Spartan vs Archilles? Archilles is LARGE leh..Spartan is BIG.
Not so fair fight lar. Maybe Spartan can win oso coz its fierce type and can fight very well.

I keep Spartan to fight with Mindstorm spiders ma.. BigGuns or any big spiders?
Archilles is getting bigger size due to its good appetite. Very active also, always roam inside its case. I've change its case to a bigger one so it can move more freely.
Spartan oso doing very well. Very lucky able to caught these 2 strong fighting spiders. Have to brave thru the mosquites, red ants and some drain place..
Caught from my housing area, Setiawangsa. I think if go other place got alot of leaves plants, can get more big fighting spiders.

Now the male spiders i have, rank in size.
1- Archilles (Large)
2 - Spartan (BIG)
3 - Pandan (Average - Big size)
4 - Tiny (small size)

Still thinking whether i should let go Pandan and Tiny coz not so big.. both are good fighters oso... not the type tat kecut easily.
Pandan is recovering well after the fight.

U got find fighting spiders ? Go find la.. then can vs Mindstorm and my spiders.

I see only me and Mindstorm are the one tat still play spiders leh in LYN.
This type of hobby is dying i think for ppl in town area.... maybe those urban or kampung area still got ppl play.
Last time in my skool days..lotsa guys playing. Even my skool prefect oso got play fighting spiders.
Very popular.. fight in the early morning bfr skool start and fight during lunch break time..
No betting.. just for the excitement and also c the amazing spider fighting skills and strength!

I hope to share this fighting spiders experience here so the newer modern generation kids or guy can get to know about these
great fighting spiders.

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 18 2008, 05:13 PM

Legally, i don't know got any laws say cant capture or let the spiders fight are illegal. Its just like capture ant or bugs, etcs.
Some people oso have scorpions, tarantula etcs as pet and pet shop oso got sell Rhino Beetle.. the 3 horns one tat can fight. RM 30 - RM 120 depending on its size. They can fight too but in a diiferent way by lifting up their opponent till fall upside down. Its to show their strength and also fighting skill. http://www.goliathus.com/en/en-dynastidae.html

Dog n cock fighting is illegal coz most of it involves gambling and most of the time the animal are let to fight till death.

Fighting spiders are natural born fighters. They fight for foods, territory, females and also survival in the wild.
Its also smart to backoff or retreat if facing another bigger or stronger fighting spiders.
Fightings spiders dont fight till death and quite seldom the spiders get injured badly or fight to death unless facing a very fierce opponent.
This also will happen at their natural habitat area if got into fierce fights.

Just like 2 boxers fighting in a ring, the loser will give up and cant continue the fight. If against a very strong boxer, he might get Knock Out.. KO.
U got watch wrestling or boxing? Kick boxing etcs....

Depends on the owners, spider fights normally conducted for same size spider to see which one is stronger and have good fighting skills.
Its also a direct face to face fight and when against chop spiders, its a must. It is to avoid any death or injury 2 the spiders. We let the spiders fight but the fighting spiders will make its own decision how to fight the match.. whether its a bloodied one just a quickie short one.

We let the spiders fight as its their natural fighting instinct for its own same species. The fighting spiders can judge its opponent arm width and size before they start fighting, if it feel its opponent is 2 strong, it will ran off every time when see the opponent no matter how u try to put it to fight. If it doesnt 1 to fight, its ok de.. just keep it back or let it go.

Its just like horse racing.. see which one is the Black Horse tat can run fast and win.
In horse racing competition, some of the horse might get injured as well coz fall when running or etcs..
Do thinks its cruel for the horse in race tracks get whip hard so it will ran faster to win the race?

With proper care and good food, fighting spiders can live well n be a good nice tiny pet.
They will also alwys ready to fight when theres any sparring partners given to them.

Yeah, its depend on the person itself.. if u think its legally & morally wrong, then by all means dont catch the spiders to fight.
Continue to play with ur others cutie type of pets.

Cheers,
v_viper88

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Added on February 19, 2008, 12:25 amI've managed to catch 2 young males and some female fighting spiders from tat type of leaves. Cant find any big adult males there yet
There are also some fighting spiders caught from Nangka and banana leaf. Yeah.. i look for fighting spiders at my places everyday.
Yesterday got 1 neighbour approached me and says he thought i wanna curi his bananas.
Very hard to find large/big adult fighting spiders at my place here.

