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post Dec 8 2007, 02:36 PM

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u already know the answer

"is this kind of guy husband-to-be?"

when u start a realationship, to have it a serious one, think of marrige in it, means imagining him being ur husband. but if u imagine him being ur husband happily, then u have move one step towards a better relationship.

but if u can imagine him as ur husband, wats the purpose of persuing this relationship?? his not responsible, and immature, is this wat u expect for ur marrige?? and its about time u break and find a new one.

its hard but hey, not everbody meet their mr.right in first few tries right???
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post Dec 8 2007, 02:40 PM

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he seems to be childish. he need more experience to be a better guy
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seems someone that i knoe have the same story as u
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post Dec 8 2007, 03:28 PM

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This is going to sound harsh but your bf sounds like a grade A loser. I've met countless women that have seemingly fallen in love with similar grade of men and it's beyond logic why they so into them. One way of looking at it is he's really insecure because of his current financial standing. When a man feels he cannot provide for his woman, it affects his pride. He feels useless and therefore sees a potential threat in every other man who is financially stable and able to provide his woman with a sense of security. Another way of looking at it is he's just a 'jerk' as your friends say he is, in which case you'll be better off without him and happier in the long run.
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Hey TS,

This guy is not for you. It's time for you to think hard for your future since u brought up the thought of whether he is husband-to-be of yours next time. Compromise is the key to a healthy relationship, but seems like it's been a one way traffic in most situations as you described above.

It's undeniably sweet, the occasion where you both celebrated your valentine's. It should be assessed that these occasion only comes on special days. However, you shall consider how you would spend the day-to-day chores in the future where you plan to start a family with him. Could you stand his possessive and iron-fisted attitude for the rest of your life?

I don't proclaim myself to understand women enough to satisfy them but the point in a relationship is, no matter you're a man or women, you should find someone who could satisfy your needs physically, mentally or spiritually to make that relationship lasting and balanced.

-Beauty and the Beast is just a fantasy-
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post Dec 8 2007, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(forever21 @ Dec 8 2007, 05:49 AM)
my life journey is juz colorful as i am always surrounded by beautiful friends.
i met my bf in the year of 2006,our relationship was going smoothly for a year
every moment that we spent together was a blessed and happy one,
but in the year of 2007 all starts to change..non-stop of arguements!
he becomes like a jealous monster,just like want me to stick to him 24/7,
he don't like me to hang out with my friends & call me to end all relationship with guys' friends.its impossible rite??!
he said its already more than enough to have him one and only in life...omg..
he deleted most of my friends contact number,especially when he see guys name..this is rude rite?!yet i be patient..
he even call me to change to a new number,so that my friends unable to contact me!
of course i won't change!!then he accused me for waiting some Mr.Right to call me. *faint*
-ok tell u all till here about the jealous part-

-come into another part-
he is working while i am studying,
in the year of 2007 he is always broke,sometimes i even give him pocket money (i work part time as tuition teacher)..
i don't count so much with him..as what is always in my mind is i love him.besides,his family treat me really nice & good.
ok,u may ask y he is so broke eventhough he is working?well,all starts when he was persuaded to be a guarantor by his friend for money lending,
his friend ran away..so he is the one to responsible! >.<
when his dad knew about this,his dad got really angry n scolded him horribly.he scare his dad the most.
his dad is rich,so his dad paid for the sum of money to the money lender first.but his dad wants him to pay back like montly installment,
uncle told me that he must ask his son to pay back for him to have a lesson in life for being a stupid guarantor for a betrayer.
every college semester break,i will work full of it..all the money will go for him..as to pay back his dad
-ok tell till here-

i have a few friends know about this and they ask y being so stupid!they call him 'jerk'
my friends said i am good looking,doing good in studies,nice to friends...but y become so stupid to love this 'jerk'
they said more better guys are waiting for me.wake up!wake up!wake up,my dear!!
*try to put urself into others shoes,if u feel it is pain,it probably hurts the person too*
yea,i know i am stupid!but my heart will become soft when i see him..thats y i will keep on forgiving him..
a word 'sorry' will be the end for an arguement...
-ok la,tell till here-
i am not complaning..but i feel very miserable..is this the life i want?is this kind of guy husband-to-be?
aaarrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...drive me crazy!



