Do you play your Wii more often than you play 360 or PS3? Is it funner, in your opinion, than 360 or PS3? I'm asking here because I'm also thinking picking up a new console but still deciding over gameplay or graphics.

coolness graphic, i go for xbox 360, but my member vote for ps3..

Which console's games attract you the most?

I only hv the wii n the nds..so I can't give a really clear view. I actually like to own all of them But since my wallet can only settle for wii now and it's pretty much lean towards me picking up my lazy ass n do some physical work and also hv the least prob n requirement at the moment.

But like I stated earlier, if u hv the budget, get them all...if not...choose first whichever comes to mine...if u want visually stunning, there's 360 n ps3....if u wanna try something diff for a change...go for wii. n yes...browse thru n decide...which platform hv the most games u'd like to get ur hands on.

its hard to say la
but it all depends on the game
previously my wii started to collect dust already after wii sports..
then suddenly mario galaxy came out.. and i never stopped playing since!

wow, still asking ar?
cant make up ur own mind ar?

online multiplayer

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Added on December 8, 2007, 10:59 amhey kid, its you again.
go buy yourself and ipod lah

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Dec 8 2007, 10:59 AM

maybe the question to yourself is do you wanna play game? if yes what kinda game? then only start to look for which console is right for you.

some ppl like wii, but after 30min game time, they say it is tiring to play and just discard the wii.

its all about own self enjoyment.

I hate indecisivenes!! do research in Google and look for relevant videos in Youtube, i don't think it's necessary just to create this thread, a lot of this kind of thread already started. pls browse..

best idea ever.congratz smiley !

Get a NES!!

You guys like to hijack my thread, spam shit. Go away, your opinion does not matter here.

see, how do you expect ppl to respect and help you if you talk cock like this?

What's the point if I already told you politely to back off and you're still at it?

whatever dude, i dont think you're that stupid to even figure it out by now.
ipod or 360? owh ok 360, but wait? wii , ps3 or 360?

This is for someone that didnt know what happened.
sadly i cant find your V2 thread, i wonder why it got deleted.

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Dec 9 2007, 11:32 AM

go get ipod...dont mess with ur study lah bdk skolah.

.... How come some 1 compare 360 wif ipod touch.... Now come n compare wii, 360 and ps3....

Later will compare 360 wif sony ericsson P1...

After then compare wif toyota vios...

This post has been edited by roticanai: Dec 9 2007, 10:15 PM

seriously for me nintendo ds and psp is the bestest console ever , i oredi campak my 360 dy...lama dah tak main,2 weeks to be exact..

psp = kawan ramai ada psp , boleh main wireless
nintendo ds = pun ramai kawan ada , boleh main wireless setiap minggu

They can give all their opinions until the cows come home and the farmer close down the barn door but in the end the only opinion that matters is your own in this matter. They're not the ones who will be playing, you are.

So what if the rest of the world likes this console or the other one, if you feel the wii will give you what you are looking for in games, then go for it.

I personally own the ps3 now. No turning back. Sure others may say stuff like oh got no backup games lah, games so expensive lah, but in the end it is what I want and I am willing to accept all that comes with it, be it good or bad.

PS3

Why?
-Free online multiplayer.
-Built-in BD player.

.....nuff said.

go for ps3 or wii. im also considering between these 2.

go for ps3 lah...ps3 need more supporter,

PS3 and xbox360.......Wii so suck for hardcore gamers like me hahahhaha

Hmm, what is "hardcore gamers" means?

Please enlighten us.

I'm sorry if i hurt some one feeling, fan or a group here. Just from my small opinion and resources such as games magazine that i read bfor There already mention there target gamers for certain console.Nintendo did mention that Wii is more for casual gamers and family environment. Nuthing wrong with that and it fun anyway i do own DS and i love it sumtimes

Since you ask the definition of hard core gamers:
"Hardcore gamer is a term used to describe a type of video game player whose leisure time is largely devoted to playing or reading about video games. This type of gamer prefers to take significant time and practice on games, in contrast to a casual gamer. Many hardcore gamers pride themselves on mastering the rules or use of a game, although this is not a strict requirement."

resource from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_gamer
hehe copy paste the definition of it keke

This post has been edited by devilfedora81: Dec 12 2007, 03:15 PM

true hardcore gamers knows most, if not all games that are nominated for game of the year award, they usually tend to be especially good at one or more genre of games. They know release dates for games that they want. They respect copyright, owns original copies of games that they really like, knows the names of some game developers, among other things.

Thanks for the add on dude stay kewl ya

So if i spent 8 hours daily playing Mario Galaxy trying to colelct all 120 stars thats qualify me as Hardcore gamers lah.

