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Version 9 is up! Let's hope our KLCI up up all the way, too
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 07:15 AM) Version 9 is up! Let's hope our KLCI up up all the way, too we see another plantation run today? time for O&G to start... DJIA closed at 12,827.49 Up 27.31 (0.21%)  |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 07:15 AM) Version 9 is up! Let's hope our KLCI up up all the way, too V9 liaw ah. DJIA closed at 12,827.49 Up 27.31 (0.21%) So fast. KLCI needs a serious correction, its too high liaw despite regional market is downtrend. For the past one week, its local fund that is pour into KLCI. Imagine when GE rally is over, what will happen... |
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Jan 8 2008, 08:48 AM) V9 liaw ah. all the small fish die lor... So fast. KLCI needs a serious correction, its too high liaw despite regional market is downtrend. For the past one week, its local fund that is pour into KLCI. Imagine when GE rally is over, what will happen...  |
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walau straight to 1480 after open
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i think small bull will cont till CNY......but...remember nt to be too greedy oh...hehehee
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Jan 8 2008, 09:26 AM
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it's amazing how good they are at finding counters to goreng...now it's maybank!
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ZOMG Gamuda 5.70!!
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wow....keep it up sapcres n UEMBLDR! Pls goreng more....wanna buy dividen counters liao
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Jan 8 2008, 09:41 AM
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Just found out that AXREIT is giving out dividend.
Final income distribution of 7.49 Sen Taxable and 0.04 Sen T.E Interim income distribution of 0.75 sen from 1 January 2008 to 18 January 2008 |
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Jan 8 2008, 09:58 AM
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KLCI +14!!
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Jan 8 2008, 10:16 AM
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Hahaha GE rally in full swing.
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Jan 8 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 8 2008, 10:16 AM) Hahaha GE rally in full swing. Anybody grap any gaining on plantation stocks high surge recentlysuch as KLK, IOICorp,KULIM? |
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Jan 8 2008, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(TopGunn @ Jan 8 2008, 10:25 AM) Anybody grap any gaining on plantation stocks high surge recentlysuch as KLK, IOICorp,KULIM? this is the 3rd day of plantation rallycrude oil price is coming down, maybe we can wait for the next round, instead?  |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:47 AM) this is the 3rd day of plantation rally cpo futures price also coming down..so, the plantation counters might also decline.. crude oil price is coming down, maybe we can wait for the next round, instead?  |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:37 AM
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good, save as much as possible right now, let's not miss the boat again
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Jan 8 2008, 11:40 AM
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uembldr now 1.31! wow.....keep it up! GE is near
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Jan 8 2008, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:37 AM) good, save as much as possible right now, let's not miss the boat again theres still hapseng which hasnt really boomed up, even though it has a greater market capitalization compared to KLUANG, Sarawak Plantation, SBagan and so on..just my two cents though, lots of small caps out there that will have a spill over effect anyway if the plantation stocks continue to rise.  |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 11:40 AM) uembldr now 1.31! wow.....keep it up! GE is near UEM counters (UEMBLDR/UEMWRLD) are belongs to UMNO counter, i just wan my modal back QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 8 2008, 11:43 AM) theres still hapseng which hasnt really boomed up, even though it has a greater market capitalization compared to KLUANG, Sarawak Plantation, SBagan and so on.. HAPSENG gave a relatively attractive dividends last month just my two cents though, lots of small caps out there that will have a spill over effect anyway if the plantation stocks continue to rise.  |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:52 AM) UEM counters (UEMBLDR/UEMWRLD) are belongs to UMNO counter, i just wan my modal back pana, whats your target price for UEMBLDR?  This post has been edited by warbamboo: Jan 8 2008, 11:55 AM |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:56 AM
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equine also strong gov-link counter. Belum move yet. Dunno to bet on it or not
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Jan 8 2008, 11:57 AM
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come on.... uembldr UPUPUPUPUPUPU more
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QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 8 2008, 11:54 AM) pana, whats your target price for UEMBLDR? i bought at 1.6  will throw when the GE fever is almost over doesn't mind if losing a bit gonna use the money for O&G and plantation counters, probably bank counters too |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:58 AM
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[quote=warbamboo,Jan 8 2008, 11:54 AM]
[quote=panasonic88,Jan 8 2008, 11:52 AM] UEM counters (UEMBLDR/UEMWRLD) are belongs to UMNO counter, i just wan my modal back pana, whats your target price for UEMBLDR? [/quote] ya ya...i also wan to know....wanna sell soon lo.....dowan to b too greedy.... hehehehemy TP around 1.36 only |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:57 AM) i bought at 1.6 very high price you brought your uembldr.... will throw when the GE fever is almost over doesn't mind if losing a bit gonna use the money for O&G and plantation counters, probably bank counters too |
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM) very high price you brought your uembldr.... yalo...kena con by viper last time...hehehehe |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 11:56 AM) equine also strong gov-link counter. Belum move yet. Dunno to bet on it or not yah i am eyeing on EQUINE, tooanother typical fast up fast down GE counter it has moved a bit actually, warming up so sharesa, wanna jump for EQUINE?   safe price to enter is 1.9x - 2.0x |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM
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i set uembldr tp at >1.5
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Jan 8 2008, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM) very high price you brought your uembldr.... QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM) yalo...kena con by viper last time...hehehehe yaya, buy 1000 shares only |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:04 PM
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will the CI continue up trend till cny and ge.....
i also wanna get some equine but...... so many day ci keep up.... sure will have correction..... at mean time... i wait for the correction... |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:05 PM
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wow so many are interested in EQUINE now
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Jan 8 2008, 12:06 PM
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wah most of our forummers are back today... i wonder where you guys went in the past few days... Shopping at Bursa ah??
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Jan 8 2008, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM) yah i am eyeing on EQUINE, too wanna buy, so now set into my favourite list, but monitoring the movements first before jump in. another typical fast up fast down GE counter it has moved a bit actually, warming up so sharesa, wanna jump for EQUINE? safe price to enter is 1.9x - 2.0x  Added on January 8, 2008, 12:10 pmI suspect investors are shifting their focus from plantation to something else. I see like they are buying other counters before lunch to prepare the rally again this afternoon. This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 8 2008, 12:10 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:12 PM
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remiser advice buy CI component share....
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Jan 8 2008, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 8 2008, 12:12 PM) remiser advice buy CI component share.... one of them is Sapcres any recomendation??? i prefer below rm2 |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:15 PM
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KUB, KHSB are another UMNO linked counters
@sharesa i had the similar instinct as you too! |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:15 PM) KUB, KHSB are another UMNO linked counters welcome back sapcres kakis! hehehe@sharesa i had the similar instinct as you too! |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:07 PM) wanna buy, so now set into my favourite list, but monitoring the movements first before jump in. maybe going to contruction sector.... some are flying high like uembuilderAdded on January 8, 2008, 12:10 pmI suspect investors are shifting their focus from plantation to something else. I see like they are buying other counters before lunch to prepare the rally again this afternoon. yesterday still in lose.... walau today making money cover other loses.... |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM
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In for v9.
Same view as some others - waiting for a correction before going in. |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:15 PM) KUB, KHSB are another UMNO linked counters ha-ha, shares are in our blood! @sharesa i had the similar instinct as you too! |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM
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anyone have klcc property???
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Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM) ha-ha, shares are in our blood! hahah addicted ya.. |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:24 PM
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for property stock, i myself is looking at MAGNA
the graph, very nice one straight line up they have a lot of upcoming projects in hand too |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:24 PM) for property stock, i myself is looking at MAGNA i like mahsing leh....underrated stock.....but no ppl goreng one...the graph, very nice one straight line up they have a lot of upcoming projects in hand too |
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insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division
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Jan 8 2008, 12:31 PM
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how about scomi?
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Jan 8 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:27 PM) i like mahsing leh....underrated stock.....but no ppl goreng one... property stocks will come its turn |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:27 PM) i like mahsing leh....underrated stock.....but no ppl goreng one... yah MAHSING is underrated, investment house gives a "Buy" signal for it(and that was the time where MAHSING was hovering between 1.7x - 1.8x) QUOTE(NaMyzarC @ Jan 8 2008, 12:28 PM) insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division ahh you posted this for the second time alreadythanks for the tips  |
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Is it too late to jump into UEMBLDR boat now ??
Last time got someone mention KUB also as GE counter but now already 0.92 Looking at KLCI keep making new high the past few days make me scared to jump in... afraid if it drop down to 1400++ level Since I just start investing last year... so KLCI keep green during these period of time is consider normal? because of pre-CNY rally + GE rally(only for this yr)? |
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QUOTE(NaMyzarC @ Jan 8 2008, 12:28 PM) insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division hmmm....only the price is high @ 15.10! Around when is the intended listing? |
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 8 2008, 12:31 PM) how about scomi? SCOMI used to be a superstar shares, i had that last time, but sold edyohyah, SCOMI is also GE-linked counters |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Jan 8 2008, 12:33 PM) Is it too late to jump into UEMBLDR boat now ?? by calculation.... got 20 days before cny... assume 1 day can up 4pointsLast time got someone mention KUB also as GE counter but now already 0.92 Looking at KLCI keep making new high the past few days make me scared to jump in... afraid if it drop down to 1400++ level Since I just start investing last year... so KLCI keep green during these period of time is consider normal? because of pre-CNY rally + GE rally(only for this yr)? then equal to 80points klci will up to 1550 before cny..... woh woh woh... "mr choy sun yeh" is coming... get ready welcome "mr. choy sun yeh" ... let jump to the "fiber boat"... light weight and strong.... hehehe dont want sampan..... potential water leaking.. heheh Added on January 8, 2008, 12:50 pmi thinking jump to airasia..... since the price is low recently any idea??? remiser advice is no... due to the bad news from airasia and shareholder dumping shares... i plan it for mid term.... keep it for 2-3months... This post has been edited by jojoe: Jan 8 2008, 12:50 PM |
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play safe, go for those counters which not yet go up a lot
kinwawa bought her (or his?) UEMBLDR at 1.1x last week (or last two week), judging from today's price, you decide whether it is still safe to enter |
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Jan 8 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(NaMyzarC @ Jan 8 2008, 12:28 PM) insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division Thanks for the tip. |
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Jan 8 2008, 01:41 PM
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Anyone follows FCW?
This counter is just out from PN17 and the prices up like crazy. Anyone has bought this counter? May I know if I buy before suspension, how much I will earn today? If anyone knows how to do the math, then maybe we can search for the next counter that are coming out from PN17. |
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QUOTE(_alamak_ @ Jan 8 2008, 01:41 PM) Anyone follows FCW? PN17 is dangerousThis counter is just out from PN17 and the prices up like crazy. Anyone has bought this counter? May I know if I buy before suspension, how much I will earn today? If anyone knows how to do the math, then maybe we can search for the next counter that are coming out from PN17. sekali you salah estimate, your counter might delist & all your money will go down to the drain |
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Jan 8 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 01:45 PM) PN17 is dangerous Like for FCW, they already got the approval. Everything should be proper right? Since they already got the approval, the risk to be delist should be very minimal. Please correct if I am too optimistics.sekali you salah estimate, your counter might delist & all your money will go down to the drain |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:53 PM) play safe, go for those counters which not yet go up a lot ya...i bought mine some at 1.16 and 1.14.....i'm nt sure how much more it will go up leh but will sell soon.......kinwawa bought her (or his?) UEMBLDR at 1.1x last week (or last two week), judging from today's price, you decide whether it is still safe to enter btw...i'm a 'His'...hahaha.... Added on January 8, 2008, 1:53 pm QUOTE(NaMyzarC @ Jan 8 2008, 12:28 PM) insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division ya...thanks! but too xpensive for me...those who has the capital.....can try and grab some...heheheeThis post has been edited by kinwawa: Jan 8 2008, 01:53 PM |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 12:19 PM) ha-ha, shares are in our blood! i want some of your blood too. Christmas over.. smiles still with xmas hat?  |
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QUOTE(_alamak_ @ Jan 8 2008, 01:50 PM) Like for FCW, they already got the approval. Everything should be proper right? Since they already got the approval, the risk to be delist should be very minimal. Please correct if I am too optimistics. i am not talking about FCW, i was referring to those PN17 countersno idea about FCW...  QUOTE(Vv.SoViEt.vV @ Jan 8 2008, 01:55 PM) i want some of your blood too. Christmas over.. smiles still with xmas hat? LYN still in xmas mood, lol |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(_alamak_ @ Jan 8 2008, 01:50 PM) Like for FCW, they already got the approval. Everything should be proper right? Since they already got the approval, the risk to be delist should be very minimal. Please correct if I am too optimistics. i made a big mistake on the last day of FCW trading day before the suspension.. I bought 30,000 of FCW-wa at 0.08, the star's alan voon said FCW warrant holders are stand to lose because the warrant holders were seen to lose under the regularisation exercise. I sold all my 30,000 of FCW-wa on the last day at 0.045 and lost bout RM1.2k. After just 1 and half months, trading resumed and u look at FCW-wa now...  what a painful experience....  This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 8 2008, 02:04 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:12 PM
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Since 2007 has come to an end, how much did you guys make from the share market?
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Jan 8 2008, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Jan 8 2008, 02:12 PM) Since 2007 has come to an end, how much did you guys make from the share market? i am in negative territory... almost 8k loss.. thanx to subprime of august |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 02:14 PM) i am in negative territory... almost 8k loss.. thanx to subprime of august yah, subprime sucks  |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 02:14 PM) i am in negative territory... almost 8k loss.. thanx to subprime of august Paper loss? Or have you sold off all? |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Jan 8 2008, 02:23 PM) Paper loss? Or have you sold off all? realised losses.. subprime alone took away almost 12k from me.. And that makes my earlier profit wiped out. Counters like Lien Hoe, Equine, Ranhill, KBES, HK Cws helped to make some money the whole year.. |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 02:27 PM) realised losses.. subprime alone took away almost 12k from me.. And that makes my earlier profit wiped out. Counters like Lien Hoe, Equine, Ranhill, KBES, HK Cws helped to make some money the whole year.. verbatim, what is LIEN HOE counter name?the tower is located at Tropicana there, right? |
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Jan 8 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 02:32 PM) verbatim, what is LIEN HOE counter name? Yes.. They are also used to own Asia Jaya (Armada Hotel) along the federal highway. It was stagnant for sometime at around 25 cents. I bought it there and sold at 0.38 prior to the subprime crisis...the tower is located at Tropicana there, right? Added on January 8, 2008, 3:07 pmHaaa?? Equine dashing man! WHo bought ah? This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 8 2008, 03:07 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:12 PM
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baru got equine @ 3.3
Added on January 8, 2008, 3:24 pm@PANA bought equine alredy? This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 8 2008, 03:24 PM |
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 03:12 PM) baru got equine @ 3.3 EQUINE @ 3.30? now baru 2.xx only ah Added on January 8, 2008, 3:24 pm@PANA bought equine alredy? ahem, yes, kutip a little before 12.30PM just now  |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:32 PM
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[quote=panasonic88,Jan 8 2008, 03:25 PM]
EQUINE @ 3.30? now baru 2.xx only ah 2.30 la sharesa... 3.30 is pre sub prime crisis price leh |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:34 PM
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verbatim, how about you? bought EQUINE?
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Jan 8 2008, 03:37 PM
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[quote=verbatim,Jan 8 2008, 03:32 PM]
[quote=panasonic88,Jan 8 2008, 03:25 PM] EQUINE @ 3.30? now baru 2.xx only ah 2.30 la sharesa... 3.30 is pre sub prime crisis price leh [/quote] oh ya...ya 2.30 |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 03:34 PM) verbatim, how about you? bought EQUINE? the moment i saw it start moving in the afternoon session, i caught 2,000 at 2.26.. no bullet for more leh.. |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 03:47 PM) the moment i saw it start moving in the afternoon session, i caught 2,000 at 2.26.. no bullet for more leh.. Anybody eyeing on TENAGA. 1 of GE gavornment link counter. now it's moving... |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 03:47 PM) the moment i saw it start moving in the afternoon session, i caught 2,000 at 2.26.. no bullet for more leh.. are u going to let go today? |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 03:49 PM) are u going to let go today? depends on the market.. i noticed that Equine has moved from 2.10 level in the last 3-4 market days... Watching Dow futures also which is weakening again.. Will decide at about 4.30pm... i can buy back if it falls... |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:52 PM
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INVESTORS ARE RETURNING
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Is this mini bull coming back today?
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Jan 8 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 8 2008, 03:50 PM) Is this mini bull coming back today? Anyone fancy PECD????  If i am not mistaken it is linked to the Government also.. |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 8 2008, 03:50 PM) Is this mini bull coming back today? started few days agothe pre-GE rally |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:56 PM
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Lee Kuan Yew made a statment that Malaysia's economy is strong & resilient for this whole year. It was in the news.