thanks everyone for reading my story of 'a gal who is blind eventhough is blessed with beautiful eyes for loving this guy'
thanks for every thought and comment for whoever gonna post here
~You all are beautiful people~
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U call urself a beauty, and ur BF is a beast.....

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post Dec 8 2007, 08:16 PM

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err i only can see bad point more than good point.....hmmm
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(kuih_tiow @ Dec 8 2007, 06:18 AM)
human is hard to understand
hope eventhough disappointed,
believe eventhough betrayed,
still love eventhough its hurt.
-thanks-


Added on December 9, 2007, 2:50 am
QUOTE(jaycee_oh @ Dec 8 2007, 06:41 AM)
good morning every1.  blush.gif
early morning aledi post it. i'm reading it.  blink.gif
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early..coz i sleep late
its was friday night,i post this after finish my assignment..
=) thanks for reading

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post Dec 9 2007, 02:59 AM

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ur bf is the beauty u r the beasT?
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post Dec 9 2007, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(hatekiasuppl @ Dec 8 2007, 07:02 AM)
reason of him to change into beast:

1.He look down on himself more, because he need your money support to help pay his debt. Everyguy has a pride, if you're my girlfriend i will find part time job myself and wont ask the girl for money.

2. You said you're pretty, clever and quite perfect while he's been label as the jerk. Of course he feel the sense of insecurity, because he know there's lots of lengzai and better guy in your college and you may change heart, since he's turn into a shit after the 2007 guarantor incident.

To solve this, you need to talk to him personally. Assure him you wont change heart and you will help him get through this slump he's facing now.
If he's still so useless, you can just go and find a new one. He's currently treating you like he owns you, which is dangerous because he's too possesive and wants you to follow all the things he wants.
Serious possesive person will tend to beat up the girl if they dont follow what he says.
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i never look down at him.i know the problem that he is facing,so i try my best to help him.
he said sometime he felt very shame to see his parents,for causing them problem for own stupid action,
i understand how he feels,thats y i always be with him whenever he needs me.to give him a listening ears. *actions speak louder than words*
i have talk to him,assured him that he is the only guy in my heart.
maybe he think too much,till i can't understand what he want sometimes..
-anyway,thanks for ur post-


Added on December 9, 2007, 3:34 am
QUOTE(MmxZero @ Dec 8 2007, 09:22 AM)
When time passes, people change.

It's time to move on.

You can do the thinking.
1. You want this person to marry you and control you for the rest of your life? Maybe, he will make you his slave. Who knows.
2. You can tell him how you feel now and see how react to it. If he defends, then his just treating you badly.
3. Avoid you from frens, what kind of bf is that? Y don't you del all his frens and see whether he likes it or not.

I think the best way is confront him and express how you feel that his treating you now. You will get your answer from there.
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yea,its rude to delete ppl friends contact number..who like this?
that time i was so angry,then i scolded him
come on,i need my friends!they are important for me!
maybe that time i was too angry,so i said friends are my priority.he comes 2nd.
n he keeps this word till today...*he should know the fact he is the one my priority as i gave him the best things i could*
-thanks-



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post Dec 9 2007, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(forever21 @ Dec 8 2007, 08:52 AM)
-to be continued-
#the sweet part of him#
*the unforgettable day with him in this year was on 14 Feb (Valentine's Day)
-we went for dinner at Wing's Music Cafe,then he requested to sing on the stage,
he held my hand to the stage,i am seated on a chair there & he was standing holding my hands while singing
'Waiting For You' .. *feel quite paiseh coz alot of people there,mainly couples* but felt very happy la
-end with a hot kiss on stage & everyone was clapping hands.thanks them.
*he always give me surprises
*like to make funny faces
*like to draw me pictures
*his words melt me

