windows 7's system requirement should be not so high compared to Vista??

System requirements is pretty same like Vista. Oh ah I want Windows 7 Build 7000 64-bit. Anybody have the sauces? Kindly share please. Google always show the 32-bit one.

There is none. Wait for the official public beta if you want to get your hand on the X64

1. Agree with one-single version to avoid complications.
2. Agree with "combining". However, I'm a Leopard user and I never knew that I've got 32/64-Bit combined.
3. Leopard has a similar thing to UAC which is "File Vault" but it's disabled by default.
4. Windows 7 needa' be FULLY compatible with ALL XP and Vista software.

2. x64 = x64 + x86 edi with WOW64 i think , n i think m$ is trying to force everyone into 64bit since 32bit almost reached its limit - ram

well there's alot of debating on that (google it if u wan read more). Leopard is not really 64bit OS. Somehow Apple manage to mix with 64bit, the kernel is hybrid but still abit lack down. That's why later got snow leopard.

I don't 100% with Apple side, Apple currently minus off the carbon 64bit and they want all developers to code in Cocoa. That's why Adobe CS4 (mac) don't have 64bit. They need to re-write the coding (from Carbon -> Cocoa). That's one hell

The major problem that concerns me is the compatibility with many softwares we are using. It took Vista quite a long time to mature.

anyone tried using Intel PROset\Wireless 2200BG on 7???

i installed the driver (Vista), but can't even switch on the adapter...

anyone here got the installation for this windows 7 beta build 7000series ah?
i want to try it.
but minimum spec for this installation?

Wait for the public beta on 13th January, and please do read through the few last pages about it...

1 - No. There is a reason that Microsoft sold different versions of the OS, and that's because there are always a target market for each version. The Vista Business if you remember, lacks the media capability of home or ultimate, and that's because it's meant for a business enviroment where usually media is not important, but performance is.

2 - Not really that confusing, and it's mostly down to how well programmers want it to be implemented

3 - UAC is important. Nuff said

4 - Blame the software. Never blame the OS.

5 - Really? For me inflation fixed, vista was the same as XP when it was launched. The same can be said for other softwares anyways. Why do I need to pay RM9000 for Adobe CS4 when I already paid for my CS3?

u can always install windows 7 beta1 on Virtualbox 2.1 if u want to test its functionality. For me...windows 7 is definitely 'feels' more lighter than windows vista when installed on virtualbox. D best thing is it boots and runs faster than vista...maybe its bcoz of d small memory usage. IMO, d final version will not be as 'lighter' as d beta version...once d unwanted extra softwares and services are added. Also...why do people complain about UAC???if it annoys u...just turn it off...real easy.

This post has been edited by rendude: Jan 6 2009, 04:54 PM

looks same with windows vista..

1. Well, then there should not be Ultimate, Home, Basic = all three can be purchased for use by a home user. I'm not thinking techno geeks going out and knowing exactly what they want, but the less tech-savvy ones as well might not know exactly whether they need certain apps or not.

2. I believe not all software makers really want to go 64bit. And most of them are still doing 32bit. It would be great if the OS is able to support 32bit and 64bit.

3. Well, it should be turned off by default. How can one use a computer that keeps asking them 'cancel or allow' ? I do know that 7 has reduced the number of UAC prompts, but its still there.

4. Hmm, I guess as long as 'Compatibility mode' works, that's fine. Now I'm wondering who should push who - the OS makers or the software devs to go towards a certain standard...

5. You had to pay 'extra' for Ultimate. For features that the user may not even use in the first place. Windows 7 better not do this.

Same thing with Windows XP when it's launched, have you not going through that time? No I suppose

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Added on January 6, 2009, 6:25 pmReally? Who pay rm9000 for full version when there's upgrade that cost lesser if you already own CS3?

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Added on January 6, 2009, 6:27 pmbecause it's based on Vista interface? Same goes for Mac OSX Snow Leopard being same looking as Mac OSX Leopard...

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Added on January 6, 2009, 6:35 pm1. Yes. Agreed. There should be only three version, Home Premium (or whatever Microsoft want it named) for home users with basic functionality, Business for of course, business and corporate use, and Ultimate for an added extras such as WMC

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3. If it's turned off by default, then user will complaint later when their PC get infected. Most suitable way is to ask user at first login if he/she want to turn off UAC or not (with some explanation of UAC usage)

4. Definitely software developers. Their so-called OS detection routine and OS specific functionality is what causing the incompatibilites. Take a look at Microsoft Visual Basic 4.0, it still runs on Vista last time I checked, and the only thing that prevent Adobe Photoshop 3.04 from running in Vista is the memory check: it can't run on PC with RAM higher than 256mb.

5. That's definitely true. I can count the "extras" developed for Ultimate these past years and it's not worth the price tag.

This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Jan 6 2009, 06:35 PM

Fair enough, but
2 - In theory the 64bit OS CAN support 32bit, but not natively. the reason that some OS won't release a 'combo' is that certain things might not work at all in these OS. For example even linux distros are still using either 32/64bit, not both

3 - No. After using Unix for a while I come to see why it is important to be left turned on. And as Microsoft said it themselves, the more annoying it is, the less likely you are going to make the same mistake again

5 - And thus back to the first argument. Why DOES Microsoft creates different version? Because of different target users. If you don't have the money, why bother getting the Ultimate in the first place? The reason I am using Ultimate was because of the free key that I got for submitting bug during the Beta II phase. If I want to buy, I'd go for the cheaper and yet good enough home premium.

Hey... newbie here... currently using XP... with a medium pc spec, Geforce 8600GT, 1.5GB DDR2 RAM, 160GB HDD. got chance for me to use Vienna? and where can we get the current version? pm me please.. i heard that it is 13th of january?

This post has been edited by KuzumiTaiga: Jan 6 2009, 09:23 PM

Your spec is good enough for Windows7. However, a RAM upgrade will help it run even more faster. Go Google yourself or just wait another 1 week for the public beta.

what... what is public beta??

Still though, even if you have more than enough money, the extras provided in Ultimate just pretty much available with freewares for other edition. Microsoft need to push more extras and make them unique (and non-reproducable for other edition) for the priciest Windows available.

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Added on January 6, 2009, 9:42 pmPublic beta is a phase where the beta is available for any users who would like to try the OS directly from Microsoft legally with an unique activation key.

This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Jan 6 2009, 09:42 PM