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post Jan 28 2008, 02:59 PM

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Yesterday met up with Mindstorm for spider fight in the evening tongue.gif .

He brought all his spiders.. got about 6 spiders. His Big Head and Big Gun is really big... much bigger than my Banglo spider. laugh.gif
Its been very long time since i saw and play with big fighting spiders. Mindstorm spiders really big and Keng!

I choose to fight with his smallest spider - Bro1, slightly smaller size than Banglo but Bro1 arms is longer abit.
Just some arm pushing and i think got 1 chop before Bro1 ran away.

2nd Match fight with LowLand spider. LowLand spider slightly bigger size.
Arm pushing only and Banglo spider ran off.
Try to fight again but still same short push and retreat.

Mindstorm got capture the fight using his webcam. Later he'll post it up here. icon_idea.gif

I didn't fight with Mindstorm other spider coz its size is much bigger.

Mindstorm gave me his spider - LowLand as a present rclxm9.gif He got alot spiders to take care.
Man.. i prefer to get Big Guns or Big Head instead tongue.gif

Yeah. Mindstorm, do post up all your long spider fighter match.. damn good fight.. I want to save it and keep as collection. icon_idea.gif

This morning i let Banglo fight with LowLand. Working afternoon shift 2day.. tongue.gif

1st round
Both arm pushing and 2-3 chops. The last chop sent LowLand ran away.
Wow.. didn't expect Banglo can win coz yesterday lost.

2nd round.
Again... strong pushing by both spiders. LowLand give good counter attck.
Each spider chop once and in the end Banglo retreat.

3rd round.
Arm pushing and again.. got 3chops. The last chop from LowLand made Banglo retreat.
LowLand is the winner.

No pics or video. Today fight between Banglo and LowLand is exciting. Both spider can continuous fight 3 rounds and not kecut.
Good fighters.


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post Jan 28 2008, 07:00 PM

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You can read the earlier pages, got some tips on how to keep the spider.

Where's your spider, if its the same type can PM Mindstorm for good spider fight.

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QUOTE(HuonHengChai @ Jan 28 2008, 04:02 PM)
Come fight with my spider tongue.gif

Perhaps it is more useful if you can share your experiance on keeping/breeding these spiders, that is a much interesting sharing to me IMO
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Added on January 28, 2008, 7:22 pmOkla.. yesterday evening fight abit disappointed coz Banglo didn't give a good fight for LowLand. Banglo only managed to defeat Bro1.

This morning fight is much more exciting but too bad, i didnt take any video. doh.gif
Maybe the spider is more active in the day time.

If i'm not bz working, i'll spend more time to find bigger spider to fight with Mindstorm.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(pitinn @ Jan 28 2008, 03:53 PM)
wahaha....U all fight d....Good match I think....Nowonder mindstorm say if some one can defeat biggun he willing to buy from the guy RM20......cooll
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Added on January 28, 2008, 9:14 pmSpiders: basic resource information
http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/educatio...piders/spiders/

Keeping spiders
http://www.spiderzrule.com/care.htm

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post Jan 30 2008, 01:55 PM

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Nope. This is the daun sirih which i used to catch the spider in skool.

http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirih

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Jan 29 2008, 02:18 PM)
First pic - caught him in this plants. Viper: Are these daun sirih leaves you were talking about?
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Added on January 30, 2008, 7:08 pmBro1 left arm is longer abit, see pic 1 & 2. At 1st before fight, i think Bro1 long arm will have more advantage over Banglo. Bro1 left arm seems longer than his right arm. Longer arm can

I think Bro1 lost because he had fought with few other strong spider earlier like Blurman etcs...

Ya, the taller spider will have advantage to bite or push its enemy during fight. Both spider will stand higher during fight to give itself a better fighting position. Some fierce spider can bite its enemy so hard till it ran away. I got saw before a fighting spider lost one of its teeth during fight. Got bitten off by its opponent sweat.gif


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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Jan 29 2008, 01:22 PM)
1. Banglo(top) vs Bro1(bottom)
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Comments: Banglo won with one chop. The chop was a fast one. Bro1 did not hold on when chop but straight away fled. Bro1 did not put up a fight with Banglo although I thot they quite similar size. From pics looks like bro1 bigger but that's because my video was angled with bro1 nearer.

Interestingly pushing is not only a test of strength but also to see who is taller? The spider on the left which stood a bit taller won the push in this old pic i have
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post Jan 31 2008, 04:31 PM

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Try to look for leaves tat overlapping each other. Normally the leaves are big like ur palm size. Sometimes those small long leaf like Lily, pandan oso got fighting spider. Try to open the leaf slowly and c whether got spider inside onot. If got, try to cut off its rear end bring it out to more wide area and put it into a case. Remember to cut and take the leaf slowly.. the spiders are quite wild, it will ran or jump off from the leaf very fast if u are not careful. tongue.gif Ya.. watch out for red ants, bees, snakes, lizards etcs.. dun go to those dangerous places leh.

Check out today fight.

Banglo vs Lowland.

Banglo is running here and there eventho saw LowLand already waiting to fight. Banglo doesnt seem want to fight aggressively more like wanna run away. tongue.gif Once close, both spiders exchange arm blows and start pushing.
The arm attack from both spider lasted quite awhile, Banglo able to push Lowland few step back and just with 1 chop defeated LowLand.