#the bitter part of him#
*when he sms me,i must reply him immediately
*when he call me,must answer as soon as possible
-aiya..sometimes when i am busy doing works or i am in class..how to do so?
-then he will get very angry
*when i am talking on the phone with friend,and when the same time he call me 'Call Waiting'...
-ash coming out from his head..he will speak in anger voice..accusing me talk with which guys *headache*
*there was one time,i didn't realize that he call me coz my hp was in silent mode..got 10 missed calls
-he got hot-tempered again..ask y dont bother to answer his call
-coz of 10 missed calls,he shouted 'You Go Die' on the phone.. *it hurts* *i cried during my class presentation*
*whenever he feels jealous of something,he will straight away hang up the phone *faint* *i tot oni gal will do this*
*when go shopping,if I talk to promoter even is a female promoter,his face will turn black (Justice Pao)..
*i will cook him his favourite food once a week,lets say i am busy not manage to do so..he won't talk to me,say I don't love him anymore *coma*
ladies always say man should pay for everything.sounds gentleman.
i don't mind to pay some times,as i am not a calculative person..especially with the special one
when i know he is run out of money,i will offer to pay..
when i see his wallet is empty,i will put some into it
-u all sure will ask y am i so silly - galfriend turn to be boyfriend-
Power of love?silly blind gal?l
-miserable-
thanks for spending time reading,
You all are beautiful people~
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i used to be like that
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post Dec 9 2007, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(iKen @ Dec 8 2007, 09:35 AM)
Give time but be a little strict and stand up!
What you don't like, you have to tell him now. Let him take his time to change.
If he can't change accordingly, he will always stay as beast in your heart and never gonna transform into a prince.

In my opinion, I think you have found someone you loved very much.
Although you called him beast, you are still seeing all the beautiful thing inside him.

After all:
"Love isn't finding a PERFECT person. It's seeing an IMPERFECT person perfectly."
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yeap,i will..
i love him,thats y i can see the beautiful things inside him
eventhough sometimes he hurts my heart,but i din hate him
-anyway,thanks for ur post..i like your words-


Added on December 9, 2007, 3:44 am
QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 9 2007, 03:39 AM)
i used to be like that
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wow,he has a bro now.haha..
so,how r u now?have u change?
-thanks-
=) have a nice day


Added on December 9, 2007, 3:49 am
QUOTE(CooLeRthings @ Dec 8 2007, 09:46 AM)
y u din talk personaly to him?
u shudn't only complain here
u shud discuss all this issue with him together

this is wat u can do for best so far
hoping him to change to a better person
but... if he stay like tat....u can leave him, try imagain 10 years after from now if he still have the same attitude?
u deserve better, most of the gals are

the swt thing u talk bout him, lot of guys can do so
but the bitter part, if guys tat loves u, they mostly wont do tat
over protective act is too childish in a relationship, beeing not reasonable...

talk to him 1st, discuss the matter, then u come back here to tell us how he react during the discussion.
dun worry n scare to discuss with him, coz i found tat most gal scare to discuss this kinda matter with the loves 1...
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wow..sounds like a good counsellor.. *2 thumbs up*
anyway,i dun scare him,sometimes when i am too angry i will be a tiger bite him back.
alrite,keep updates..
-thanks-

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post Dec 9 2007, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(forever21 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:39 AM)
yeap,i will..
i love him,thats y i can see the beautiful things inside him
eventhough sometimes he hurts my heart,but i din hate him
-anyway,thanks for ur post..i like your words-


Added on December 9, 2007, 3:44 am
wow,he has a bro now.haha..
so,how r u now?have u change?
-thanks-
=) have a nice day