Maybe that prompted overseas & local investors to start buying |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 03:51 PM) depends on the market.. i noticed that Equine has moved from 2.10 level in the last 3-4 market days... Watching Dow futures also which is weakening again.. Will decide at about 4.30pm... i can buy back if it falls... Dow futures at +7 points after hovering above +30 this morning.. not a good sign.. furthermore, Dow really tried hard to go back to positive territory at the closing last nite.. so, i expect Dow to fall tonite, profit taking in Bursa tomoro.. I may let go Equine soon... |
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Jan 8 2008, 03:59 PM
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as for me, i might do the same, too
although i forsee EQUINE may cheong for another day |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:01 PM
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go go UEMBLDR! my TP is nearer!
Sapcres on d move as well....dialog too....gambatte! |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 03:59 PM) as for me, i might do the same, too true... i believe so.. Equine will rally after a minor pullback, when broader market pulls back, no counter will survivealthough i forsee EQUINE may cheong for another day I am going to let go equine now.. This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 8 2008, 04:05 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:09 PM
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I just let go 2.36, got $100 + pun jadi le.....
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Jan 8 2008, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 04:02 PM) true... i believe so.. Equine will rally after a minor pullback, when broader market pulls back, no counter will survive Let go equine at 2.36.. dapat duit kopi.. can go secret recipe today leh... I am going to let go equine now.. Added on January 8, 2008, 4:12 pm QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 04:09 PM) I just let go 2.36, got $100 + pun jadi le..... hahahaha.. sharesa.. we let go at the same time leh...  This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 8 2008, 04:12 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 04:09 PM) I just let go 2.36, got $100 + pun jadi le..... sikit sikit lama lama jadi bukit  |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(KingRichard @ Jan 8 2008, 04:14 PM) sikit sikit lama lama jadi bukit equien is diving down.... good choice ur guys sell at 2.36 |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 04:10 PM) Let go equine at 2.36.. dapat duit kopi.. can go secret recipe today leh... ha ha.... that was fun Added on January 8, 2008, 4:12 pm hahahaha.. sharesa.. we let go at the same time leh... Added on January 8, 2008, 4:28 pmI think equine can climb somemore, too scared to hold a high PE counter though Added on January 8, 2008, 4:37 pmLook at amount of buyers for Sapcres! This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 8 2008, 04:37 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 8 2008, 04:22 PM) ha ha.... that was fun Queue to sell my sapcres n uembldr already! Hope can sell today.......Added on January 8, 2008, 4:28 pmI think equine can climb somemore, too scared to hold a high PE counter though Added on January 8, 2008, 4:37 pmLook at amount of buyers for Sapcres! |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:42 PM
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I will go shopping tomoro leh...
wah Equine is rocketing now... 2.43 This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 8 2008, 04:45 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:47 PM
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haha guys, i sold a little early too
EQUINE buy 2000 shares @ 2.250 sell 2000 shares @ 2.400 kutip 200+ ang pow, not bad la for a start for 2008 |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:52 PM
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finally sold my UEMBLDR at 1.36! Waiting for sapcres now...come on come on!
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Jan 8 2008, 04:54 PM
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wow congratz kinwawa, you are out from the UEM hell gate
aiyoyo, EQUINE continue to cheong, geng ah! today probably can close at 2.50! |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:00 PM
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This is we called pre-GE or pre-cny rally, people are getting their 'Ang Pow' already.
KLSE is detaching itself from the world market currently, look at Maybank, up a whooping 70cents in a day. Kind interest to know whether who moves it as substantial shareholders need to disclose their changing position if they did in 1 or 2 weeks time. Seems like a rotation play on heavy index linked counters. Wanna to do 1500 for GE show-off? This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 8 2008, 05:01 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 8 2008, 05:00 PM) This is we called pre-GE or pre-cny rally, people are getting their 'Ang Pow' already. Dow futures back to +33.00.. Haiya, if not for that +5.00 just now, I may still hold on tight to Equine.. Not our money loh.. KLSE is detaching itself from the world market currently, look at Maybank, up a whooping 70cents in a day. Kind interest to know whether who moves it as substantial shareholders need to disclose their changing position if they did in 1 or 2 weeks time. Seems like a rotation play on heavy index linked counters. Wanna to do 1500 for GE show-off? |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:03 PM
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my sapcres not done yet...have to wait n c how the market perform tomolo......hopefully rally somemore!
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Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM
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i place order to sell the bat@41.75 from morning till now not manage to sell it off
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Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM
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come on, beat the 1500!!
sharesa, verbatim, we sold EQUINE too early liao but never mind la, as long as we enjoy the process~! |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 05:03 PM) my sapcres not done yet...have to wait n c how the market perform tomolo......hopefully rally somemore! surely there will be strength early in the morning.. I suggest u monitor and sell high... good luck |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 8 2008, 05:00 PM) This is we called pre-GE or pre-cny rally, people are getting their 'Ang Pow' already. looks like all local funds playing...this is bad news? KLSE is detaching itself from the world market currently, look at Maybank, up a whooping 70cents in a day. Kind interest to know whether who moves it as substantial shareholders need to disclose their changing position if they did in 1 or 2 weeks time. Seems like a rotation play on heavy index linked counters. Wanna to do 1500 for GE show-off? |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM) come on, beat the 1500!! Ha ha ha ha.. We get some money, those who bought from us also get some money mah..... Anyway, that ride with you guys was fun! sharesa, verbatim, we sold EQUINE too early liao but never mind la, as long as we enjoy the process~! |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 05:06 PM) Ha ha ha ha.. We get some money, those who bought from us also get some money mah..... Anyway, that ride with you guys was fun! congrats congrats....if u all happy i'm also happy for u all! hahaha....hope everyday will be like this till CNY!ang pow mali ang pow mali! |
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Jan 8 2008, 05:42 PM
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wow so long never see trading value hitting 3billion.
i dun trust equine leh. very ez to fall into the trap i like uembldr! cause im still losing money on that..hehe kinstel slowing creeping up everyday... i wonder if will kena goreng. steel counters no movement lately rite? |
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Jan 8 2008, 06:42 PM
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Wow, 1550 target looks more possible day by day.
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Jan 8 2008, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 8 2008, 05:42 PM) wow so long never see trading value hitting 3billion. I believe steel counters already had their turn, so did plantation which saw some profit taking today. Commerz and Maybank represent the financial side which has been boosted. Since when did Maybank ever go up so high in a day?i dun trust equine leh. very ez to fall into the trap i like uembldr! cause im still losing money on that..hehe kinstel slowing creeping up everyday... i wonder if will kena goreng. steel counters no movement lately rite? Construction like UEM, MRCB, GAMUDA also had their share of boosts. Properties like EQUINE are the obvious ones linked to government, not sure about the rest of properties that didn't move as much. Try to find GLCs that has yet to be touched or pushed up yet. SAPCRES seem like a good counter to bet on or maybe TIMECOM as well?? Don't take my word for it, make your own assumptions. |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 04:47 PM) haha guys, i sold a little early too EQUINE buy 2000 shares @ 2.250 sell 2000 shares @ 2.400 kutip 200+ ang pow, not bad la for a start for 2008 QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 8 2008, 04:52 PM) finally sold my UEMBLDR at 1.36! Waiting for sapcres now...come on come on! congratz guysAdded on January 8, 2008, 7:10 pm QUOTE(KingRichard @ Jan 8 2008, 05:05 PM) looks like all local funds playing...this is bad news? not only local funds are playing, I believe foreign investors too.Just one hour ago I heard an interview to a foreign capital investment company, Star Asset Management, they are positive on Malaysian stocks. (This kind of news has not been heard since August!) Added on January 8, 2008, 7:12 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM) come on, beat the 1500!! I never regret, had I not click on the buy button, nothing will be gained today sharesa, verbatim, we sold EQUINE too early liao but never mind la, as long as we enjoy the process~! This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 8 2008, 07:12 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:12 PM
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Sigh, Only managed to get 200 units of exmobil-c1 at 0.8 . I queue 100000 units. now back to 0.09..
Added on January 8, 2008, 7:14 pmpanasonic88, y not concentrate on Apple/Exmobil/HSI-c2 ? these stocks are relatively cheaper. You can earn by quantity. Added on January 8, 2008, 7:16 pm200 units * 0.08 = RM16only.. Even the broker fee also more expensive than the 200 units.. SIGH This post has been edited by alivecmh: Jan 8 2008, 07:16 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:19 PM
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sigh, tomorrow busy so first-half will have to miss completely.
Sapcres is in the money now, but I will not let go until it nears my TP: 2.50. Must untung kau-kau otherwise too much in/out end up with much lesser profit. (at this point of time, I believe it can't drop back to 1.50 again) Added on January 8, 2008, 7:28 pm QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 8 2008, 07:12 PM) Sigh, Only managed to get 200 units of exmobil-c1 at 0.8 . I queue 100000 units. now back to 0.09.. aiyo , Alive, 100k units , that's a lot! Added on January 8, 2008, 7:14 pmpanasonic88, y not concentrate on Apple/Exmobil/HSI-c2 ? these stocks are relatively cheaper. You can earn by quantity. Added on January 8, 2008, 7:16 pm200 units * 0.08 = RM16only.. Even the broker fee also more expensive than the 200 units.. SIGH exmobil in US is doing well , is it? This post has been edited by sharesa: Jan 8 2008, 07:28 PM |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:30 PM
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yup, doing very well. In fact. if u monitor exmobil and apple, u will find the there follow the common pattern.
When DJIA up/down abit, these 2 shares will rally ! It only plunge when DJIA plunge severely. That's y i set my target price to buy these 2 shares at 0.08 |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 8 2008, 07:30 PM) yup, doing very well. In fact. if u monitor exmobil and apple, u will find the there follow the common pattern. hmmm...I see... at least get some idea , tks.When DJIA up/down abit, these 2 shares will rally ! It only plunge when DJIA plunge severely. That's y i set my target price to buy these 2 shares at 0.08 |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:58 PM
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Angpow comes early this year hor...
Maybank cheong, MRCB cheong, KULIM cheong, EQUINE cheong, Gamuda also cheong... Becareful... wait DJIA/HSI plunge satu kali kau kau then HKCW can buy liao... I think KLCI is being goreng'ed to earn money... GE still months away... I think GE after CNY... most likely March liao... |
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Jan 8 2008, 08:06 PM
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The day should be coming. Anyone have the calendar when those Big financial institute in US going to announce their 4Q Financial result ? Coz i believe those are the day you c DJIA plunge kau kau if the result is lower than expected. i only know citibank will announce on 15th.
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Jan 8 2008, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM) i place order to sell the bat@41.75 from morning till now not manage to sell it off wahlao, why you play BAT? so "lang mum" stock, buyer & seller also very little QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 8 2008, 07:12 PM) Sigh, Only managed to get 200 units of exmobil-c1 at 0.8 . I queue 100000 units. now back to 0.09.. alivecmh, not buying any foregin warrant until i see the green lights Added on January 8, 2008, 7:14 pmpanasonic88, y not concentrate on Apple/Exmobil/HSI-c2 ? these stocks are relatively cheaper. You can earn by quantity. Added on January 8, 2008, 7:16 pm200 units * 0.08 = RM16only.. Even the broker fee also more expensive than the 200 units.. SIGH |
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Jan 8 2008, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(NaMyzarC @ Jan 8 2008, 12:28 PM) insider news - grab and keep umw shares for potential share split and listing for umw oil and gas division mate, i found this from thestar, is this something similar to your insider news?QUOTE 3rd Jan 2008 UMW - Proposed share split involving the subdivision of every one existing ordinary share of RM1.00 each into two ordinary shares of RM0.50 each. |
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Jan 8 2008, 09:30 PM
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wow guys, future +72.00
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Jan 8 2008, 10:33 PM
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DJIA opens the day in GREEN:
12,880.65 +53.16 +0.41% |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:21 PM
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sharesa, look at apple-c1 again, already surge almost 2%, djia only surge 0.5%
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Jan 8 2008, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 8 2008, 11:21 PM) sharesa, look at apple-c1 again, already surge almost 2%, djia only surge 0.5% so, in this case, in your opinion , what is a good price to enter tomorrow? |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:51 PM
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for me, I won;t enter so early. I'm waiting until it drop to 0.07 or 0.08, then only i will buy. FYI. I think you can hold this share until march or later(when DJ recovering) when it start bearing fruits. This is just my point. Please judge by yourself.
google - http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GOOG Apple - http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL Exmobil - http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=XOM DJIA - http://quote.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=1d |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:59 AM
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OMG ... DJIA ends the day with:
12,589.07 -238.42 -1.86% |
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Jan 9 2008, 06:51 AM
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Oh bother, will KL be affected? or does it have a mind of its own?
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Jan 9 2008, 06:55 AM
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KLCI has been behavely strangely lately. So it's hard to say ...
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Jan 9 2008, 08:05 AM
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Time to grab HK/US CW !!
set ur lowest target price and bulk buy on itAdded on January 9, 2008, 8:07 ammy favorite of today CW especially hsi-c1, hsi-c2, apple-c1, exmobil-c1 This post has been edited by alivecmh: Jan 9 2008, 08:07 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 9 2008, 05:59 AM) OMG ... DJIA ends the day with: Time to shop 12,589.07 -238.42 -1.86% Added on January 9, 2008, 8:35 am QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 9 2008, 08:18 AM) Time to shop DJIA crashed more than 230 pts in the last 1.5 hrs of trading... panic selling wo.. This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 9 2008, 08:35 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:45 AM
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Hehe... either today morning or tomorrow...
Dont look at Dow... the correction comes in S&P 500... Has it drop 10%? |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 9 2008, 08:45 AM) Hehe... either today morning or tomorrow... u mean it will crash further??? whats the reason behind it??Dont look at Dow... the correction comes in S&P 500... Has it drop 10%? as i know, the last hour crash was due earning's report by telcos.. |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:01 AM
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ALL RED ON MY MONITOR....
Trading still thin... HKCW still got a lot of room to drop... Added on January 9, 2008, 9:04 amLooks like pro investor is dealing HKCW... Didnt drop much... Now is the time that HSI-C1 is attractive... If HSI open -500++, it will plunge again but if only -200 or so, sure untung... Added on January 9, 2008, 9:06 am QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 9 2008, 08:54 AM) u mean it will crash further??? whats the reason behind it?? You wait financial reports on 4Q to see real crash la...as i know, the last hour crash was due earning's report by telcos.. Citi Group, Merrill, JP Morgan, Bear Sterns will report soon... Citi first... Citi will write down 11B but Goldman says not 11B but 18B.... LOL This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 9 2008, 09:06 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:17 AM
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Sienzzzz ooo....
No sell off... price remain stable... Curse HSI opening -700 then u see selloff... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:18 AM
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most big caps are down this morning...
but i think there will be a U turn later |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:21 AM
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only ta-w n scomi can c only
the rest like shit |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:27 AM
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Property turn what... MKland on the upside...
As expected, our market isnt really that dependent on US market. I just waiting to see HKCW big big drop nia. I tot Pana busy this morning... looks like not... hahahaha |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:30 AM
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i am here laaaaa, hehe
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Jan 9 2008, 09:42 AM
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oh oh...coming down again....my uembldr!!!
not sure what to pick...today is actually a gud day to buy later 11:30am the big fish will come... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 9 2008, 09:30 AM) i am here laaaaa, hehe Your avatar is very cute....  Added on January 9, 2008, 9:50 amBTW, Im queueing for HSI-C1 @ 0.65 This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 9 2008, 09:50 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:56 AM
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What you guys see today?
I am hesitating to sell off all my shares... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:59 AM
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Dunno... I dont think haf to sell all la...
Cos maybe US will rebound tonite (prediction nia cos S&P fell 10% jor)... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jan 9 2008, 09:56 AM) What you guys see today? fear when ppl greed, greed when ppl fear. I am hesitating to sell off all my shares... so its a wrong time to sell today when red. lol. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 9 2008, 09:59 AM) Dunno... I dont think haf to sell all la... Ermm..why need to look on S&P? Usually i look on DJ index.Cos maybe US will rebound tonite (prediction nia cos S&P fell 10% jor)... From last Dec before Dec cut rate, it plunge till 12700++ before rallying to 13700++ (based on Dec FED cut rate) and drop after news come out. This coming Thursday, Bernanke (FED) will give some speech. Dunno he will indicate there would be another cut rate by end of this month. or let it drop kao kao until next Tuesday(Citibank announce its financial result) So guys, what do u think? wanna buy today or wait until next Tuesday after Citibank announce its financial result? I assume next Tuesday will be good buying opportunities. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:08 AM
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HSI doesnt drop anymore... issit also anticipating the correction on US market tonite?
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Jan 9 2008, 10:09 AM
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anyone grab some share this morning...
i plan to get some equine... but the price still high.... thumb up for uem builder... keep it up.... hehehe got some share |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 9 2008, 10:07 AM) Ermm..why need to look on S&P? Usually i look on DJ index. S&P is more accurate in determine how the market is going since it track a much larger pool of stock. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:12 AM
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Im eyeing Satang...
