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post Dec 13 2007, 12:51 AM, updated 19y ago

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So i recently bought my PS3. Having real fun with it, turning it into a dvd player, blu-ray player, messing with the media server, streaming songs, videos, animes, playing games, surfing net etc. Until ive come to a point thinking i just turned my PS3 into a full fledged media center WITH games.
However, I have friends having different opinions about my PS3. They say PC is still superior because it can be constantly upgraded and customized (ie. upgrade Graphics card, processor, RAM etc.)

So, what do fellow LYN think? Are Next-Gen Consoles(PS3, xbox360) Superior? Are my friends just jealous of me proudly owning a next-Gen Console? Or are the two things really different that they are incomparable?
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post Dec 13 2007, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Dec 13 2007, 12:51 AM)
So i recently bought my PS3. Having real fun with it, turning it into a dvd player, blu-ray player, messing with the media server, streaming songs, videos, animes, playing games, surfing net etc. Until ive come to a point thinking i just turned my PS3 into a full fledged media center WITH games.
However, I have friends having different opinions about my PS3. They say PC is still superior because it can be constantly upgraded and customized (ie. upgrade Graphics card, processor, RAM etc.)

So, what do fellow LYN think? Are Next-Gen Consoles(PS3, xbox360) Superior? Are my friends just jealous of me proudly owning a next-Gen Console? Or are the two things really different that they are incomparable?
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PC ability for upgrading and customizing is a double edge sword. In one hand, you get the benefit or modding and customizing your PC, but you will splurge more money for that. Where in game console case, the system is created to last for several years without ever having to upgrade or changing to the newer games or functions.

Thats why I hate PC games, coz they always make new games based on the latest graphic advancement, which makes your expensive graphic card outdated in less than a year.
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post Dec 13 2007, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Dec 13 2007, 12:59 AM)
PC ability for upgrading and customizing is a double edge sword. In one hand, you get the benefit or modding and customizing your PC, but you will splurge more money for that. Where in game console case, the system is created to last for several years without ever having to upgrade or changing to the newer games or functions.

Thats why I hate PC games, coz they always make new games based on the latest graphic advancement, which makes your expensive graphic card outdated in less than a year.
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But that what makes them superior then the next gen gaming console. smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2007, 01:12 AM

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PC is superior if you're Samy Vellu 's son.
For of us normal folks out here, PS3 beat our PC hands down. For PC every 6 months you'll have to upgrade to stay at the top, hardisk, RAM, Graphics,.. etc you get the point. Then the matter of maintenance as in defrag, antivirus, anti-spy etc just so the PC in tip top shape plus the geek knowledge of overclocking , cooling etc.

So for PC to be superior to PS3 it'll be like akin to a human bodybuilder keeping shape eating 12 eggs per day, RM5++ per day of diets and supplements, weight lifting etc. Our PC is like couch potatoes only, fat and lazy. While PS3 is like a Cyborg. Can't grow much can't loose much.

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post Dec 13 2007, 01:16 AM

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just an example.
PS2 is released on 2000.
what u can do with ur year 2000 computer now. and now PS2 still kickin ass.
i rather buy console than a PC that need an upgrade from time to time.waste money so much.but that's my idea...different ppl,different thought.
everytime u bought a game...one thing that play in ur mind. "i hope my PC meets the requirement to play this". but with console,just buy any games u like.if u love strategy games..i dont think it needs so much powerful PC to run it.enjoy ur strategy games with an ordinary PC(obviously now everybody owns one) and enjoy other genres with ur superb next-gen console and last's for next 6-7years.
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post Dec 13 2007, 07:52 AM

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I'm a recent converter from pc gaming to console gaming and I think it's not so much a question of which one is superior, but how much money you can afford to spend.

But if you look at it from another different perspective, which one do you think is superior?

a) something that can play current games at maximum settings and high framerate for like one year before you need to buy new components to keep it performing at max settings and high framerate

or

b) something that can play current games that dont even have to set maximum or minimum, with high framerate and exclusive titles for 5 years?


I am seriously sick of having to upgrade, and worrying whether my pc can support or not with every new title that's gonna come. I am also sick of lying to myself saying "oh still ok what the framerate" even though the fps meter says otherwise.

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post Dec 13 2007, 08:02 AM

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PC vs Console= endless war
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post Dec 13 2007, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(JayYeong39 @ Dec 13 2007, 08:02 AM)
PC vs Console= endless war
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waaa...my vote make console win.....
first console will win, next 3 year PC will win, after that new next Gen console come and console will win again..then after 3 years PC will win.....next after next will come,then bla bla bla....PC vs Console= endless war
but for only playing game...console will definitely win...
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post Dec 13 2007, 12:07 PM

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Expensive + powerful + lots of worries + constant upgrade + compatibility issue + better control for FPS & strategty ( mouse & keyboard)= PC

Affordable + Fun + No worries + convenient (no need install) jus insert DVD + Lots of games + Graphics (par on par wif PC)+ rumble joypad = Next gen

Hmm.. Well tats my point of view.. hehe..

Well times change, PC gaming sux in meeting customers satisfaction. I want to play Crysis.. but the hardware upgrades are too much.. (Unless u won a lottery or kena jackpot )

Console is like 3 in 1 nescafe.. Jus pop the game disc in the tray and u r ready to go. So wat if the console has 2-3 yrs life cycle.. By the time comes , they release a new better and powerful console.

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post Dec 13 2007, 12:14 PM

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Both of it completely different I must say. As for PC gaming involves more key functions and strategy settings while PS is more into single role playing enhancement.

Anyhow, they are different.
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post Dec 13 2007, 12:31 PM

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Well yea they r different.

Can't have anyting perfect in life
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post Dec 13 2007, 12:55 PM

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Totally not from the same planet dude...
each of them have their own strength...
I have both PC and PS3
and i sleep with them both hahahaha..

