i dun trust equine leh. very ez to fall into the trap
i like uembldr! cause im still losing money on that..hehe
kinstel slowing creeping up everyday... i wonder if will kena goreng. steel counters no movement lately rite?
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Jan 8 2008, 05:42 PM
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wow so long never see trading value hitting 3billion.
i dun trust equine leh. very ez to fall into the trap i like uembldr! cause im still losing money on that..hehe kinstel slowing creeping up everyday... i wonder if will kena goreng. steel counters no movement lately rite? |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:42 AM
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oh oh...coming down again....my uembldr!!!
not sure what to pick...today is actually a gud day to buy later 11:30am the big fish will come... |
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Jan 9 2008, 09:59 AM
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Jan 14 2008, 05:30 PM
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Jan 15 2008, 05:48 PM
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waaahhhh!! i miss the boat to sell off uembldrs!!!
see la ...still greedy till the end. now going to crash back to sub <<1.3 .. sigh... or shud i buy more |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:25 AM
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wahhh...maybulk dipping again.
anyone got insider news why dip so much... 4.10 d.....anyone grabbing some? |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:52 AM
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somehow look like its cyclical from this chart:
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Jan 17 2008, 03:50 PM
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actually i was wondering, not sure if anyone can answer.
why do the banks write down everything as total loss? if u write down means all gone right, nothing can be recovered. in reality, is this the case? do banks really lose that much, or they just declare only in paper. so in the future, if they do get back the loans, then its added bonus for them. i was wondering why the gov or auditors allow for such things. total loss on paper, actually exagerrate things. like everyone is not paying their housing loans in america. |
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Jan 17 2008, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 17 2008, 04:18 PM) It is just like you bought a share at Rm10.00 then it drops to Rm9.00. So in fair accouting standard, it should be 'writedown' in asset value your hold, you need to report as loss Rm1.00 as it only value at Rm9.00. hmm..i was thinking the banks are taking this opportunity to exagurate their losses. take a one time hit, play with the books abit and throw in watever they can. cause really...the amount is so huge. billions and billions of bad dept. how many millions of americans dont pay back the loans.If your customers don't pay their loan, then you classified it as bad loan already. In mortgages industry, even the house is used as collateral to take the loan, but what make matter worst is that housing price also plunging at the moment (due to previous bubble). You loan out 100K based on 100K value of house last time, now customers default it, but now housing price value is 90K, then banks only can 'book' it as 90k in value. So even sell the house, banks still won't able to recoup back its initial money lend out. haha..thanks for answering. i shall dig deeper to understand why the values are so huge. |
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Jan 18 2008, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 18 2008, 09:59 AM) aik...what happened to the maybulk plan... damnit la...reaching my original buying price at 3.88 d. i will BUY MAYBULK when it goes below my ori buying price!!!!! Dry bulk index is cyclical i tell u! This post has been edited by cky80: Jan 18 2008, 10:24 AM |
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Jan 18 2008, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 18 2008, 10:28 AM) i am dilemma, too good ma, got some form of predictibililty. so far the DBI is always trending upwards if seen along longer period of time.the dropping of MAYBULK is like never end i don't sense any "buy" signal, as today buy might be cheap, but tomorrow might be cheaper from 5.50 > 4.50 > now below 4 already i choose to play safe, i buy something atleast i can see the future and not affected by any outsider circumstances (eg. we have to look at BDI in the case of MAYBULK) i prefer this kind of circumstances instead of other 'political', subprime..etc hahaha...nvm la. who knows drop to 2+ then i regret like hell. sigh... |
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Jan 21 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 21 2008, 12:19 PM) Yeah, poor Maybulk ^^. Anyway OSK issued a research paper on Maybulk today. Explaining why the BDI is falling and expecting a rebound. hey hey...do u have a link or can copy n paste?i google a bit, the BDI comment i read was its just a downturn in Q1, which is typical... i plan on getting more maybulk later it is bound to rebound in the long term....i can wait and collect the dividend i hope in the meantime |
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Jan 22 2008, 10:46 AM
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im goin for some dividend counters.
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Jan 22 2008, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 22 2008, 04:27 PM) No remisier won't like a bear market, it just mean lesser businesses for them now and in the future (who like to trade on a bear market?) maybe one of his client commit suicide d. makan all his deposit as a remisier pay off his shares. kekekek. Those buying in this kind of market generally are long term investors that seldom trading one, buy and keep for long long times, remisiers will out of business if too many this kind of people. Also, remisier will face more risk in 'crash' market that their customers didn't pay up. If you are in this industry, you will know there are a handful of people didn't pay up on time or pay up their contra loss, remisiers need to bite the bullet themselves. |
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Jan 22 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jan 22 2008, 05:09 PM) 5.8% dividend for EPF i always wondered why EPF interest is so damn low. is there any external audits on their investments...KUALA LUMPUR: The Government announced a dividend of 5.8% for the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) for last year, up from 5.15% in 2006. "Investment in foreign assets achieved good returns and I hope EPF will continue to take new initiatives for the country's development," said Finance Minister II Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop. The EPF, the sixth biggest public fund manager in Asia, has RM312bil in assets and has been able to play an important role in the country's development, he added. EPF has in its portfolio US$1.8bil (RM5.76bil) worth of assets in other countries as a result of its recent diversification effort, he noted. to me EPF is used to bail out bad investments or support side projects. they probably make more than 10% returns on investments, but give us 5%+. the rest are swindled. |
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Jan 24 2008, 10:31 AM
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yeah MAYBANK SUX A$$!!...
imagine if u have to make a few thousand rm transaction immediately and their phone line always busy. WTF man. |
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Jan 30 2008, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:08 AM) just wondering are you guys ready to buy some plantation shares? oooo pana....got an eye on Sime or just the purist plantation ones only knowing some plantation counters price are still high up, eg. IOICORP, BKAWAN but there are some which already dropped quite significantly, eg. BSTEAD, CEPAT, and today's top loser - THPLANT i am just hoping to keep one or two plantation shares in my portfolio |
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Jan 31 2008, 12:40 PM
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to all maybulk holders
DJ MARKET TALK: CS Cuts MayBulk To Neutral,Cuts Target To MYR3.55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0357 GMT [Dow Jones] STOCK CALL: Credit Suisse cuts Malaysian Bulk Carriers (5077.KU), or MayBulk, to Neutral from Outperform; cuts target to MYR3.55 from MYR6.20. Downgrade follows house cutting 2008 Baltic Drybulk Index (BDI) target 20% to 8,000, reducing 2009 BDI assumption 30% to 7,000; results in 19% downgrade to MayBulk's FY08 blended average bulk charter rate to under US$41,000/day; expects 2009 daily bulk charter rate of just under US$36,000/day. Lowers FY08 net profit forecast 19% to MYR494 million, cuts FY09 net profit forecast 29% to MYR445 million. Says every US$1,000 cut in average daily bulk charter rate leads to estimated 2% decline in net profit. Says despite BDI downgrade, still Overweight on the drybulk sector; prefers China COSCO (1919.HK), STX Pan Ocean (V33.SG). Shares up 0.6% at MYR3.60. (LES) Contact us in Kuala Lumpur. 603 2692 5254; MarketTalk@dowjones.com (END) Dow Jones Newswires January 30, 2008 22:57 ET (03:57 GMT) Copyright © 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. DBI WILL GO UP IN THE FUTURE!!! |
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wat a waste!!!! DJIA UP 200pts and KLSE on holiday!!! KNN!!!
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wah u all no need to sleep ar? or DJIA keeping u all awake
id go for option A !!! bursa has gone down a bit.... hows the dividend btw for both.. ? |
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