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 Investing in US stocks, Does anyone know how?

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mH3nG
post Sep 1 2009, 11:29 PM

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AIG is falling. Hard.
Down 15% to about USD38
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:36 PM

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AIG falling hard? not hard enough ler.

My funding still in progress. What I can do today is watch only.. haiya..

Now MBTrading can short C: last week cannot.
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:40 PM

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How low do you think it'll go? hmm.gif
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(mH3nG @ Sep 1 2009, 11:40 PM)
How low do you think it'll go?  hmm.gif
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$20 for this short-term. Remember AIG stock split 1:20 last few months.

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post Sep 2 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 1 2009, 11:45 PM)
$20 for this short-term. Remember AIG stock split 1:20 last few months.
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20$. Is it really possible for it to get that low? On what basis are you saying that? Do you mind sharing as it would enlighten us more. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 2 2009, 12:39 AM

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Why limit to only AIG and C...why not have a look at other finance companies. The better companies should be the first to go up if things really gets better from here right ?
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post Sep 2 2009, 01:00 AM

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C buying opportunity is here tonight (-6.8%)... stagger first buy batch. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 2 2009, 12:39 AM)
Why limit to only AIG and C...why not have a look at other finance companies. The better companies should be the first to go up if things really gets better from here right ?
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Because of strong backing from the US goverment. With 80% ownership by US government, AIG is bulletproof for the time being.
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post Sep 2 2009, 06:59 AM

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Good luck to those wanted to buy any company stock owned by US govt thinking it is bulletproof.

This isn't Malaysia where there is a concept of GLCs. Not I am saying GLCs is good, is just that US govt view of private investors interests are very different from Malaysian view.

This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 2 2009, 07:02 AM
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post Sep 2 2009, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 2 2009, 12:39 AM)
Why limit to only AIG and C...why not have a look at other finance companies. The better companies should be the first to go up if things really gets better from here right ?
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its not for long-term investment, AIG is good for super short term.
remember, you can SHORT AIG, what counter you can short, tell me?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 2 2009, 08:11 AM)
its not for long-term investment, AIG is good for super short term.
remember, you can SHORT AIG, what counter you can short, tell me?
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If AIG is for super short term, how about C?
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post Sep 2 2009, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 2 2009, 12:39 AM)
Why limit to only AIG and C...why not have a look at other finance companies. The better companies should be the first to go up if things really gets better from here right ?
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Suggest some "GOOD" company. Do u mean JPM?

JP Morgan Chase owned $1 out of $10 currency bills circulated in the system. If US$ crash, JPM down in the toilet. Nothing solid man, everything is risky


Added on September 2, 2009, 8:36 am
QUOTE(eslife @ Sep 2 2009, 08:32 AM)
If AIG is for super short term, how about C?
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C is more towards short term, I'm still positive looking at $6.00-7.00, not $10.

Visit:
thestreet.com
247wallst
thedeal.com
wsj.com

Tons of article discussing/debate/arguing on C. Some eerie article state that 2nd wave of financial collapse is just around the corner.





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post Sep 2 2009, 09:38 AM

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If you like to play short term or "day trading" for financials check out these:

FAS - Bull market Financial 3x
FAZ - Bear market Financial 3x

3x means 3 times the firing power.

You must not have faint of heart when trading those two. brows.gif

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post Sep 2 2009, 10:21 AM

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Direxion Daily Financial Bear 3X Shares (NYSE: FAZ) is probably the biggest go-to instrument for traders betting against the market because it offers triple-leverage in a bet against the financial stocks in the Russell 1000 Financial Services Index

The ’slightly less bearish’ winner here is the UltraShort Financials ProShares (NYSE: SKF), which offers ‘only’ twice the inverse of the daily performance of the Dow Jones U.S. Financials index.

UltraShort S&P500 ProShares (NYSE: SDS) offers twice the inverse of the daily performance of the S&P 500 Index.

UltraShort Oil & Gas ProShares (NYSE: DUG) that offers twice the inverse of the daily performance of the Dow Jones U.S. Oil & Gas index.

UltraShort Real Estate ProShares (NYSE: SRS) This one offers twice the inverse of the daily performance of the Dow Jones U.S. Real Estate index.

As a reminder, these leverage and inverse-leverage ETF products often do not mirror their index levels.
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post Sep 2 2009, 10:50 AM

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Watch for FAZ and FAS tomorrow. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 2 2009, 11:25 AM

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DMC - thanks for the ETF list.

I think rather than entering C or AIG, better choice is FAS/FAZ smile.gif


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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 2 2009, 11:25 AM)
DMC - thanks for the ETF list.

I think rather than entering C or AIG, better choice is FAS/FAZ smile.gif
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Yeah, just watch for those two pairs if you're into daytrading financials and if you're into quick profit.
Remember, they're not long term investments because they're very volatile.

If C or BAC moves 1x, they move 3x. brows.gif
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post Sep 2 2009, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 2 2009, 10:50 AM)
Watch for FAZ and FAS tomorrow.  biggrin.gif
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FAZ and FAS is for long or short term?
If short term, how short?
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post Sep 2 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(eslife @ Sep 2 2009, 12:50 PM)
FAZ and FAS is for long or short term?
If short term, how short?
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hard to say, you won't know the market reaction will be the coming days. Everyday is unique.

It could be super short term, 1-2 days. FAZ will goes up in BEAR market.

AIG pre-market down, C down, BAC down.. this 3 good enuf to move FAZ.

Bear is coming to town . After Hours: 26.64 Up 0.25 (0.95%) 7:59pm ET
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post Sep 2 2009, 04:25 PM

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Would september be low generally?

Can't load my bullet fast enough. Hope it can stay low till end september.

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