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SkyHermit
post Aug 19 2014, 04:20 PM

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thanks for your info. But what is a trust account? Do I have to open trust account? I read online it says it is for minor



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post Aug 19 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 19 2014, 04:01 PM)
I am a college student. My main aim is to open trading and CDS account so that I can buy shares. The first investment company I think of is Maybank Investment Sdn Bhd because it is popular. Or can u guys introduce any investment company that is good for trading shares? I have few questions to ask in here.

1) In order to open Maybank trading account and CDS account. Do I need a saving account in Maybank first? If yeah, does that mean when I buy shares online the money is deducted from my saving account from Maybank?

2) I have seen Maybank website online and there are 3 packages of Maybank saving account. Maybank2u Savers (2.25% interest, minimum RM250 deposit) , Kawanku Saving Account (0.35-1.65% interest), and Basic Savings Account (0.35-1.65% interest and require minimum Rm20 deposit).

But when I went to Maybank counter to inquire about it, they say there is only one type of saving account and it offers 0.03% of interest p.a only and if no transaction within 3 months they will block your account and have to pay RM8 annually. But from Maybank website I didn't see such package. May i know is it whether the Maybank website didn't update or the staffs there didn't know there are other type of saving account available?

3) Is it possible to buy/sell shares online all by myself without calling broker to do things for me?

4) May I know why with a nominee CDS account we can't buy IPO shares? Is it because IPO shares are riskier?

5) I have read book that says buying share is better because it offers 8%, or 10% interest rate etc.. compared to Fixed deposit which is lower. The question is do we know how much interest rate the company's share offers before buying?

6) I have already read some local books about basic stock trading. Should I read those technical analysis, moving average, fundamental analysis books first before entering into stock trading or get practical first?
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Nominee account is under the investment bank ie Maybank Nominees for (your name) and it is not under your name diretly and if it allows that to happened there are thousands of nominees account with one broket hence it will be tedious job for everyone unlike direct normal acc under its owner just need to vouch the IC and CDS number

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post Aug 19 2014, 04:45 PM

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thanks for your info. But what is a trust account? Do I have to open trust account? I read online it says it is for minor
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well, if not mistaken, when u go to broker, you open a CDS account and a trading account which is your trust account biggrin.gif
CDS is like becoming a member of Bursa Malaysia..
Trading account is where you put money in and buy sell via your broker biggrin.gif

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post Aug 19 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Aug 19 2014, 04:40 PM)
Nominee account is under the investment bank ie Maybank Nominees for (your name) and it is not under your name diretly and if it allows that to happened there are thousands of nominees account with one broket hence it will be tedious job for everyone unlike direct normal acc under its owner just need to vouch the IC and CDS number
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I know, but I can't think of a way why people would invest via an nominee account.
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post Aug 19 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 19 2014, 04:45 PM)
well, if not mistaken, when u go to broker, you open a CDS account and a trading account which is your trust account biggrin.gif
CDS is like becoming a member of Bursa Malaysia..
Trading account is where you put money in and buy sell via your broker biggrin.gif

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If trading account is where I put my money in and buy/sell via broker.

But what I dont understand is why they want me to open saving account with Maybank first before opening Trading and CDS account? What has the money in saving account got to do with that?
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 19 2014, 04:54 PM)
If trading account is where I put my money in and buy/sell via broker.

But what I dont understand is why they want me to open saving account with Maybank first before opening Trading and CDS account? What has the money in saving account got to do with that?
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so you can conveniently transfer money through your account?
i am not so sure, but i know for my broker, she asked me to do that.
so when i withdraw money from my trust it will go directly into my savings account, without using a check. smile.gif
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 19 2014, 04:46 PM)
I know, but I can't think of a way why people would invest via an nominee account.
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There are certain reasons why they use nominees account especially for those fund managers like PNB and EPF as they have many sub accounts or omnibus account. As for individuals its good especially for those clients working or residing overseas so that when there are corporate exercises like rights issues and merger/takeover where clients have no time to go through the exercise so they can just instruct the nominees to act on their behalf.
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 19 2014, 04:54 PM)
If trading account is where I put my money in and buy/sell via broker.

But what I dont understand is why they want me to open saving account with Maybank first before opening Trading and CDS account? What has the money in saving account got to do with that?
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its convenient for both side to do settlement online and also to facilitate all dividends to be directly credited to your bank rather than issue out cheques and to go to the bank to bank in and wait for another 3 days to clear
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:37 AM

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Hi all sifu please guide me on this stock concept. i have read quite some basic stock trading books but i haven't started playing yet and is still confused. There are 2 main questions that I still don't understand about calculation of stock trading

1) Those books at first talk about the magic of compounding and say why it is important all that. Then they will give an example of calculation with different ROI and say why it is important to have high ROI. For example this one.

"If you invest $2k yearly for 35 years with an interest rate of 12%. At the end of 35 years you will have $1.08m."

My question is about the 'interest rate 12%'. Is it possible to know the % of interest for this particular stock? I mean is the interest rate % constant all the time? What if there is any economic downturn like the 2008 crisis will it still give me 12% every time? The book mentions like the 12% interest is consistent throughout the 35 years without any changes.

2) Using the above example, it says 'invest $2k yearly for 35 years'. Does that mean every year I use $2k to buy that particular stock for 35 years? Which means I will spend $70000 ($2k x 35 years) throughout my 35 years life? Does that also mean I have more and more of that company's stock as time passes by?

