Hi guys,
my friend just bought a chow chow from a local petshop, but after one week the dog died.

It is very sad because this is my friend's first dog and she loved it alot. It is very cute and I even bought alot of treats for it but now its gone.

This all happened on the 4th-5th day after my friend bought the dog, the dog started to have no appetite, lethargic, vomit and have diarrhoea. She is very scared so bring it to see vet immediately. The vet later confirmed the dog as contracted distemper and after staying with the vet for 2 days, the dog cant fight the disease and died. According to the ladyboss, the dog had already had one injection prior to being imported from china but she doesnt have the vaccination card but she told my friend that the dog is healthy.

According to the vet and sources from the internet, it seems there is a period of 14-18days after infection when symptoms of the disease starts to appear. This highly seem to suggest that the dog already had the virus before my friend bought it.

I want to know if the petshop is responsible for this or not? and what action should we take now?

Thanks.

Goodness... which petshop is that?

Anyway, you ask your friend to go back to the shop, and explain. Print out your references as well. It also would be better if you could ask a vet to help you sign a letter about it too.

My friend had 1 case before... tick fever and too serious till can't cure. Angry, my friend went back to the shop after a week he bought the dog, and told the owner. They said no refund. Angrier, he made a complain, wrote 2 letters to the SPCA and MKA, and forwarded to the shop. Scared, the shop quickly made a full refund and took back the dog.

Distemper... normally petshop. Did they vaccinate the chow chow at the shop?

but then will MKA n SPCA do anything about this matter?
are they really reliable?

No lah... they can't do anything but it scared the shopowner. The petshop is actually very popular currently but not a shopping mall petshop. They got so scared, they actually went to my friend's home to pick the dog.

The proper thing is doing a consumer report.... but I think it would take some time to clear lah.

I think I will ask my friend to get the doctor to write a letter.

No they did not vaccinate the dog at the shop because the dog just arrived imported from china. The petshop boss say the dog already had one vaccination there but there is no proof also since she has no vaccination card.

Now quite scared to go to that shop also, the petshop guy boss is a gangster I think, got alot of tattoos on his body one. Then the shop always got alot of his "brothers" there. Hopefully the ladyboss will be reasonable.

Making reports to the consumer's department also takes ages...this a DOG somemore...malay people where give a damn...

Let's not bring race into this.

TS, get your friend's vet to write a letter and a report. If it is distemper, the puppy probably contracted it either at the shop or via transit. Strange though, i believe even imported dogs will have a vaccination card Probably the store will be unwilling to give a refund, they'll probably be able to come to some sort of compromise... surely nobody wants their story (plus incriminating proof) to appear in the daiy papers... word spreads fast among the dog community, and being badmouthed is a surefire way to go bankrupt.

Care to give us the name of the petshop, hopefully no other forumer will get scammed too.

I too have lost a puppy before, and it really hurts My condolences to your friend. Don't let this setback deter her from keeping another puppy.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Dec 2 2007, 11:28 PM

Nono..i not talking bout race here..but then its a dog and its HARAM to malays so i don't think they will like to handle this kind of cases.

Do not keep putting race or religion here. We as Malaysians must respect each other.

Reporting officially to consumer department of course lah take time. There are legal matters. My point is to discuss with the shop owner, if nothing is done, you can give them a scare and see where it goes. Who knows what would happen.... but if what TS said about being gangster-like shopowner, then the friend has to be cautious about it.

The best is of course ask the vet to print out the report and sign, then write a letter about complain and also discuss.

Like what madmoz said, word of mouth can spread fast. Just mention the name, we can spread big word about the shop being untruthful about the pup's health.

well...what was the petshop's name by the way?!!

Do not stray out of the topic. 1 warning.....

You are wrong, they are malays who keep dogs.

TS, So sorry to hear the story.. and I feel pity for the dog! One question, imported dog shall be in quarantine? If the disease is there for around 14-18 days... I think the dog get it from the quarantine or something!? Or it stays long in the petshop before your friend bought it? Is it first vaccination is not enough to protect the puppy from this distemper?

Normal vaccination can fight off most disease?

not really la...cos some disease more powerful de...ned special vac...

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agree v iluv2zz....i know some malay citizen who got GR...very nice somemore...

i dont reli trust those quarantine thingy, few months ago i imported a dog to my friend's house at japan cuz we have no place to keep n didnt wan her to be a stray dog...We just do normal things at clinic, then we went to issue the permit to export dog, they dont reli check also. They are more into documents, when reached japan also...See document n check microchip then can entered jor...since china is such a "good" country. I think to get those document for a dog isn't a hard thing lor...I do bliv the dog got illness before come go complain!! hope your friend will get back what she should get

Well, to be honest it will quite difficult to get full refund in this situation.