I think got ppl short selling... Usually it goes up a lot early in the morning, back to normal at the end of the day... Still eyeing... |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 9 2008, 09:59 AM) fear when ppl greed, greed when ppl fear. But those counters I pumped 2 weeks ago all went up...so its a wrong time to sell today when red. lol. TA, UEMBlder... All not bad ma... Anyway, I wanna cut losses and sell off all. Only counters I have now are TA, UEMBlder and IRIS. I bought UEM earlier (a yr ago) at RM1.70. Now, recently bought another round at RM1.15 So, at current price... it contras off. TA, I bought at RM1.25 Iris - This one suicide... bought at RM0.295, RM0.24 - So, this one big loss. But if I sell all now, I will get 0 loss. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:26 AM
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EQUINE cheong again...
I tot wanna wait till RM2.30 |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:31 AM
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You guys have heard of N2N? Any news on this? I am planning to buy it...
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Jan 9 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 9 2008, 10:09 AM) anyone grab some share this morning... I want to buy UEMBLDR at 1.35 this morning... didn't get then jump to equine because it still redi plan to get some equine... but the price still high.... thumb up for uem builder... keep it up.... hehehe got some share I bought equine 2 lot early in the morning at 2.48 then it drop to 2.41...  now at 2.59 how high can it go today? This post has been edited by tsarena: Jan 9 2008, 10:34 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:32 AM
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Used to be quite hot lastime...
Less than RM1 cheong to RM2++ then now back to RM1.xx Got news? |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:36 AM
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just now i saw equine drop... -7cents... i wait drop more....
suddently now at +10cents really cheong |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:36 AM
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for equine... too early to let go at rm2.70?
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Jan 9 2008, 10:37 AM
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just now i saw equine drop... -7cents... i wait drop more....
suddently now at +10cents really cheong |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 9 2008, 10:32 AM) Used to be quite hot lastime... Donno... seems like always got news and they say copany is kinda stable. Not the goreng type.Less than RM1 cheong to RM2++ then now back to RM1.xx Got news? My sis just bought 30000 units. (30 lots). So... donno la. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:44 AM
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Have faith in the GE rally ladies and gentlemen, KLCI is now in it's own bubble unaffected by world events.
Though I prefer the market to crash and burn so I can pick up cheap shares. |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:47 AM
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wah...all cont to go up leh....today got hope to sell my sapcres liao! set a new TP first...heheheh
Added on January 9, 2008, 10:50 am QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 9 2008, 10:47 AM) wah...all cont to go up leh....today got hope to sell my sapcres liao! set a new TP first...heheheh hope my symphny-wa also go up somemore leh......Added on January 9, 2008, 11:01 amgreed when ppl fear....fear when ppl greed.....hehehehe.....i'm selling most of my shares during this period.....hehehe..i fear liao This post has been edited by kinwawa: Jan 9 2008, 11:01 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:14 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen good news for those who trade online. Consider trading in hlebroking online because their brokerage fee is low. Just only receive an email from there. Share it with you guys.
I am not sure whether it applies to new member or only for the on-going member ------------------------------------------- In recognition of your continued support, we are pleased to inform you that our minimum brokerage for online share trading will remain at RM 12. As per our earlier announcement, our intraday rate has been reduced from 0.15% to 0.10% with effect from 2nd January 2008. That means you get lower rates and higher profits when you conduct your online share trading with us.. ------------------------------------------- This post has been edited by xtreme82: Jan 9 2008, 11:15 AM |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(xtreme82 @ Jan 9 2008, 11:14 AM) ------------------------------------------ wow good news for online traders indeed! In recognition of your continued support, we are pleased to inform you that our minimum brokerage for online share trading will remain at RM 12. As per our earlier announcement, our intraday rate has been reduced from 0.15% to 0.10% with effect from 2nd January 2008. That means you get lower rates and higher profits when you conduct your online share trading with us.. ------------------------------------------- |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 9 2008, 11:32 AM) wow good news for online traders indeed! sigh..only happen to be good news for hlebroking.me is existing RHB-Invest trader..minimum RM28 Is the system good to use? seldom breakdown? smooth? |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(xtreme82 @ Jan 9 2008, 11:14 AM) Ladies and Gentlemen good news for those who trade online. Consider trading in hlebroking online because their brokerage fee is low. Just only receive an email from there. Share it with you guys. I wonder if the other banks have got similar announcements I am not sure whether it applies to new member or only for the on-going member ------------------------------------------- In recognition of your continued support, we are pleased to inform you that our minimum brokerage for online share trading will remain at RM 12. As per our earlier announcement, our intraday rate has been reduced from 0.15% to 0.10% with effect from 2nd January 2008. That means you get lower rates and higher profits when you conduct your online share trading with us.. ------------------------------------------- coz I'm with CIMB |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 9 2008, 11:57 AM) I wonder if the other banks have got similar announcements I'm using CIMB and as of yesterday, the price is still RM28. coz I'm with CIMB |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 9 2008, 10:44 AM) Have faith in the GE rally ladies and gentlemen, KLCI is now in it's own bubble unaffected by world events. You are so right. Although DJ drop so much, our KLCI back to green. Though I prefer the market to crash and burn so I can pick up cheap shares. |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 9 2008, 11:56 AM) sigh..only happen to be good news for hlebroking. So far i am very happy with their service and up until now got once or twice only system slow. Have been using it for the pass 1.5 years. The registration is free of charge previously but now i am not too sure about it. Atleast is way better than maybank me is existing RHB-Invest trader..minimum RM28 Is the system good to use? seldom breakdown? smooth? |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 8 2008, 03:54 PM) Anyone fancy PECD???? PECD still on rise leh... up about 6 cents yesterday and today alone.. missed it.,... If i am not mistaken it is linked to the Government also.. 6 cents for 37 cents share... sigh Added on January 9, 2008, 12:36 pm QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 9 2008, 12:34 PM) PECD still on rise leh... up about 6 cents yesterday and today alone.. missed it.,... HSI in green ready leh 6 cents for 37 cents share... sigh This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 9 2008, 12:36 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:49 PM
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average how long would it take for me to receive check for my dividen?
Still have not receive for Tenaga and Dialog in Dec 07. Anywhere to check? This post has been edited by X-Zen: Jan 9 2008, 12:49 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Jan 9 2008, 12:49 PM) average how long would it take for me to receive check for my dividen? i got my DIALOG checque already on last week...Still have not receive for Tenaga and Dialog in Dec 07. Anywhere to check? |
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Jan 9 2008, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 9 2008, 12:51 PM) i got my DIALOG checque already on last week... me too... a bit only nia.... |
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Jan 9 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 9 2008, 01:14 PM) me too... a bit only nia.... Info: 15 Jan 2008 - US Nov business inventories -US Citigroup Inc Q4 results. LPS forecast 0.67 usd vs EPS 1.03 16 Jan 2008 - US JP Morgan Chase & Co will release Q4 results. EPS forecast 1.01 usd vs 1.09 Seem next week not good. Analysts forecast that Citibank and JP Morgan financial result very bad. |
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Jan 9 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 9 2008, 01:37 PM) Info: If analysts forecast the result is bad, but it comes out better than forecast, it is good news.15 Jan 2008 - US Nov business inventories -US Citigroup Inc Q4 results. LPS forecast 0.67 usd vs EPS 1.03 16 Jan 2008 - US JP Morgan Chase & Co will release Q4 results. EPS forecast 1.01 usd vs 1.09 Seem next week not good. Analysts forecast that Citibank and JP Morgan financial result very bad. If forecast is good, but result is not so good, BAD NEWS! |
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Jan 9 2008, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(_alamak_ @ Jan 9 2008, 01:40 PM) If analysts forecast the result is bad, but it comes out better than forecast, it is good news. Well that is risks need to take when trading next week. I prefer not to take it. If forecast is good, but result is not so good, BAD NEWS! Too high risks to bear. |
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Jan 9 2008, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 9 2008, 12:51 PM) i got my DIALOG checque already on last week... same also coz par value is 0.1 |
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Jan 9 2008, 03:18 PM
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property stocks now hot leh...
probably start of rotational play into property stocks... This post has been edited by KingRichard: Jan 9 2008, 03:28 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(KingRichard @ Jan 9 2008, 03:18 PM) property stocks now hot leh... wahhhh... suddenly so quiet... busy selling ka??? probably start of rotational play into property stocks... |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 9 2008, 04:12 PM) wahhhh... suddenly so quiet... busy selling ka??? i was also thinking of the same thing...  |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(KingRichard @ Jan 9 2008, 04:14 PM) i was also thinking of the same thing... i am sure many selling now. A friend of mine just dumped 80 lots of MUIND at 0.44 he bought it at 0.48 it seems... stucked for 4 months or so... cut loss leh.. |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:30 PM
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yalo...all waiting for the 4.30pm surge! hehehehe
wah....my symphny-wa...good job! |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 9 2008, 04:30 PM) i am sure many selling now. A friend of mine just dumped 80 lots of MUIND at 0.44 maybe I'm wrong but I tot this is the time to hold for a while, otherwise may end up buying something crept up too high & may end up in loss again.he bought it at 0.48 it seems... stucked for 4 months or so... cut loss leh.. |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:34 PM
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Know wat cause the sudden reversal rebound in Asia region??
even HSI manage to come back & closed +500! |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:39 PM
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today is more likely HKCW day
i wonder did kapitan get his HSI-C1? it is bullish today! |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:48 PM
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uembldr seem loss power already...
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Jan 9 2008, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 9 2008, 04:48 PM) uembldr seem loss power already... profit taking for shopping during tomolo's holiday? hehehe |
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Jan 9 2008, 04:57 PM
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Is KLSE open tomorrow?
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Jan 9 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(alchemisT @ Jan 9 2008, 04:57 PM) Is KLSE open tomorrow? tomolo public holiday, tarak buka |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(alchemisT @ Jan 9 2008, 04:57 PM) Is KLSE open tomorrow? i dun think so...tomolo is a public holiday rite.....happy holiday! |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 9 2008, 04:34 PM) Know wat cause the sudden reversal rebound in Asia region?? Reason:even HSI manage to come back & closed +500! Share prices closed higher as property stocks were supported by growing hopes for further US interest rate cuts, while commodity counters surged after a fresh rise in gold and crude oil prices. Dealers also noted that mainland banks saw renewed interest on hopes of solid 2007 earnings after China Merchants Bank projected 110 pct growth in net profit earlier this week. The Hang Seng index closed up 502.95 points or 1.86 pct at 27,615.85. |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(alchemisT @ Jan 9 2008, 04:57 PM) Is KLSE open tomorrow? Tomorrow markeat close la, should buy all you can today , this coming Friday is history in the making, KLSE will break 1,500 points. You read it here first (Hopefully my crystal ball is tuned properly) . E & OE. |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 9 2008, 05:35 PM) Tomorrow markeat close la, should buy all you can today Since last 3 trading days, everyday is making historic all time high liao.. , this coming Friday is history in the making, KLSE will break 1,500 points. You read it here first (Hopefully my crystal ball is tuned properly) . E & OE. But sadly, din managed to catch up..waiting for another round. hopefully got..  |
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Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM
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Becareful for those short term trade, don't be too greedy.
 Market high possibility will ride on momentum to shoot higher as people will 'bang' on GE rumour to play on it. As long it doesn't die off, it will be quite awhile for this market to have strength. As always a reminder although not foolproof, it is always a piece of good advice, Buy on rumour and sell on news. Enjoy the market while good, just don't be too greedy. |
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Jan 9 2008, 06:19 PM
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All this record high in KLCI my portfolio only increase a bit
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Jan 9 2008, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM) Becareful for those short term trade, don't be too greedy. Wise words from our mod. But we all greedy guts!! Market high possibility will ride on momentum to shoot higher as people will 'bang' on GE rumour to play on it. As long it doesn't die off, it will be quite awhile for this market to have strength. As always a reminder although not foolproof, it is always a piece of good advice, Buy on rumour and sell on news. Enjoy the market while good, just don't be too greedy. |
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Jan 9 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM) Becareful for those short term trade, don't be too greedy. Market high possibility will ride on momentum to shoot higher as people will 'bang' on GE rumour to play on it. As long it doesn't die off, it will be quite awhile for this market to have strength. As always a reminder although not foolproof, it is always a piece of good advice, Buy on rumour and sell on news. Enjoy the market while good, just don't be too greedy. a good advice there, well said..QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 9 2008, 06:29 PM) Wise words from our mod. But we all greedy guts!! this is true..just hope dont lose all la.. |
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Jan 9 2008, 08:43 PM
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Pana,
I no get HSI-C1 la... queue for 0.65 le... hahaha KLCI really high liao, today MahSing cheong, MUIxxx cheong, MKLand cheong... Im still eyeing Satang... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:08 PM
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Jan 9 2008, 10:39 PM
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You gotta love Goldman...
Just because they said recession is near, US lose its appetite for a correction... I wonder HSI and HKCW rally a little bit too early today??? Lets wait and see if Goldman wins or correction wins... This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 9 2008, 10:40 PM |
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Jan 9 2008, 10:40 PM
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DJIA starts the day in GREEN with:
12,605.98 +16.91 +0.13% |
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Jan 9 2008, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 9 2008, 05:58 PM) Becareful for those short term trade, don't be too greedy. ya....i'm already exiting the market with acceptable profits....dowan to be too greedy......waiting for slight correction to buy some dividen counters lo...... Market high possibility will ride on momentum to shoot higher as people will 'bang' on GE rumour to play on it. As long it doesn't die off, it will be quite awhile for this market to have strength. As always a reminder although not foolproof, it is always a piece of good advice, Buy on rumour and sell on news. Enjoy the market while good, just don't be too greedy. i think Fri will be another good day though |
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Jan 10 2008, 06:56 AM
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DJIA closed the day with:
12,735.31 +146.24 +1.16% |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:00 AM
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KLCI closes in on 1,500 mark
PETALING JAYA: The KL Composite Index (KLCI) was a whisker away from the critical resistance level of 1,500 points yesterday. The benchmark index hit a new intra-day peak of 1,498.86 points in the afternoon. It ended the day 1.92 points up at 1,491.66 following some late profit-taking activity ahead of a public holiday today. Selling on major banking stocks also helped prevent the local bourse from breaching the 1,500-point level, dealers said. All is not lost, however, as analysts and fund managers believe that it will only be a "matter of time" before the index reaches 1,500 points and, more importantly, a breakout after that level. Pacific Mutual Fund Bhd chief executive officer and chief investment officer Michael Auyeong said: "The current momentum is strong. "The local market has been on a run since the third week of December, very much against the grain of global markets. Volumes have been impressive and market breadth has gotten progressively better." Auyeong believes that the local market's defensive nature, its domestic-oriented drivers against a backdrop of global uncertainty, and the push in the commodity segment are the main attractions that will continue to drive the market. "And, of course, at this point is the 'popular' speculation on the timing of general election factor (which is pushing up the index)," he said. According to him, the 1,500-point level might give the market an excuse to pause and "catch its breath," but technicals suggest a breakout would follow not long after a short respite. Fortress Capital Asset Management (M) Sdn Bhd associate director, investment Michael Lai said: "At this level, the market is definitely trying to test the 1,500 level. The election play is obvious but healthy commodity prices, loans growth from the banking sector and foreign fund inflows are also helping keep the market robust." Auyeong warned that while the current run-up in the KLCI had fundamental basis, a wholesale decoupling from global markets might not be so easy to achieve. "Major overseas markets, which are currently a bit oversold, may experience some short-term technical rebound but there are some critical support levels, which if broken, could lead to significantly more downside in global equities," he said. In such circumstances, the KLCI's performance might grind to a halt, he said, adding: "Realistically, there are a lot of uncertainties that global investors are grappling with." Lai advised inventors who wished to go into the market now to "not chase stocks." "Go into more liquid counters, such as blue-chip firms, which will allow you to exit when you have to, and maybe mid-cap companies which are resource-based." Credit Suisse country head and head of research Stephen Hagger took a long-term view on the KLCI. "We remain positive on the performance of the local bourse, which is supported by solid pre-election pump-priming measures." He said the robust growth of plantation-related companies, thanks to firm crude palm oil prices, and continued restructuring of government-linked companies would sustain the market's performance in the longer run. "The rest of the world looks pretty nasty right now but Malaysia seems all right. It remains our top pick in the region," Hagger said. Meanwhile, in line with the bullish market trend yesterday, the ringgit climbed to 3.2655 against the US dollar - a fresh 10-year high following buoyant demand for the local unit. Dealers said the ringgit would remain on an upward momentum, given the weakening greenback and URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...57&sec=business |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:31 AM
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For HK-CW, I think CNOOC-C1 is a good buy, as it's trading at a negative premium right now..based on current prices the warrant should be at least 33 cents..
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Jan 10 2008, 11:39 AM
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look at apple. surge 4.76% (8 USD).