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post Dec 13 2007, 01:50 PM

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They are 2 different thing! Gaming console is just for gaming + some multimedia stuff! PC has more function than just gaming, u get to do graphic, codings, +++!

If u want to compare game than i would said console way better than PC! Although someppl may argue that PC has better graphic cards and stuff like tat but wat it is the used of better graphic when u dun have much game to play with! U end up playing one or 2 very good graphic games while others just so so onli
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:13 PM

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I prefer to play games with console while use pc for surfing and chatting keke tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Dec 13 2007, 01:12 AM)
PC is superior if you're Samy Vellu 's son.
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biggrin.gif True...true..

OK, PC vs. Consoles is one thing.

Xbox 360 vs. PS3 is another thing.

PC vs. Consoles
[Consoles wins hands down] IF you can't afford to upgrade every now and then
[PC wins hands down] IF, well, you're a rich man's son (or you can turn down the details, in this case, you lose)

Xbox 360 vs. PS3
[Both consoles wins hands down]
Why ? Taste. Do I like Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy. Eeeww... eat my dust! I mean, I don't play them. So, its Gears of War and Halo for me. Its just taste.

HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
[Blu-Ray wins] BUT if you want HD quality movies, then both would do the trick. If you're "richer", go Blu-Ray


Added on December 13, 2007, 3:22 pm
QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Dec 13 2007, 01:12 AM)
PC is superior if you're Samy Vellu 's son.
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biggrin.gif True...true..

OK, PC vs. Consoles is one thing.

Xbox 360 vs. PS3 is another thing.

PC vs. Consoles
[Consoles wins hands down] IF you can't afford to upgrade every now and then
[PC wins hands down] IF, well, you're a rich man's son (or you can turn down the details, in this case, you lose)

Xbox 360 vs. PS3
[Both consoles wins hands down]
Why ? Taste. Do I like Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy. Eeeww... eat my dust! I mean, I don't play them. So, its Gears of War and Halo for me. Its just taste.

HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
[Blu-Ray wins] BUT if you want HD quality movies, then both would do the trick. If you're "richer", go Blu-Ray






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post Dec 13 2007, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Dec 13 2007, 12:07 PM)
So wat if the console has 2-3 yrs life cycle.. By the time comes , they release  a new better and powerful console.
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Uh correction, PS1 lived for about 5 years, PS2 lived for about 7 years, PS3 is rumoured to lived at least 10 years. Before that theres Sega dreamcast, NES, SNES all which i believe have lived at least 5 years or more.
On the contrary, PC can only 'live' a year or so, cause after that, like the many have said, you'll need to upgrade it.

But money aside, For the same price, (cheaper in fact) you get as many functions in a Next-Gen console as in a PC! xD
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post Dec 13 2007, 05:05 PM

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The PC wins hands down, only because it is an evolving platform whereas in between generations, console technology (released that is, not in developement) stays constant.

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post Dec 13 2007, 05:06 PM

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PC PAWNS CONSOLE!!
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post Dec 13 2007, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 13 2007, 05:06 PM)
PC PAWNS CONSOLE!!
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post Dec 13 2007, 06:25 PM

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if compare hardware ..... i have my eye on the PS3's Cell Broadband Processor. Those 1 PPE and 7 SPE's are yummy!!!!
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This is a no-brainer. PC of course.
Unless, the question is more specific.
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post Dec 13 2007, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Maya Aimi @ Dec 13 2007, 06:25 PM)
if compare hardware ..... i have my eye on the PS3's Cell Broadband Processor. Those 1 PPE and 7 SPE's are yummy!!!!
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oh you make it sound so dirty you
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:41 AM

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pc is the answer... but considering pc with non stop upgrade.. hehehe.. i suggest those with pc.. get one good one now.. with latest tech of mobo,gc, procs and max the ram i think 4g should be fine... spend few k in it.. then it should last u few years of gaming compatible...

i dont mean u can play all game in few years time in full max setting but u still can play it... all u need is upgrade ur gc la... like once in a year or two.... for console... one shot spen few k then thats it.... no more major upgrade.... but one thing is one day u will see that grapic on pc is much much more better than this console... choosing pc will burn more hole to ur pocket and wallet which one u want? but for me i choose both... la.... that doesnt make me rich guy but some game really feel good on pc or console... and i need both any way.. lol

anyway as of now i still using old pc... p4 2.4.. but my gc is 7600gt... and it still rock my world.. lol.. soon gonna get a ps3 since now only have ps2...

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few years ? yeah .... that was what I thought when I upgraded mine to the highest end at that time with 3 GB RAM, 7800GT. Then they announced DX10 coming.

Hardly lasted a year for max setting.
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well pc only be superior if the owner always upgrade the hardware. If not, most likely the pc cant play many game after a few year.


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post Dec 15 2007, 10:29 AM

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PC need installation, u hv to clear off ur HD if you do not play... Console juz plug n play. U can play as many games as u want!
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post Dec 15 2007, 10:46 AM

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PC for sure....
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post Dec 15 2007, 11:27 AM

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If you think about raw and unadulterated power, PC is your man to go. But talking about bang for the buck, console f*ck PC over.
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post Dec 15 2007, 02:18 PM

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Not a PC gamer, but truth be told. You NEED a PC to make games for consoles.
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post Dec 15 2007, 02:48 PM

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but in the end it all comes down to the games which as we may see more are on the way for the consoles since they're slightly easier to developed comparative for the pc with multiple specs to have in mind. However, like muchi said you still need the pc to develop games for the console like for instance an article i read stated that DMC4 development started on PC engine than it was put it on the consoles.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Dec 14 2007, 11:36 AM)
few years ? yeah .... that was what I thought when I upgraded mine to the highest end at that time with 3 GB RAM, 7800GT. Then they announced DX10 coming.