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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 22 2014, 12:37 AM)
Hi all sifu please guide me on this stock concept. i have read quite some basic stock trading books but i haven't started playing yet and is still confused. There are 2 main questions that I still don't understand about calculation of stock trading

1) Those books at first talk about the magic of compounding and say why it is important all that. Then they will give an example of calculation with different ROI and say why it is important to have high ROI. For example this one.

"If you invest $2k yearly for 35 years with an interest rate of 12%. At the end of 35 years you will have $1.08m."

My question is about the 'interest rate 12%'. Is it possible to know the % of interest for this particular stock? I mean is the interest rate % constant all the time? What if there is any economic downturn like the 2008 crisis will it still give me 12% every time? The book mentions like the 12% interest is consistent throughout the 35 years without any changes.

2) Using the above example, it says 'invest $2k yearly for 35 years'. Does that mean every year I use $2k to buy that particular stock for 35 years? Which means I will spend $70000 ($2k x 35 years) throughout my 35 years life? Does that also mean I have more and more of that company's stock as time passes by?
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif nope, there's not a stock in the market who gives back you consistent return,
it's just an illustration for you yo start early and reap the benefits of compounding.
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 22 2014, 12:37 AM)
Hi all sifu please guide me on this stock concept. i have read quite some basic stock trading books but i haven't started playing yet and is still confused. There are 2 main questions that I still don't understand about calculation of stock trading

1) Those books at first talk about the magic of compounding and say why it is important all that. Then they will give an example of calculation with different ROI and say why it is important to have high ROI. For example this one.

"If you invest $2k yearly for 35 years with an interest rate of 12%. At the end of 35 years you will have $1.08m."

My question is about the 'interest rate 12%'. Is it possible to know the % of interest for this particular stock? I mean is the interest rate % constant all the time? What if there is any economic downturn like the 2008 crisis will it still give me 12% every time? The book mentions like the 12% interest is consistent throughout the 35 years without any changes.

2) Using the above example, it says 'invest $2k yearly for 35 years'. Does that mean every year I use $2k to buy that particular stock for 35 years? Which means I will spend $70000 ($2k x 35 years) throughout my 35 years life? Does that also mean I have more and more of that company's stock as time passes by?
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I not sifu stock, i try mine base easy understanding.
question 1)
Want clarify, when the book mention stock..they didnt mention which stock to you.
So dont confuse not every stock can compound CAGR 12% aka growth 12% and is Not "INTEREST".

I have few example CAGR %.
http://www.dialogasia.com/investor_investor_profile.asp

You try google.
Maybe u try to see related GLC Oil stock


question 2)
Up to you invest rm2k yearly or monthly. The question buying the WHICH STOCK is more important.
Not all stock can compounding some may stagant, some maybe paper loss like GLC Wing STOCK









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post Aug 22 2014, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 22 2014, 10:09 AM)
I not sifu stock, i try mine base easy understanding.
question 1)
Want clarify, when the book mention stock..they didnt mention which stock to you.
So dont confuse not every stock can compound CAGR 12% aka growth 12% and is Not "INTEREST".

I have few example CAGR %.
http://www.dialogasia.com/investor_investor_profile.asp

You try google.
Maybe u try to see related GLC Oil stock
question 2)
Up to you invest rm2k yearly or monthly. The question buying the WHICH STOCK is more important.
Not all stock can compounding some may stagant, some maybe paper loss like GLC Wing STOCK
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Some books use 'interest', some use 'ROI. Are they the same?

And CAGR can only be obtained after I have observed the return I have made right?
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Aug 22 2014, 03:36 PM)
Some books use 'interest', some use 'ROI. Are they the same?

And CAGR can only be obtained after I have observed the return I have made right?
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I cant coment further until i read the book you reading.
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 22 2014, 03:50 PM)
I cant coment further until i read the book you reading.
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2 different books here

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A company share price is rm 1, the company also has warrant with a price of 0.6 , and ex-price of 0.4.

This week company decide to issue dividend for it's share say rm0.05,
will it's warrant's ex-price be auto adjusted ? i.e. ex-price goes to 0.35 or will ex-price remains 0.4?

normally what will happen to warrant price on the ex-date the mother share pays out dividend?
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QUOTE(repusez @ Aug 23 2014, 06:10 PM)
A company share price is rm 1, the company also has warrant with a price of 0.6 , and ex-price of 0.4.

This week company decide to issue dividend for it's share say rm0.05,
will it's warrant's ex-price be auto adjusted ? i.e. ex-price goes to 0.35 or will ex-price remains 0.4?

normally what will happen to warrant price on the ex-date the mother share  pays out dividend?
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No changes to warrant price
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Why these "since inception" return is different?

Supposingly the iShares U.S. Healthcare Providers ETF will yield more higher % compare to Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Small-Cap ETF ?

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snap...ntExt=INT#tab=1
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http://www.ishares.com/us/products/239510/...e-providers-etf
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Need some help from Sifu. I recently just open under Hong Leong E broker.
I deposit RM500 into my account. But when i tried to insert buy order for 1 lot of share for a penny stock of 0.010. It always appear exceed your trading limits? I thought 1 lot = 100 shares, 100 shares = RM10? Any idea on solving this? I wish to call the bank but they doesnt work on weekend.
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What happen when warrant or call warrant expire?
Must convert or got refund?
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post Sep 5 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(loud @ Sep 5 2014, 09:29 PM)
What happen when warrant or call warrant expire?
Must convert or got refund?
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expire warrant- worth as toilet paper

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