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Jan 10 2008, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 9 2008, 05:05 PM) tomolo public holiday, tarak buka QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 9 2008, 05:05 PM) i dun think so...tomolo is a public holiday rite.....happy holiday! QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 9 2008, 05:35 PM) Tomorrow markeat close la, should buy all you can today Thank you and happy holiday to all! , this coming Friday is history in the making, KLSE will break 1,500 points. You read it here first (Hopefully my crystal ball is tuned properly) . E & OE.@sinclairZX81 I'm just looking forward to clear all my stocks as much as possible. |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:04 PM
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do you guys notice that the entire regions are not following US Dow Jones anymore
US up 146 points last night, look at today's market, almost all regions closed in red except Shanghai... |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:32 PM
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DJIA starts the day with:
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Jan 10 2008, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 10 2008, 10:04 PM) do you guys notice that the entire regions are not following US Dow Jones anymore decoupling? or maybe people just fed up with the us... US up 146 points last night, look at today's market, almost all regions closed in red except Shanghai... |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 10 2008, 10:04 PM) do you guys notice that the entire regions are not following US Dow Jones anymore good, other regions are not robots anymore.... US up 146 points last night, look at today's market, almost all regions closed in red except Shanghai... |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:11 AM
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Tebrau Teguh (BUY/ RM1.31/ Target Price: RM5.00) In talks with MRCB? We understand that in an on-going conference in Singapore, Malaysian Resources Corporation (MRCB) has openly stated that they are currently in talks with Tebrau Teguh. Tebrau Teguh (42% owned by Kumpulan Prasarana Rakyat Johor, Johor's state government development arm) owns the largest undeveloped landbank (1,012 acres) within a 5km radius from Johor Bahru city centre. MRCB is the contractor for the RM1b Eastern Dispersal Link (EDL) which will connect the North South Expressway to Tebrau, Johor Bahru City Centre and Nusajaya. The EDL will improve accessibility in South Johor and boost surrounding land values, with Tebrau Teguh being the prime beneficiary. Tebrau Teguh has the strongest RNAV upgrade potential in the sector as commercial land in Johor Bahru city centre have been transacted at RM110psf vs its current book value of just RM13.40psf. At RM110psf, Tebrau Teguh's RNAV is RM7.06. Maintain BUY. Added on January 11, 2008, 12:13 amDJ MARKET TALK: CS Keeps UEM World At Outperform, Target MYR5.88 10/01/2008 01:13:00 AM 0113 GMT [Dow Jones] STOCK CALL: Credit Suisse keeps UEM World (1775.KU) at Outperform with target price of MYR5.88. Says views company as general election play, with election fever heating up in 1Q08. We view UEM World as a General Election play as election fever heats up in 1Q 2008; "Politically-linked stocks like UEM World are typical candidates to participate in any preelection rally." Says company also large, liquid Malaysian property play, beneficiary of EPF housing loan withdrawal plan now in effect. Notes shares lagging KLCI for past eight months, due to catch up given high correlation to KLCI. Expects more positive news flow as government's efforts to develop South Johor Economic Region (SJER) progress. Notes Khazanah announcement of Nusajaya theme park operator awaited; also, ongoing Malaysia-Singapore discussions on smartcard access, monorail links between Johor, Singapore. Says also expects further land transactions between UEM World, foreign partners. Share ended Wednesday up 3.3% at MYR4.34; market closed today. (LES) This post has been edited by Jim: Jan 11 2008, 12:13 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 10 2008, 10:04 PM) do you guys notice that the entire regions are not following US Dow Jones anymore There has been speculation about the 10% drop correction and also a possible earlier than expected rate cut by 50 basis point. Of course, this only affect HK cos its the only one following Fed rate for Fed funds. HSI rallied that day caused by the possilibity of the 10% correction but it appears that the market as a whole didnt really goes well with it, plus Goldman issued a recession warning and GOLDMAN is highly rated by American and all around the world. Japan is one of the biggest exporter to Japan, so any negative news will send Nikkei tumbling. Taiwan is more affected by NASDAQ than DJIA/Nikkei/FTSE. US up 146 points last night, look at today's market, almost all regions closed in red except Shanghai... I dont think its wise to take China as a comparison. China itself will still expand quite rapidly albeit lower than expected even if US tumble into recession. I think its one of the reason why China has started to cool itself down so that it wont burst all of a sudden if things turn for worse in US. Just an example, China already started to reduce 10% output for steel product by shutting down inferior steel mills this year. Thats what send steel price rocketing lately. Not only that, they even impose a 15% export duty this year as compared to a 7% rebate for steel export last year. If China prepare for the worse, I think we should too. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:25 AM
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Eh, Sinopec shares owner should becareful...
Sinopec drop 6.5% on HSI on news that China is going to freeze price of energy related stuffs like Petrol and such. However CNOOC was on the upside and PetroChina drops a little bit. Whats going on huh... |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:56 AM
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DJIA closed the day with:
12,853.09 +117.78 +0.92% |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:11 AM
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1500+ d
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Jan 11 2008, 09:16 AM
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Today a big rally across the board...
Surely GE is coming liao... Maybank another big gainer today... |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 10 2008, 10:04 PM) do you guys notice that the entire regions are not following US Dow Jones anymore Yup, may be due to a lot of foregin fund were already existing the Asian regional, (pull back to rescue on their own backyard) US up 146 points last night, look at today's market, almost all regions closed in red except Shanghai... So it is now more or less depends on local and regional participant funds to move the their market. But having said that, it won't decoupling too long as if US economy does run into trouble (recession), asian economy will be hurt also, just matter of degree, won't totally spare from it. Market is far from totally trouble free. Just locally pre-Ge and pre-cny overwrite all the bad news currently. Market and economy still need time to slowly cure itself, not quick fix. Not overly too bullish (people may get too excited about the GE) or bearish about currently market condition is more appropriate approach and don't be too greedy. Historically KLSE tends to do very well in the beginning of year and sometimes did peak at the 1Q. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 11 2008, 09:33 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 11 2008, 09:16 AM) Today a big rally across the board... guys i seriously believe mart will pullback today.. up 20 points, i doubt it wil close above 1500 mark..Surely GE is coming liao... Maybank another big gainer today... |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:02 AM
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today seem no luck for me to sell off the bat@41.75.... queing 1hour already still not sold
how SC determine which stock to transact? is 1st in 1st out, random or etc... order send on yesterday. |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 11 2008, 09:33 AM) guys i seriously believe mart will pullback today.. up 20 points, i doubt it wil close above 1500 mark.. Market has been up too fast recently, any pullback won't be surprise. There is no economical fundamental changes on the economy side, just rally on momemtum to ride on recently.Added on January 11, 2008, 10:07 am QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 11 2008, 10:02 AM) today seem no luck for me to sell off the bat@41.75.... queing 1hour already still not sold It is nothing to do with SC but KLSE. First in first out or the lowest price.how SC determine which stock to transact? is 1st in 1st out, random or etc... order send on yesterday. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 11 2008, 10:07 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:08 AM
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wonder when this bubble will burst?
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Jan 11 2008, 10:13 AM
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When GE is formally announced I guess
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Jan 11 2008, 10:17 AM
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HSI up 200 points....good start
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Jan 11 2008, 10:19 AM
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finaly manage to sell off the bat.... after 3 day queing..
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Jan 11 2008, 10:55 AM
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wow, 1518 point now.
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Jan 11 2008, 11:20 AM
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Historical High!!!
Woohooo wishing all the best in your stocks |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:27 AM
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hey jim where u get those article
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Jan 11 2008, 11:29 AM
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Now is 1520
up 28 points. Will KLCI break 1600? |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:40 AM
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wow... klci is headin higher trendline as 1500 is broken... so keng!!!
btw, can any1 tell me what is d date of announcement for last time GE? |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:47 AM
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better take profit...don be greedy....
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Jan 11 2008, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jan 11 2008, 11:40 AM) wow... klci is headin higher trendline as 1500 is broken... so keng!!! 21st March 2004 was election, parliament was dissolved on the 2nd of March 2004..btw, can any1 tell me what is d date of announcement for last time GE? should be similar, but since the school hols are on the 17th i think, then the parliament should be dissolved earlier lah.. just my 2 cents.. This post has been edited by warbamboo: Jan 11 2008, 11:56 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:54 AM
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There might be some resistance. However some say election coming... so it might perform well
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Jan 11 2008, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 11 2008, 11:48 AM) 21st March 2004 was election, parliament was dissolved on the 2nd of March 2004.. oo.. thanks.. but act, when is d election being announce?should be similar, but since the school hols are on the 17th i think, then the parliament should be dissolved earlier lah.. just my 2 cents.. |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:06 PM
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i think the ci will maintance not less than 1550 before the GE
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Jan 11 2008, 12:08 PM
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though KLCI break record, most stocks have not reached thier highs of last year.
most of the index points are contributed only by few stocks, namely Maybank , Sime, Bursa, commerz. They should give other stocks a chance to run up too. |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:21 PM
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My mom still has MRCB dated 10 years back...
Wondering whether she wanted to sell or not... She lost so much thats she doesnt even consider its there... RM5++ THGROUP left <RM1 RM4++ MRCB left RM3.++ now |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 11 2008, 12:21 PM) My mom still has MRCB dated 10 years back... My gudness! yeah, 10 yrs ago, everything was skyhigh. My friend bought Unisem @ $22/xx but now.... still 1.6+Wondering whether she wanted to sell or not... She lost so much thats she doesnt even consider its there... RM5++ THGROUP left <RM1 RM4++ MRCB left RM3.++ now |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:31 PM
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Hmm, CNY rally already started early this year.
Will it last until CNY ? |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:44 PM
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Hmmm maybe the pre-GE rally starts now hoping that the pre=CNY rally will follow up and then they announced the GE right after.
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Jan 11 2008, 01:47 PM
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Anyone buy anything?
I want to buy, but dont know which is to pick, coz most have gone up. Any good recommendation? |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(_alamak_ @ Jan 11 2008, 01:47 PM) Anyone buy anything? I bought Hapseng few days ago. In my opinion this one has not run yet.I want to buy, but dont know which is to pick, coz most have gone up. Any good recommendation? |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:56 PM
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the trend goes like this...
plantation > O&G > Property > What's next? finance & banking maybe? |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:56 PM) the trend goes like this... maybe next is the kacang putih shares plantation > O&G > Property > What's next? finance & banking maybe? |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:04 PM
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lol xD
anyway, be a little extra caution since the composite has reached 1,500 points, there might be a correction coming up |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:06 PM
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Wah, my crystal ball was right, and looks like hitting 1,600 pts also possible.
But now, sell or buy?? |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jan 11 2008, 12:25 PM) My gudness! yeah, 10 yrs ago, everything was skyhigh. My friend bought Unisem @ $22/xx but now.... still 1.6+ Hey different lah, Unisem got share split (having said that after adjusted for share split, it still way below its 22 high)while MRCB didn't (no or peanut dividend also). Also Unisem reached 22 when dotcom bubble during 1999-2000 which almost every dotcom stock was trading at insane PE value 30x,50x etc 70x. That's why one needs to assess when market or individual stock is too high to sustain itself. If bought too expensive, one will be trapped for long long time, not to mention the interest loss on FD (if put the money into FD rather than buying stocks). That's why I said this is KLCI bull but not entire market bull as a lot of people still being 'trapped'. In a real super bull, almost everyone is making money, not sectorial type. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 11 2008, 02:10 PM |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:10 PM
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[/quote] My advise...quit if have make enough...not advisable to grap some more....many force selling end today or monday morning....wait & see.. |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:52 PM
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Actually if look outside, KOSPI, Nikkei, HS etc, others bourses are having some hard time now.
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Jan 11 2008, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 11 2008, 02:06 PM) Wah, my crystal ball was right, and looks like hitting 1,600 pts also possible. my opinion is hold a bit moreBut now, sell or buy?? |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:01 PM
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market dropping like a bomb!!
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Jan 11 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(hexen7 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:01 PM) market dropping like a bomb!! I believe some profit-taking is good, then investors can reinvest to greater heights. |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:11 PM
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LOL...
Cos my mom already take as her 20K all lost le... so basically she just left it as it is. Seeing MRCB price now, at least got something back lor. |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 11 2008, 03:11 PM) LOL... MRCB is highly political type of stock which sometimes not suit to long term investment, it is more appropriate for short term speculation based on theme playCos my mom already take as her 20K all lost le... so basically she just left it as it is. Seeing MRCB price now, at least got something back lor. |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:13 PM
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Wow... Sinopec and PetroChina both lose heavily these 2 days...
Looks like China price fixing energy really takes its toll on both... Whats strange is that both days they down, CNOOC thrive... |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:14 PM
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cnooc venturing into gas tat y goin up
financial play also in today if u check mostly bank counter up |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:20 PM
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Tide change due to massive profit taking.
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Jan 11 2008, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 11 2008, 03:13 PM) Wow... Sinopec and PetroChina both lose heavily these 2 days... CNOOC is mainly upstream crude oil, while SINOPEC and PETROCHINA are downstream refiners. China is fixing the price of products from the refiners while upstream crude oil is still climbing according to market, so SINOPEC and PETROCHINA stand to lose more unless China increase the price of petrol again.Looks like China price fixing energy really takes its toll on both... Whats strange is that both days they down, CNOOC thrive... |
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Jan 11 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 11 2008, 03:20 PM) Tide change due to massive profit taking. I think it will maintain somewhere around 1500-1550.I think Gov will continue to support KLCI so that it wont drop below 1500. Keeping voter happy so that we will continue to vote for them again... |
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Jan 11 2008, 04:24 PM
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There is another news/rumour that Merrill Lynch will suffer a 'fresh' writedown total of 15billion, that's why regional and DJ futures are plunging.
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Jan 11 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 11 2008, 04:24 PM) There is another news/rumour that Merrill Lynch will suffer a 'fresh' writedown total of 15billion, that's why regional and DJ futures are plunging. Not fresh at all...Initially Wall Street expect Citi to write down 11billion and Merrill 7billion. But now they said it might be more than expected cos new CEO want to get rid of all the writedown and start fresh this year. Thus Goldman raise Citi writedown to 18billion from 11billion and now Merrill got dragged into the same thing. Not surprising but what surprise me is that BOA buying CountryWide seem like a good news to investor cos they thought it must have reach bottom if it attract BOA interest. Too optimistic again IMO... |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:35 PM
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Anybody is interested with KEY ASIC BERHAD (KEY ASIC) IPO?
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Jan 11 2008, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 11 2008, 06:35 PM) Anybody is interested with KEY ASIC BERHAD (KEY ASIC) IPO? Company Name : KEY ASIC BERHAD Stock Name : N/A Date Announced : 11/01/2008 Subject : PUBLIC ISSUE OF 202,000,000 NEW ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.10 EACH ("ISSUE SHARES") COMPRISING: - 10,000,000 ISSUE SHARES AVAILABLE FOR APPLICATION BY THE MALAYSIAN PUBLIC AT THE RETAIL PRICE OF RM0.40 PER SHARE, PAYABLE IN FULL ON APPLICATION; - 16,500,000 ISSUE SHARES AVAILABLE FOR APPLICATION BY OUR ELIGIBLE DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES AND BUSINESS ASSOCIATES AT THE RETAIL PRICE OF RM0.40 PER SHARE, PAYABLE IN FULL ON APPLICATION; AND - 175,500,000 ISSUE SHARES AVAILABLE BY WAY OF PRIVATE PLACEMENT TO INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS AND SELECTED INVESTORS AT THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE TO BE DETERMINED BY WAY OF BOOKBUILDING, PAYABLE IN FULL UPON ALLOCATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR LISTING ON THE MESDAQ MARKET OF BURSA MALAYSIA SECURITIES BERHAD THE RETAIL PRICE WILL BE SUBJECT TO A REFUND IN THE EVENT THAT THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE IS LESS THAN RM0.40 PER SHARE. THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE WILL EQUAL THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE NOT interested on it...I only prefer Main Board IPO. Thanks....Some more technologies very high risk. |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:13 PM
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panasonic88, sooner or later, will be foreign CW. Most probably after GE
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Jan 11 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 11 2008, 07:13 PM) panasonic88, sooner or later, will be foreign CW. Most probably after GE err what do you mean? |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:29 PM
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I mean, ppl take turn to goreng stock of different sector, sooner or later will come to foreign CW.
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Jan 11 2008, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 11 2008, 07:29 PM) I mean, ppl take turn to goreng stock of different sector, sooner or later will come to foreign CW. ahh i see...but i prefer to stay out & wait for the signal to enterare you buying & keeping APPLE & EXMOBIL these few days? |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:44 PM
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Market really crazy today. Everybody make money, ya?