Heres the video.
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Link: http://download.yousendit.com/1ADDED7172146DF8

The 2nd round fight was a short 1, just arm pushing and Lowland retreat already. Don't want to post the video coz its not exciting ma. laugh.gif

Should wait and see Mindstorm spider fight video. He got one video where both the spider fight fiercely bitting each others so many times without retreat. Its a long fight. In the end, the spider which lost retreat but managed to injured its opponent leg also. shocking.gif
Wow... wat a fight.


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QUOTE(Lockheart @ Jan 30 2008, 08:22 PM)
How do i find nests....it seems quite interesting and i have a small forest behind my house so yea im interested
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post Feb 2 2008, 09:38 PM

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Here's tis morning fight.

Banglo vs LowLand

1st round. Start with arm pushing, Banglo at top push and chop LowLand backwards. LowLand gives a good counter attack and chop back at Banglo pushing it back to rear of leaf. Later LowLand gave another chop forcing Banglo to move downwards but suddenly Lowland also ran off. It seems like Lowland win but actually Banglo won coz Lowland retreat.

Link: http://download.yousendit.com/C492CF4B1AE2E0F0

2nd round. Just short arm pushing and LowLand ran away.
Link: http://download.yousendit.com/AE84B5896BBACE5F

Normally i let the spiders fight alternate day, only once a while let them fight the next day. Nowdays the spider also seems not hungry. Feed them abt 2-3 days once.

Yesterday went to Titiwangsa and KL Tower forest to catch spider. Dang it was raining!... din manage to find anything at Titiwangsa coz by the time reach there the rain starts ady. I decided to leave for KL Tower forest. At KL Tower forest, only managed to catch 3 average size female fighting spider, 1 adult male spider but its a different type so i let it go.flex.gif. The males spider nest is quite big, its hiding in is nest (looks like alien hiding inside a coccoon, i tot strike gold ady... but after peel off its nest, its a big male spider but not a fighting spider! mad.gif Dang....Then it start to rain at KL tower forest also. Walk all the way out from the forest, soaked till my skin. blink.gif

Waited till about 5.30pm, but it still drizzling, went back to KL Tower forest only for 30 mins coz tat place close at 6pm. No luck oso, coz its getting dark ady and the place is slippery. Heard alot of ppl say, normally all the snakes, scorpions, centipede loves to come out after rain to get dry. sweat.gif Abit scared oso coz i'm alone at the forest so fast fast go home and release the female spiders to my house garden again.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 2 2008, 01:41 AM)
Saw ur video. Nice. Quality not bad. U shld have recorded those triple chop fights earlier u had. Wld have like to see them. Banglo seems a bit gila. But looks like Banglo is on a winning streak against Lowland. Wah you fight them everyday? Shld let them rest a day or two, feed them a lot then fight again. Maybe u shld let lowland see female or fight with house garden spider for confidence trainning.

If i stay near u, i sure wld bring a new good fighter to fight Banglo...Blurman.
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post Feb 3 2008, 10:30 PM

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Today after work, exercise abit den off again go look for fighting spider. tongue.gif
Caught 4 females and 1 adult male. The adult male about same size like Banglo but slightly smaller than LowLand. Caught all the spiders from Lily leaves, so i name the new male fighting spider as Lily. laugh.gif Man.. i still cant find any big fierce fighting spider yet... rolleyes.gif

Banglo vs Lily
1st Round
Banglo push and chop Lily, Lily push abit back and chop Banglo. Banglo retreat.

2nd Round & 3rd Round
Just short push only and Banglo ran off.


LowLand vs Lily
1st Round
LowLand charge close to Lily. Lily still not realize LowLand is already in front, coz bz looking at my pda camera..wanted to jump r?
When Lily saw LowLand.. both start using arms to wack. After awhile, Lily ran off. Maybe not yet ready to fight?

2nd Round
This time Lily saw LowLand 1st and get ready to fight. LowLand caught by suprise but immediately gives good counter attk. Both spider just arm fighting only. In the end Lily retreat.


Heres the video
Attached File  3Feb08.zip ( 984.48k ) Number of downloads: 29


Video quality so so coz taken indoor summore its ady nite 7pm++.

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post Feb 4 2008, 09:44 AM

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Yeah, all the spiders i have not very big n fierce type. Sat quite free, tot can find some fierce big fighting spider at other place beside my house area. tongue.gif Too bad cant find any good ones.

The spiders i have doesnt seems want to eat those flies tat i've caught alive. Not sure whether they eat those dead flies later i throw in onot. Doesnt seem want to drink water oso. I just spray some water into the spider case. Its not tat i dont feed the spider well, just tat the spiders doesnt seem want to eat much sweat.gif

The earlier video i zipped using WIN RAR. Heres the one using WINZIP. icon_idea.gif
Attached File  3Feb08.zip ( 984.68k ) Number of downloads: 14
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Yea.. wheres ur other spider fierce long videos? i want to dl oso.. drool.gif .

Last time i normally trained the spider to chop by fighting it with other type of species spider smaller size. The fighting spider will kill off its opponent.
Fght with the small green grasshoppers oso. icon_idea.gif I also let it fight with 1-2 black ants just to make it gila-gila abit. Fighting spider tend to move franticly when see ants nearby.. dunno why.. either they excited or panic? One of my black fighting spider got bitten by the big ant with pincher on its arm and died. shocking.gif My friend oso told me bfr to feed fierce fighting spider with dead red ants coz red ants bite very stingy n painful. If the spider eat alot red ants juice, its own bite oso will be deadly and painful. tongue.gif Not sure whether true onot la..