Added on December 9, 2007, 3:49 am
wow..sounds like a good counsellor.. *2 thumbs up*
anyway,i dun scare him,sometimes when i am too angry i will be a tiger bite him back.
alrite,keep updates..
-thanks-
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i'm not sure i get insecure easily but i am not so extreme like your ex la i just dont like her seeing other guys only

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post Dec 9 2007, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(stormyz @ Dec 8 2007, 10:14 AM)
sometimes.. u just have to let go something precious to u...
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sometime in life we din get thing the way we wanted,
but we gain extra knowledge others always wanted..
-thanks-

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post Dec 9 2007, 03:56 AM

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But TS's bf is going one step too much, deleting your friends contact is really rude IMHO.

Like someone suggested, you wanna gv him a taste of his own medicine? brows.gif

Thing is people have to learn from mistakes. It's not the matter of how bad the mistake is but you gotta learn from it. It doesn't seems to me your bf is 'learning' the right things.
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if i dont like my ex contact with the other guy i just tell her how i feel
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post Dec 9 2007, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 9 2007, 03:51 AM)
i'm not sure i get insecure easily but i am not so extreme like your ex la i just dont like her seeing other guys only
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he is my bf,not ex
not so extreme,u r better..hehe
guys are like this.they can see girls,but their girl cannot see guys.. *sweat*
when other guys c their girl,they like wanna dig ppl's eyes out.. haha


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:05 am
QUOTE(vey99 @ Dec 8 2007, 10:55 AM)
TS, TS, TS... you are not a puppet. The fact that you can create an ID and start this thread means you are human capable of independent thought.

But no.... you want to pack your bags, say goodbye to ur family and friends and move into his place. Sever all ties with the outside world and serve him and only him.

By the way,
BAD GUYS - 39053, GOOD GUYS - 0.
Can the gooders catch up a little please?
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ya,u r rite.gonna catch up..
-thanks-


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:09 am
QUOTE(beelzebob13 @ Dec 8 2007, 01:32 PM)
TS, from your story, let me summarize:

good beginning until money problem because of betrayer.

this is a guess: your bf is very stressed because of money problem, and because of that he thinks he'll loose you because he is unable to "support" a gf, you. he's scared that some better off guy will lure you away - he cuts you off from your friends - in the only limited way he knows how. this is a big neon sign saying he is in a desperate situation. some ppl don't perform well under stress. some ppl break. some ppl do all sorts of drastic and harmful things to themselves and to others, including ppl they care about.

i think you are quite an understanding person. but. but you cannot just let him take over you completely. things may go smoother for a while but in the long run who knows. you might consider hinting, or be completely direct, that you are on his side about a few things he is worried about. in this way he might revert to the original unbeastly person?
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i am impressed to read ur post,sounds professional.
keep updates
thanks alot..


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:19 am
QUOTE(7chai @ Dec 8 2007, 02:35 PM)
no1 is perfect, but if u able to look at his good then please accept his bad. And dun become such a good person to him, if 1 day u left him, he might go kill himself. So the conclusion is, dun always folo his order just do what u like which is reasonable and when he get angry for tiny reason just tell him that, accept this or get lost.
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arr?accept his bad??
i dun expect him to change from bad -> best..at least good is edi enuff for me
yea,u r rite.if being too good for someone,will make the person depends much on you.once u r disappeared,the person will be in mess.
-thanks-


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:23 am
QUOTE(bebee @ Dec 8 2007, 02:49 PM)
seems someone that i knoe have the same story as u
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ooo,really..
i would like to know her,share story *smile*
-have a nice day-