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Jan 11 2008, 08:21 PM
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haven;t reach my target price to buy. Today book at 0.07, didn't manage to get it. Now lower my target price to apple-c1 0.07, exmobil 0.06
Added on January 11, 2008, 8:22 pmonce i got it, i will keep it for few month so that i can concentrate on my work This post has been edited by alivecmh: Jan 11 2008, 08:22 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:23 AM
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DJIA closed the week with:
12,606.30 -246.79 -1.92% |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:02 AM
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So how true was it "not to take up position" last dec? Jan is the time or better still Feb? |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 11 2008, 07:29 PM) I mean, ppl take turn to goreng stock of different sector, sooner or later will come to foreign CW. Those CWs fundamental are tight to their respective mothershare, if mothershares tumble (like yesterday DJ plunge 250 points and Apple dropped 3%), there is no way they can 'goreng' it or they won't choose it to 'goreng' either. If mothershare tumble and you try to 'goreng' its CWs, basically you are looking for trouble or generous enough to give 'free' money to others. You need market condition to be right to have a 'goreng', no one can 'fight' against the market force or direction. Just like recent, they have good excuse to 'goreng' some political stocks like MRCB because of GE, so there are people chasing after which make their 'goreng' much easier. Overseas market most have some hard time recently, until the bearish sentiment clear up, foreign CWs need to wait more time. (But time is one of the biggest enemy of CWs). Just my 2 cents. Don't mean CWs or foreign CWs won't be 'goreng'. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 12 2008, 10:12 AM |
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Jan 12 2008, 11:18 AM
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KLCI shoots past 1,500 points
PETALING JAYA: The KL Composite Index (KLCI) marched to a fresh high of 1,521.6 points yesterday as talk of impending general elections gained momentum and foreign funds flowed strongly into the local bourse. The rising tide of foreign funds also propelled the benchmark to break the critical psychological resistance at 1,500 points after five consecutive record-breaking days. The sharp appreciation of the ringgit against the US dollar pointed to the return of foreign funds to the local bourse. The local currency strengthened to a 10-year high of 3.259 to the dollar yesterday. Profit taking, however, caused the KLCI to pull back from its intra-day peak and finish at 1,516, up 24.6 points, or 1.6%, compared with Wednesday. The bullish sentiment stemmed mainly from domestic factors, given the lingering external uncertainties such as a possible slowdown in the US and world economies. The regional bourses were mostly down yesterday. Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index dipped 364 points, or 1.3%, to 26,867, Singapore's Straits Times Index dropped 23.7 points, or 0.72%, to 3,287, while South Korea's Kospi Index shed 42.5 points, or 2.3%, to 1,1782. "The current buoyant stock market is largely driven by momentum trades on the back of expectation of an early election,'' Citi Investment Research said in its strategy report yesterday. "The biggest risk is an election that is too early, which may bring an early end to that buoyancy." The research unit has raised its 12-month target for the KLCI to 1,570 points from 1,542. The new target is only 3.6% off the current level after yesterday's sharp gains. Citi Investment suggests investors sell cyclical stocks such as construction and property on strength, given that the expected moderation in domestic consumption growth would be the key risks to earnings. JP Morgan executive director and head of broking, Clement Chew, said Bursa Malaysia looked appealing to foreign investors because the country's relatively more diversified and broad-based economy would help mitigate any adverse impact of external shocks. "The market is also under-owned by foreigners," he said. The strengthening ringgit was also a draw for foreign interest. "Investors are always more comfortable with a strengthening currency,'' Chew said. He said the local bourse consolidated in the second half last year and that made Malaysian stocks attractive in terms of growth, dividend yield, price/earnings ratio and return on equity, compared with regional counters. Yesterday's buying interest was not confined to plantation stocks, which had been the star performers in recent weeks. Banking stocks also led yesterday's rally after Citi said it anticipated banks and stockbrokers to be the next area of focus after a strong run in the plantation and telecommunications sectors. "We also expect the oil and gas sector to draw interest," it said. Heavyweights Malayan Banking Bhd gained 30 sen to RM12.80, Bumiputra-Commerce Holdings Bhd surged 70 sen to RM11.70 while AMMB Holdings Bhd was up 36 sen at RM4.04. Sime Darby Bhd and DiGi.Com Bhd also lent support to the KLCI, with Sime Darby putting on 50 sen to RM13.30 and DiGi.Com jumping RM1.40 to RM26. Kurnia Insurans Bhd chief investment officer Pankaj Kumar said that earnings visibility and their growth in the mid-teens were the magnets for investors' money. He does not foresee any drastic correction in the near term. "The market may need to take breather, but the momentum is strong enough to sustain the rally, at least until the Chinese New Year," Pankaj said. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...87&sec=business |
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Jan 12 2008, 11:21 AM
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KLCI uptrend constructive
ALLOW me to recapitulate what was written on April 10, last year. When Bursa Malaysia's principal indicator, the KL Composite Index (KLCI) surged to a 13-year high and marched steadily towards the pervious "super bull" rally intra-day peak of 1,332.04, established on Jan 5, 1994, StarBiz published a commentary titled Within striking distance, with the sub-head KLCI looks poised to beat the all-time high set in 1994. The article was supported by analyses of the historical daily bar chart, including mathematical calculations of the previous cycle of major run-ups, concluding that the key index had an upside of at least 1,520 points, going forward. Apparently, we were the earliest, if not the first to come out with such a forecast and the feedback from our regular readers then was very much divided. Nonetheless, exactly nine months and one day later, we finally saw the benchmark CI breaching the "magical" 1,500-point psychological level with ease to achieve a high of 1,521.56 during intra-day session, also the best ever in Bursa's history before trimming advances to finish at 1,516.22 in the wake of mild profit-taking activity in the afternoon session yesterday. It has been a long road not without a couple of obvious heart-pumping moments, brought about by yen-carry-trade worries and subprime mortgage woes in the US last year, where the market was nearly beaten to a pulp amid waning investor confidence. Fortunately, the local bourse was able to absorb the selling pressure and come out nicely to be where it is today. On record, Bursa had surpassed our estimate upside objective yesterday and it is appropriate we chart the next pathway, as many eager investors certainly want to know where the market is heading before pouring in more of their hard-earned monies into equities. Truly, this is a different species of bull. Unlike the "super bull" and "tech fever" runs in 1993 and 1998 respectively, where the market surged across the board, the rally this time around appears highly selective and rotational, driven by the blue chips initially, followed by thematic plays in the construction and property sectors, then spilt over to oil and gas-related issues and thereafter, the plantation companies. Elsewhere, most of the second and third liners, darling among retail players, are however, still stuck or under-performed but they are improving lately. As we can see, the trend is certainly a friend of the big boys with ample liquidity, snapping up quality stocks before others, perhaps betting Malaysia is in the midst of a long-term structural uptrend following the implementation of a string of economic reforms under the leadership of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. Besides the economic reforms, they too see other powerful catalysts at work, such as the setting up of various economic corridors across the country that would subsequently pave the way for a more sustained growth in the future. Needless to say, they are proven right, as all the measures undertaken by the Government so far helped the stock market. In fact, we believe there may be more restructuring in the pipeline. Whether it is economic or social measures to be implemented by the authorities in the future to face the rapid globalisation, it will surely bode well for equities, going forward. Turning to the chart topic, the landscape on the screen is equally promising. Bursa basically received a massive boost from the huge inflow of foreign funds, supported further by the local institutional buying interest, thus driving the principal index deeper into the uncharted zones. Other than the unexpected sharp drop on the two previous occasions mentioned earlier, any pullbacks along the way due to short-term overbought reason were well absorbed, thanks to smart hands. In other words, the prevailing mid- and long-term trends of the KLCI are constructive. Together with the strong technical signal, particularly from the daily, weekly and monthly moving average convergence/divergence histograms, they suggest that the window for more upswing is wide open but of greater volatility due to persistent worries about the health of the US economy. To the upside, the clearest probable target that we can identify is the 1,760-point level, which is the extended resistance line of the upward channel prior to the "super bull" rally in 1993. If the energetic bulls are able to find their way, they will arrive safely at their next destination, earlier than our forecast of last quarter of this year or first half of 2009. However, investors should take note that technical analysis is about possibility and not certainty, although it is a valuable tool and widely used in stock investing. As for the downside support, while the key index moves higher and higher into the unknown area, it is always best investors apply a trailing exit to avoid being caught in the event of a sudden reversal. For now, it is safe, as everything looks well and rosy. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...68&sec=business |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:43 PM
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That article is just so opposite of what I think of KLCI at the moment.
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Jan 12 2008, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 12 2008, 11:21 AM) For now, it is safe, as everything looks well and rosy. I qouted the last sentence, the word sounds a bit interesting. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...68&sec=business Normally analysts and when people commenting the word should be like, for near future or future, it is looks rosy/bullish. See the difference of this article or the editor word. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 12 2008, 02:08 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2008, 02:06 PM) I qouted the last sentence, the word sounds a bit interesting. This seems to tell us.."Grab anything you can & leave before it crushes you!!" Normally analysts and when people commenting the word should be like, for near future or future, it is looks rosy/bullish. See the difference of this article or the editor word. But it does kind of warn investor to be a bit careful and not to chase the bull too much My 2 cents |
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Jan 13 2008, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2008, 10:10 AM) Those CWs fundamental are tight to their respective mothershare, if mothershares tumble (like yesterday DJ plunge 250 points and Apple dropped 3%), there is no way they can 'goreng' it or they won't choose it to 'goreng' either. If mothershare tumble and you try to 'goreng' its CWs, basically you are looking for trouble or generous enough to give 'free' money to others. well said, i am so agree.You need market condition to be right to have a 'goreng', no one can 'fight' against the market force or direction. Just like recent, they have good excuse to 'goreng' some political stocks like MRCB because of GE, so there are people chasing after which make their 'goreng' much easier. Overseas market most have some hard time recently, until the bearish sentiment clear up, foreign CWs need to wait more time. (But time is one of the biggest enemy of CWs). Just my 2 cents. Don't mean CWs or foreign CWs won't be 'goreng'. sometimes we just have to follow the market trend, current trend is pre-GE rally (however market has been rally for 5 days, so, be a little caution) p/s: ohyah, did anybody noticed a huge volume in RESORTS on last friday? i wonder what is it up to... time to grab some? |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2008, 06:16 PM) p/s: ohyah, did anybody noticed a huge volume in RESORTS on last friday? Yep, something going on ... i wonder what is it up to... time to grab some? |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:17 AM
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Airasia quick fall to 1.51, now coming back up.
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Jan 14 2008, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(ante5k @ Jan 14 2008, 09:17 AM) Airasia quick fall to 1.51, now coming back up. i brought airasia@1.58 last friday last weekend he admit that he make a wrong decision on fuel price where he predict will go down instate of going up. |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:53 AM
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Jus out of the topics !!
My fren told me Airasia plane crashed before,but is been covered up!! Not sure is related to the down turn or not! |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:53 AM) Jus out of the topics !! wah...yest i just came back fr Kuching thru Air Asia wor......hehehheheheMy fren told me Airasia plane crashed before,but is been covered up!! Not sure is related to the down turn or not! in the verge of selling all my stocks lo...broker fees really RM40 for OSK! Too much a burden for small player like me....waiting for corrections after CNY to jump in on dividen counters.... |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(jojoe @ Jan 14 2008, 09:51 AM) i brought airasia@1.58 last friday found the reason they selling d... foreign funds moving out they are expecting profits will be lowered. last weekend he admit that he make a wrong decision on fuel price where he predict will go down instate of going up. |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM) wah...yest i just came back fr Kuching thru Air Asia wor......hehehhehehe is it applicable to oncall trading or online trading?in the verge of selling all my stocks lo...broker fees really RM40 for OSK! Too much a burden for small player like me....waiting for corrections after CNY to jump in on dividen counters.... so far, most of trading company apply RM28 for online trading. Well, for my case RHBInvest. |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 14 2008, 10:33 AM) is it applicable to oncall trading or online trading? errr... mine is oncall gua..i call my remisier one.... RM40...just got my bill fr OSK! so far, most of trading company apply RM28 for online trading. Well, for my case RHBInvest. |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:59 AM
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Tenaga Nasional Bhd Declares Final Dividend Payable on January 3, Tenaga Nasional Bhd declared final gross dividend of 16.3 sen per ordinary share less income tax of 26% for the financial year ended 31 August 2007. This dividend will be paid on January 3, 2008. EX-date is on December 13, 2007 and Entitlement date is on December 17, 2007.
Guys, Any of you guys received this dividend yet? I have not received it la!!! |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:23 AM
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HK-CW dropping badly. SINOPEC-CW affected badly after China froze petrol prices.
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Jan 14 2008, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:59 AM) Tenaga Nasional Bhd Declares Final Dividend Payable on January 3, Tenaga Nasional Bhd declared final gross dividend of 16.3 sen per ordinary share less income tax of 26% for the financial year ended 31 August 2007. This dividend will be paid on January 3, 2008. EX-date is on December 13, 2007 and Entitlement date is on December 17, 2007. You'll have to wait for at least 2 weeks from the 3rd of Jan, Neo..that's what happens to my dividends in that casela, comes only two weeks after the payment date.Guys, Any of you guys received this dividend yet? I have not received it la!!! bt you can confirm this with your remisier or the bank your are using for online trades. |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2008, 10:51 AM) errr... mine is oncall gua..i call my remisier one.... RM40...just got my bill fr OSK! whoever came up with this minimum of RM40 per transaction is downright dumb and stu**d.. fark him |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 14 2008, 11:53 AM) You'll have to wait for at least 2 weeks from the 3rd of Jan, Neo..that's what happens to my dividends in that casela, comes only two weeks after the payment date. ok thanks,bt you can confirm this with your remisier or the bank your are using for online trades. i will check with CIMB I TRADE |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 14 2008, 11:23 AM) HK-CW dropping badly. SINOPEC-CW affected badly after China froze petrol prices. sinopec-c1 is expiring soon.. never touch it now... |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:04 PM
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market is down by 11 points..has the bull ended?
 no more greens..Added on January 14, 2008, 12:06 pm QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 14 2008, 12:00 PM) ok thanks, no prob mate..i will check with CIMB I TRADE i use cimb too, just call them up and they'll let you know the exact date. This post has been edited by warbamboo: Jan 14 2008, 12:06 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 14 2008, 12:04 PM) market is down by 11 points..has the bull ended? Don't worry, there never was a bull in the first place, just some boosting of the index. Have faith in the pre-GE rally, it will not be affected and KLCI will be pushed up again, although I couldn't say the same for other shares that aren't heavy weights of KLCI. no more greens.. |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:34 PM
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yappari na..
after few days going bull.. then the day hav come to do correction..wait until this weekend..it will through some correction.. |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:35 PM
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There's probably one more push before GE imo
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Jan 14 2008, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(hexen7 @ Jan 14 2008, 12:35 PM) There's probably one more push before GE imo Yes, I am hoping for that.  |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:59 PM
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this is the reply i get from CIMB
Thank you for writing. Dividends will be credited to your trust account approximately 14 days after payment date. In this case, you may check your Report-> Client Summary or Monthly Statement after January 17, 2008 |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:59 PM) this is the reply i get from CIMB have you got your DIALOG dividends as well?Thank you for writing. Dividends will be credited to your trust account approximately 14 days after payment date. In this case, you may check your Report-> Client Summary or Monthly Statement after January 17, 2008 |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:08 PM
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Dow futures weakening leh
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Jan 14 2008, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 14 2008, 02:08 PM) Dow futures weakening leh This week, most of companies in S&P500 will announce their financial result.Result are quite bad for financial type companies 15 Jan - Citibank 16 Jan - JP Morgan 17 Jan - Merril Lynch If result is lower than expectation, then be prepare for DJ DOOM... |
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Jan 14 2008, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(warbamboo @ Jan 14 2008, 11:53 AM) You'll have to wait for at least 2 weeks from the 3rd of Jan, Neo..that's what happens to my dividends in that casela, comes only two weeks after the payment date. Not necessary, it depends on company and your postman. I sometimes received 2-3 days after the payment data. But it depends on the company. bt you can confirm this with your remisier or the bank your are using for online trades. Neo, if don't receive in 2 weeks or more time, you should call the company registrar to check or your broking house (if using nominee account) |
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Jan 14 2008, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:59 AM) Tenaga Nasional Bhd Declares Final Dividend Payable on January 3, Tenaga Nasional Bhd declared final gross dividend of 16.3 sen per ordinary share less income tax of 26% for the financial year ended 31 August 2007. This dividend will be paid on January 3, 2008. EX-date is on December 13, 2007 and Entitlement date is on December 17, 2007. me me i not yet receive also Guys, Any of you guys received this dividend yet? I have not received it la!!! |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:09 PM
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its chillies everywhere... |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:13 PM
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Added on January 14, 2008, 4:23 pm QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2008, 04:13 PM) recession is coming.........beware beware....... actually...it's the fear of recession! heheheAdded on January 14, 2008, 4:24 pmpana....has u sold ur UEMBLDR n SAPCRES??? I sold all of mine liao! This post has been edited by kinwawa: Jan 14 2008, 04:24 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:48 PM
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I think tonite drop all caused by Citi Group.