The most exciting one is catch a big house flies(its eyes big type) and let the spider kill it off. Last time my fighting spider is big and fierce type, it will terkam at the big flies and kill it after some time coz the flies will struggle abit. tongue.gif The current spider i have, put small plant flies oso it duwan attck it only sometime when its hungry only it will kill the small flies.. haiz.. so much different from last time. cry.gif

The big n fierce type of spider will always eat and drink alot everyday. Its not scared of other bigger insects, and will kill it off oso even its own kind of fighting spider normally the smaller one will die n become its food.

Yeah, train it with female spider n let other spider to fight in its nest also boost the my spider confident to fight fiercely.

Nowdays less time to train spider, after work i oso flat ady...summore go jogging abit... den nite sleep ady. If i train the spider hard like those skool days.. might have chance to beat ur spiders.. kekkekee.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 4 2008, 02:12 AM)
Whaoho..viper! Looks like you're going into wilder areas to hunt for 1st king yeah? Good man! Hope you can find big strong challenger! Yeah..this couple of weeks raining alot... I also always wanted to go catch spider then start rainning. So nowadays I always look at sky, if i see rain clouds around, I might as well forget about it. Tuesday i was at Great Eastern... wait for my wife at 5.30 pm but was there at 4.30, you know la what i would do with that extra time...but unfortunately at 5.00pm the sky look like 7.30pm!! Then started pouring...At 5.45pm, outside look like 8.00pm!

Wah, seems like now you have A beat B, B beat C and C beat A situation. Banglo beat Lowland, Lowland beat Lily, Lily beat Banglo. Heheh.. also means all quite equal. Keep them and feed them well. Aiyah..3-4 days eat once very sad la. Why dont you feed one spider twice a day and another one 3 days one time. Then you can test your theory (feeding less makes the spider hungrier and a better fighter) wheather correct or not. I think feed too little will
weaken ur spider.

All the spiders you catch which u dont want u release in ur house garden ah? Overpopulation di...

Ur latest video(the zip file) cannot see la. My winzip cannot unzip it. What software you use to zip it?

PS. u go catch spiders, take some pics too..more interesting.
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Man.... u caught a lot of fighting spiders. Great catch. rclxms.gif
Same size like BIG Guns or Big Head? Wa.. now u got alot spiders ady.. not easy to take care if got alot spiders.
I got 3 spiders altogether. tongue.gif


Yesterday i oso caught 2 average size male spider from sugar cane leaves near my housing area.
Let them fight, one quite fierce.. like 2 chop its opponent.

The winner i let it fight with Lily spider. The new sugarcane spider eventho smaller, its quite fierce. It attck chop Lily from behind! able to give a short fight before retreat. In 2nd round it still dare to fight Lily face 2 face but still lose. Its quite true people say fighting spider from sugar cane leaves are fierce. Got also hear tat fighting spider from Kelapa Sawit area leaves big n fierce oso. rolleyes.gif

I really didn't expect a smaller size fighting spider can chop another bigger spider from behind. If its size is bigger, chances for it to win is high.


K.. gtg back to work.. laugh.gif

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post Feb 7 2008, 09:46 AM

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Yeap, the average size male spider caught from sugar cane leaves show angry face and fighting position when it saw its opponent.
Eventho it size is smaller, it terkam from behind. I was suprised and didnt expect it at all. Luki Liliy didnt injured much coz the chop was a light one and straight away fight back. Actually i just wanna train Lily to make it a better fighter. Even in 2nd round it still dare to fight Lily.
No video the fight coz i tot its a no fight match coz of the size..

Yeah, the early pic u compare Big Head with which spider. It size so much different leh.

Included are some of the type of leaves where i caught my fighting spiders.

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QUOTE(spinel-sun @ Feb 6 2008, 11:58 PM)
Sigh... 3 cannot fight. The one that can fight size i think is same as Lowland. Not really good fighter also. Win bro1 and topman due to size.

Sounds like you have a chop? Does it show angry face before fighting?

I have hardly caught any spider from sugarcane leaves in my life. Maybe most places i have access to does not have sugarcane. The one i have seen before got absolutely no fighting spiders...maybe those sugarcane too mature and tall.

Yeah... i also heard Kelapa Sawit area spiders are super big and fierce... I am planning to go check out this claim this month.
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post Feb 7 2008, 04:25 PM

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Yes, fighting spiders can be found from pandan leaves. U need to cut its rear leaf slowly and bring it to clear wide place then only open its nest. The spider will be wild abit, use ur hand move slowly and let the spider jump onto ur hand or plastic case.
Use a proper case which have small holes for air flow in out and remember to place a leaf inside.

Just make sure its a fighting spider not spider Hantu.. laugh.gif



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QUOTE(Lockheart @ Feb 7 2008, 10:41 AM)
I found quite a few spiders in the pandan foliage at the back of my house Could nto catch them though...they are quick and my brother started freaking out when one landed on his hand he cabutted into the house XD
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I've caught 2 average size male, and 2 female fighting spider in this type of red leaf plant.

