funny with the rabbit, the rabbit mama will memampuskan aku
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u pay sure no problem tongue.gif
but if my rabbit die i bruce.gif bruce.gif u tongue.gif

QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 30 2008, 02:58 PM)
potong saja then bring rabbit mama for a candlelight dinner....

better still while you having lamb chop or steak with candlelight dinner, the vet choppin off something else the other end....
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QUOTE(beh_yo_rabbitry @ May 1 2008, 01:40 AM)
Oxbow products will be arrived today.
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post May 4 2008, 12:43 PM

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bebee,

The prices are there lo...
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post May 4 2008, 04:40 PM

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another mat lopie's kits
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post May 4 2008, 05:48 PM

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so cute!!!
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post May 5 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ May 2 2008, 03:15 PM)
It is good to have a vet that trust you so much and kind enough to compose a first aid kit for you. Unfortunately, FRONTLINE IS NOT SAFE TO BE USED ON RABBITS! THERE ARE KNOWN SIDE EFFECTS!

Trust me, most of the food you guys feeding are JUNK. First of all, you must know your rabbits' needs. Rabbits below 6 months needs more protein for growth therefore, their diet normally make up of alfafa hay or at least pellets made from Alfafa.

Rabbits above 6 months must have a lot of FIBER and therefore, Timothy Hay and pellets made of Timothy Hay is recommended. For me, I normally look for pellets with FIBER contents that are ABOVE 20%. Oxbow has  Crude Fiber max 29.00%.

How do you define BEST in your hunts?

This is how I came to the conclusion for supporting Oxbow:

I need to quote from this famous article about the deadly killer GI STASIS because I believe to make a point, we must always come out with literature proof:

http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html

"VII. Prevention: The Best Medicine

The best cure for GI stasis is prevention. Be sure your rabbit companion gets plenty of dietary fiber from fresh grass hay. Feed high fiber (22% or higher crude fiber) pellets. Be sure your rabbit is drinking sufficient water to keep ingested food hydrated and moving smoothly. It helps to offer at least 4 cups of fresh, wet leafy greens per 5 lbs. of rabbit daily. And don't forget that regular exercise not only keeps the skeletal muscles strong: it also keeps the smooth muscles of the intestines well-toned and active."


Yes, the key to solve a problem is PREVENTION. I am sure some of you here have seen other frantic rabbit owners coming into this forum asking for help that they bunnies are not eating or THEY DIED WITHOUT ANY APPARENT REASONS. GI Stasis was the problem. We need to keep our rabbit's stomach healthy and how do we do that? FIBER! 

WHAT SEEMED TO YOU AS YOUR RABBITS' FAVORITE FOOD DOES NOT MEAN IT IS GOOD FOR THEM. For example, I know most rabbits like CARROT. So does that mean you feed CARROT all its life? I believe Carrot has too high of sugar contents and BUGS BUNNY love carrots is JUST A MYTH. Try and feed carrot 24/7 and see if your rabbit live longer or not. I dare not try.

I believe you guys just need to spend more time doing more research. I am quite tired to have to repeat myself over and over again.

I think the stupid one is not TAUKEH Kedai. It is the ill-informed rabbit owner. I dun think TAUKEH kedai know much about rabbits. If you do not know that time, it would be worst to ask a TAUKEH kedai what to feed a rabbit.
Of course your rabbit will not DIE eating briter bunny. But basically, the nutrition contents are not OPTIMUM enough.  As Chincillas says, he is working out some shipping service there too. You can get stocks from him.
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FRONTLINE or other chemical products are not safe if u let ur rabbit licks them... As my vet adviced me, Frontline shud be use in small amount to rabbits.. Dont spray to them, but spray on cottonball, and rub that cottonball to the skin affected. Put the colar to protect them from lick the body for at least 45 minutes-1 hour (to let them fully dry).. I used it once a month (or when needed) before bath my Nino (i bathed him at least once a month bcoz he always sit on his urine and wet his body)..

But for the new kits and Dino the Daddy, i'm using Ectodust (powder) once a week.. but it is not as effective as Frontline.