Citi Writedown Could Be As Much As 14b From 11b, then Goldman said 18b now they are estimating 24b... |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 14 2008, 04:13 PM) Added on January 14, 2008, 4:23 pm actually...it's the fear of recession! hehehe Added on January 14, 2008, 4:24 pmpana....has u sold ur UEMBLDR n SAPCRES??? I sold all of mine liao! so i sold all my useless shares (UEMBLDR is one of them) currently i am keeping SAPCRES & DIALOG, for long term |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:57 PM
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One extraordinary stock today is DPS-WA. It was listed today at a price of RM0.005. Today's high for this little thing was 0.165, current price at 0.150. Those that has the rights for this warrant should be smiling happily. Too bad I don't own any
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Jan 14 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2008, 03:28 PM) Not necessary, it depends on company and your postman. I sometimes received 2-3 days after the payment data. But it depends on the company. yup Neo, you should check on it if you don't get it in 2 weeks time, it should be credited la..Neo, if don't receive in 2 weeks or more time, you should call the company registrar to check or your broking house (if using nominee account) sometimes bonus share issue takes one month for me to get, at first i panicked as well, and then got used to it after calling them up and confirming. basically, just make sure you call them if you dont get it within 2 weeks and let them know, if not they might say why didnt you contact them earlier. but don't worryla bro, you should get it. |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jan 14 2008, 04:57 PM) One extraordinary stock today is DPS-WA. It was listed today at a price of RM0.005. Today's high for this little thing was 0.165, current price at 0.150. Those that has the rights for this warrant should be smiling happily. Too bad I don't own any Erm..there is one case about these kind of warrantsLast time i encounter one warrant where its actual price for warrants during listing is not 0.005cents. But more than that coz u need to add costs for warrant rights. For ex: warrant rights -WR is 0.30cents + another cost to subscribe one warrant -WA So, u paid more than 0.005cent to own 1 warrant. Just my 2 cents. Im not sure why during listing, it is less than costs (warrant rights + convertible costs)? Is it applicable to all warrant rights convertible to warrant? |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jan 14 2008, 04:57 PM) One extraordinary stock today is DPS-WA. It was listed today at a price of RM0.005. Today's high for this little thing was 0.165, current price at 0.150. Those that has the rights for this warrant should be smiling happily. Too bad I don't own any Jordy & dreams_achiever,Those warrant are free one (detachable warrant). It is given for free at 2 right issue subscribed. The right issue was issued at 0.50 which you need to buy 2 right issue to get 1 free warrant. The mothershare is at 0.44, so you lose 12 cents on the rights issue but gain back 15 cents, so net gain 3 cents only This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 14 2008, 05:18 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2008, 05:17 PM) Jordy & dreams_achiever, Yeah, I noticed the rights issue as well.Those warrant are free one (detachable warrant). It is given for free at 2 right issue subscribed. The right issue was issued at 0.50 which you need to buy 2 right issue to get 1 free warrant. The mothershare is at 0.44, so you lose 12 cents on the rights issue but gain back 15 cents, so net gain 3 cents only They might stand to profit much more in tomorrow's market, if there's any more chasing of DPS-WA then. That is why those owners with high holdings in its mother share can smile already |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:29 PM
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All the futures suddenly in green... like magic only..
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Jan 14 2008, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2008, 04:53 PM) kinwawa, i smell a ribut coming our way eh me still holding on to uembldrs so i sold all my useless shares (UEMBLDR is one of them) currently i am keeping SAPCRES & DIALOG, for long term i was targeting at 1.43-1.45 range. wat price u guys sold it for?? |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 14 2008, 05:30 PM) eh me still holding on to uembldrs i sold my UEMBLDR@1.36 and SAPCRES@1.86 ....still keeping dialog for long term though.....i was targeting at 1.43-1.45 range. wat price u guys sold it for?? |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2008, 05:17 PM) Jordy & dreams_achiever, Those warrant are free one (detachable warrant). It is given for free at 2 right issue subscribed. The right issue was issued at 0.50 which you need to buy 2 right issue to get 1 free warrant. The mothershare is at 0.44, so you lose 12 cents on the rights issue but gain back 15 cents, so net gain 3 cents only QUOTE DPS-RENOUNCEABLE RIGHTS ISSUE OF 132,000,000 NEW ORDINARY SHARES OF RM0.50 EACH ("RIGHTS SHARES") IN DPS ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) RIGHTS SHARE FOR EVERY ONE (1) EXISTING ORDINARY SHARE WITH 66,000,000 FREE DETACHABLE WARRANTS ("WARRANTS") ON THE BASIS OF ONE (1) WARRANT FOR EVERY TWO (2) RIGHTS SHARE AT AN ISSUE PRICE OF RM0.50 PER RIGHTS SHARE ("RIGHTS ISSUE") Actually, im not so sure about above statement.Is it means that if i own 2 ordinary share then i will entitled 2 right share and 1 warrant automatically? Then these 2 right share will convertible into 2 ordinary share. Means in the end, i will have 4 ordinary share + 1 warrant? Hope can get more clarification from above statement. Thanks in advance. |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(dh007014 @ Jan 14 2008, 04:48 PM) I think tonite drop all caused by Citi Group. Oh-no Citi Writedown Could Be As Much As 14b From 11b, then Goldman said 18b now they are estimating 24b... |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:26 PM
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HSI-C2 at 0.075 only. Don;t miss it when it hit 0.06.
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Jan 14 2008, 08:58 PM
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found something interesting here
flash back to Aug 2007  looking at the price, plantation & finance counters surge the most! |
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 Jan 14 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 14 2008, 08:26 PM) HSI-C2 at 0.075 only. Don;t miss it when it hit 0.06. are u confident ? |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:20 PM
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anyone know where i can find BJtoto dividend info for previous years?
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Jan 14 2008, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(hexen7 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:20 PM) anyone know where i can find BJtoto dividend info for previous years? for year 2007Second Interim 8¢ First Interim 10¢ Fourth Interim 7.5¢ Third Interim 12.5¢ Second Interim 12.5¢ total for year 2007 : 63 sens This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 14 2008, 09:38 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:37 PM) for year 2007 http://www.berjaya.com/toto_financial.htm#Second Interim 8¢ First Interim 10¢ Fourth Interim 7.5¢ Third Interim 12.5¢ Second Interim 12.5¢ total for year 2007 : 63 sens |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:57 PM
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tks pana and sky
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Jan 14 2008, 10:01 PM
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wow, futures goes up +107.00
investors are having rate-cut speculation |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 14 2008, 05:34 PM) Actually, im not so sure about above statement. Yes. But you needs to pay for those 2 right issue shares which cost 0.50, while 1 warrant is given out free (to sweeten the deal, otherwise nobody want to buy those right issue)Is it means that if i own 2 ordinary share then i will entitled 2 right share and 1 warrant automatically? Then these 2 right share will convertible into 2 ordinary share. Means in the end, i will have 4 ordinary share + 1 warrant? Hope can get more clarification from above statement. Thanks in advance. QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:01 PM) wow, futures goes up +107.00 It turns up because of IBM as IBM is one of the heaviest component in DJ. It reports a premilinary of result which beat all the market estimate by a signficant margin. (actually partly due to USD falling, as IBM is a international business company so revenue generated outside of US become more due to devaluation of USD).investors are having rate-cut speculation This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 14 2008, 10:07 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:07 PM
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but beware on wednesday coz citibank will announce the 4Q "Much Higher than expected" writedown which i believe, will cause the US market in heavy sell down.
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Jan 14 2008, 10:10 PM
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right right
QUOTE BM, the world's biggest computer-services provider, rose on results that were boosted by international growth. Apple Inc. climbed after Bank of America Corp. increased its earnings forecast for the maker of the iPod media player. Barrick Gold Corp. and Newmont Mining Corp. advanced as gold reached a record. QUOTE IBM gained $8.08 to $105.75. Sales rose to $28.9 billion in the fourth quarter, the Armonk, New York-based company said today in a statement. That topped the $27.7 billion average of analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Profit from continuing operations climbed to $2.80 a share, also beating projections. Apple added $4.11 to $176.80. Bank of America said it expects the company to earn $5.04 a share in 2008 and $1.60 a share in the first quarter. That compares to earlier estimates of $4.87 and $1.52 a share, respectively. let's hope for a greenie day on tomorrow~! awww i have sold my rubbish share too early, oh well, no regrets as i got something even better |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(hexen7 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:57 PM) tks pana and sky Please take note Btoto borrowed quite a lot of money from Year 2006. Previously none.This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jan 14 2008, 11:07 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:32 PM
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DJIA opens the day with:
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Jan 14 2008, 11:55 PM
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Anyone knows any other bank is US gonna announce their 4Q financial result recently (Except citibank)? pls share with me. thx
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Jan 15 2008, 01:46 AM
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Anyone knows any easy way to trade SGX?
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Jan 15 2008, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 14 2008, 11:55 PM) Anyone knows any other bank is US gonna announce their 4Q financial result recently (Except citibank)? pls share with me. thx Well, if I remember correctly, there would be around 180+ companies announcing their quarterly result this month.Those familiar faces would be Citigroup, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, UBS, AXA, etc. These are the only ones I know that would be releasing their quarter result this month in the financial sector. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:04 AM
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DJIA closed the day with:
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Jan 15 2008, 09:13 AM
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Jan 15 2008, 09:19 AM
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Early in the morning, KLCI up 17points...
Bullish market awaiting GE... |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:23 AM
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several new CW that i noticed today...
- CNOOC-C4 - GENTING-CJ - WILMAR-C1 <--- WILMAR is singapore shares, right? |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:25 AM
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Wilmar the owner of PPB I think...
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Jan 15 2008, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 15 2008, 09:25 AM) Wilmar the owner of PPB I think... yes, i read about that, too. |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:37 AM
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Wilmar and CNOOC in red...
Bye bye CW... |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:43 AM
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reminding myself once again:
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Jan 15 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2008, 09:43 AM) reminding myself once again: hi, why u said tak nak cw.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « can u pls advise to me.............  |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2008, 09:23 AM) several new CW that i noticed today... 1 more warrant that u miss out: BURSA-CJ- CNOOC-C4 - GENTING-CJ - WILMAR-C1 <--- WILMAR is singapore shares, right? Today it's like hot cake. cherroy: Thanks for explaination. |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(peng123 @ Jan 15 2008, 09:47 AM) hi, why u said tak nak cw. you can trycan u pls advise to me............. no pain, no gain QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 15 2008, 09:47 AM) 1 more warrant that u miss out: BURSA-CJ oh yeah, BURSA-CJToday it's like hot cake. cherroy: Thanks for explaination. all because of the mothershare is up up, otherwise CJ will be dead, either |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:06 PM
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DJIA up a lot (thanks to BMI) last night
but look at our regional market, all go down thankful that i dump all my hkcw yesterday, today price is even lower! a friendly reminder to whoever that still holding SINOPEC-C1, time to let go, the price keep on sinking and the maturity date is just 2 weeks away don't follow the footstep of BOC-C1 or HSBC-C1 (real life story, saw ppl queue at 0.05 to sell, also no buyer wan to take up!) |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:06 PM) DJIA up a lot (thanks to BMI) last night yah, totally agreed.but look at our regional market, all go down thankful that i dump all my hkcw yesterday, today price is even lower! a friendly reminder to whoever that still holding SINOPEC-C1, time to let go, the price keep on sinking and the maturity date is just 2 weeks away don't follow the footstep of BOC-C1 or HSBC-C1 (real life story, saw ppl queue at 0.05 to sell, also no buyer wan to take up!) Dun chase those warrants which is far far far out of money. else ended like case mentioned above. Luckily currently, i free of all stocks now.. waiting for right moment to go in.. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 15 2008, 12:17 PM) yah, totally agreed. wah ..regional all RED! i wish i could join u soon ....just sit back n relax....n wait for the right time to jump in again...probably after CNY.....or GE.....Dun chase those warrants which is far far far out of money. else ended like case mentioned above. Luckily currently, i free of all stocks now.. waiting for right moment to go in.. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 15 2008, 12:21 PM) wah ..regional all RED! i wish i could join u soon ....just sit back n relax....n wait for the right time to jump in again...probably after CNY.....or GE..... i think in next 2 days will be good sign after citibank announced theirs results.JP Morgan not badly affected. Merrill so-so not bad as Citibank. This thursday Bernanke will give speech. So i think will be good for market if he announce something really good news to all of us. |
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Jan 15 2008, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 15 2008, 12:23 PM) i think in next 2 days will be good sign after citibank announced theirs results. So-so???JP Morgan not badly affected. Merrill so-so not bad as Citibank. This thursday Bernanke will give speech. So i think will be good for market if he announce something really good news to all of us. I think you mistaken. Merrill initially estimate 7b writedown, now estimate around 12-15b. Citi initially estimate 11b writedown, now estimate almost 24b. |
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Jan 15 2008, 02:07 PM
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ugly numbers...
KLCI probably will take that as "opportunity" for a correction...afterall, we have been rally for so many days |
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Jan 15 2008, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 15 2008, 02:02 PM) So-so??? ya...i think nothing will be great at this time.....since the subprime issue surfaced....US has not really recovered....recession is getting nearer.....probably when Fed cut rates at the end of the month...there will be temporary relief..I think you mistaken. Merrill initially estimate 7b writedown, now estimate around 12-15b. Citi initially estimate 11b writedown, now estimate almost 24b. |
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Jan 15 2008, 02:31 PM
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Hard to say.
First is dunno how much they will cut. If the market expect too much like in Dec, then the DJIA rally like hell only to be disappointed by the size of the cut. |
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Jan 15 2008, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(dh007014 @ Jan 15 2008, 02:31 PM) Hard to say. Well, everything is hard to predict. Just my 2 cents only.First is dunno how much they will cut. If the market expect too much like in Dec, then the DJIA rally like hell only to be disappointed by the size of the cut. To me, play shares is like playing with risks. high risks high gains. hehe... Added on January 15, 2008, 2:49 pm QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 15 2008, 02:46 PM) Well, everything is hard to predict. Just my 2 cents only. Btw when HSI touch 25.9K++, it will quickly rebound to 26K. Seem clearly support line at 26K.To me, play shares is like playing with risks. high risks high gains. hehe... This post has been edited by dreams_achiever: Jan 15 2008, 02:49 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 15 2008, 02:11 PM) ya...i think nothing will be great at this time.....since the subprime issue surfaced....US has not really recovered....recession is getting nearer.....probably when Fed cut rates at the end of the month...there will be temporary relief.. Currently scenario is a little bit complicated, it is not subprime alone. If it is only subprime, then only banking stocks will be affected, stock market overall won't be too bad. But now it is much more complicated. Subprime lead to credit crunch --> prompt Fed to cut rate, inject liquidity --> USD plunging --> Commodities price shoot up --> inflation sky rocket --> Fed shouldn't cut rate --> affect consumers spending power --> housing continue the slump --> affect consumers --> Fed should cut rate --> put more pressure down of USD. Fed is in the 'box' now, cut or don't cut, both also got impact. Don't mean overly pesimistic about current market condition, just current situation is a bit tricky, not as simple as cutting rate will solve the problem. If it is controlled properly with approprate action over the time, then market can stage a run up but it things turns out bad, then market will have some hard time. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 15 2008, 03:19 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 03:52 PM
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hard time ahead... |
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Jan 15 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 15 2008, 02:02 PM) So-so??? yah, u r right.I think you mistaken. Merrill initially estimate 7b writedown, now estimate around 12-15b. Citi initially estimate 11b writedown, now estimate almost 24b. Merrill and Citibank is biggest financial banks having sub prime issue / write down QUOTE On Friday, The New York Times reported that Merrill would take a $15 billion writedown. Recent reports have estimated that Citi could writedown as much as $24 billion during the quarter. Seem will have rocky and bumpy road ahead in next few days. Please put on ur seat belt tightly. Dun get loose..http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/14/news/compa...sion=2008011411 |
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Also need to wear crash tesh helmet too
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Jan 15 2008, 04:57 PM
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dun forget your bullets
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Jan 15 2008, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2008, 04:57 PM) dun forget your bullets I'm ready to shoot anytime! but the target must first stand still! hehehhee |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 15 2008, 04:47 PM) Also need to wear crash tesh helmet too yes...yes... what time financial report will be annouce tonight? |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Jan 15 2008, 05:20 PM) yes...yes... wah, u plan to stay late and watch Citibank to announce its financial result? what time financial report will be annouce tonight? i plan to sleep early tonight. no eye to see DJ plunge 90 degree once Citibank announced it. Better take good sleep tonight and wake up in early morning to see final results after DJ is closed. Tomolo will be hard battle and shopping spree for all of us . hehe... edited: oh ya, before i forgot.. us:C Citigroup Inc Q4 2007 -1.00(2007 Q4) 1.03(2006 Q4) It will announce before US market open. Most likely before 10.30pm local time. This post has been edited by dreams_achiever: Jan 15 2008, 05:37 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 15 2008, 05:33 PM) wah, u plan to stay late and watch Citibank to announce its financial result? no lar... if the announcement around 11 - 12am maybe stick around to watch it... i plan to sleep early tonight. no eye to see DJ plunge 90 degree once Citibank announced it. Better take good sleep tonight and wake up in early morning to see final results after DJ is closed. Tomolo will be hard battle and shopping spree for all of us . hehe... |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:38 PM
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oh tonight 10.30pm yah
i dare not to see the bloomberg future jor... |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:48 PM
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waaahhhh!! i miss the boat to sell off uembldrs!!!
see la ...still greedy till the end. now going to crash back to sub <<1.3 .. sigh... or shud i buy more |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 15 2008, 05:48 PM) waaahhhh!! i miss the boat to sell off uembldrs!!! u are not missing the boat but actually trapped in the boat see la ...still greedy till the end. now going to crash back to sub <<1.3 .. sigh... or shud i buy more me also trapped but in diff boat |
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Jan 15 2008, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 15 2008, 05:48 PM) waaahhhh!! i miss the boat to sell off uembldrs!!! another uembldr's share owner oso trapped inside. should sell it when it is RM1.4.see la ...still greedy till the end. now going to crash back to sub <<1.3 .. sigh... or shud i buy more cost price RM1.55...sigh. (luckily only have 2lots after sold half on couple months ago) still long way to go before can sell off. Since GE exact date hasnt announced yet, maybe will have second pre-GE rally again? Hope at tat time, can sell it off. |
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Jan 15 2008, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 15 2008, 05:38 PM) oh tonight 10.30pm yah Get ready for meltdown! Haha just j/k. i dare not to see the bloomberg future jor... Lucky I'm out of everything now. |
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Jan 15 2008, 06:30 PM
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I'm just wonder, if everyone noe the result of Citigroup, then how come DJI still up yesterday? Just curious....