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:36 am
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 8 2007, 03:28 PM)
This is going to sound harsh but your bf sounds like a grade A loser. I've met countless women that have seemingly fallen in love with similar grade of men and it's beyond logic why they so into them. One way of looking at it is he's really insecure because of his current financial standing. When a man feels he cannot provide for his woman, it affects his pride. He feels useless and therefore sees a potential threat in every other man who is financially stable and able to provide his woman with a sense of security. Another way of looking at it is he's just a 'jerk' as your friends say he is, in which case you'll be better off without him and happier in the long run.
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thanks,i like your post..
yea,there is once when i read magazine.. i said nowaday more gals prefer to marry older guy,
then he said those gals marry older guy coz of money..
sounds jealous edi..n he ask ' r u interested to be 1 of the gal oso?if u love money,u should go for older guys oso..then u will leave me this poor guy'


Added on December 9, 2007, 4:55 am
QUOTE(alchemisT @ Dec 8 2007, 07:31 PM)
Hey TS,

This guy is not for you. It's time for you to think hard for your future since u brought up the thought of whether he is husband-to-be of yours next time. Compromise is the key to a healthy relationship, but seems like it's been a one way traffic in most situations as you described above.

It's undeniably sweet, the occasion where you both celebrated your valentine's. It should be assessed that these occasion only comes on special days. However, you shall consider how you would spend the day-to-day chores in the future where you plan to start a family with him. Could you stand his possessive and iron-fisted attitude for the rest of your life?

I don't proclaim myself to understand women enough to satisfy them but the point in a relationship is, no matter you're a man or women, you should find someone who could satisfy your needs physically, mentally or spiritually to make that relationship lasting and balanced.

-Beauty and the Beast is just a fantasy-
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husband-to-be..i ask this question coz i wanna know which type of guy r people gonna labelled as 'husband-to-be'
of course i dun wanna get marry so fast..marriage is juz once in a life time,it determines how good/average/bad for the rest of a gal's life
sometimes i am wondering how is others gal's bf..how r they behaving..
-thanks for ur thoughts,its great-


Added on December 9, 2007, 5:03 am
QUOTE(wangpr @ Dec 8 2007, 08:16 PM)
U call urself a beauty, and ur BF is a beast.....

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juz a thread title..
i am not perfect,so i am not qualified to call ppl beast
=) thanks

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post Dec 9 2007, 05:09 AM

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Ah wow, looking at your story, it seems pretty clear in your heart what you wanted from your your relationship already, though you might not notice it.

If you don't mind, a little advice:

Sometimes its not easy to understand what the other is going through which might lead to them treating thy badly ie. in your case the jealousy and other bad treatments. Possibly he might be under pressure from having to pay back his father (although theres much to blame on his friend who ran away from him). So, in that short period of time, was betrayed by a friend and got hounded by a father (probably is pretty strict and meneacing would be how I would imagine). I'd guess that the only thing left meaningful to him would be his loved one - you, the gf. And in some fear of losing you, the jealousy erupts.

I'd suggest to see if my theory backs-up by looking to see if it fits to your story. Like say this jealousy/bad treatment thing happened prior to his friend's betrayal and such.

Arguments sometimes help to fuel a good relationship, but it only works when the couple work them out in a proper way. If its non-stop arguments without anything being solved, then the relationship isn't really getting anywhere either.

You did mention that you are good looking, smart and I'd guess, popular too. That would make him feel a little insecure, well, who wouldn't really? However, his actions are a little overboard to the extreme. But thats where trust building comes in. A relationship without trust usually don't work out.

It seems that you truly love this guy, compromising much and would go so far to an open forum to let out the burden.

From what you like of him (mind you I can only judge from what you have written) he seems to be quite good with charming the hearts. I hope this isn't blinding you in seeing a real him. Again, I don't know this guy, I can only judge from what I have read.

I suggest you sit down and talk to him seriously about the relationship, I believe it could go far if the hearts are set right. But a loved one shouldn't be hurting the other and should be considering the other's feelings. If he can't do that, I really suggest(im saying this word a little too much sleep.gif) splitting roads. Saying "you go die" is really really harsh. You have mentioned a number of things you compromised with, perhaps thinking of the things he has compromised for you too, would help.