Pandan is ok ady. It defeated Tiny easily tonite. Just short push and Tiny ran away. Tomorrow will let go Tiny liao.

Yeah.. let me know when u wanna fight spiders again.
No other kakis except u.. lol.. Cant find any good challenger for Archilles and Spartan from my Setiawangsa area yet.
Maybe need to go other place to look for large/big ones.

Cheers,
v_viper88


This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 19 2008, 12:25 AM

Caught another male size spider. About the same size like Spartan.
I caught it at my neighbour house outside leaves. Didn't expect got spider there coz that area quite small and dont have not much leaves oso.

Let it fight with Pandan. It beat Pandan easily. Just arm pushing and Pandan retreat.
After tat, what else? Fight with Spartan la of coz.

Man.. the new spider not so strong .. just short arm pushing and gave up. It ran away oso after i try to fight it again the 2nd and 3rd round.
So keep it aside. Haven't give it any name yet coz not so fierce type.
Will let go Tiny and Pandan later this evening.

Yeah.. caught a medium size house flies alive and put it with Spartan. Spartan killed the house flies nicely and feast on it.

Here are some pics.








This is the what i've said earlier, big and fierce spiders will eat house flies oso even though the house flies size is about the same like them.
The house flies is medium size but its definitely no small type. Last time i saw this happen when i was in primary skool but with bigger house flies.
The fighting spiders was like wrestling with the house flies for some time before able to kill it. Wat a scene...

Hopefully Spartan will get much bigger and stronger like Archilles.

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 19 2008, 01:12 PM

Nice.. ur area got fighting spiders.
Must put in more effort to search for the big and strong fighting spiders.

Post some pics here, it will be nice.

Cheers,
v_viper88

U got play fighting spider oso? I think got hear girl voice in scarycat vs pippy video. U isit?

Mindstorm.. the others female spider in Archilles case oso got laid eggs ady..
After laid eggs, the female spider become so thin.
Need to sepate the female so it wont eat its eggs/spiderlings rite?
Once the egg is laid, it will hatch by itself without the female?

This evening, i let pandan fight with the new spider.
Pandan spider won.. just short push also. The new spiders same size like Pandan but smaller abit if compare to Spartan.
Have let go all the average and small spiders ady. Now only have 2 males piders

Archilles
Spartan

+ 2 female spiders.


Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 19 2008, 11:27 PM

Wow.. long time i no c this type of cute spiders ady. . I think its very hard to find this type of spiders in town ady.. dunno why.
Last time in primary skol i got catch before and keep it as pet, colour abit different Black and white abit. It cant fight. Just know how to eat and rest only..
One thing i like about this cute spider is its arm, thick like crab arms. This is the same type of arms tat i saw in the chinese news paper bfr for
its most biggest fighting spider. Its arms also thick and fat which i never saw bfr.



Man... its very big.. i oso say.. omg that spider is sure KENG n very strong. or Maybe its very old ady?

My housing area only got some average and small male fighting spiders. Not really fierce n strong also.
Archilles and Spartan i caught from the same place small garden opposite Semi-D house. Both have the same colour which is pale light green black stripes .
Its colour is different from other normal FS light green black stripes.
From their fighting skill, i know tat both spiders are really fierce and strong type.

Wa.. u so daring going into Kelapa sawit plantation alone. Too bad cant find any big/large male FS.
My neighbour kampung in Bagan Lalang got Kelapa Sawit plantation, he also got told me bfr the spiders there are big n fierce oso.
Will try ask him look for some big ones if he go back his hometown next time. The recent FS he caught for me at his car is average size.. kecut type.
Maybe just got beaten badly by other fierce FS.

Ur KelapaSawit is ur 3rd King now?
KelapaSawit same size like ur BigGun? Got fight them bfr?

Cheers,
v_viper88

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Added on February 20, 2008, 10:30 pmThis evening caught 2 average size young males FS from pandan leaves and dunno wat type of leaves.. The leaves got 3 colour 1.. red, green and white.
Name the spider as Pandan2 - pandan leaves and the other 1 as Trinity - 3 colour leaves.

Size smaller abit if compare to Spartan.

Around 7pm.. its time to let the spiders fight!!