Hardly lasted a year for max setting.
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yeah i understand ur frustration.... but buying gc at the end of the tech change over is a bad idea... same goes with procs and ram... hahaha just like me buyin p4 few month b4 new breed of procs come out... hahaha.... buyin pc part for procs and ram, better buy it once after its release new tech and keep updated on new tech just to avoid the same situation... i bought my 76gt just a year b4 dx 10 come out but then i keep on changing gc one in 2 years.. hahaha

any way.. console can last u long enuff... haha if u dont mind the graphic at the long run...
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post Dec 16 2007, 02:18 AM

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at the moment the next gen console is having similar graphics compare to pc, dont take Crysis in lo

it all depends on the money u willing to spend, for the console now still able to deliver more pixels per dollar you paid. Xbox or PS3 can get at RM1.5k, but 8800GT already costs RM900, if add a C2D then RM1.5k finish already, and u still need money for mobo and RAM. And a PC bought at RM1.5k isn't for gaming at all.

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Console VS PC always have their Advantages, and disadvantages. I played games and experienced both PC and consoles.

For consoles they are cheap yet gaining performance that is almost equal to higher priced PC. THe downside for consoles is the hardware are all static. It does not changes.

FOr PC, the disadvantages is of coz the price. But PC can be upgraded and again, the disadvantages is you have to spend more money. I am a PC gamer, and i choose PC for as my gaming platform coz it is multi purpose ( i can use it for my work, assignment, editing , GAMING and etc) and at the same time, I can mess around with the PC ( such as OCing, case modding ). And i believe most PC gamer dont mind to spend their money to upgrade their computer because, putting me as example, i dont mind upgrading my PC to gain top-notch graphics that current console can not get ( but later it will when new console out).But in order to get top-end experience, you also got to work top-end for the money haha. No pain, no gain nuff said.

But for games like arcade style i'd prefer consoles. For FPS,RTS,RPG,Third person shooter ( which i played the most ) i'd go for PC. Racing games is fine on both for me.

As for the question for the topic, of course PC is superior now.

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ackkkk ...... why no one mentioned the Cell Processor?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor

Said chip package was widely regarded to run at a clock speed of 4 GHz and with 32 APUs providing 32 GFLOPS each, the Broadband Engine was shown to have 1 teraflop of raw computing power.


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I personally vote for PC.
Reason:
1. I can buy pc for gaming (and online game), surfing internet, writing source code and various apps that can be done on pc which ps3 has limited ability.

Anyway, PS3/ XBOX360 are sold under cost (MS/ sony loss money on console hardware) and they have far better processing power than a pc with same price tag.

About endless pc upgrade, that very much depends on how u think about it/ justify.
- Do u REALLY need frequent hardware upgrade (every year) or u can compromise with the middle/lower graphic effects/resolution.
- How u select PC parts when u buy pc so that it can lasts at least 2 years
- Will u be very upset if only 1 or 2 games which require higher pc specs cannot be supported while there are still a bunch o pc games that ur pc can support.

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So far i only see Cell processor is better for calculating in-game physics becoz Cell proc hav better performance for floating point calculations. Btw, More GHz doesnt mean better performance than lower GHz. P4 3.0GHz losing so bad with AMD proc last time even it is 1.8GHz. Architecture for the proc determines the performance for the proc.

And one R&D team from japan just recently invented 3D transistors that may be able to produce 50GHz processor . Source http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/08/un..._3d_transistor/
http://www.techchee.com/2007/12/08/sgt-3d-...rs-clock-speed/
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nowdays consoles good if it came with pirate blueray......blueray too $$ la ....10 game = 2000+ 1.3k(consoles) = 3.3k can get very good pc alredy =.='''
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GeForce 8800 GTX

Back when Sony announced the specifications of the PlayStation 3, everyone asked if it meant the end of PC gaming. After all Cell looked very strong and NVIDIA's RSX GPU had tremendous power. We asked NVIDIA how long it would take until we saw a GPU faster than the RSX. Their answer: by the time the PS3 ships. So congratulations to NVIDIA for making the PS3 obsolete before it ever shipped, as G80 is truly a beast.


http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=29
and that was only for the 8800gtx (G80), now the (G92) base 8800 gt and gts and the ultimate ultra edition, playstation 3 is even further behind the pc in terms of the performance..

PC IS more powerful, no doubt about that, but the catch is it's an expensive option, powerful things come at a price, like produa myvi (ps3 is cheap but weak) vs Mitsubishi evo (a powerful computer but expensive)...

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i like the uniformity introduced across all consoles. as opposed to the need to cater to different hardware specs for the pc games market


regardless to the fact that the RSX chip might not compete against the latest nvidia/radeo offerings, the games still appear fine to me.

and to the developers and publishers, they make more money making games for consoles anyway... more moeny = more interest = more games (better games, if u will)

go consoles
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post Dec 21 2007, 03:20 PM

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Next-Gen Consoles vs PC ( FOR GAMES )

It must be Next-Gen console. For pc, the hardware requirement is the main cause giving headches to gamers after a while. If people have money, they dont mind upgrade or buy a gaming pc for RM 3000 +. After few months, need to upgrade in order to play the latest and more demanding games. By first year, his pc rig should be outdated by motherboard technology.

For next gen console, we fork RM1500-RM2000 and enjoy the games until the next gen console comes out 5 years later. The PC guy should still have a outdated 5 years old computer.

For GAMING long run - NEXT GEN CONSOLE RULES.
FOR MULTIMEDIA - THE HUMBLE PC WILL SERVE ITS PURPOSE.

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If you're talking about multitasking, PC is the best option. But when it comes to gaming, next-gen console is the best option for me. Why?