I'm sori i was one of the ill-informed owner when the first time i brought my bunnies (nicky n nicko) home.. U consider lucky to have an internet access at home for u to do research n readings.. I can only access to intenet using office hours.. so i have limited time to do some research/reading. Plus, that time was my 1st time having a bunny (4years ago) and at that shop, they feed them with vege (kangkung, kacang panjang etc). As the first-time-owner, i tot that asking the taukey about basic care was the rite thing, but i was wrong!!! sad.gif

Thanx to Chin for our (ppl who live far) problem getting this products, ya... And hope Beh product can be distributed to the whole Malaysia soon and let's together we fight for our rabbits right!! Heee tongue.gif

Hey guys.. I tought last time we discussed about having a Rabbit Owner Society? I think Beh has no problem if we use his place as our 'base of operations'... (waaah sounds like terrorist pulak!) What's the progress on this? And what if we design officially t-shirt for our forum members? We can wear every 1st Sunday of the month (or anytime!) to support and to introduce our forum to public. I think wchui can help us with the t-shirt matter.. We can propose design for our forum logo/trademark... INEXSIS, dont come with Playboy logo ok? tongue.gif


Added on May 5, 2008, 11:26 am
QUOTE(mypetisabunny @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM)
another mat lopie's kits
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nice kits.. i love those colors.. how many rabbits u have, dear?

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post May 5 2008, 11:31 AM

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another mat lopie's kits
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ah.... drool.gif lovely! Why not taking using better camera, sayang la so nice and cute... blush.gif
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post May 5 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ May 2 2008, 12:06 PM)
I wouldn't give fresh vegetables of any kind to 1 month olds. Of course they will be munch on them happily. That does not mean it is good for them just like any other food for the matter. Give them unlimited Alfafa Hay and pellets will do with more Sky Juices.

Read the first page for basic care and husbandry. Pls don't be lazy.
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i'm not lazyla...but the times not allow me to serach all the info in internet...just got a little time to do thing on intenet....i got no internet at home...i surf this website by curi-curi from wireless connection from kompeni sebelah...huhuhuhu...hope u can understand my prob... and help me to take care of my wabbit by givven me good tips....

by da way...my wabbit eat a lot after i give them alfafa hay...they sapu all pellet and the alfafa also...so happyla...
they also happy...better than before i brought them back...they also much more heavier...(betul ke aku taip bahasa b.i nih)huhuuuh...
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QUOTE(encikapeq @ May 5 2008, 06:30 PM)
i'm not lazyla...but the times not allow me to serach all the info in internet...just got a little time to do thing on intenet....i got no internet at home...i surf this website by curi-curi from wireless connection from kompeni sebelah...huhuhuhu...hope u can understand my prob... and help me to take care of my wabbit by givven me good tips....

by da way...my wabbit eat a lot after i give them alfafa hay...they sapu all pellet and the alfafa also...so happyla...
they also happy...better than before i brought them back...they also much more heavier...(betul ke aku taip bahasa b.i nih)huhuuuh...
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Yeah, i oso facing the same problem.. no intenet access at home.. plus i curi2 pakai ofis intenet during lunchtime tongue.gif .. But no wori.. we have alot of experts here to help u.. Our English also tunggang langgang... biggrin.gif

Heh. thumbup.gif rabbits love alfalfa so much... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post May 5 2008, 09:03 PM

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what pictures are you demanding?

Here's a little TEASER:

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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ May 5 2008, 11:23 AM)

Added on May 5, 2008, 11:26 am
nice kits.. i love those colors.. how many rabbits u have, dear?
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so far i've 6 of 'em
mat lopie&si petot r da parents
debab@mokmok (anak tunggal, almost 2 months)
da 3 kits(still dun have names,almost 1 month)


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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ May 5 2008, 11:31 AM)
ah.... drool.gif  lovely! Why not taking using better camera, sayang la so nice and cute... blush.gif
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my dg cam was already broken
my hp camera wasnt cun lar...
i luved to snap their pics while there were sleeping pengsan wooo....
everywhere they felt comfy..they wud sleep although on da floor hmm.gif


Added on May 5, 2008, 11:13 pmanother pics....sorry 4 da blur view
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QUOTE(sangterap @ May 5 2008, 09:03 PM)
what pictures are you demanding?

Here's a little TEASER:

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omg omg omg omg its mayanne

kidding kidding
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cute bunny

looks like my this bunny
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QUOTE(kcng @ May 6 2008, 12:31 AM)
omg omg omg omg its mayanne

kidding kidding
tongue.gif

cute bunny

looks like my this bunny
user posted image

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CUTE>>>>>super cute...
but too bad i cant have rabbit ady..
having GP now...
haha..but rabbit is so so cute...
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wahhh!! all ur rabbits stay in ur house ka?? dont they poo everywhere??

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