Pandan2 vs Trinity
Just short push only.. Trinity won. No fight.. Pandan2 seems kecut.. hiya..

Try fight Trinity vs Spartan.
Same oso.. short arm pushing only. Trinity knows it cant win.. so ran away.

Hiya.. not exciting fight at all.. Seems these 2 FS not big enuf and not fierce type.
Since theres no other good spiders to fight, i decided to let SPARTAN fight with ARCHILLES
Both spider size are slightly different abit only. Archilles is large FS whereas Spartan is big FS.
Spartan is a good and fierce fighter so i'm quite confident its able to give a good fight for Achilles.

Archilles is slightly bigger than Spartan so i let Spartan enter the fighting ring 1st.

This fight is damn fierce lasted close to 50 seconds minus both FS fierce fighting stance position.!!!
Its 2X longer fight compared to the 22secs fight between Archilles VS BigHead!!

Spartan bottom, Archilles top.

Archilles underestimated Spartan at the beginning and get push/throw away!!, it then uses its body size advantage to push, chg position and lock Spartan while launching counter attack chops!!.
Spartan is DAMN strong!! Its able to launch alot of chops and tried many times to lift up/flip Archilles. Spartan also good at defend by locking Archilles and it just dont want to give up easily!!.

Both spider fight using all their superb fighting skills and gave their best in the fight! After the fight both spiders were exhausted and injured.
I can see some of their legs when walking didnt touch ground.. its leg pointed up abit.... cant walk much also after the fight coz too exhausted but no broken teeth, arms or legs. *phew.
Fed with water melon juice after the fight to regain energy. No more fight .. need to let them rest to recover.

Those FS fans should see this fight. Its the most longest and fiercest FS fight i've ever seen so far.!!!
To know which spider is the winner, see the video la..

Link: http://download.yousendit.com/45574943553F7746

Archilles and Spartan fight are the best fighting spider fight i've ever seen so far !!

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 20 2008, 11:33 PM

Ya.. Spartan is damn fierce and aggressive in the fight!. From the start of the fight, it attack Archilles till manage to flip it aside!! See how Spartan strong attack push and chop fiercely at Archilles. Archilles was caught by suprised but managed counter back with tight lock and start push Archilles and launch several arm bitting and chops! Both spiders swap position few times and Archilles in defensive mode do a tight lock to stop Spartan from doing more fierce attack. But this cant stop Spartan at all, it cont to launch few more chops, push Archilles swaying to the side few times and mustered all its strength to lift Archilles up twice!! Spartan almost flip Archilles flat down.

Mindstorm, Spartan managed to lift Archilles up twice.. not one time. See the video again.

After Archilles been lifted up 2 times and get push left and right few times, Spartan able to break free from Archilles tight arms lock!
Then it launch its fierce arms pushing attack and both spiders exchanging chops few times. Spartan attack is too fierce forcing Archilles to retreat and jump off from the fighting ring. Archilles was knockout/fainted ! It cant climb up its web at all coz too exhausted n injured after the fight!
I try to blow some air see whether Archilles can regain conscious to climb up but still fail. Spartan on top of the fighting ring is still actively searching for Archilles. After some time i see Archilles not moving, i lift it up using my hand and can see its injured ady.. one leg twisted abit up in the air and cant walk. It just stay on my finger exhausted and tired. Fed it with watermelon just but still movement very weak, put it back to its case. Later i check on Spartan, it also exhausted and not moving already. Gave water melon just but drink abit only. Spartan seems injured more badly from the fight, 2 of its leg facing up the air and at few times Spartan almost fall upside down when i put in on the uneven leaf! Its too exhausted from the fight!! After rest for quite some time, finally Spartan able to move slowly back and i keep it to its case.

Both fighters is totally exhausted and injured from the fierce fight.

This morning bfr work, i check Archilles is back to normal already. Its actively roaming around in its case walking upside down. Spartan also recovering well, but not as active like Archilles, maybe is resting.

Spartan size is slightly smaller than Archilles, its size different is obvious and i can know which is Spartan easily immediately after the fight.
Its actually not really fair fight i must say.

Somemore Spartan been sparring with few others average male FS few days and the same nite bfr the fight like vs Pandan1, Pandan2, Trinity and etcs. Spartan might still be recovering from any injury or still tired from the previous few fights earlier especially after the fierce fight with Pandan1. Wack Pandan1 till one teeth broke.