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quote=Mangrovejumper,Feb 7 2008, 08:34 PM]
We found a lot of females with eggs in this kinda plant, but no males.
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Added on February 7, 2008, 11:24 pmNot fight with grasshopper.. but as food. The small grasshopper can be found in places which got alot lalang.
Yea... spider oso eat ants as part of its diet food. Last time when i play spider during my young days, its easier to catch ants than catching small flies. Just kill some small ants and throw inside my spider case. Lazy to catch flies so just feed with ants. tongue.gif Sometimes if got time will fed the spiders with small flies.

Yeah.. abt the house flies. I dun thinks theres any problem. Spiders living in the wild eat most of the small insects and have a good digestive stomach. It can even eat its on species of fighting spider if its hungry.
There one pic a jumping spider caught a house flies and eating it. Hm.. will try to search and post it here. If the spider is fierce.. it will chop and kill the flies and feaast on it. I 've also fed my spider with house flies once a while last time during my skool days. I fed my fighting spider with many variety of insects .. din c any problem oso except its getting fatter. The current spiders i have doesnt seem like to eat or drink much.. even small flies oso it willl eat only eat after 2-3 days.

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 5 2008, 03:57 AM)
Yeah later I will have a topic on fighting spider records... one of them will be the longest documented fight.

Wah, can fight with grasshopper? Never heard or try that before. I think the spider panic when see many ants cuz ants can kill them. Some fighting spider will eat red ants some don't. I think red ants give out a type of smell which repels the spiders.

Last time when young I always feed house fly to my spiders but nowadays I dont becuz i think feeding them house fly may cause them to die faster because most house fly are quite dirty carrying alot of harmful bacteria or parasites because most will come from the dirty dump.
Last year I caught a lot of spiders and fed them houseflies but all of them died within 1-2 months. I thot was old age but now you told me u kept a spider for 10 months means it cant be. Must be contamination from houseflies. I also read from a singapore forum that this guy also advice against feeding housefly because once he fed his spider housefly and next day it died!

Btw...still cannot unzip ur file la...
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2 bad Blurman escaped ady, didnt have chance to fight with my spiders oso. Good tat u able to find back Big Guns. Ya.. fighting spider alwys look for empty space to crawl out.. once it escape, it will run wild or hide/pretend dead.
Wa.. u goin to sell off most of your spiders. Only keep Big Heads? Too many spiders not easy to look after, have to make sure theres enuf food and drink supply, have to clean case and change dried leaf oso. If 1 or 2 fighting spiders okla. Hmm... i'm interested with big n fierce fighting spiders. Big Guns, Big leaf looks tempting drool.gif

During CNY, i show my cousin who never saw or play fighting spider bfr. Its a great fight displayed by Lowland, Banglo and Lily.
The winner is Banglo defeated Lowland 3-0. LowLand eventho lost, it didnt chicken out and can continue to fight fiercely with Lily. Can see some strong arm pushing and more than 3 chops by both spiders. Both the spider fight fiercely and in the end LowLand won. My cousin oso thought Lily was injured coz all the fights are fierce. Lucky no broken arms or teeth both the spiders. tongue.gif
Since my cousin is interested, i gave him a young male spider which have just change skin. He and his family will come KL visit me on Sunday and i plan to catch few more fighting spiders for him.
They will stay in KL my house for few days.

Back to KL yesterday evening. After rest, in around 6pm went out and look for more fighting spiders. Caught 2 adult male average size spiders from Nipah and Pandan leaves. Both spiders only have 1 right arm + 6 rear legs. It left arm maybe lost during fight? or ants attck. Caught a few females spider oso. Put each female spiders for all my current male spiders.
Later at nite, i let the 1 right arm spider fight. I didnt expect good fight but was surprise both spiders can fight quite well oso. since both spider only have right arms, when facing each other fighting, their arms cant hit each other arms and like hitting airs only. tongue.gif Got about 2 chops and one of the spiders retreat.

This morning went for jogging and later start hunt for more fighting spiders. Seems like i'm on spider craze ady.. lol.. rolleyes.gif
This time able to find 1 big adult rclxm9.gif + 4 average size adult male spiders (some quite young/small male). The big one is the biggest spider i've caught so far. I released the 2 male spiders which i've caught yesterday. In the afternoon, my neighbour just came back from his hometown and he gave me another average size male spider. icon_idea.gif

He told me tat spider was walking around his car when he wanted to come back KL this morning. He caught it n keep it for me coz he know i'm looking for fighting spiders. He oso got play fighting spiders during his skool days and told me some his funny experience when trying to catch spider last time. He said when the spiders he try to catch run or hide in the kelapa sawit trees, he and his friend will pee at tat area and the spiders will come out from its hiding place coz cant stand the smell and salty pee watar.. laugh.gif It will be easier to catch them during tat time.

Later in the evening, after jogging awhile i went to look for more spiders at Pandan leaves area. This time i've manage to catch 1 male and 1 female spiders. Both spiders are average size. Size about like Banglo or Lily. The male 1 i named it as ROMEO. So total male spiders i got today is 7. rclxms.gif

Keep all in sepated case properly and later when my cousin arrive in KL, i'll let the spiders fight for him 2 see.
Most likely i'll release the average young male fighter and only keep a good ones. Some will let my cousin to choose which one he wants to keep.
Dont want to keep so much spiders coz dun have much time to look after.

Here are the pics of my spider in its casing + the biggest male spider i caught today. Its like my thumb nail size. I feel its still smaller den ur BIG HEAD.
Decided to name it as ARCHILLIES. laugh.gif Havent let it fight yet. Hope its a great fighter.