Edited: So how come Wii is so suck for hardcore gamers then? Even Will owners "they usually tend to be especially good at one or more genre of games. They know release dates for games that they want. They respect copyright, owns original copies of games that they really like, knows the names of some game developers, among other things." as mentioned by slickzs

This post has been edited by corez: Dec 12 2007, 03:34 PM

Ya mario kewl game it show that u are mario hard core fan then
Better you ask nintendo because there are the one who label their product as for casual gamers cheer up man i also plan to buy Wii as i love to collect console

Maybe because there are more casual gamers in the world and it shows by the rate both DS and Wii are selling around da world. Nintendo does not label Wii/DS as a product for casual gamers. What they did is that they expand their market to capture the casual market and also not depriving their "hardcore gamers" with the release on Metroid Corruption, Mario Galaxy and Zelda Twilight Princess. Those 3 gamers mentioned will take countless hours if you want to complete the game fully (Which should be good for any so called "hardcore gamers" to own).

Anyway this is just my opinion and I live through the 8 bit & 16 bit era with Mario. (SONIC SUXORS)

Hope more AAA game title such as zelda, metroid etc...will come to Wii and less crap game from third party developer. Well not to mention that i live since atari era

Anyway can i join ur nintendo fan club?

i 2nd to that...

And I thought we had a good discussions going on.

On the third party stuff, there are good/great games from them but I lazy to list it out (I'm sure you being a "hardcore gamer" can search on the internet yourself). More third party are coming and bringing their A game such as Capcom (Monster Hunter 3). As Wii keep on outselling both the rival systems every month, more third party will come and support it. Its just that they are doing the waiting game ATM.

An if you have been living throught the atari era, you should know that when a system is currently on top, third party tends to flock it and as a result it will end with more crap than good games. This is true with the Atari's (The infamous ET game), Nintendo's and the Playstation's.

On joining my club, are you sure your current "Hardcore Club" allows it as I thought their motto is Ninty Suxors!!.

Edited: Anyway, I thought the TS asked current Wii AND 360/PS3 owners to give their constructive opinion. Seeing someone who doesn't own both but ends up posting bashing comment is not constructive in my opinion.

This post has been edited by corez: Dec 12 2007, 05:16 PM

Omg, I almost choked on my tea drink... LOL

Hardcore gamer should choose Wii ,some of you might ask why?reason pls??(go google and type Why hardcore gamers should choose Wii )

That may be true, as you know i have a Wii as well and im a hardcore gamer...i even play with both the PS3 guys and 360 guys best i can....but i can tell you...the Wii is not the hardcore gamers machine..Most hardcore gamers have been gaming for years...i have been gaming for about 15 years...that means that they have been exposed to franchises that they care about like MGS, Tekken, DOA, Virtual Fighter, Halo....also hardcore gamers enjoy games that has plenty of action...The Wii..hardly has any action games when compared to the 360 and PS3.

I know that Mario Galaxies is very addictive and can be considered a hardcore game, the fact is out of the Wii's lineup..only Mario and few other titles are targeted to the hardcore, the rest are targeted to the casuals...

I mean no offense but lets have a comparison shall we?

GTA 4: release for 360 and PS3....for hardcore gamers
Mass Effect: release for 360...for hardcore gamers
HAZE: release for PS3...for hardcore gamers
Assassins Creed: release for PS3 and 360...for hardcore gamers
Unreal Tournament 3: release for PS3 and 360...for hardcore gamers
Gears of War...360...hardcore gamers...
Mario Galaxy:...Wii...hardcore gamers
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles: Wii...hardcore gamers
Metroid prime 3: Wii...hardcore gamers
Manhunt 2...hardcore...Wii and PS2
Now..

Wii Sports...casual gamers
WiiFit...Casual gamers
Rayman Raving Rabbids...casual gamers
Jenga...casual gamers
Brain Age Wii...casual gamers
Wii Play..casual gamers
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics...casual gamers
Cooking Mama..casual gamers
mySims...casual gamers

as you can tell the overwhelming majority of casual games belong to the Wii...also the Wii is missing several hardcore titles such as GTA..

once again this is my view, im not attacking the Wii at all... i have lots of fun with Mario and Umbrella CHronicles...and Rabbids 2

Yes, they did....several times... maybe not the DS since it has several hardcore games that any hardcore gamer like myself love....CONTRA 4? The best DS game in my opinion...