Archilles since its the largest spider i have, i dont dare to let it fight with other average size FS.
The last fight Archilles had was with BigGun and BigHead about 1 week ago.

I didnt train my spiders much. Only Spartan got chance to spar/fight with others average size FS. Most of it just short arm pushing only, except Pandan1 able to give a good strong fight. Got play with the spiders to let them jump from my fingers to my other hands fingers. Seeing them jump is quite fun. Also go tap my hands and let them fall down with its web and later let it climb up its web. Archilles at the other hand most of the lazing and having fun with its female partner. No fight with other FS coz cant find any big/large spiders to fight with.

Fight with your BigHead? Ur BigHead is bigger abit than Archilles leh.. Archilles is slightly bigger than Spartan.
Tat means ur BigHead is much bigger than Spartan. Spartan is a very fierce FS tat able to knock out its opponent twice already.. Pandan1 and even bigger opponent like Archilles. No doubt Spartan is a fierce, brave and excellent fighting spider but due to size different, Spartan is at a more disadvantage position and might get injured more badly if fight with bigger FS. The more suitable fight is of coz with ur BigGuns. But for the time being, need to let Spartan have a good rest to recover from yesterday ferocious fight.

Cheers,
v_viper88

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Added on February 21, 2008, 11:51 amYa.. superb fighting display by both Spartan and Archilles.
Mindstorm if you free, you can upload the videos in Youtube.

I use Dopod 838pro PDAhandphone camera to shoot the video in the evening. Very lucky the quality is still ok and much better compared to the previous fight Spartan vs Pandan1 which is quite blur. I dun have viewcam like Mindstorm ..

Spartan and Archilles actually have the same colour which is light pale green colour coz caught from the same area. Their colour is easier to differentiate.. if u see the video fight between Archilles and BigHeads. In the video BigHeads green colour is more darker green type.
It also shows tat Achilles is slightly smaller compare to BigHead.

In the fight against BigHead, Archilles bend both its arms inside and look very fierce bfr fight. But in yesterday fight, Archilles arms was wide open when close in to fight but Spartan arms position bend in looks more fiercer, Spartan surprisingly move backwards few times before start fighting maybe because facing a bigger opponent.. need to judge its opponent strength carefully. Archilles charged openly at Spartan even when its near but seems not really serious at the beginning of the fight based on it arm fighting stance position. It was then Spartan pound hard at Archilles !!
Archilles tried its best to fight back after got surprised attck continuously by Spartan. Can see clearly Archilles immediately do a tight lock and push/carry Spartan backwards Even after a fierce push n get flip earlier by Spartan. Its a very strong push and counter attack by Archilles!

Fighting stance arms position can show whether the spiders is really serious in the fight or take the fight lightly.

I think...if FS
Arms bend in deep - fierce fighting stance..more on defensive but can launch strong attk.
Arms open wide - more confident, ready to start arm pushing fast .. more attack but less defensive style.
Arms up in the air - surrender sign?, want to make love?

Bluish FS is rare...my friend chop FS oso bluish in colour and man.. its damn fierce and strong oso!!

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 21 2008, 03:17 PM

Most of the time their legs got injured when trying to hold from getting push/flip/carry/ chg position by forced from their opponents.
Maybe sprained or terseliuh due to to strong attack force. After a long fierce fight, the spiders seems cant move properly or just stay still.. coz 2 exhausted n legs injured. Yeah.. i forgot to mention, Archilles back abdomen oso seems injured abit, can see it try to twist n turn its abdomen abit after tat day fight.

Yeah, fruit juice is best for FS. I fed my FS with mandarin oranges, water melon and papaya juice and the response is good . I've tried using normal plain water earlier but the FS doesnt seems want to drink.

Both spiders Archilles and Spartan are recovering well. Archilles as usual like to roam around its case.
Spartan seems still abit weak not much walking around but still good appetite, yesterday he managed to kill a medium houseflies for food.

Your 6Legs eventho big but very disadvantage when pitted against BigHead. Too much risk leh..6Legs cant afford to lose anymore his legs n arm.
LowLand seems very aggressive..chops n fierce attack.
I see some of the fights is on top of paper.. I feel fight on top paper no so good la.. coz not much grip/def hold for ur FS. It better to fight on surface tat the FS can get a tight strong hold for its legs so it wont easily slip or get push.