Because first of all, you don't have to upgrade. Just plug and play. You can play most of the games without problem. The graphics are superb. You want to compare it to Crysis (DX10)? I think with the PS3 cell-powered CPU, this is achiveable. Only that we have to wait for someone to make it happen (if its going to happen). Controllers are extensible. You can plug in a mouse and a keyboard if you want to (not sure if PS3 is capable of this but the PS2 is). So, you can play RTS and FPS just like a PC. Lastly, there are some exclusive titles that you won't get for a PC.

p/s: This only applies if you buy all games original. For those who play pirated might not really agree with me since they can just download it and not support the gaming industry.
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I've been a console fan for many years and I have to admit it, the PC are able to produce better & stunning graphics. I don't think the PS3 nor the 360 can match it. If I am correct, PS3's RSX uses technologies from GeForce 7series. Therefore in terms of eye candy, PC should be able to beat the PS3.


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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Dec 21 2007, 03:46 PM)
If you're talking about multitasking, PC is the best option. But when it comes to gaming, next-gen console is the best option for me. Why?

Because first of all, you don't have to upgrade. Just plug and play. You can play most of the games without problem. The graphics are superb. You want to compare it to Crysis (DX10)? I think with the PS3 cell-powered CPU, this is achiveable. Only that we have to wait for someone to make it happen (if its going to happen). Controllers are extensible. You can plug in a mouse and a keyboard if you want to (not sure if PS3 is capable of this but the PS2 is). So, you can play RTS and FPS just like a PC. Lastly, there are some exclusive titles that you won't get for a PC.

p/s: This only applies if you buy all games original. For those who play pirated might not really agree with me since they can just download it and not support the gaming industry.
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Because first of all, you don't have to upgrade. Just plug and play.

nod.gif Totally agree...

Consoles gamers...

At the end of the day... all we want is some bloody FUN !!! I used to tweak and edit and upgrade (upgraded to GeForce 7 from Radeon 9600, now I am sick of PC upgrades)...







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4 pc u need lotsa budget bro better invest in cosole confirm 6 years u can play every damn title console offer,PC hehehehe max 6 month a new graphic card is out and games need higher spec PC more money,Choose 6 years(Console)/6 months(PC)
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 23 2007, 12:49 PM)
Because first of all, you don't have to upgrade. Just plug and play.

nod.gif  Totally agree...

Consoles gamers...

At the end of the day... all we want is some bloody FUN !!! I used to tweak and edit and upgrade (upgraded to GeForce 7 from Radeon 9600, now I am sick of PC upgrades)...
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Agreed with you. With your case ( and many of us ) which you will ended up paying more for graphic card upgrade which will be costing more than new PS3 or XBoX 360.

Unless you are born rich, Console is the best platform for gaming. icon_rolleyes.gif
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PS3 superior n cheaper than high end pc
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i guess pc is better. i can actually do multipass video encoding for a video with a duration of 4 hours and at the same time play hellgate london online without any problem with my current PC rig...how cool is that? biggrin.gif
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Pc is not just for gaming thats all we know, lowend pc only for paper work or surfing internet, for multitasking work, we need at least dual core processor to do it, for gaming pc we need at least a good graphic card, so how much we have to spend for a game like Crysis in full/ high display setting, calculate urself. Console they are start for gaming and end for gaming, console no need to install the game into hardisk, u can play every game without install it n only changing the cd, so console really doesn't need high capacity hardisk, u need it when u want to store something media inside the console. I m using pc more than my console in most of time, but for gaming i using my console more than pc, but i spend money on pc are more than my console. But i believe that 75% pc user mostly got their own a console.

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Dec 21 2007, 03:46 PM)
If you're talking about multitasking, PC is the best option. But when it comes to gaming, next-gen console is the best option for me. Why?

Because first of all, you don't have to upgrade. Just plug and play. You can play most of the games without problem. The graphics are superb. You want to compare it to Crysis (DX10)? I think with the PS3 cell-powered CPU, this is achiveable.
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Actually, none of the consoles are able to produce full DX10 effects iinm. Both the 360 and PS3 are fundamentally DX9. Please correct me if i'm wrong
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Dec 27 2007, 04:53 PM)
Actually, none of the consoles are able to produce full DX10 effects iinm. Both the 360 and PS3 are fundamentally DX9. Please correct me if i'm wrong
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there's no way to compare dx10 graphics and console unless by judging it with eyes.

both xbox360 and ps3 will never able to produce crysis in maxxed out resolution lah... even in 1080p also got problem alrdy
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Hrmm.. keep on discuss on graphic and resolution. Gameplay is more important than graphic, at least for me~~
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Ok, you want to know how next-gen consoles fare against top end PC ?

Wait for Alan Wake...

This game has been "proven" to be equally as good as the PC. The console version is not 100% same with the PC, but just wait and see, you will be amazed at how good, e.g Xbox 360 is, compared to PC.


Note : DX10 ? More like DX9.

An "insider" tweak (heck, just go to tweakguides.com) has a "cheap" method of unlocking the graphical finess of DirectX 10 Crysis... in DirectX 9.

Very High DX 9 vs. Very High DX10 has "no difference whatsoever".


So much for DX10. And I waited Crysis to showcase DX10 only to be told that DX9 can do it too.


In the mean time, its off to drool and wait at...
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360elite/


Added on December 28, 2007, 5:37 pmThis shocked me...

NOTE : Don't shout and me this and that, the game is running on a very high end PC. The PC version's graphics can't get any better than this.

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 28 2007, 05:35 PM)
An "insider" tweak (heck, just go to tweakguides.com) has a "cheap" method of unlocking the graphical finess of DirectX 10 Crysis... in DirectX 9.

Very High DX 9 vs. Very High DX10 has "no difference whatsoever".
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I did go to tweakguides, and look what I found onthis page

Quote from tweakguides.com

"Before we go any further however, it's important to understand that this is not a "DX10 hack", as under DX10 Crysis does indeed have some additional subtle effects which are exclusive and can't be reproduced in DX9"

QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 28 2007, 05:35 PM)

Added on December 28, 2007, 5:37 pmThis shocked me...