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Lotsa fighting spider fights today! rclxms.gif
This morning after spray some water into the spider case, i let the spiders out to fight.

Let all the average size male spiders fight 1st. Not so interesting coz some cant fight, and some just fight short while without chop and ran off.

Next comes the interesting fight.

Romeo vs Lily - Romeo won.
Romeo vs Banglo - Banglo won
Banglo vs Lowland - LowLand won
LowLand vs Archilies - Archilies won.
Archilies vs Banglo/Romeo/LowLand/Lily - Archilies won all the matches without much strong fight from its opponent.

Most of the fights is kinda short fight only. Achilies also didn't really show very fierce fighting stance. It just gave kinda selamba look only and Lily/Banglo/Romeo retreat after short arms pushing.
Only LowLand gave abit fight but oso very short push. Maybe Archillies size is much bigger or maybe the spiders abit wet after i sprayed some water so not in good mood to fight?
LowLand becomes abit kecut ady after lost to Archillies, it ran off when i try to let it fight Banglo. blush.gif

In the evening, i let the spider fight again. tongue.gif
This time the spiders fight more intense.
Suprisingly Lily performed very well in the evening. It beat Romeo easily. It even chop Romeo lightly when Romeo is nearby not aware abt Lily presence.

Lily vs Banglo - Lily won!
1st round - arm pushing quite long and Banglo chop 1 time and Lily ran.
2nd round - arm pushing, Banglo chop 1 time and Lily counter with continuous 3 chops! Banglo ran off. Banglo seems injured abit. sweat.gif
3rd round - Banglo gave up n ran

Lily vs LowLand - Lily get a walkaway coz LowLand still in Kecut mode.

Lily vs Archilies - Archilies won. Still short push only and Lily backoff.

Later at night around 10.30pm. I just wanna check whether Banglo is ok onot and oso want to test fight LowLand with other smaller spider to boost its confident.
My cousin was around so after check the spiders all are fine, we start again the spider fight.

Banglo vs LowLand - Banglo won. LowLand have some confident back and willing to fight awhile before retreat. Earlier LowLand defeated other smaller spider bfr fight with Banglo.
Banglo vs Lily - Banglo won!!. Both fight fiercely and can see few chops from both spider. This time Banglo wants revenge and gave strong counter atttk. Its quite a long fight but in the end Lily lost.
Banglo vs Archillies- Archilies won. Still easy win for Archillies but this time can see each spider chop once. Banglo back off. Maybe its tired ady or maybe Archillies is too big n strong. sweat.gif

Lotsa good fight today.. too bad i didnt video it coz i want to see the fight direct without bz trying to record the fight properly.
Need to find challenger for Archillies ady, Mindstorm wanna fight ur spiders win me again? brows.gif

Fighting spiders are really amazing tiny pets. The way they fight is really superb and interesting. thumbup.gif

I have already let go 3 smaller male spiders which cant fight well in the morning.
Will let go 3 more average size male spiders tomolo. Plan only to keep some tat r really good fighters.

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QUOTE(Mangrovejumper @ Feb 11 2008, 09:12 AM)
I had an Archilles a long time ago too...he was a normal spider that turned into a chop. 
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:31 AM

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Yup.. Archilles is a fierce fighter and doesnt retreat easily. From the start fight with BigGuns, it push BigGuns all the way down and gives a strong chop n lock BigGuns. Archilles den carry BigGun and keep pushing it backwards and suddenly BigGuns able to breakfree n immediately ran away.
No 2nd round fight coz based from the 1st round fight.. BigGuns cant give a strong defend or counter attck n Mindstorm doesnt want to BigGun to get injured.

After defeated BigGuns, Archillies get some rest for short while. smile.gif
We fight other middle weight size spiders.

Hmm.. Mindstorm the match between NoName and LowLand... rolleyes.gif
After see the video few times, i feel LowLand won. NoName give a strong chop at the beginning but LowLand manage to defend and lock NoName , it push 90degree before NoName breakfree and ran. LowLand gave a chase. Its abit confusing coz both spide turn very fast and get mixed up. I think we get the spider switch ady.. lol. U try c the video again.. Maybe i c wrongly.. Both spiders looks about the same. hmm.gif Maybe i'm wrong..u try n chk the video.

The Best fight is of coz Archilles vs BigHead. rclxms.gif
Archilles is light pale green, its easier to differentiate from BigHead. icon_idea.gif

Both spider fight fiercely and its their natural fighting instinct to fight defeat its opponent.
Its a fair fight coz direct face to face fight and no chop from behind, both spiders are about the same size. Archilles is only slight smaller abit and kinda thinner than BigHead.

Both spider analysed each arms width and potential to win the fight for quite long.

Archilles gave a strong arm push at the beginning and chop BigHead 1st, force BigHeadto flip/swap position and Archilles gave another chop again! Flip/Swap position again!

BigHead counter with strong arm bitting and almost made Archillies flip to breakfree. shocking.gif

Archilles manage to hold on balance well, Bighead gave some chop pushing Archilles up abit but Archilles counter with lock, 2 chops , start pushing BigHead 2 steps downward and gave another strong chop forcing BigHead to flip/swap position again.

Achilles then gave another powerful chop! forcing BigHead to move upwards.
Archilles again chop BigHead making it move futher up some more! BigHead then managed to lock both Archilles arms!!