Too bad ur BigGun died already.. I think he sliped into the water case and drowned. FS don't like to get wet and get drowned easily.
Yea, clean water for FS oso important.. dirty water maybe higher risk for FS to get sick or die.

The japan fighting spider video seems boring . not exciting.. the other yellow spider seems better but no video.
I've email u a fighting spider pic chk it out in ur email. Got it from some photo website.
Tat spider looks like a tough fighter.

Cheers,
v_viper88



This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 22 2008, 10:38 AM

Ya.. RIP BigGun.. too bad no chance for him to spar with Spartan.

According to Mindstorm, BigHead mated with female spiders few times. I also think and its possible tat BigHead still exhausted after the mating activities.
Archilles also mated 3X, Spartan 1X before fight.

Yeap, fight against chop spider is unfair if get cheap attack from behind/side. Chop spider fight without any fear even against bigger FS and it will fight with the
intention to kill/injured its opponent badly. CHOP spider oso have alot of strength and doesnt get tired easily.

If a direct fight face to face against another fierce FS, its ok coz its able to lock the CHOP spider and counter back with alots CHOPS as well..
A good example is how Archilles do a tight lock when Spartan attack fiercely with few chops at the beginning.
If your FS is fierce and strong, it can defeat a CHOP spider in a direct fight.

Cheers,
v_viper88

*sigh.. this morning when i check on Archilles, i found it not moving and looks like dead already.. Its arms and legs position all bend.
Its different from the other normal FS death. Normal FS if die, its back abdomen will shrink and no white web cover it at all.
I can see Archilles back abdomen bottom is all white and top part is also almost covered in white web string.
Its abdomen is still fat and doesnt shrink in size..







I noticed after the fight with Spartan, Archilles back abdomen seems injured. Can see it try to twist its abdomen left and right abit once awhile.
It also don't want to eat but suprisingly still active can roam around its case upside down.

I can not really confirm whether Archilles is dead or not, maybe its trying to mold and chg skin? Will keep it in its case for few days to observe.
Some spider moulding info
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/InfoNed/blood.html

Mindstorm can u confirm or share any knowlegde or experience u have on spider moulding? U got experience or c see any FS like in Archilles condition?

Spartan seems much weaker after the the fight compare to Archilles but still got good appetite.. still eat n drink alot. I see Spartan like getting bigger already compare to few days ago. Back abdomen is getting fatter coz eat alot of juicy flies. So far still ok.

Silverblue.. FS don't bite, sometimes can feel they rub the legs or teeth on my fingers skin. Maybe feel abit geli but no holes or tear on skin 1.
Other spiders i'm no sure... I saw few different spiders like Spider Besi n Spider Bandar where their size is much bigger and looks more scarier...
I'm more worried about Spider Besi ... its body abdomen top got a logo like "+" sign. Big Spider Besi got big teeth .. and it will kills other spiders n insects with its strong bite.

I'm only confident to hold FS on my finger, other spiders... better be careful la..

See.. Archilles on my finger. No bite1.


Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 24 2008, 12:01 PM

Ya, i oso think like tat.. Archilles stomach is covered with its web. Tats why look like abit bloated.
Its alwys look full type and don't shrink eventho not eaten anything much. I've released its female partner 2 days ago after lay eggs and only left Archilles alone in its case. Got put in life medium size flies n mosquitoes but he doesnt want to eat. Doesnt seem to drink the water i drip in also after the fight but still active moving around his case.

Archilles is trully a strong FS. Its among the best FS i've ever had.

Now i only have 1 FS which is Spartan. Its doing well, ate another small flies this morning.
Spartan look much bigger already.

v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 24 2008, 04:39 PM

If u r new and interested on FS.. maybe u can do some research by reading forums here or read the research papers which i've found from the net and posted in the forum before. The research paper have documented alot FS info. Try and see FS video posted by Mindstorm n me to understand how the FS fight. The videos posted mostly from good FS fight. You cant get this videos anywhere coz theres no video from the internet on FS fight previously. I bet u can only hear ppl play fighting spiders from mouth of c pics only...
In actual real life.. most of the normal fight lasted very short while only.