NOTE : Don't shout and me this and that, the game is running on a very high end PC. The PC version's graphics can't get any better than this.
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Your naivety shocked me. All we have to go by is the word of the poster. My PC (8500 GT, AMD 3000+XP) can run Just Cause looking better than that (I have shadows man!). Why dont you post the comparisons done by credible sources instead? Like the Oblivion or Bioshock ones done by IGN (or was it gamespot?). Please do your homework first next time lest you come across as an ignorant fanboy. wink.gif

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Dec 29 2007, 01:45 AM)
I did go to tweakguides, and look what I found onthis page

"Before we go any further however, it's important to understand that this is not a "DX10 hack", as under DX10 Crysis does indeed have some additional subtle effects which are exclusive and can't be reproduced in DX9"
Your naivety shocked me. All we have to go by is the word of the poster. My PC (8500 GT, AMD 3000+XP) can run Just Cause looking better than that (I have shadows man!). Why dont you post the comparisons done by credible sources instead? Like the Oblivion or Bioshock ones done by IGN (or was it gamespot?). Please do your homework first next time lest you come across as an ignorant fanboy. wink.gif
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Sry, what u mean and what game u running most???
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once again, pc is ever growing, by the mid-high pc as of today, it can already outbeat any consoles made today. But of course, if talking performance per dollar, Xbox360 or PS3 still leads. While some of you still debate which games look better on 1080p, some PC gamers now have ventured into resolution much higher than that, think of playing games on 27-30" LCD monitor with native resolution, even single card solution will be stalled.

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Actually you do not need to upgrade your gc every year. My humble 7900 gs have better or equivalent graphics capability as PS3 or Xbox. Gears of Wars or older games such as Prey and Condemned looked better on the pc. Don't forget if you want to run next gen console you'll also need next gen tv which still cost more than 2.5K. If you use old tv, the graphics will not be as good. For PC I can even run it on my good old CRT monitor and they still look better than normal tv.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 30 2007, 02:21 PM)
Actually you do not need to upgrade your gc every year. My humble 7900 gs have better or equivalent graphics capability as PS3 or Xbox. Gears of Wars or older games such as Prey and Condemned looked better on the pc. Don't forget if you want to run next gen console you'll also need next gen tv which still cost more than 2.5K. If you use old tv, the graphics will not be as good. For PC I can even run it on my good old CRT monitor and they still look better than normal tv.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 30 2007, 02:21 PM)
Actually you do not need to upgrade your gc every year. My humble 7900 gs have better or equivalent graphics capability as PS3 or Xbox. Gears of Wars or older games such as Prey and Condemned looked better on the pc. Don't forget if you want to run next gen console you'll also need next gen tv which still cost more than 2.5K. If you use old tv, the graphics will not be as good. For PC I can even run it on my good old CRT monitor and they still look better than normal tv.
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Hey, dun just talking crap here, i m using my pc and console with a same LCD monitor and sound system, compare the graphic and sound, i never feel that my pc have anything better than my console, especially the sound, o yeah, dun ask me to add another sound card for it.

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Dec 30 2007, 02:21 PM)
Actually you do not need to upgrade your gc every year. My humble 7900 gs have better or equivalent graphics capability as PS3 or Xbox. Gears of Wars or older games such as Prey and Condemned looked better on the pc. Don't forget if you want to run next gen console you'll also need next gen tv which still cost more than 2.5K. If you use old tv, the graphics will not be as good. For PC I can even run it on my good old CRT monitor and they still look better than normal tv.
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well nowadays LCD are better than CRT a lot
a 24" LCD monitor should pair well with x360 and ps3, and also pc gaming.
again ppl who play console never bother about graphics... as long as it looks decent enough its ok alrdy
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i am sorry for bumping up this old thread. Need advice on whether it is still a good buy for PS3? Already 2 years in the market and so far no pirated games yet (buying games could be very expensive)

i am also worry about the constant upgrading of PC, which again is very expensive but the games are cheap or free. and I get to play real time strategy games. (is there any RTS for PS3?)

or should i get xbox360 instead? sweat.gif
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If all you're interested in is pirated games, then the PC is the best bet. More RTS and more genres. The PS3/360 is more limited in that way, and you need a HDTV to enjoy it properly.

Most Malaysian 360/PS3 owners I know are original gamers - they buy/sell/trade with each other, so it's not too bad.
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QUOTE(davidbilly87 @ Dec 16 2007, 04:12 PM)
nowdays consoles good if it came with pirate blueray......blueray too $$ la ....10 game = 2000+ 1.3k(consoles) = 3.3k can get very good pc alredy =.='''
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yes its true



for original versions:
PC = RM3.5K + RM1.5 every 2 years + RM2xx per game
PS3 = RM1.5K console + RM2xx per game (10 games RM2xxx)


for jack sparrow version:
PC = RM3.5K + RM1.5 every 2 years + RM88 streamyx for downloads + RM2 per dvd
PS3 = RM1.5K console + RM50 per game (estimate for 1 game sell in average shop)


which one path you choose ?
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QUOTE(9876789 @ Sep 25 2008, 09:53 AM)
yes its true
for original versions:
PC = RM3.5K + RM1.5 every 2 years + RM2xx per game
PS3 = RM1.5K console + RM2xx per game (10 games RM2xxx)

for jack sparrow version:
PC = RM3.5K + RM1.5 every 2 years + RM88 streamyx for downloads + RM2 per dvd
PS3 = RM1.5K console + RM50 per game (estimate for 1 game sell in average shop)
which one path you choose ?
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for me PC always defining the Graphical superiority in Games. Most of Game Dev will think this first before anything else