BigHead start to stand up abit higher can c its back body moving up also and gave a strong POWERFUL !! chop at Archilles and push Archilles downwards. The chop n push was so powerful shocking.gif making Archilles lost balance before retreat from the fight by turn upside down to break free from BigHead tight arms lock. sweat.gif

BigHead won the fight but was injured. It dragged one of its arm, rubbing on the leaf and was moving abit blur in circle after the fight.
Archilles was still active and seems not injured. Its still can fight after move back up to leaf surfaced but i block it and carry with my finger.

From the fight, its obviously tat Achilles gave out alot of powerful chops attack, more chops than BigHead. Archilles also attack fiercely, forcing BigHead to flip/swap position 3 times, it oso push and carry Bighead downwards and then upwards. Its the tight lock, strong powerful body chop and push by BigHead at the end that make Archilles retreat coz fight in a dangerous position.

No 2nd round fight coz BigHead already injured and Mindstorm not willing to risk BigHead safety if continue to fight.
Cant guarantee what may happen if fight again.. maybe Archilles might won. hmm.gif

Great fight! Thanks for the video Mindstorm. thumbup.gif
Its been really long time i didn't see such good strong fighting spider fighting with no fear and very skillful in locking, flip/swap position pushing and strong chop attack!!!!.

Hope ur BigHead is recovering well. He's a good fighter! thumbup.gif

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BigHead being attacked fiercely repeatedly by Archilles making it to do the drastic counter attack..
From the video, its seems BigHead managed to locked Archilles arms after unable to stop/hold from being push up strongly, BigHead then manage to stand higher and do a full chop n push or izit a HEAD BUTT attack ? rclxub.gif

Archilles after being knock hard on its face/head ... seems lost balance.
BigHead unexpected strong counter attack makes Archilles panic n flip to break free from BigHead's tight lock.

Hmm.. u think large spiders tend to fight a bit slower and not as fast as average sized spiders?

I feel actually large spiders fight more skillfully using superb fighting techniques. I've saw some really fierce ones bfr and Big size spider is more POWERFUL and have more advantages.!!!

They don't just jump into fight directly... they will analyst its opponent arm width, size to determine enemy's strenght bfr start the fight.

When the fight starts, it will push strongly, lock its opponent arms and chop fiercely without give its opponent to push or lock back.
Once its opponent get lock by its arms, it will start chop kaw kaw and try to lift/flip them. Spider which manage to lock it opponent arms also have advantage to carry and swap fighting position

Strong Large spiders can counter its enemy chop many times by locking/ flip swap position and can return more chops back! More the 10 -20 chops !! and those
really fierce have very tight lock n strong bites at its opponent many times till broken arm n some till death if not able to break free.

They wont retreat easily and have more fighting strength compare to average size male spiders.

The young or average male fighting spiders normally have short fast fight only, about 1-4 chops and 1-2 arm locks.
They cant last long if the fight drag long coz they dont have the strength,skill and fighting spirit confidence. Their fight is less exciting compare to the fiercely and strong and bigger adult male spider.

Its not about the fighting speed slower compare to average size spider but its more about fighting skill experience/techniques for the larger strong adult spiders.

Archilles and BigHead fight is a very good example of strong fighting spider with good skills and fighting techniques. Nowdays its hard to get spiders which can fight like this!!

Mindstorm interest and effort to catch big strong fighting spider and post his experience here really something tat i admire , tats why i try my best to search good challenger for him.

Yeah, i've caught another big adult male spider today, its slightly smaller than Archilles but bigger den other normal size males spiders which i have. Caught at the same place where i found Archilles last time but from daun Pandan. Named it as Spartan coz i watched 300 movie before went out to search for spiders this evening. laugh.gif
Spartan defeated Lily, Banglo and LowLand/NoName easily. Didnt let it fight with Archillies yet. tongue.gif

The female spider which put 2gther with Achilles have eggs ady in its nest. Dont know how to breed spiderlings. Mindstorm, u interested with eggs?

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 14 2008, 02:48 AM)
I can't help but to think Bighead had ladyluck just in the final seconds when he managed to flip Archilles. Being flipped caused Archilles to be in a helpless and out of control position. Otherwise the fight would have carried on and Archilles may win. Viper is right to say that Archilles flipped because it was trying to get out of the lock position. This means Bighead didnt really intentionally do anything to flip Archilles.
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If I would to bet on the second round, i would bet on Archilles. Bighead was maxed out.
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Yeah, if there is a difference in size, it would be Bighead being minutely bigger than Archilles.

From here, we can also see that larger spiders tend to fight a bit slower and not as fast as average sized spiders.
I also noticed in the beginning, Archilles arms was waving faster than Bighead's.
Bighead is back to normal. For the record, it is the 9th of Jan when i started this tread to find Bighead a challenger...now 1 month and 3 days later on the 12th of Feb, the goal is met. And this could very well be the fight of the year, not just the day. Kudos to you, Viper.
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Nice video, its a good fight where both spiders didnt give up easily.
Lotsa arm locking and bitting as well. Wheres the longest spider fight u shown me last time?
The winner leg injured after the fight? That is oso a very fierce powerful good fight! thumbup.gif

For me, i see ScareyCat and Pippy have about the same fighting skill if compared to Archilles VS BigHead. Good locking, bitting n defensive skills.
Actually i feel Archillies and BigHead match is much more exciting and both spiders have more fighting experience skill.
Archilles attack pushing and chopping speed is faster and strenght is much stronger coz can push BigHead all the way down and den push further up while launch fierce chops.
BigHead is good in defend with strong locking techniques and good counter chop attack!!.