At places where FS habitat, theres are alwys more than 1 male and 1 female FS of coz.. If the places have alot of leaves, lotsa insects/food supplies, not too expose to hot sunlight..there will be quite alot of fighting spiders. You just need to try to look for its nest or its habitat place hard enough.
If the area is good place, there will be alot of FS and sometimes if u r lucky, u can see 2 male FS fighting direct in front of you eyes at its habitats.

U know why ppl call them FIGHTING spiders? Its because of its amazing fighting ability skills and FS can fight unlike other spiders.. just know how to kill only.

Frequency the FS fight in wild compare to the captured1?.
Nowdays less ppl catch fighting spiders to fight and its so difficult to find other people who have good fighting spiders to fight with. Even if got arrange fight also like once a month? Fight with other own caught FSs also like 1-3 days once if only can catch any FS.
Seldom people fight the spiders continuously coz the FS will be exhauted or injured.
The ones captures, its fight is normally arrange for similiar other FS which is about the same size or slightly bigger/smaller abit to have a fair fight.
The fight depends on its opponent, if the FS fight is just a short and light one, its possible to have few other rounds of fight.
If the fight is a fierce one and the FS injured, its put back in its case for rest. Feed with food n drinks for it to recover. Will only let it fight few days later when its active back. Basically its depend on how the owner take care of FS, the food, its place to live and how the fight is conducted.

In the wild at its habitat, FS have to fight with red ants tat try to invade its nest for dead insects, black ants, other species of spiders, and also its own same species for survival. Hot weather and heavy rain also not good for FS. Its the survival of the fittest. FS will build its nest at a safe place from its predator. Male FS have more risk compare to females FS, male FS alwys roam out of its nest to find food and female FS everyday. The female FS most of the time stay at its nest and wait for insects to passby or wait for strong male FS to mate. If the FS is injured in the wild, chances for it to survive is very little coz hard to move around to find food n water. It also unable to run away fast when predator comes.

When i try to search for FS, I do came across injured FS, 1-2 arms missing, 1-2 legs missing male FS.. small young FS get eaten by ants in its nest.. etcs.. Other species spider like Spider Besi also kill n eat FS.. i also got found some Spider Besi at FS habitats and its kinda scary if its big. This spiders is a killer.. it kills FS as part of its food. FS is different, most of the time for same FS species, they will only fight for territory, female n food. It hardly eat its own species unless if its really hungry.

Not all FS are excellent or fierce fighter. Only some are really fierce and can fight very well. Chance to catch a very big n fierce FS is not easy unless u are really determine to find one... like Mindstorm or me. Most of the FS fight normally just a short 1, just few secs.. coz the weaker FS will retreat n ran ..some even bfr the fight start afer face contact or judge opponnent arms fighting stance. FS able to judge its opponent size and strength base on its arms fighting position and its fierce fighting stance/dance. For the fierce big FS, they will engage the fight direct and will retreat immediately if sense it cant defeat its opponent. A good example here is like BigHead vs BigGuns or Archilles vs BigGuns.

FS will fight most of the time whenever they see each other just like fighting fish. Its just depend on whether to accept the fight n also how long
can they fight. If they see another male FS nearby its area, it will move closer and challenge it to a fight. Its their natural fighting instinct. By fighting also, it will makes FS stronger for survival and stands a better chance to mate with female FS eventho no proper research available on this belief.
Smaller ones or weaker one of coz will retreat or just fight short time n run away.

FS is a natural born fighter. They will not lose it, if it lose in a fight, it will become scared but after sometime it will be confident and start fighting again. Injury from fights whether at its habitat or arranged fight is the about same coz the fighting spiders will decide how it want to fight. If lose, the FS can run away under the leaf or jump away. Its more depends on the FS opponent it fights with. If fight against a big n fierce FS directly... the FS will be exhausted most of the time but will be able to recover fast if well taken care by its owner. Injury like broken arms, legs teeth and death do happen if both FS doesn't want to withraw from the fight but very seldom...unless u can find alot of fierce fighting spider to fight n always let them fight all the time. Normal FS fight are just to defeat its opponent only and NOT to kill or injured them badly. The CHOP FS are the one that can coz bad injury or death for FS most of the time if got attack by surprise.

For me, i feel its harder to find a strong or fierce FS to fight with for those captured one as compared to their fights at the wild against their own same species and also other predators at its habitat.