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Jan 15 2008, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Jenn V @ Jan 15 2008, 06:30 PM) I'm just wonder, if everyone noe the result of Citigroup, then how come DJI still up yesterday? Just curious.... Wall Street Advances Sharply After IBM Earnings Forecast Lifts Hopes for Earnings Seasonhttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080114/wall_street.html Yup. Everyone is desperate for good news |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:42 PM
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Citi Group earning out liao...
Goldman prediction is so accurate... 18b write-down... FTSE already -60points... |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Jan 15 2008, 05:53 PM) u are not missing the boat but actually trapped in the boat u are not alone..... i also in the boat but is floating boat.... hehehe me also trapped but in diff boat today uembldr up to 1.4 miss the boat to sell it.... cause my office internet down have to hold few more days.... anyone no wat is the fair price for hscei-c1??? now hscei-c1 at 15,000 level!!! my friend wanna jump to the boat.. hscei-c1@0.045.... i afraid become submarine.... any comment. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:51 PM
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lol i sold UEMBLDR at 1.38 yesterday
goodbye and never buy you anymore |
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Jan 15 2008, 08:03 PM
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HSI-C1-C4 are at very attractive price already especially hsi-c2. Just bought 3000lots of hsi-c2 at 0.06. This one gonna hold it for 2 months and I think can at least earn double.
Added on January 15, 2008, 8:07 pmHow come DJIA +137.00 ?? Citibank badly writedown seem like no effect ? Or the pain has already over ? http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/ This post has been edited by alivecmh: Jan 15 2008, 08:07 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 15 2008, 07:42 PM) Citi Group earning out liao... Citi Cuts Dividend After Posting 4Q LossGoldman prediction is so accurate... 18b write-down... FTSE already -60points... Citi Cuts Dividend After Writing Down $18.1B and Getting $12.5B in Capital From Investors URL: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080115/earns_citigroup.html |
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Jan 15 2008, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2008, 08:03 PM) HSI-C1-C4 are at very attractive price already especially hsi-c2. Just bought 3000lots of hsi-c2 at 0.06. This one gonna hold it for 2 months and I think can at least earn double. good luck to you on HSI-C2 Added on January 15, 2008, 8:07 pmHow come DJIA +137.00 ?? Citibank badly writedown seem like no effect ? Or the pain has already over ? http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/ erm bloomberg here shows -41.00 http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures.html |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:01 PM
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Citi Gets $12.5B Infusion, Posts Loss
Citi Gets $12.5B in Cash, Cuts Dividend As Hefty Writedowns Lead to 4Q Loss http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080115/citigroup.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stocks Tilt Lower; Citigroup in Focus Stocks Set to Open Lower As Earnings, Data Roll In; Citigroup Has Hefty Write-Down http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080115/wall_street.html |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2008, 08:03 PM) HSI-C1-C4 are at very attractive price already especially hsi-c2. Just bought 3000lots of hsi-c2 at 0.06. This one gonna hold it for 2 months and I think can at least earn double. I believe CNN futures for DJIA is not correct. Since morning, it has been showing +137 unchanged.Added on January 15, 2008, 8:07 pmHow come DJIA +137.00 ?? Citibank badly writedown seem like no effect ? Or the pain has already over ? http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/ Better refer to bloomberg futures indicator. Good..i also aiming on HSI counter. But recently, China government did imposed very strict control on HS. For HSI to climb up to above 29K-30K is quite hard compared to end of last year. Hard to play with HK-warrants nowadays... |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:35 PM
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exactly, the HK-warrants are having too short lifespan
by the time market is recovering, the maturity date is near and some are even stucked and trapped at high price how to play? |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:46 PM
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for those HK CW that trading at volume and the expiry date is coming, whoever buy it gonna eat banana already, but those with another few months more to expiry and trading at high volume, I think there is still room for you to buy when it is cheap.
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Jan 15 2008, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 15 2008, 09:46 PM) for those HK CW that trading at volume and the expiry date is coming, whoever buy it gonna eat banana already, but those with another few months more to expiry and trading at high volume, I think there is still room for you to buy when it is cheap. Yup, correct. There is still plenty of growth for those warrants that currently have few more months to go before expired.UPDATE: All Europe markets in RED after Citibank financial 4th quarter announcement. DJ Futures -100. Big chillies for awaiting for us tomolo...  |
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Jan 15 2008, 10:10 PM
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ahh i was just about to update the DJ Futures
DJIA probably gonna closed in negative 200 plus points? |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:31 PM
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Man, you dont often seen FTSE drop more than 2%.
I guess those who bought CW will die horribly tomorrow... I wonder how our government will support KLCI in events like this. The whole world is collapsing on KLCI. How will they support it?? Update: I think FTSE is being oversold... down almost 3% with 2 hrs to go... This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 15 2008, 11:48 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 07:08 AM
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DJIA closed the day with:
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Jan 16 2008, 09:09 AM
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KLCI drop 21 points liao...
Global share market crashing... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:09 AM) KLCI drop 21 points liao... as expected....tat's y...get ur bullets ready!Global share market crashing... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:09 AM) KLCI drop 21 points liao... All wiped out leh!!! profits made during rally.. losing more.. Global share market crashing... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:16 AM
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By the rate its going, today might b the rare day u see KLCI drop 2%.
Anyway, I think when gov official wake up at 10am, mayb we will see some buying support. |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:16 AM) By the rate its going, today might b the rare day u see KLCI drop 2%. Hong Kong will open at least -500 pts... could go -1000 in early trade... Anyway, I think when gov official wake up at 10am, mayb we will see some buying support. |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:31 AM
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wah big drop today!
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Jan 16 2008, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 16 2008, 09:31 AM) wah big drop today! whooooaaaaa!!! more exciting that riding roller coaster.. alivecmh: ur HSI-C2 drop so much. u plan to average it? now at 0.05cents from previous 0.065 Now, its good time to collect some cheap and good stocks. shopping spree is begin ! |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:35 AM
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BURSA movement weird...
Going up slowly from lowest today... Someone supporting it??? Added on January 16, 2008, 9:36 am QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 09:34 AM) whooooaaaaa!!! more exciting that riding roller coaster.. Wah... u dare aa? alivecmh: ur HSI-C2 drop so much. u plan to average it? now at 0.05cents from previous 0.065 Now, its good time to collect some cheap and good stocks. shopping spree is begin ! Tonite Merrrill financial result wor... sure big drop again... Added on January 16, 2008, 9:37 amDo you think KLCI hit the bottom for today liao? No movement now... but couldnt spot any good bargains... This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 16 2008, 09:37 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:42 AM
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see friday how, then decide
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Jan 16 2008, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:35 AM) Do you think KLCI hit the bottom for today liao? It seems the most of the counters that drop are those that has been pushed up by the recent rally. So most of other counters still not as badly affected.No movement now... but couldnt spot any good bargains... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:50 AM
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KLCI started moving down again...
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Jan 16 2008, 09:52 AM
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Anyone know how Merril Lynch's report gonna be?? Is it gonna be as bad as Citigroup??
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Jan 16 2008, 09:54 AM
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Yes, very bad...
Will be the same as Citi, as in double the forecast... Forecast 7b, now they said the realistic figure around 12-15b... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:54 AM) Yes, very bad... tomolo will be another bargain day......dun rush first....Will be the same as Citi, as in double the forecast... Forecast 7b, now they said the realistic figure around 12-15b... This post has been edited by kinwawa: Jan 16 2008, 09:58 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:59 AM
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Intel also report after the market is closed, it reported both revenue and profit below market concensus. Intel shares plunge more than 10% after the market closed (for after hour trade). Probably will see Intel shares drop from 22 to below 20 for tonight opening.
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Jan 16 2008, 10:01 AM
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Intel earning is up, dont be mistaken.
Forecast slowing demand in Q1. |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:03 AM
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Hang Seng open with -747
I smell panic selling soon, just like last year. This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Jan 16 2008, 10:03 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 16 2008, 09:35 AM) BURSA movement weird... If im not mistaken, I believe Merrill will announce its financial result on Thursday (tomolo) lor..not tonite. Going up slowly from lowest today... Someone supporting it??? Added on January 16, 2008, 9:36 am Wah... u dare aa? Tonite Merrrill financial result wor... sure big drop again... Added on January 16, 2008, 9:37 amDo you think KLCI hit the bottom for today liao? No movement now... but couldnt spot any good bargains... Tonite, JP Morgan will announce its financial. Expected JP Morgan will announce slightly down than previous year. Not worst compare to Merrill and Citibank. So, tonight possibly DJ wont plunge again. Actually, IMHO there is 2 bad news and 1 possibly good new on this Thursday. Bad news: 1)Merrill Lynch financial announcement expected as bad. 2)CPI index data will be out as well as other reports. (very important data/edited: if its data not good). Good new: 1)FED Bernanke will give speech. If he announce economic stimulus package or cut rate news, market will rally. So, maybe will buy some to keep until next Monday. This post has been edited by dreams_achiever: Jan 16 2008, 10:09 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 10:06 AM) If im not mistaken, I believe Merrill will announce its financial result on Thursday (tomolo) lor..not tonite. Dow futures recovering leh... -110 to -66.. hope can recover further...Tonite, JP Morgan will announce its financial. Expected JP Morgan will announce slightly down than previous year. Not worst compare to Merrill and Citibank. So, tonight possibly DJ wont plunge again. Actually, IMHO there is 2 bad news and 1 possibly good new on this Thursday. Bad news: 1)Merrill Lynch financial announcement expected as bad. 2)CPI index data will be out as well as other reports. (very important data/edited: if its data not good). Good new: 1)FED Bernanke will give speech. If he announce economic stimulus package or cut rate news, market will rally. So, maybe will buy some to keep until next Monday. |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:25 AM
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today is eat red chilli day
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Jan 16 2008, 10:40 AM
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i dun see any bargain buy yet
atleast yet reach my desire price wait for one more day... |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 10:40 AM) i dun see any bargain buy yet I have my eye on atleast yet reach my desire price wait for one more day... Parkson LionInd LionDiv |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(hexen7 @ Jan 16 2008, 10:48 AM) I have my eye on wow hey, we are watching at the same thing Parkson LionInd LionDiv i am waiting for LIONDIV to drop below 1.80 safe price to buy is 1.70 and above |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:25 AM
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HK cws suffering.. my hands are itchy to enter.... but scary man...
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Jan 16 2008, 11:28 AM
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hkcw...i dare not touch..
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Jan 16 2008, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 11:25 AM) HK cws suffering.. my hands are itchy to enter.... but scary man... wahh just noticed our mart down 38 points... aiyoooooooooooooooooooooo Added on January 16, 2008, 11:32 am QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 11:28 AM) hkcw...i dare not touch.. better dont touch leh.. may die of heart attack if this continues.. This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 16 2008, 11:32 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:32 AM
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KLCI 1500 points benchmark, so fragile, sigh
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Jan 16 2008, 11:40 AM
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KLCI index down by 2.67%
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Jan 16 2008, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 11:32 AM) KLCI 1500 points benchmark, so fragile, sigh It wasn't achieve on fundamentals in the first place pana, so it's obvious it wouldn't hold water when the tide is coming. |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 16 2008, 11:42 AM) It wasn't achieve on fundamentals in the first place pana, so it's obvious it wouldn't hold water when the tide is coming. true!!! whole world suffering.. we are not immune to such tide.. |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:47 AM
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-40!!!! wah.........luckily sold most of my counters last week (goreng counters)
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Jan 16 2008, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 16 2008, 11:47 AM) -40!!!! wah.........luckily sold most of my counters last week (goreng counters) i sold hsi-c1 at 78 cents last week leh... now 48.5 cents only... |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 11:51 AM) i sold hsi-c1 at 78 cents last week leh... good for u! wanna buy somemore??? hehehhee now 48.5 cents only... |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 16 2008, 11:54 AM) good for u! wanna buy somemore??? hehehhee dare not to try for now... dangerous... |
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Jan 16 2008, 11:57 AM
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walao...today is single biggest KLCI drop that i ever encountered for half years trading experience.
wipe out all the rally last week. 1500 CI index seem hard to sustainable. |
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Jan 16 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 11:57 AM) walao...today is single biggest KLCI drop that i ever encountered for half years trading experience. Wah you never see lasts years 100 point drop meh wipe out all the rally last week. 1500 CI index seem hard to sustainable. That one my shit also like want to come out sial hahaha |
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Jan 16 2008, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 16 2008, 12:10 PM) Wah you never see lasts years 100 point drop meh february 27, 2007... who may forget that.... That one my shit also like want to come out sial hahaha |
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Jan 16 2008, 12:36 PM
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Phew, what an exciting 1st half of KLSE. -44 points or -2.96% of the KLCI which now stands at 1461.
I wonder if the 2nd half will rebound. Most likely will follow the other Asian exchanges, pre-GE rally fellas probably shat in their pants already so will most likely stay out of the 2nd half. Heh! And I thought KLCI will reach 1550. This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Jan 16 2008, 12:38 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 12:53 PM
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i doubt there will be a rebound in the afternoon
more bloods coming our way |
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Jan 16 2008, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 15 2008, 06:24 PM) Get ready for meltdown! Haha just j/k. OMG, its true - meltdown today. Lucky I'm out of everything now. Wonder if can recover in afternoon? |
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Jan 16 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 12:12 PM) february 27, 2007... who may forget that.... true and i lost terribly too on that time. |
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Jan 16 2008, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 16 2008, 12:10 PM) Wah you never see lasts years 100 point drop meh no wor..at that time, havent started playing with shares. so, din care about it lor.. That one my shit also like want to come out sial hahahastarted end of July 2007 mah.. wow, miss out those "dragon-ride". more geng chau than roller coaster ride. haha |
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Jan 16 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 16 2008, 01:29 PM) OMG, its true - meltdown today. tomolo shd be the same bloody day....better to monitor tomolo before making any decisions...really scary.... Wonder if can recover in afternoon? |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 16 2008, 01:34 PM) tomolo shd be the same bloody day....better to monitor tomolo before making any decisions...really scary.... Now its time to apply "BUY ON FEAR, SELL ON GREED".. |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:37 PM
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Down 51 points... damn its getting worst..
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 02:37 PM) Down 51 points... damn its getting worst.. bye bye hk cw............ |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(peng123 @ Jan 16 2008, 02:48 PM) bye bye hk cw............ u have so much ah?? R u gung ho on HK Cw?? |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 02:50 PM) u have so much ah?? R u gung ho on HK Cw?? no.......terrible klci -56terrible hsi-c1 ................. last week, bursa gave all happy, song, syok, cannot sleep and buy more..... today, give all deaddddddddddddddddddd. (like sime) tipuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu punya klci stay awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tipuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu This post has been edited by peng123: Jan 16 2008, 02:56 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(peng123 @ Jan 16 2008, 02:51 PM) no.......terrible klci -56 how much you lost there?terrible hsi-c1 ................. last week, bursa gave all happy, song, syok, cannot sleep and buy more..... today, give all deaddddddddddddddddddd. (like sime) tipuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu punya klci stay awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tipuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 03:00 PM) how much you lost there? paper loss rm 15000..................  |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:05 PM
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HSI-C1 has retraced a lot since last few market days.. almost halved frm last thursday's closing... surely a lot of damage
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Jan 16 2008, 03:07 PM
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not onyl HSI-C1, i'd say most of the hkcw
ghosh i must be damn lucky to jump off the hkcw boat before it bring me down to its grave! |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 03:05 PM) HSI-C1 has retraced a lot since last few market days.. almost halved frm last thursday's closing... surely a lot of damage ya..............maybe i will buy some on thurday evening.............to cut loss.............but anyway, who got cash in hand, can buy la........... in future , sure gain .........if no much, little also can.... hsi down 5% This post has been edited by peng123: Jan 16 2008, 03:09 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:08 PM
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Jan 16 2008, 03:22 PM
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LPI now 12.3 wor...got dividen also drop so much ar!