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I go for both. Some games like RTS and FPS are more suitable to play on PC.
I can get a monitor with multiple input to enjoy both ps3 and pc hi-def graphics

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i'd rather play games on my xbox.
my laptop is getting old,and i only got at 2 years ago.though it still plays team fortress 2...

from my point of view,the xbox gets as many games as the pc and more,and gives you no troubles that include crashes,low specs,and low framerates.
it's always constant.

playing with my pc is always a bother,and when i think of playing spore or tf2,i keep thinking "do i really want to go through all the hassle just to play that one game?"

for example,i have to close all background apps and set my OS Paged pool memory just to play tf2,and i still get struttering and lock ups.

whereas on the xbox version of the orange box,i can just slap the disc in and just jump into a server almost instantly.

and oh man,don't even THINK of making me bring up guitar hero 3 pc or crysis.you don't wanna hear me rant...
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LOL

but for now..i think one of the biggest issue for PC games is...the irritating DRM .

Yes, you can installed the games 5 times...but since PC also got the tendencies to fall apart, the DRM is quite a nuisance

Example, Bioshock for PC need to activate it online and has the 5 times install limit . But on the Xbox360, you dont need to do all the stuff. Just put the disc and you are ready to play the game.


this is one of the reason i prefer console game eventho it more expensive than PC games
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I'm the one from PC gaming to Console gaming. Personally more prefer console gaming due to its superb graphic, smoothly gaming experience, and feel very good and nice when you're holding a controller instead of keyboard plus mouse.
For PC gaming, yes you do need to upgrade your PC such as processor, graphic card, hard disk, bigger LCD Mornitor for better gaming experience and to play the latest games. In my point of view, I better use the money to buy more games for my console and a medium spec PC already satisfied me.

No doubt, people nowadays can't live without a COMPUTER. So that is very difficult to compare between them.
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i was a serious console gamer during those snes and genesis era, then change to pc gamer during the late 90's when the pc gaming industries start to boom. stayed pc gamer all these years from those earlier pentium pro cpu until p4 era. then i got tired of spending bucks of updating my pc to keep on playing all the latest game. i think if i calculated my spending for my pc i have spent over RM15k for the last 10 years. then i bought xbox360 (my first console since snes) and converted to console gamer.

i think pc gaming is for those who are prepared to spend a lot in investing their pc. for me, i'd rather spend rm1.5k on a console which will last for at least 5 yrs than keep updating my pc every 2 yrs or so. but i do sometimes play rts on my pc since it's ridiculous to play rts on a console
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Sep 27 2008, 11:49 AM)
I'm the one from PC gaming to Console gaming. Personally more prefer console gaming due to its superb graphic, smoothly gaming experience, and feel very good and nice when you're holding a controller instead of keyboard plus mouse.
For PC gaming, yes you do need to upgrade your PC such as processor, graphic card, hard disk, bigger LCD Mornitor for better gaming experience and to play the latest games. In my point of view, I better use the money to buy more games for my console and a medium spec PC already satisfied me.

No doubt, people nowadays can't live without a COMPUTER. So that is very difficult to compare between them.
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Totally agree with this statement. PC suck big time compared to a next gen console. There seems to be a conspiracy between Intel and GPU card makers to force consumers to keep upgrading their PC every 2 years. Why waste all that money on upgrading your PC when you can buy more games for your console.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 3 2008, 11:46 PM)
Totally agree with this statement. PC suck big time compared to a next gen console. There seems to be a conspiracy between Intel and GPU card makers to force consumers to keep upgrading their PC every 2 years. Why waste all that money on upgrading your PC when you can buy more games for your console.
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Somemore,nowadays game developer only design games for console,and they dont want focus on pc gaming anymore(except crysis),most of the developer just port the console version title to PC,so the graphic definately lose to console.From example the PC version Call Of Duty 4 graphics is so lame compare to Xbox 360 and PS3 version.Honestly,eventhough you run COD 4 on high spec PC the graphic still lost to Xbox 360 version(or ps3).Console is designed for those who want fun and High-end gaming as well.PC is only suitable for playing the games like "Dota",and all those chinese online gaming which dont need high-end graphics.
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Oct 3 2008, 11:59 PM)
Somemore,nowadays game developer only design games for console,and they dont want focus on pc gaming anymore(except crysis),most of the developer just port the console version title to PC,so the graphic definately lose to console.From example the PC version Call Of Duty 4 graphics is so lame compare to Xbox 360 and PS3 version.Honestly,eventhough you run COD 4 on high spec PC the graphic still lost to Xbox 360 version(or ps3).Console is designed for those who want fun and High-end gaming as well.PC is only suitable for playing the games like "Dota",and all those chinese online gaming which dont need high-end graphics.
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You have to be joking right? What graphics card are you using to play COD4 on a PC. I'm using 8800gt and the graphics is superior than PS3.

For your info, I've a PS3 and I have the original copy of COD4 on PS3 but I sold it an bought the PC version instead. To say that PC is only suitable for games like Dota or all those chinese online games is an ultimate insult to pc gamers.

It all depends on what type of games you're playing. If you're interested in online, strategy or FPS, PC is a better choice. I do admit that the next gen console have equivalent or sometimes better graphics than some PC games, esp. MGS4 (wow!!!!) but if the port to PC is properly done, eg. games such as Gears or Wars, Mass Effect, etc. the graphics is much more better than the console version.

Anyway, this is a stupid thread. This type of thread will pop out once in awhile. If not console vs pc, its Xbox vs PS or Nds vs PSP, etc.

Its like comparing your d ick is bigger than my d ick. There's no answer. As long as you are satisfied, whats the use of comparing.