If u r not sure about what i've wrote here, u can go and try catch one or few FS n also try to look for people who have FS for arranged fight.
Try and see how many of ur FS and ur opponent FS are really good fighter that can really fight well.
Then maybe u can know better whether the chances for the FS to get injured in the wild or arranged fight is more or less.


v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 25 2008, 09:17 AM

Here's latest Spartan pics.
Its getting bigger n more mature, his back abdomen oso turn metallic bronze/brown colour.













Cheers,
v_viper88

Ya, Archillies has died. I've keep its body for about 2 days and finally decided to let it back at the place where i previously caught.

There are no other spiders in Archilles case. Archilles case is inside another 2 plastic case which is surrounded by water. This mean there are two layers of water to prevent ants or other insects to go inside. Previously my FS got eaten by ants during my skol days, tats why i'm extra careful to protect my FS.

I've also released Archilles female partner coz i think too much mating might make Archilles weak. Previously i've kept Archilles with 2 female FS and Spartan with 1 female FS for about 1 month +.
I didnt see the FS mate but the female FS have laid eggs only recently after stay with the male FS about 1mth, and it should be from Archilles and Spartan.

There are no other small spiders in the case and i'm also surprise there are web on its abdomen. Its back abdomen is still intact and no burst sign.. from bottom can see its become white colour already, top also got some web covering it.

I also notice after the fight, Archilles stop eating n drinkin, doesnt pay much attention to the insect food but still active moving around its case. I also try test put Spartan in a see thru plastic case near to Archilles, both FS still show fierce fighting position and ready to fight. I didnt let both the FS fight, just wanted to see both the FS not kecut or scared.

Archilles fight with BigHead and Spartan are among the fierce FS fight i've ever seen.
I'll miss Archilles and remember it as one of my best FS.

Cheers,
v_viper88

Nice muscular cow..

Caught a new average size male FS yesterday evening. Its colour also pale light green like Spartan and Archilles.
Caught it from big leaves plant. Also caught 2 more young males but then released them back.



Dunno wat to name the new FS.. so just called it X.

Kinda thin tho...











Cheers,
v_viper88


This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 26 2008, 10:37 AM

Kenot la.. X sure lose coz Spartan size so much bigger.
This morning after morning exercise found another average size male FS.
Caught it at the lily plants where i release Banglo, Pandan, Lily and some others male FS.
Not sure whether this is same FS tat i've released last time onot.. name it as Lily2.

X and Lily2 about same size.. but i think X is stronger la..coz got colour like Spartan and Archilles.
Better fight with ur average FS... dun want them to fight now coz later injured cant fight with ur FS leh.

Yea.. today i put a female FS inside Spartan case. He is more active already..

Ur BigHeads still active? Any new challenger for him to spar?


Cheers,
v_viper88

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Added on February 26, 2008, 6:41 pmYou wanted to try breed excellent FS?
For commercial purpose or just want to do it for research?

Cheers,
v_viper88





This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 26 2008, 06:41 PM

Oman.. tats very aggressive and its confirm a fierce CHOP spider!! It doesnt want to fight long but wanted to eat/kill the opponent!
Bite throught its opponent abdomen till bleed.. A fearsome fighter.. scary Its opponent are totally defendless against the strong bite attack!

Its smaller abit than BigLeaves and much smaller than 6Legs rite?
I still feel 6Legs shouldn't fight withother fierce FS.. very disadvantage. From the fight i can see it lost balance when kena chop attack.
It also cant lock its opponent properly coz only got 1 arm leh...
Hope 6Legs can recover from tat fight.

After i got the LowLand from u, i've fight it against Banglo, Lily + other FS ,..and after few days i notice tat their fight is equally match.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608348/+120.

U got view back the video of Noname vs LowLand in video frame mode?
I see LowLand actually won the match and still thinks its LowLand.. when i fight it with my other previous FS, i can see LowLand is a good fighter and can fight continuously with few FS one after another 1. Eventho after sometime LowLand lost, but it still not Kecut easily and give good fight back and won back. Only after lose to Archilles, LowLand seem to kecut abit but recover quite fast.

FS fighting skill changes from time to time. Some FS i keep also turn out to be very aggressive and fierce.

Ur FS Jack... is it same size like BRO1, TopMan and KelapaSawit?
From the video, Jack looks quite big also. So Jack now is No. 1-2 ady?