If the spiders are good in locking, they cant fight using their arms as fast compare when not being lock earlier. Experience spider will lock its oppoenent arms to stop from being push backwards.
The spiders which have been locked, only have 3 choices :
-Chop bite fiercely to break free.
-Do a strong push/jump using its hind legs forward.
-Try to flip/swap position to get out from the lock

Maybe there are other choices oso, like sacrifice/break off its own arm and retreat or etcs..

Those spiders who been injured or weaken in a fight, if continue to fight might not able to breakfree from its opponent arms lock and
might end up injured badly injured from chops or worst case is death.


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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 15 2008, 01:34 AM)
Ok, for the record, here's the previous record time fighting match on 25/11/07 between Scareycat(caught by mangrovejumper) and Pippy(caught by me)... an exciting 17 second fast fighting action match which ended in a topdown lock position. They were only average size spiders. Compared to Archilles vs Bighead, we can see the smaller spiders fight much faster with incredible chopping speed and rapid biting. One similarity, both winners are injured while the one that lost is ok!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWi7EUOTQA

Also a 6s fight between pippy and midbogel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQnJ0Ks7FhM

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Wa.. u house alot pandan leaves but cant find any fighting spiders? Normally there are alot fighting spider at daun Pandan coz the leaves smell nice and can trap/hold alot rain water with its middle leaves curve. I can even find pandan leaves planted outside my neighbours house... small and average adult size. I found Archilles from area which have daun Nipah and Pandan area. Its a small garden man made in front of Semi-D house.. lotsa other plants there oso.. got lily, Aloe Vera, Orchid, Daun setawar, Bamboo etcs.

I've let go 3 of my spiders today, Banglo, Lily and Noname/LowLand to pandan leaves area.
Before let go, i let them have a final fight.

Lily vs Noname/LowLand - Lily won
Lily vs Banglo - Lily won
Spartan vs Lily/Banglo/NoName/LowLand - Spartan won

Abit heavy hearted but i feel that its better for them coz i don't have much time to take care of too many spiders and their size/fighting skill is average only. Now only have Archilles and Spartan + 2 females spiders.


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QUOTE(pitinn @ Feb 15 2008, 02:20 PM)
aiyo...cant find any fighting sipder near my house although alot of pandan leaves....
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Actually its easy to feed the spiders, just throw in a few dead/half dead fat juicy ants and some water drops into the spider case. It will eat and drink by itself when its hungry. Clean its case about 3 days once if dirty. I prefer to keep only few stronger/ good fighting spiders so can take care them better.

6 legs have disadvantage when fighting coz one of its arm is missing. If kena grap by opponent same size/bigger, it will get flip/lose balance easily.
The female chop u have seems good. Chop fiercely. Even chop till 6Legs injured. Spiders tat been chop by surprise normally will panic and ran away.

I feel chop spider is actually based on its living environment. If theres alot predators like ants, other species spiders.. they normally will chop to defend themselves or hunt bigger insects as food supply. This type of spider are more fierce and stronger oso.

I noticed some of my spider Lily, Banglo and LowLand at the begining when captured doesn't chop much.. just arm pushing.
Eat & drink less oso.. After few weeks keep them, i can see some changes in their fighting skill... especially Lily.. it start to chop more during fights but inconsistent.

Archilles oso during fight with BigHead, can see strong push with fierce chops many times.

A true chops fighting spiders are the one tat chop to kill its enemy!! It doesn't care to fight face to face or whether its opponent size is
bigger oso. If it opponent is strong and didnt retreat after the chop or kena arm lock, then only it will fight as normal but during fight it will still launch alot fierce chop bitting try to kill its enemy.

A chop fighting spider definitely an excellent fighter and can dominate the fight.

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 16 2008, 01:37 AM)
Heh..i myself got 2 batch of eggs here. One from quietman and one from bighead(mating in the air). Better you keep the eggs until hatch then let the slings go in your garden. Right now I don't think can cope with so many spiders but I am now designing a system to keep the young. Keeping a few spiders is easy. Keeping a lot of them is tough. To be able to develop a gene line of an animal one need to breed and keep a lot of the animal so that you can have choice to select the type of trait you want.

I have always been interested in automated systems, systems which save working time and energy and I am constantly thinking how to build systems. I used to breed fishes during my teens and at one time I had a few hundred adult bettas in my room!! When I graduated from Singapore, I went to work for a fish farm in Singapore which bred guppies and Discus for overseas export. It was a great experience to see how people can rear hundreds of thousands of fishes with only a few staffs. I help them improved their packing time and help develop a system to rear a type of live feed for their fishes and sale in local market. And that is precisely what i have always been intrigued in.. rearing critters in large quantities! Hence rite now I'm thinking and trying methods for fighting spiders, just for the challenge.

Right now feeding fighting spiders is mighty inefficient. To feed about 500 guppies in a cement tank takes an average 5 seconds...that is to scoop some dry fish meal and toss it over the water surface and to walk from one tank to another. To feed a single spider, would probably take 5-10minutes if you're fast which include having to catch the live insect and to place it into its container. 5 minutes = 300seconds. Divide by 5 seconds(feeding guppy time)=60 and times it by 500 means feeding a fighting spider is 30,000 times slower than a farmer hand feeding guppies!!! So you see, the difference in the economics just on feeding these 2 creatures is astoundingly vast. That's why you let go most of your spiders!