But that is my brand of love, if one cannot provide the care and love for the other, then there is no point being together any longer. Trust and compromises should go both ways. However, its still up to yourself to decide what you want, its clear that you are suffering but is it clear to him? Is he making an effort to make you happy? You are trying to make him happy by compromising.

Its going to be hard and whatever decisions you might choose upon will probably be hard, but stand hard and headstrong and anyone can make it out.

Hope this helps, good luck and all the best!

edit: forgot to mention that you need to stand ground on your beliefs and happiness. Let him know how you feel, don't let one bully you/take advantage either. You mentioned a lot of your compromises but not really much of his, or is he not really compromising at all? Everyone is capable of changing, so don't lose hope on everything either, he could change for the better.

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QUOTE(vermins @ Dec 9 2007, 05:09 AM)
Ah wow, looking at your story, it seems pretty clear in your heart what you wanted from your your relationship already, though you might not notice it.

If you don't mind, a little advice:

Sometimes its not easy to understand what the other is going through which might lead to them treating thy badly ie. in your case the jealousy and other bad treatments.  Possibly he might be under pressure from having to pay back his father (although theres much to blame on his friend who ran away from him).  So, in that short period of time, was betrayed by a friend and got hounded by a father (probably is pretty strict and meneacing would be how I would imagine).  I'd guess that the only thing left meaningful to him would be his loved one - you, the gf.  And in some fear of losing you, the jealousy erupts.

I'd suggest to see if my theory backs-up by looking to see if it fits to your story.  Like say this jealousy/bad treatment thing happened prior to his friend's betrayal and such.

Arguments sometimes help to fuel a good relationship, but it only works when the couple work them out in a proper way.  If its non-stop arguments without anything being solved, then the relationship isn't really getting anywhere either.

You did mention that you are good looking, smart and I'd guess, popular too.  That would make him feel a little insecure, well, who wouldn't really?  However, his actions are a little overboard to the extreme.  But thats where trust building comes in.  A relationship without trust usually don't work out.

It seems that you truly love this guy, compromising much and would go so far to an open forum to let out the burden. 

From what you like of him (mind you I can only judge from what you have written) he seems to be quite good with charming the hearts.  I hope this isn't blinding you in seeing a real him.  Again, I don't know this guy, I can only judge from what I have read.

I suggest you sit down and talk to him seriously about the relationship, I believe it could go far if the hearts are set right.  But a loved one shouldn't be hurting the other and should be considering the other's feelings.  If he can't do that, I really suggest(im saying this word a little too much sleep.gif) splitting roads.  Saying "you go die" is really really harsh.  You have mentioned a number of things you compromised with, perhaps thinking of the things he has compromised for you too, would help.

But that is my brand of love, if one cannot provide the care and love for the other, then there is no point being together any longer.  Trust and compromises should go both ways.  However, its still up to yourself to decide what you want, its clear that you are suffering but is it clear to him?  Is he making an effort to make you happy? You are trying to make him happy by compromising. 

Its going to be hard and whatever decisions you might choose upon will probably be hard, but stand hard and headstrong and anyone can make it out. 

Hope this helps, good luck and all the best!

edit: forgot to mention that you need to stand ground on your beliefs and happiness.  Let him know how you feel, don't let one bully you/take advantage either.  You mentioned a lot of your compromises but not really much of his, or is he not really compromising at all? Everyone is capable of changing, so don't lose hope on everything either, he could change for the better.
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hi vermins,
i would like to thanks u from the bottom of my heart
thanks for ur effort n precious time,i appreciate it alot n will keep full of it in my heart .
u r such a great ,nice & understanding person
i would like to have a friend like you
=) God bless you


stormyz
post Dec 9 2007, 05:50 AM

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u probably have your own decision .. the onli thing is u not dare to go for it..

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