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PS3 is the best. rclxms.gif Its got to be the best base on what you read from the PS3 forum in LYN

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no need to compare la just buy 360,ps3 and pc walla complete u can play all the titles available hehehe.
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I think if you wanna compare the performance .... the best is to compare the date. Compare PS3, XBOX 360 and Wii according to their release date with the same PC parts. Its not fair to compare those console to today's Nvidia GTX 280 right?. Thats because PC parts are getting faster and faster every year.
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Awesome i 2 facing the same problems . Well from my point of view both this machines are different in every way , both has its pros and cons u may say PC wastes money on upgrades but look at ps3 200 bucks per game lets say u buy a game a month that would mean 200X6month= RM1200 .
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mana ada game BD utk PC. PS3 saja. rclxms.gif
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I prefer next gen console. I don't want to spend money to upgrade graphic card every 6 months.
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QUOTE(hiroshi @ Oct 12 2008, 09:24 AM)
I prefer next gen console. I don't want to spend money to upgrade graphic card every 6 months.
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huarghhhhh.....
pc?

graphic card to match console alone can buy a ps3 or xbox360. and it's not really lasts for 10yrs.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Oct 4 2008, 02:11 PM)
You have to be joking right? What graphics card are you using to play COD4 on a PC. I'm using 8800gt and the graphics is superior than PS3.

For your info, I've a PS3 and I have the original copy of COD4 on PS3 but I sold it an bought the PC version instead. To say that PC is only suitable for games like Dota or all those chinese online games is an ultimate insult to pc gamers.

It all depends on what type of games you're playing. If you're interested in online, strategy or FPS, PC is a better choice. I do admit that the next gen console have equivalent or sometimes better graphics than some PC games, esp. MGS4 (wow!!!!) but if the port to PC is properly done, eg. games such as Gears or Wars, Mass Effect, etc. the graphics is much more better than the console version.

Anyway, this is a stupid thread. This type of thread will pop out once in awhile. If not console vs pc, its Xbox vs PS or Nds vs PSP, etc.

Its like comparing your d ick is bigger than my d ick. There's no answer. As long as you are satisfied, whats the use of comparing.
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PC gaming cost is DAMN EXPENSIVE... newer PC games obsolete your PC hardware about every 6 months if u demand full eye candy from the game... e.g Crysis.

The only reason going to make me to upgrade my pc is:
Starcraft2 and DIABLO3!!!
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Everything else: Console (although PC is catching up with some good examples like DMC4 port...great with XBOX360 controller...looks better than PS3 version).

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No point la....

Why compare PC with consoles. One question, can your xbox360/ps3 do photoshop?? sweat.gif

No la.... doh.gif

Fin cool2.gif

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Comparing Consoles vs PC is like comparing:
Gamepad vs (Gamepad+Keyboard+Mouse)
hard-to-send for Warranty vs Easy-to-send for warranty
Exclusive titles + do everything else 'basically' vs 'I just want to play games'+ do everything else perfectly
Fixed static system with some games have chugging frame rate vs customizable all the way to hell till u broke just to play new beautiful high requirement games
Games cheat limitation vs 'Trainers' anyone [for loser]
Overprice Proprietary accessory vs Lotsa option with wide price range accessories
FPS using gamepad vs FPS using keyboard+mouse (u decide)

Choose platform based on what games u want to play:
~I play both




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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 12 2008, 09:26 PM)
PC gaming cost is DAMN EXPENSIVE... newer PC games obsolete your PC hardware about every 6 months if u demand full eye candy from the game... e.g Crysis.

The only reason going to make me to upgrade my pc is:
Starcraft2 and DIABLO3!!!
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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Oct 14 2008, 04:02 PM)
No point la....

Why compare PC with consoles. One question, can your xbox360/ps3 do photoshop??  sweat.gif

No la.... doh.gif


Fin cool2.gif
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Does keyboard & mouse has vibration feature?


No la .. whistling.gif



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High-end consoles: Games Specialist

PC: jack of all trades, master of none.

So, superior in what factor?
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Ferrari or Kancil more powerfull... hmmm
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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Oct 15 2008, 10:43 AM)
Ferrari or Kancil more powerfull... hmmm
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Kancil meh..

easy to park & the best feature of all....making other people curse when finding parking laugh.gif
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The Consoles are around 2 years old already. Even midrange PC's are more powerful now. Look at the Graphic Card industry, cards are dirt cheap now. For RM400-RM500 you can get a decent card capable of playing Crysis at the highest settings.

Games were meant for the PC anyway, they started from the PC. Without the PC, there wont be games. Not to mention the fact that Consoles are basically just PC's especially the XBox which is an X86 based processor.

The Xbox360 still costs a bomb now RM1.2K around there. With that amount no doubt you can sufficiently upgrade your current PC to match the best that are out there.

So there is no competition.
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post Oct 15 2008, 11:08 AM

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You wanna fight, does your controller have more than 14 buttons, no la!!!! mad.gif

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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Oct 15 2008, 11:08 AM)
You wanna fight, does your controller have more than 14 buttons, no la!!!! mad.gif

Just kidding tongue.gif
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LOL, Xbox Controller got mini-keyboard brows.gif
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post Oct 15 2008, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Oct 15 2008, 11:14 AM)
LOL, Xbox Controller got mini-keyboard brows.gif
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QUOTE(RViN @ Oct 15 2008, 10:56 AM)
The Consoles are around 2 years old already. Even midrange PC's are more powerful now. Look at the Graphic Card industry, cards are dirt cheap now. For RM400-RM500 you can get a decent card capable of playing Crysis at the highest settings.

Games were meant for the PC anyway, they started from the PC. Without the PC, there wont be games. Not to mention the fact that Consoles are basically just PC's especially the XBox which is an X86 based processor.

The Xbox360 still costs a bomb now RM1.2K around there. With that amount no doubt you can sufficiently upgrade your current PC to match the best that are out there.