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Jan 16 2008, 03:31 PM
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i see some rebounding... but should be a short one
Added on January 16, 2008, 3:37 pmplantation counters are coming down lagi one more round correction, should be good time to enter! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 16 2008, 03:37 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:38 PM
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too much of pessimism on our market now.. last wek was hooh haah.. gonna go 1500 points and bla bla bla.. This post has been edited by verbatim: Jan 16 2008, 03:40 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 03:38 PM) too much of pessimism on our market now.. last wek was hooh haah.. gonna go 15000 points and bla bla bla.. |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(peng123 @ Jan 16 2008, 03:02 PM) paper loss rm 15000.................. RM15k!!????? Siao aaa u?? What did you bought??? |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 03:39 PM) 15000 points hehehehe... added extra '0' by accident... |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 03:39 PM) 15000 points HSI 15,000? That's tempting then. Just joking. Btw, the reddish of DJ and Nasdaq is largely because of Intel reported dissapointing result after the market close. Tonight, got JPMorgan reporting also CPI numbers. |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 16 2008, 03:44 PM) HSI 15,000? wats expected from JP morgan?? will their result hit the mart again?? That's tempting then. Just joking. Btw, the reddish of DJ and Nasdaq is largely because of Intel reported dissapointing result after the market close. Tonight, got JPMorgan reporting also CPI numbers. |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:48 PM
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Lower earning lor... what else...
If you read, Citi Group still got 35b asset assosiated with subprime... |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 03:47 PM) wats expected from JP morgan?? will their result hit the mart again?? yah i am curious to know, too.futures : -104.00 (is it hinting something?) |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:57 PM
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panasonic didnt buy gamuda?
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Jan 16 2008, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 16 2008, 03:47 PM) wats expected from JP morgan?? will their result hit the mart again?? Nobody can guess it correctly now. Yesterday, people (most analysts) expected Citigroup to report a loss of USD 4-5 billions, it came out 9 billions. It is hard to make estimate on it now. Wait & see.Added on January 16, 2008, 3:59 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 03:49 PM) yah i am curious to know, too. Intel is one of the DJ 30, that's why it is plunging, as tonight when Intel open 99% will go down.futures : -104.00 (is it hinting something?) This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 16 2008, 03:59 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:03 PM
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wah....HSI....almost -1.4K!!!
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Jan 16 2008, 04:03 PM
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Today's market still ok la....everyone expected....Nt high volume also....no panic sell~~ Sien~~
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Jan 16 2008, 04:05 PM
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anyone buying anything??
CNOOC is somewhat attractive. Parkson would be attractive if it drop to RM8. Satang at all time low... I wonder if its going bust or something. Too bad didnt grab Equine when 2.2x, now up le. Added on January 16, 2008, 4:06 pm QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 16 2008, 04:03 PM) wah....HSI....almost -1.4K!!! It rebounded a bit just before closing.This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 16 2008, 04:06 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:12 PM
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Equine very hard to say one oh....
It can simply up n down....hehe |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(feralee @ Jan 16 2008, 03:57 PM) panasonic didnt buy gamuda? no, the price is not low enough dropping wo |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:15 PM) no, the price is not low enough how low u wanna go? |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:28 PM
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what is historically the worst closing for KLCI? how many point down? i think the worst last February right? down 40 over point?
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Jan 16 2008, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:28 PM) what is historically the worst closing for KLCI? how many point down? i think the worst last February right? down 40 over point? i think should be drop 100+ more last Feb 2007 as mentioned by other LYN.i haven experienced b4. so far, -50++ is the most biggest drop in single day to me. |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:38 PM
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Are you sure?
From what I read, it started with 101points in the red before rebouding to -40++ when closed. So todays drop is one of the biggest this century. http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...a0d350-698d123d |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:41 PM
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HSplant...time to masuk?
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Jan 16 2008, 04:46 PM
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-57.xx now....
We shall remember today... |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(feralee @ Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM) how low u wanna go? GAMUDA yah, i missed the chance when it dropped to 3.8xdont think it will go that low, tho will only look at it if it drop below 4.50 |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:01 PM
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KLCI ended 1454.61 -51.10 for today...
At one point almost drop 4%... This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 16 2008, 05:02 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:06 PM
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Is there gonna be another global recession? Looking at the stocks today, certainly seems like one is coming...
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Jan 16 2008, 05:18 PM
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my hand so itchy...wanna buy some but in the end.....hai...fear when ppl fear
wait for tomolo first...really scary! if tomolo another -50 i dunno how ppl will react! |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:50 PM) GAMUDA yah, i missed the chance when it dropped to 3.8x Market is unpredictable sometimes, you don't know how it will be, previously when I bought Genting at 6.50 (already sold), at that time, people also said 'fat chance' and said not possible.dont think it will go that low, tho will only look at it if it drop below 4.50 |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 16 2008, 05:19 PM) Market is unpredictable sometimes, you don't know how it will be, previously when I bought Genting at 6.50 (already sold), at that time, people also said 'fat chance' and said not possible. cherroy, what do you mean by "fat chance"? |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:24 PM) cherroy, what do you mean by "fat chance"? Not possibleBecome a English teacher now, (just joking) http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/fat%20chance This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 16 2008, 05:27 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:32 PM
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lol i tot that is some direct translate word from cantonese
ahhhhh nothing is impossible in stock market! |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:43 PM
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fat chance, I thought bigger chance also =/
Luckily I cut loss early morning or else.. cha dou mou dak cheng. This post has been edited by Vv.SoViEt.vV: Jan 16 2008, 05:44 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:32 PM) lol i tot that is some direct translate word from cantonese Btw, want to ask is it next Monday is public holiday? DJ will open or close?ahhhhh nothing is impossible in stock market! Saw website that said next monday 21st Jan is "Martin Luther" Day so DJ will closed. Is it true? This post has been edited by dreams_achiever: Jan 16 2008, 05:45 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 05:44 PM) Btw, want to ask is it next Monday is public holiday? DJ will open or close? "I have a dream"Saw website that said next monday 21st Jan is "Martin Luther" Day so DJ will closed. Is it true? of another bull run coming... |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 05:44 PM) Btw, want to ask is it next Monday is public holiday? DJ will open or close? not sure about US, but next wednesday we will have a public holiday, i suppose KLSE will close, too Saw website that said next monday 21st Jan is "Martin Luther" Day so DJ will closed. Is it true? |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 08:23 PM) not sure about US, but next wednesday we will have a public holiday, i suppose KLSE will close, too i din see any public holiday next weekend wor..what is that public holiday? Thaipusam? If it is, i think it is for state public holiday not applied to all. |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:47 PM
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moarrrr warrants are coming!
CODE PETROCH-C7 BOC-C2 TENAGA-CI GENTING-CK i sweat .... |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jan 16 2008, 08:46 PM) i din see any public holiday next weekend wor.. err there is one, i am pretty surewhat is that public holiday? Thaipusam? If it is, i think it is for state public holiday not applied to all. as my office (under selangor) will announce one day public holiday on that day p/s: couldn't recall what celebration is that... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:36 PM
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Next wednesday is Thaipusam and only applicable for some states observing Thaipusam as holiday. No holiday for KL so the Bursa is business as usual but next Friday (1-2-2008), Bursa will be closed due to Federal Territory day
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Jan 16 2008, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 08:48 PM) err there is one, i am pretty sure Thaipusam holiday does not apply to KL wor...as my office (under selangor) will announce one day public holiday on that day p/s: couldn't recall what celebration is that... |
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Jan 16 2008, 09:48 PM
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moarrrr warrants are coming!!, But not worth your attention.
HSI-c2 Hit lowest at 0.05 and rebound to 0.06. The price is so attractive now. For (long) term investor, this is a good pick. i predict it will go down to 0.04 on friday. Added on January 16, 2008, 10:18 pmhttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080116/apple_ahead_of_the_bell.html?.v=1, probably will boost US market on that day. Just like how Intel boost US market that day. This post has been edited by alivecmh: Jan 16 2008, 10:18 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:33 PM
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Wow....FTSE drop almost -117 points but suddenly now climb back to -7.6 points only!
SOmething good happening there??? But when DJI open, might go back down again.. |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 16 2008, 10:33 PM) Wow....FTSE drop almost -117 points but suddenly now climb back to -7.6 points only! today, us government reports are GOOD........... so rebound.............SOmething good happening there??? But when DJI open, might go back down again.. hope 2moro GREENNNNNNNNNNNN |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:46 PM
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Is a good news in US... JP MORGAN profit down by 34% but is still profit not like citibank losing money. Their subprime mortgage write down is less than the estimation.
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Jan 16 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 16 2008, 08:23 PM) not sure about US, but next wednesday we will have a public holiday, i suppose KLSE will close, too Thaipusam is only holiday for Penang and Selangor, KLSE is in KL, so no holiday.QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 16 2008, 09:48 PM) moarrrr warrants are coming!!, But not worth your attention. Don't look at price alone to determine it is 'cheap'. Also it is not long term, it (HSI-C2) will expire on May 2008, about 4 months old only, not that 'long term'.HSI-c2 Hit lowest at 0.05 and rebound to 0.06. The price is so attractive now. For (long) term investor, this is a good pick. i predict it will go down to 0.04 on friday. Added on January 16, 2008, 10:18 pmhttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080116/apple_ahead_of_the_bell.html?.v=1, probably will boost US market on that day. Just like how Intel boost US market that day. FYI, HSI-C1 exercise price is 30,870, today HSI closed at 24,450. So basically it worth nothing at current situation. Don't mean it won't have upside, judge your own. |
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Jan 17 2008, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 16 2008, 10:33 PM) Wow....FTSE drop almost -117 points but suddenly now climb back to -7.6 points only! Its minus 82.xx when closed.SOmething good happening there??? But when DJI open, might go back down again.. Right now, its really your bet on which to follows. If you look across the board, almost the whole world is looking doom but US somehow managed to spark life into its share market. How long will they remain optismistic??? Mayb tomorrow??? Merrill will smack them right in their face... Added on January 17, 2008, 1:30 am QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 16 2008, 05:19 PM) Market is unpredictable sometimes, you don't know how it will be, previously when I bought Genting at 6.50 (already sold), at that time, people also said 'fat chance' and said not possible. LOL...Haiih... sometimes its not destined to be yours la... I bought IOICORP @ 7.15 and sold @ 6.90. If I keep until today after 50+ points drop, I still steady le. Dont look back... This post has been edited by kapitan: Jan 17 2008, 01:30 AM |
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Jan 17 2008, 01:38 AM
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BTW,
Why should Fed cut rates??? I thought they should let the strong survive and the weak perished. Just like our country back in 97. |
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Jan 17 2008, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 17 2008, 01:38 AM) BTW, I believe it's to stimulate spending and reduce costs of loans to do business and buy stuff. But an interest rate cut will devalue the dollar which would spark inflation at the same time.Why should Fed cut rates??? I thought they should let the strong survive and the weak perished. Just like our country back in 97. |
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Jan 17 2008, 07:38 AM
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DJIA closed the day with:
At 4:05PM ET: 12,466.16 34.95 (0.28%) |
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Jan 17 2008, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE An analyst said the sharp drop at yesterday's closing, the single biggest drop in about a year, was due to a combination of steep decline on Wall Street overnight and talks that Malaysia's general elections might be postponed beyond the first quarter of this year. Seems there is some possibilities that GE will be postponed. Maybe because of Lingam case that causing bad images to Msia government. That's why Badawi wish to postpone until case is end and ppl forget about it.No wonder yesterday KLCI drop so much. Unable to sustain it. Wonder how KLCI will perform today? |
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Jan 17 2008, 08:16 AM
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US concerns dampen KLCI
PETALING JAYA: Stock markets in Asian slumped yesterday as investors backed away from risky investments such as equities amid growing concerns the US economy is moving into a recession. With the United States still a key market for many export-oriented Asian economies, including Malaysia, a downturn in the world's largest economy would derail worldwide growth, analysts said. "Asian markets will fall in line with the United States. There is no decoupling of the financial markets,'' Hwang-DBS Investment Management chief investment officer David Ng told Bloomberg yesterday. Sharp triple-digit losses on Wall Street overnight set the bearish tone for Asian market trading yesterday. "Weak US retail sales figures and disappointing results from Citigroup Inc exacerbated investors' pessimistic mood,'' OSK Investment Bank wrote in its morning note to clients yesterday. And, by the end of trading across Asia yesterday, that pessimism was apparent. The KL Composite Index (KLCI) plunged 52.05 points, or 3.5%, to close at 1,453.66. The benchmark index has fallen for three consecutive days from a record high. Only four of the 100 KLCI component stocks ended higher, with heavyweights Sime Darby Bhd, Bumiputra-Commerce Holdings Bhd, Telekom Malaysia Bhd and Tenaga Nasional Bhd all posting double-digit losses. On the whole, declining stocks outnumbered risers by 824 to 100 on volume of 1.17 billion shares worth RM2.84bil. Elsewhere, the Hong Kong bourse was the worst hit yesterday, with the Hang Seng Index plunging 5.4% to 24,450 points. It was the index's biggest single-day drop since Sept 11, 2001. In Singapore, the Straits Times Industrial index fell 3% to 3,058 points. The two indices have plummeted more than 20% from their respective peaks reached in October last year. Japan's Nikkei 225 dived 3.4% to 13,504 points, while South Korea's main KOSPI index retreated 2.4% to 1,704 points, and the Australian S&P ASX 200 index fell 2.5% to 5,809 points. China's Shanghai and Shenzhen bourses, which were largely driven by domestic investors, lost more than 2.4% each yesterday. The turmoil in the US subprime mortgage market had already curbed investors' appetite for risky bets and growing worries that the world's largest economy was slipping into recession would cap the upside potential for stocks in the near term, analysts said. At yesterday's close, most Asian stock markets were down for the year, except for Bursa (+0.6%) and the Shanghai and Shenzhen bourses. Meanwhile, crude oil futures in New York fell to just above US$90 a barrel yesterday from US$99 at the start of the year. Gold was traded at below US$890 an ounce, down from a high of US$914 on Monday. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...03&sec=business |
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Jan 17 2008, 08:56 AM
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I personally think this correction will reach 1350-1370 level before it bounces back (based on the last 2 major corrections and the support line). Of course there will be some pullbacks in between.
However if it drops below 1350, then it's really a doomsday... This post has been edited by okk: Jan 17 2008, 09:08 AM |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jan 16 2008, 09:36 PM) Next wednesday is Thaipusam and only applicable for some states observing Thaipusam as holiday. No holiday for KL so the Bursa is business as usual but next Friday (1-2-2008), Bursa will be closed due to Federal Territory day roger that, thanks for the info!ahh this morning, market isn't that bad right |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM
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wahhh...maybulk dipping again.
anyone got insider news why dip so much... 4.10 d.....anyone grabbing some? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM
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KLCI went from +10 to neutral in a matter of minutes...
Whats going on... all selling again??? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM) wahhh...maybulk dipping again. BDI (Baltic Dry Index) is dipping, MAYBULK also follow to dipanyone got insider news why dip so much... 4.10 d.....anyone grabbing some? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(cky80 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM) wahhh...maybulk dipping again. BDI dropped another 5.74%anyone got insider news why dip so much... 4.10 d.....anyone grabbing some? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM) KLCI went from +10 to neutral in a matter of minutes... ppl who buy at low price yesterday is making money and sell for profits, probably?Whats going on... all selling again??? i personally think that market will go down today, dun rush to buy. |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM
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Dude, where to see BDI price? Is Maybulk attractive to buy now? Last year they paid div on April mth. What say you all?
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Jan 17 2008, 09:34 AM
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No rush here.
Im just waiting S&P drop again today after Merrill announcement. Then we will get to the 10% correction point. |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM) Dude, where to see BDI price? Is Maybulk attractive to buy now? Last year they paid div on April mth. What say you all? can see from here http://investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htmQUOTE(kapitan @ Jan 17 2008, 09:34 AM) No rush here. Merrill announcement? which means, tonight?Im just waiting S&P drop again today after Merrill announcement. Then we will get to the 10% correction point. |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:39 AM
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got the IPO for signature international. but dunno how is the market tomolo |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM) Dude, where to see BDI price? Is Maybulk attractive to buy now? Last year they paid div on April mth. What say you all? World Stock IndicesThe link above got BDI as well major stock exchanges across the world. BDI graphs This link is normally updated a day later has BDI graphs against some other indexes. Sigh.... my OSK seems to be down. This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Jan 17 2008, 09:41 AM |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(feralee @ Jan 17 2008, 09:39 AM) got the IPO for signature international. lol you are the IPO king! always see you got new IPO but dunno how is the market tomolo |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM) Dude, where to see BDI price? Is Maybulk attractive to buy now? Last year they paid div on April mth. What say you all? i think wait until end of month the correction completed them will get some more maybulk if Merilly lost 10billion sure will help |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:45 AM
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End of month a bit too late le.
Wall Street nowadays rally almost a week before rate cut announcement. |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:41 AM) lol you are the IPO king! always see you got new IPO where gotthis only i got the last time all didnt get also |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 17 2008, 09:40 AM) World Stock Indices me too..RHBInvest oso down.The link above got BDI as well major stock exchanges across the world. BDI graphs This link is normally updated a day later has BDI graphs against some other indexes. Sigh.... my OSK seems to be down. Cant do trading.. Do everyone else experiencing server down? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:52 AM
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somehow look like its cyclical from this chart:
 well..if u have holding power i think its good to go in...just not sure when to time |
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