Got Wii, DS, 360 and all the old gen stuff. DS is my portable buddy (Planet Puzzle League FTW!), bring it whenever I travel for work. Wii is great when you have friends over who don't play games and I only really play the awesome Nintendo games on my Wii (latest Mario Galaxy, if not it collects dust). 360 is my main one as there are plenty of great games and of course XBL just makes it a great social experience as well.

This post has been edited by CerebralRogue: Dec 12 2007, 06:22 PM

Sarcasm detected

Ok, btw my original posting (#28, #30 & #33) refers to post #23 "Wii so sux for hardcore gamers" and based on the definition of hardcore gamers in post #25 and #26.

Lets start fresh and see your definition of hardcore gamers:

-"Most hardcore gamers have been gaming for years"- Yeah, that maybe true. Even better if we can find annecdotal evidence on that.

-"that means that they have been exposed to franchises that they care about like MGS, Tekken, DOA, Virtual Fighter, Halo"- Funny that you missed out on all the Nintendo franchises, maybe these hardcore gamers start playing games once PS and XBOX came out and not before. Oh BTW you missed out on Final Fantasy franchise which was originally from a Nintendo system before moving to a Playstation.

-"also hardcore gamers enjoy games that has plenty of action"- Yeah, that maybe true. Even better if we can find annecdotal evidence on that. One question though, how about those kids who spent countless hours collecting their Pokemon OR someone who spent hours daily making sure their town are perfect in Animal Crossing. I'm pretty sure they are not casual gamers.

And some other points to ponder.

-"hardly has any action games when compared to the 360 and PS3". There are FPS games coming out now and for example MOH 2 has been touted as having the best FPS experience on any console. Other action are also coming in like No More Heroes, Monster Hunter 3, Dragon Quest Swords, Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia, Ghostbusters and ect

-"Wii is missing several hardcore titles such as GTA". For sandbox kinda games Wii has Godfather and Scarface. In regards to GTA, Take Two has been releasing games such as Table Tennis and Manhunt on Wii. Who knows maybe they will bring the GTA francise to Wii if Wii keeps on selling by the bucketload.

Anyway I still have some grief with Nintendo and their online setup. No voice chat . Friend Code? Nice to meet you Mr 1123-2345-3214.

BTW its good to see that we can have a good discussion and not to resort to name bashing posting like #23 & #31.

Pss. Can you show me the reference where Nintendo mentioned that Wii is for casual

I believe we malaysians can do better than being whiny american kid fanboy who thinks the console they own is the only cool console and that other console they dont own suck. I not saying anybody ar.... just saying only.

This post has been edited by slickz: Dec 12 2007, 08:11 PM

Corez, you provide great rebuttals...

1) First off im sorry for not mentioning the Nintendo franchises...its not out of spite...its just that i forgot sorry. I still remember my Super Mario 3 days on my NES...Absolutely nothing can take that memory away.

What i mean by the casual gamer is that they dont play as long or as hard as we do....the Wii has several games targeted to the casual gamer...

2) it is also interesting that you mentioned No More Heroes as a hardcore title....i agree with you on that...but as you may know it bombed its release in Japan...which is unfortunate to say the least...

3) I knew that Scarface and Godfather was released for the Wii...the thing is that it was also released for the PS2...

Fact is...both games bombed on the Wii...

GODFATHER WII: Sales US
1) 15,871
2) 6,529
3) 3,833

TOTAL AMOUNT: 0.07 million
PS2 sales: 0.81 million...

SCARFACE: Wii US sales: 0.07 million
PS2 sales: 1.01 million...

These sale numbers aint mumbo jumbo either...vgchartz.com

4) Yes, i admit that i is too soon to write the Wii off as a GTA game machine...once again im sorry bout that...


I really lost my respect for the casual crowd after the whole No More Heroes slump...that game looked so good, it always hurts me when a good game like Psychonauts, Beyond Good and Evil and No More Heroes lose out to crap like 50 cent...

ANyway...about the Wii being targeted as a casual gamers machine..

"We're not thinking about fighting Sony, but about how many people we can get to play games. The thing we're thinking about most is not portable systems, consoles, and so forth, but that we want to get new people playing games."

Satoru Iwata...i know it may seem cryptic...but what he's saying is that he wants to let the gaming market grow by including demographics who havent played games.

"Let's face it. The bottom line of every E3 is simple: what's hot and what's not. Here's our take. What's hot is the feel of the game, the look is secondary. What's hot is the next leap, not just a small step. It's hot if it's disruptive, it's not if it's predictable. The future of our industry is inclusion, not exclusion. It's about the heat of emotion, not the chill of technology. We know that the future is right here. Wii and the DS represent the same thing: risk."
Reggie Fils-Aime basically the same thing...increased demographics...