I have seen on TV, people rearing black widow by the hundreds. They are kept individually had to feed them individually not unlike a betta farmer would feed its adult males. Like the betta farmer, they were extremely fast because those black widows were reared in paper cups(one over another, different size i think so that one can close over the other) and they were fed a type of grub. So I watched the farmer just lift a paper cup, pour in a grup or two from a cup he was holding and then just close back the paper cup and moved on to the next cup.

Anyway that was just food for thought.


Added on February 16, 2008, 1:50 am

That was the longest fight lah, 17s. Now overtaken by ArchillesvsBighead already mah, 22 seconds.
Wah, you really analyze the fights more geng than me or Mangrovejumper, man. Yeah, that's why i love fighting spiders so much, their fights is very short(compared to other animals) but very exciting, with lots of variety.
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Yeah.. few hundreds requires more time to feed if do manually.

I think if got alot spiders, each spider will be in separated case. Put some water using leaves tat can store/trap/hold water inside the case. Use the fish food automatic timer device set drop food every 24hours once for each of the spider case. Food can be from dead mosquitoes, flies, ants etcs.. icon_idea.gif

Nice videos. Both spiders can fight well and last quite long. Yeah.. i remember last time u got show me another video ur fren holding a big spider. Tat spider is quite big oso.

Archilles is getting bigger, its appetite is good, everyday oso eat n drink alot.
I've compare Archilles with Spartan. Spartan size is smaller. i think maybe like ur BigGuns size.

Dont want to let them fight .. prefer Spartan to fight with ur BigGuns next time.

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QUOTE(mindstorm @ Feb 16 2008, 11:33 AM)
True, as i said, feeding them is easy if only 2 or 3 spiders. But can you feed a hundred spiders? In 5 seconds? You can feed a tank full of fish(like your brother fishes) in 5 seconds.

Anyway here's kelapasawit, a male i caught from a kelapasawit plantation. 3 clips in one, with the last match lasting 14 seconds! Bro1 is mighty experienced. (i wrongly mentioned kelapasawit as redleaf in the last clip, should be kelapasawit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlAXqI5ky1Y
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Added on February 16, 2008, 12:28 pmYeah.. nice fight. You should see the fight between Achilles vs BigHeads..more KENG Chow. rclxms.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uPncA-m4Tk&feature=related

These spiders can feed on small insects like mosquitoes, flies, ants etcs.. they like juicy stuff.. laugh.gif

I catch these spiders coz wanna fight with Mindstorm big spiders. tongue.gif
Fighting spider is also one of my favourite hobby and i like to keep it as pet and also to let them fight once a while.

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QUOTE(White Palace @ Feb 16 2008, 11:53 AM)
Wow, this Kelapasawit is real keng wo!  thumbup.gif

Never know there are fighting spiders...

This spider feeds what? You guys catch it for petting it or just want to see them fight?

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This evening managed to caught 4 male spiders. 2 average adult size male spider, 2 young male spiders.
1 of the adult spider average size caught from Pandn leaves, others i dunno wats the leaves name.. tongue.gif


Here are some of the pics of the type of leaves where i caught my spiders.

I caught Archilles from these leaves.
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Overlapping leaves with spider nest
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Pandan leaves
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Dunno wat type of leave is this.. got fighting spiders oso,
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Cant remember which spider is this.. maybe its Archilles?
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Archilles drinking fruit juice.
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At night let the 2 average adult size male spider fight.
Just short pushing only. The winner Pandan Spider.

Pandan fight with Spartan.
Pandan spider is only abit smaller than Spartan. This fight is very fierce as both spiders fight with strong chops, tight lock each others, flip/swap position, overturn and roll all over.!!!
Pandan was defeated and was injured quite bad.. it leaped off from the fighting ring to escape but when hanging in the air with its web on.. Pandan seems fainted!!!
It was hanging on the air via its web for quite some time.. tot dead ady... try to touch its abit.. Pandan start to climb up its web but half way.. it stop and not moving again hanging in the air.

Use my hand to carry up Pandan. Pandan movement is quite weak after the fight. Seems got bitten badly by Spartan. No broken legs or arms.. but seems very weak after the fight.
I fed it with fruit juice and short while later Pandan movement back to normal. Keep in back in its case but then i saw something happened!!
Pandan use its arm to push its teeth/tentacle till fall off!!!

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Check out the video. Quality abit blur.. coz using pda CMOS camera. cry.gif Cant really see clearly when the spider overturn and roll all over during the fight.
The first video is the fierce fight between Spartan and Pandan.
http://download.yousendit.com/22792CE817270682

2nd video shows Pandan fainted while hanging in the air via web. No energy to climb up its web after the fight. sweat.gif
http://download.yousendit.com/E984B2387D7146A7

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Here's Spartan pics. Its size is slightly bigger than my index finger nail.
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Man.... Spartan is damn fierce.. Previously when i fight it with Lily, Banglo, NoName/LowLand.. just short push and 1-2 chops only and they just retreat from continue fighting. Tonight fight is so fierce as both spider didnt retreat, lock each other tightly and launch fierce CHOPs!!

Mindstorm.. this is wat i've told u before.. fight till teeth/tentacle oso break.
Very fierce fight.

Spartan is a dangerous fierce fighter.!! shocking.gif


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