So there is no competition.
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1.5K for a blu ray player,wifi enabled media center
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500 bucks for just the graphics card.

not forgetting the RAM,OS,HDD,etc..

if you want to go the pirate way,then definitely pc is cheaper (assuming you're more than fine not upgrading anytime soon)
go original,and consoles are not only cheaper,but less headache too.(pc=incompatibility issues,driver issues,patch problems,etc= rclxub.gif )

besides,not everyone leaves their pc in the living room,but the console sits snug right there.

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Oct 15 2008, 12:58 PM)
I am already happy with my PC, can Open Office, can rip MP3s, can surf the web, can view 3gp brows.gif
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aduh doh.gif
dude..google la higher quality version..

tu ps3 ada boleh tengok HD punya la icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Oct 15 2008, 01:05 PM)
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE
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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Oct 15 2008, 11:08 AM)
You wanna fight, does your controller have more than 14 buttons, no la!!!! mad.gif

Just kidding tongue.gif
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for the sake of argument:

did you use 14 button to play games on PC?

No la!! tongue.gif


common button for PC Gaming:
3 mouse button + WASDE + CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + SPACE BAR


still short 1 key tongue.gif




hehehe....j/k.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Oct 15 2008, 01:07 PM)
aaaahh...ok..
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I don't see what's the point of comparing. The kinds of games that come out tend to be different too, which is why there's so many in this topic claiming superiority of one over the other.

Hardware aside, think about it. PCs are a lot more up close and personal, whereas consoles tend to be more relaxed (living rooms?). Not to mention ergonomics and all that, and you've got two mediums that are not in direct competition.

People end up making certain types of games for PC and certain types of games for

However, I will say this. I believe PC works out better than console (assuming you can get a decenp comp) as you can game very well on PC on top of everything else. You can even get gamepads/sticks to help with your gaming experience and can probably use it down the line for all sorts of current games, emus and such. HOwever, how much use would a console player get out of a keyboard/mouse setup?

Also, keep in mind that most versions of games that appear on both PCs and consoles favour PCs in some way or other. Mods, tweaks, downloadable content...lately it's been getting better for consoles (UT3 cooking for both PC and console), but for the most part PC versions tend to be better in that sense.

To everyone saying you need to upgrade all the time, not so. A good graphics card can last you for 3-5 years, depending, which is pretty good, considering that a good grapihcs card can produce better graphics than consoles for the most part, and if you played teh console counterpart you wouldn't be playing at the best settings anyway, just the best settings that the console can handle (which for the most part isn't up to par with PC).*

* I realise the graphics card is not necessarily the only thing when it comes to price (compatibility and such) but I'm just saying that the whole have to upgrade every year thing is a myth, unless you absolutely need all of the best features all the time.

PS - Let's not forget game choice. For everyone that says "All the good games are on console" keep in mind that ergonomics and all the other factors I mentioned come into play. How many good RTS are there for console? Similarly, how many good fighting games are there for PC? Depends on what you want.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that consoles are easy to set up and use. However, keep note that sometimes the console manufacturers try to ram something down your throat too, and that also costs money (most recently, I'm annoyed by the Wii and their higher sensitivity control thingamajig).

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if comparing based on gaming i vote for Console, to play a new games on pc , almost need to upgrade ur pc every year. PC got many issue too sometime, like driver or even windows itself cause problem to the game.

but for RTS game still goes to pc, just cant play tat without a mouse and keyboard. haha
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Oct 15 2008, 12:29 PM)
1.5K for a blu ray player,wifi enabled media center
VS
500 bucks for just the graphics card.

not forgetting the RAM,OS,HDD,etc..

if you want to go the pirate way,then definitely pc is cheaper (assuming you're more than fine not upgrading anytime soon)
go original,and consoles are not only cheaper,but less headache too.(pc=incompatibility issues,driver issues,patch problems,etc= rclxub.gif )

besides,not everyone leaves their pc in the living room,but the console sits snug right there.
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That's not really true. Original PC games cost much more cheaper than console games. Take a look at COD4. PC versions maximum only costs only around RM160/- when it first come out. Xbox 360 & PS3 version costs around RM200/-. Furthermore, the online capabilities of PC version is superior with mods, etc.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Oct 15 2008, 12:29 PM)
1.5K for a blu ray player,wifi enabled media center
VS
500 bucks for just the graphics card.

not forgetting the RAM,OS,HDD,etc..

if you want to go the pirate way,then definitely pc is cheaper (assuming you're more than fine not upgrading anytime soon)
go original,and consoles are not only cheaper,but less headache too.(pc=incompatibility issues,driver issues,patch problems,etc= rclxub.gif )

besides,not everyone leaves their pc in the living room,but the console sits snug right there.
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You forgot you need another RM3K for a HD TV set to play and even the the resolution is only 1080P max
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Superior is subjective. What games do u actually want to play will determine what is "superior". If you're an MMO freak then yes PC is superior. You want to play console exclusive then you'd be out of your mind to agree that PC is "superior".

Which platform is superior?

It's a flawed question if u ask me.
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Currently, I play PC GAMES because:
Neverwinter Nights 2, Spellforce 2, The House of the Dead 3, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, The Witcher Enhanced, Command &Conquer 3, Red Alert 3 (pre-order already -RTS is best played on PC), Starcraft 2 (a must buy), Diablo 3 (also a must buy), Alien shooter: Vengeance, Company of Heroes, World in Conflict......

Currently, I play Xbox 360 games because:
HALO 3, Gears of War (PC version is better looking tho'), Lost Odyssey, Forza 2, Borne's Conspiracy, Dead Space (played better using gamepad), GTA IV, Ace Combat, Dead or Alive IV, Soul Calibur IV, Virtua Tennis 3, Fable II......

Which one is more superior?........ I don't give a DAMN!
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i give a damn because the more superior one saves me money. i don't give a damn to upgrade pc every 2 years just because intel and nvidia want to make more money. so console more superior. screw the pc.

 

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