Be reasonable when talk to the shop, probably get them the provide you another dog would be the better than empty handed in the end.

Hah, Japan also so easy meh?? I heard from here Peninsular bring dog back Sabah/Sarawak also need 6 weeks quarantine leh....

really? so many procedures in malaysia itself?

stupidbump: yeah, a whole lot of procedures to go through. been through that already >_<

aiks...you send dog from where to where?
can describe abit bout the procedures?

TS would u mind providing us the name of the pet store??
maybe by PM?? i would like to know coz then i won visit that store no more

i agree with chamelion...coz they usually will not gv refund as it hurts their pocket i remember one of our forumer's friend also had a similar experience with one of the local more popular store...however, the friend did not manage to get a refund, and not even another dog...but jus got discount on BUYING another dog...

*** madmoz ah is this forumer im talking about u ah? coz i forgot who it is dy ***

i think yes ah... he said he got siu kat at some discounted price ah...

but I would like to know which pet shop too lor... cause distemper will spread to other doggies? Then maybe other dogs in the shop also got the virus de!

Thanks everyone for their feedback.

The petshop is quite a famous petshop in JB so you guys in KL have nothing to worry about. The petshop's name is N****** T*****, very well known for importing many rare and hard to find breeds.

Their dogs all come through Thailand, I think the dogs "travelled by some ways" from Thailand to Malaysia so the dogs dont have vaccination cards or certs. Even my friend's chow chow came originally from China to Thailand, then the petshop got the right connections to get the dogs into Malaysia.

doh...in JB izzit? then i will never need to worry...impossible will go there buy anything...haha

i sent a MS back to sabah (my hometown) from KL.
yeah, like they said, u have to get a doctor to prove that ur dog is healthy, and the license that goes on..
documents and a whole lot of things @.@ which u need to spend like, roughly rm1k D: (sitting airplane back - have to go through customs)
and then quarantines and stuffs. actually its a really long procedure @.@ i forgot how long did it take to finish up all the procedures @.@

This post has been edited by lilcatty: Dec 3 2007, 03:02 AM

Hi nicwise, so sorry about your friend's recent loss and well i"ve got bad news for you, whatever pets that was purchased from a pet shop should be brought to the vet for a health check immediately. And within 24 hours with a vet report, you could have got a refund. When you need to purchase a dog, get it from a breeder or a pet shop that specializes in dogs. Where they will have shelfs of dog food, dog accessories, dog health items, dog microchip tag services if available and a couple of dog breeds in the shop. The pet shop that your friend have gone too is completely unreliable. They are only interested in making money and definitely you will not get a refund. Tell your friend to not get into trouble. It is hard to overcome the loss of a dog, but we need to carry on, and i am definitely sure your friend will get a better match (dog) in the future.

1000 for sending it back to sabah? worth it?
better you buy one directly in sabah

yaya...i also wanna knw...
since i plan to pet 2 cats...i'm indonesia chinese study in KL, so if i wanna take my pet back later....hw to go thorough the procedure..?
thx

wah cats also wanna ship? somemore back to indonesia....2 somemore....surely cost you a bomb if like that..
Shipping a dog back to sabah within malaysia already RM1K.......

Out of topic already but I will answer this. After this, please do not bring up this topic as it is about a dog from a petshop.

You need to get a permit of import from Indonesia and an export permit from Malaysia. Air travel is by MAS airlines. You really need to plan. The cost could be Rm2k and above, also the quarantine can be anything from a few weeks to a few months. The paper work is alot, it could take you about 3 months or more to clear all the paperwork but you should not do this alone. Get help from a petshop or advice from a vet clinic. You need an agent to help you.

I have never ship any pets in or out but I roughly know what to expect. Find the information yourself as if you PM me, no use also as I got no contacts. Sooooo..... search this forum. Someone already opened a thread about shipping.

People love their pets, that is why they bother. Each individual care for their pets differently, so if we love our pets, price is nothing.

Anyway, just a reminder, stay with the topic. Do not stray.

but then if quarantine, will the authorities take good care of the pets? are we able to monitor them or we will be in tha dark?

If the pet shop owner said they did vaccination on the pup, they should have the vaccination card as prove and should be given to your friend to follow up with any future vaccination requirements. The pet store can't even provide the vaccination card, it is kind of obvious that they just crap out the story just so your friend will buy it confidently.

Do what's best to fight. Cause if we as consumer do not stand for our rights, more pet shop owners will neglect these issues and who knows, more innocent animals will die!

