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 Resign without giving sufficient notice ..., Really need to pay back ?

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post Dec 30 2007, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 30 2007, 04:44 PM)
RM 1.8 K can consider low la... (About same salary wit h my previous job sad.gif )
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i seen few of my colleagues leave...
they either work for 2 months or pay the rest if they not complete the 2 months.
Just that guy very dare to leave like that lor & my comp no sue him.

Have ur fren told ur new company about that? And will they pay for him?
If not then can try ask ur fren told ur boss lor... then leave.
(i cross my finger and hope they won't sue him).
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post Dec 30 2007, 05:51 PM

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post Dec 30 2007, 05:57 PM

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In some company, you can AWOL for certain period of time, let's says two days, then immediately terminated.

Read the contract, different company have different employment contract, we know shit here unless if you could scan the contract and post em here, which I think is confidential.
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(soulmate @ Dec 30 2007, 05:51 PM)
i think you friend is you..
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Sad to said, I am still unemployed... Looking for job !!

I fulfill the 2 months notice period b4 resign !! smile.gif

I wan to ask bcause this CASE very likely happen to me or anyone also....
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QUOTE(Mr Ez @ Dec 30 2007, 05:57 PM)
In some company, you can AWOL for certain period of time, let's says two days, then immediately terminated.

Read the contract, different company have different employment contract, we know shit here unless if you could scan the contract and post em here, which I think is confidential.
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Contract is 2 MONTHS la !! So, the title is Whetner the company will SUE or not ? (For most of the companies)
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:06 PM

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Any MOU signed? Any appointment letter and stuff?
http://www.cycfoundation.org/concepts/AppointmentLetter

This post has been edited by Muhammad Nur Hanief: Dec 30 2007, 06:08 PM
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Muhammad Nur Hanief @ Dec 30 2007, 06:06 PM)
Any MOU signed? Any appointment letter and stuff?
http://www.cycfoundation.org/concepts/AppointmentLetter
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I wonder u guys got use common sense or not ??
If emplo y full time, SURE got employemnet letter to protet both employer & employees la blink.gif

I M ASKING WILL the CO. SUE HIM ? IF Bring to the court, Whats the consequences ??

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post Dec 30 2007, 06:14 PM

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NO

they won't sue
they will only ask for compensation
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:32 PM

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do like my friend do
because want to instant quit from the company
he do something stupid
until kena fired
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post Dec 30 2007, 07:00 PM

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yes he will need to pay. he knows what is stated in his employment letter don't he? better talk to his supervisors. in most cases, they will let you go especially if you're a new staff without making a lot of hassles... either that or they will make things difficult, witheld his last salary and etc. and they can sue if they want to, but mostly wouldn't for an employee of that salary, but it will definitely leave a bad track record.
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post Dec 30 2007, 07:11 PM

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I had a fren who leave the company without 2 months notice which is a mz in the contract. After some scold or discuss, they deduct the last month salary then let her go. So means work free for the company for 1 month.

Company usually won't sue you. But they able to track on your next employer via epf. Then they might inform the next employer and might cause some problem.
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post Dec 30 2007, 09:42 PM

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consequences is definitely not good. try to discuss and negotiate with the employer.

lucky enough, everything is settled and no action brought forward. worst, a bad record is left for the employee, case brought forward to some employer protection act. it depends how far the company want to bring it on, they have the right since you have agreed to what is written black and white.

to be fair, think that you are the employer / on the employer side, if every of the employee is handling big projects, (multi-thousands projects), and they leave whenever they like, who are going to foot the lost, to take-over their project etc.
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post Dec 30 2007, 10:11 PM

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haha..last time I work in Parkson ..part-time cashier nia..i didn't go to work 3 days and then 4th day I come back give resign letter ..LOLZ..lucky didn't kena sue and minus salary ..
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post Dec 30 2007, 10:23 PM

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Since you sign the contract, and the clause state clearly is 2 month notice, you can't run away. Forget appointment letter or other document, contract has the ultimate authority.

The consequence is, they would send you a lawyer letter, stating that you breach the contract and will be penalise accordingly if you don't pay back within the period stated in the letter. And if you avoid the letter, the punishment is more severe than the 2 months salary.

In addition, there is no court case, because you already lost in the event of any argument. My advise is to talk to your supervisor, and see if this problem can be resolve in better way, which is to dedect only the last month salary.

Unless he has employer-employee relationship problem, otherwise I don't see why he can't discuss in peace with his supervisor. I'm sure his supervisor is more than willing to listen to him and allow a fine young graduate to seek better opportunities.


Added on December 30, 2007, 10:26 pm
QUOTE(anzen600 @ Dec 30 2007, 10:11 PM)
haha..last time I work in Parkson ..part-time cashier nia..i didn't go to work 3 days and then 4th day I come back give resign letter ..LOLZ..lucky didn't kena sue and minus salary ..
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In department store, it's different. You never sign contract, besides you didn't receive any salary. Unless you stole money, they would just leave it.

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post Dec 30 2007, 10:40 PM

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Try to talk to your employer on allowing your friend to give short notice. I do not think your employer can be so rigid and unreasonable to follow to the letter of your employment contract even though they do have the right to do so. After all you are joining a govt department. I believe most employers would forego that right unless their monthly sales turnover isn't anywhere near that amount your friend have to repay. What is RM2,700 if they are earning RM270,000 per month?

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post Dec 30 2007, 10:47 PM

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ive tendered in my resignation letter before giving 1 day in lieu notice TWICE. Have to pay back. My friend, talked to her boss and she managed to get away with it without paying,.
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post Dec 31 2007, 08:38 AM

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Yes,by law -have to pay. But by M'isa style you may get 1 or 2 warning letter then nothing happen!

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post Dec 31 2007, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Timer @ Dec 31 2007, 08:38 AM)
Yes,by law -have to pay. But by M'isa style you may get 1 or 2 warning letter then nothing happen!
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Thats what I think !! But, I still u guys to confirm smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Timer @ Dec 31 2007, 08:38 AM)
Yes,by law -have to pay. But by M'isa style you may get 1 or 2 warning letter then nothing happen!
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Wait until you become rich or the old company knows you have enough money, then they will sue you.
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QUOTE(flamer @ Dec 31 2007, 09:27 PM)
Wait until you become rich or the old company knows you have enough money, then they will sue you.
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true, its like a time bomb waiting to exploded the moment you became rich.

There are more cons that pro in resigning without giving sufficient notice:
1) Time bomb to empty ya pocket when you became rich
2) There are few company you are unable to join because people knows your past action

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