Once again, i would like to say im not attacking the Wii....im just having a polite conversation about casual and hardcores

one more thing...the online support is (without a kinder word)...weak...friend codes...too hard to input..

This post has been edited by Hitman190: Dec 12 2007, 08:49 PM

Firstly, I think we are kinda getting OT ATM.

I hope that TS appreciate our friendly banter rather than any 1 liner garbage post with nothing constructive.

1. With all the release of the games above like NMH, Godfather, Scarface it shows that third parties do have the initiative to produce games other that the usual party mini games associated with Wii. Now the onus is on the Wii owners to purchase it and show the developers that such games are in demand. Sadly this is slow at the moment and hopefully it will pick up. I too feel mad when SMG did not take off in Japan in terms of sales.

2. As for the sales chart, please bear in mind that currently there are 45 mill ps2 owners in USA compared to 7 mill Wii owners. Taking those figure into account, the sales of Godfather and Scarface for Wii is barely below half of the sales for PS2. Still not good but something to look at.

3. In terms of the quote from Reggie and Iwata, no arguement from me. However, they also have repeteadly stress that hardcore crowd wont be left out. Again too lazy to find the quote as most are quotes from the E3 video.

4. Finally, could Nintendo please upgrade their online infrastructure. I need to be able to tell my squad members to flank me immediately rather that dying on the spot while typing the command

friendly banter aside, i agree the Wii's online is weak..but i hope it will improve...but nintendo is not doing anything to improve their online...

you are hardcore when:-

1- spent countless hours trying to get the last star that seems out of reach
2- grind thousands and thousands of minions just to find that special item
3- killing fellow gamers just to get that 10,000 kill achievement

you are dead hardcore when:-

1- neglect your family just to finish up the game
2- skip your job to pawn players from the other continent
3- stay awake for 3 nights just to play some mmog

etc etc. you get the drift. it doesnt matter what console, its the player that defines hardcore. with that said, i vote for the 360 for countless online fun!!

hehe really sorry if i make the wii fan boy piss of my statement that "wii suck" is base on my opinion only.Its a free country what?iam the user here and iam free to say anything and comment anything so that in future the game company will produce better games for us.

@corez
Your statement:"On joining my club, are you sure your current "Hardcore Club" allows it as I thought their motto is Ninty Suxors!!."

hei dude you are not so frenly and too fanatic to your Wii (Maybe 8hour on Mario is too long for you )
For your info, i just love to play games that i think kewl for me.hehehhe

lets we stop here and peace to each other. TS, just buy the console that you think cool to play

p/s: Wii is a good platform for kids,uncle,father,grandfather and grandmother to become a hardcore gamers in future, i'm sure we all start with mario too

This post has been edited by devilfedora81: Dec 13 2007, 03:53 AM

Yup, totally agree. Purchasing a specific console doesn't make someone a hardcore player.

yes. i have to agree with that too. How do you rate a hardcore player? rule of thumb, he/she is dead stuck infront of the screen daily for numerous hours playing and beating the game or the opponent. All consoles can be played by hardcore gamers. People often confusion or perceived that fps ) person shooter games are consider hardcore gaming. What about games like simulation (Grand turismo, Final fantasy, etc , just to name a few). Everyone has his/her own taste. so hardcore player doesn't really restrict formally on game consoles. When we play a specific game, criteria which demand certain skill is required. For example, a fps requires good reaction and fast thinking. games like final fantasy requires strategy thinking, games on Wii requires tedious muscle movement or high muscle sensitivity. All these do contribute to the enjoyment of gaming. Approach wise is different. In addition, some games too require co-op and team work is on of the key for winning.

now back to the TS question, my choice will be the ps3. due to xbox's 3rod and i'm a bit aged so gradual body movement is not really my liking. A piece of advice just like what the previous forumer have mentioned. Ask yourself, what do you really wanna play. Cause in the end of the day, its not about the consoles, its more about the game. what you're really playing is the game, the console is just the medium for you to operate in the game. cheers.

Haih...aren't u guys getting tired of this 'who is hardcore n who is not?'.

I play games just to relax after a hard day's work and escape reality...sure during weekends I like to spend hours in front of the tv and when I'm out to conferences, I play with the handheld during commuting.

If u hv the money, buy all

Nagging about who is hardcore or who is not is just like an old woman comparing his son to another's...it's plain ugly and not pretty to see n hear. Especially the nagging

At the end of the day we're all gamers...PEACE

TS, look first what game u want...there's gamespot, there's ign, there's famitsu, there's even magazine...for each console, search for their top editor's choice. If one console hv more games that u like compared to the other...then that is ur choice...it's that simple.