The new FS i caught X and Lily2 i chk again this morning seems quite big abit ady..maybe fat coz yesterday fed them with some small leaf flies..

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 27 2008, 02:15 PM

Ya.. i do agree CHOP have advantage if fight a normal FS in a head on match bcoz of its fierce bite attack n determination to kill but there are still possibility a CHOP spider also can be defeated by other fierce and strong normal FS.

I've VS my friend's CHOP spider in my skool days and my normal FS also can give the CHOP spider a good long fight before lost....
Alot of arm lock, pushing and bitting...a normal fierce FS wont retreat easily even when facing a CHOP FS.
It will wack the CHOP back and want to win the fight .. . Some normal fierce FS also will fight to death in a long fierce fight.

Normal Fierce FS also can launch strong and powerful chop attacks during fight also.
BigHead vs Archilles.
Archilles vs Spartan.

Both FS chop attacks more about +/- 10 times and still stand fight without retreat!

Video where Chop lost to normal FS.

Romeo vs smallchop...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTA9MwqeFUY

A CHOP FS also same like a normal FS, the only different is its fighting techniques... very very fierce fighter.

Cheers,
v_viper88



This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 27 2008, 06:52 PM

Wa.. 6Leg gone liao.
Mindstorm u let them fight again at nite or put in same case? Sure die la...injured badly from fight with BigHead and Jack earlier.

Eventho 6Leg is big chop, i dun think its a fierce or strong fighter from the video u posted earlier. 6Leg cant last long in fierce fight due to its physical disadvantage..
Don't think it can hold a strong push and balance properly if got chop fiercely by its opponent. If fight with a normal strong FS i feel 6Legs will lose most of the time also. If fight with fierce chop.. i think no chance to win at all.

I feel its better to fight CHOP with CHOP but same size and no handicap1..

Today not working. Caught another medium size FS from the same place i caught Archilles and Spartan. Name it as X2.
Also caught a small male FS named it as Tiny2.

Heres the video of their fight.
Short fight only but got some chops. No FS injured or dead.

X vs X2. (X won)
X chop 2X, X2 chop 1 time
Link: http://download.yousendit.com/CDCB2F795A412FCC

X2 vs Lily2 (Lily2 won)
Lily2 chop 1X. M
Link: http://download.yousendit.com/ED4D5E3E53FA2459


Here got some of other spiders/insects i encountered during my FS hunt.

Small grasshopper, green spider



Spider Besi


Spider Hantu/Pisang. This one is a scary spider. Dun play play..



Spartan seems like getting old already..not so fierce. Put it to fight with Tiny2 this morning.. No worry..
Tiny2 is kecut type.. it will ran away when saw Spartan. Spartan is not a CHOP spider, it wont jump n kill Tiny2.

I put Tiny there just to see whether Spartan can put up fierce fighting stance only. Spartan saw Tiny but doesnt see it as a threat so didn't challenge it
to a fight.

Heres the pic, see the size difference.



Will let go Tiny2 later this evening.

Only keep Spartan, X, X2 and LILY2.

Cheers,
v_viper88

This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 28 2008, 04:19 PM

Dang!.. Jack and Small chop both are trying to kill its opponent not fighting!.
They just sprang to attack abit then ran away when its opponent fight back.
From the video, Jack lost the fight and ran away... does it injured?

Actually after reading ur posting earlier tat u want to try fight Jack with BigHead, i should have tell u not to let BigHead fight him*sigh.. instead I just says its better to fight CHOP with CHOP FS. Should have let u know direct..

I've never saw a chop tat aim bite other FS back abdomen until i saw ur video .. vs BigLeaf & 6Legs. and i got the feeling Jack most likely will attck BigHead using same tactic oso if u decided to let them fight.

The chop i saw bfr either bite head or its opponent arms in a direct face to face fight. It wil also show fighting stance bfr fight when facing its opponent but fight with more chops than arm pushing. The way Jack fight is too dangerous for other normal FS.

I saw Jack vs 6Legs pic u posted earlier and u wrote .

"Ok, the bad news...
When i came home yesterday nite, 6leg.... sad.gif
I actually could not believe my eyes when Jack treated 6leg like a fly!"

Tats why i tot u let them fight again.

Hope BigHead can recover well.


Cheers,
v_viper88



This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 28 2008, 11:39 PM