It makes me feel so angry to hear such pet shop owners are so irresponsible to these details and tried to avoid refund.

vaccination got provide medic cards? As far as i know, i only got an MKA Cert when i bought my MS last week.
that also haven't ready and the shop claimed it will post to my address..

If really there is a vaccination card, i am going to meet the shop owner to demand for one also...

of course vaccination got medical cards. when i bought my 2nd westie a few weeks ago here in KL, it came with a vaccination card (IF the dog was vaccinated prior).

to the TS, i am really sorry to hear of this story. but everything sounds dubious. to export an animal from China or Thailand, there is a lot of paperwork to be done and the official government vet has to issue export certificate and do a check to ensure the animal has all the necessary vaccinations. I know this as i moved from Bangkok to KL with my westie and it had to be checked by a official government vet at the old Don Muang Airport to get documents. these documents are then sent to Malaysia customs so i can get an import certificate for him. upon arrival at KLIA, my dog was sent to quarantine for 7 days before being allowed to be taken home.

This post has been edited by ihawk98: Dec 3 2007, 01:31 PM

General rule of thumb is whatever puppy/dog you newly bought regardless from reputable petshop or breeder, you need to bring it to the vet for another check-up within 24 hours. Make sure it did not carry any contagious disease to your other house pet.

Do not take the words from the seller 100%, always get a second vet opinion on the dog's health condition.

To claim a refund on a sick or genetically defective puppy you just bought is almost IMPOSSIBLE if you and seller do not have an agreement. Even in US this kind of issue is still never resolve.

So...buyer must always ask for a contract (preferably written) from the seller if you are buying an expensive pedigree. If the seller is unwilling to give you a contract to replace a dog if a genetic defect surfaces, then don't buy from him/her.

Another thing worth you all to ponder is... if a seller is selling you a pedigree below market price, do you think he/she will give you a guarantee contract?

basically there is one vaccination card provided after their vaccination. Dido doesn't have one? o.O"

and pet stores often find their way out (without going through the customs - under table) and quarantines. so sometime it's a risk to have dogs being imported in by unethical pet stores

This post has been edited by lilcatty: Dec 3 2007, 02:51 PM

TS, sorry about your friend's loss. I know how it's like to really want a rare breed but then next time, please becareful to avoid getting cheated like this. Sure feels bad that the dog just died even though you dont take the money into calculations - emotional hurt.

Generally, avoid dogs from Thailand at all cost. You should go to Bangkok and see the condition there. Transferring dogs is like how they transport chicken here in Malaysia. Hundreds of them in the cage, with various diseases and some without vaccincation. I know this because my friend's wife is from Thailand and she runs a pet shop there before marrying my friend.

To get a healthy pup from Thailand (your's is china go through thai), it's the same thing, same mean of transportation, lorry, disease.

Vaccination, guarantee got medical card. Do not trust people just by mouth especially if you first time buy from them. This does not apply to dogs only but any other things you wish to purchase. Black & white is standard practise. If you go hosp also got card and record, right?

Distemper is lethal. My Westie of 4 months, female was bought from a local breeder whose Sire is the local champion but imported from Thai. Really a champion but then, when I brought her home at first, she also cough. I thought distemper and then brought her to the vet, EVERY 4 days!! Take leave from work just to bring her, spend more around 1k to cure her and luckily it's not distemper. Just that when she young, she is weak but now stronger already.

I hope you becareful with all your future purchases, especially when it cost thousand of dollars. Send our condolences to your friend. Sorry I cannot advise you on the legal action you can take against such irresponsible pet shop. You can write to the press, that is what I'd guaranteed do.

TS, very very sorry to hear about your friend's loss.

Like the rest of them had said, bring your newly bought furkid to the vet immediately after getting them.

canine have 2 very well known virus, canine distemper and canine parvovirus.. both brings death.. do some research online... i have known of a similiar case before..... canine virus need 3 weeks to show their symptom... so.. if ur dog show sympthom after few days u bring home.. means, the dog kena virus before your hand.. according to the law, selling of unfit goods is against the law...
the case that i know, got back refund.... full refund.. except for the medical charges..
go to ur local consumer assoc.. tell them ur case.. they have a book regrading this case.. but their example using cat.. same concept...

go back the shop, tell the shop if they dont refund, u will report to consumer assoc... but before that, tell ur doc to write a report of the dog death cause, and symptom. u just need to prove that the dog died of canine, and it is infected before hand, and that the shop sell u unfit and unhealthy dog... this is due to canine bring death... and there is no 100% cure... only long term medicine can suppress the sickness.. long term means more cash involved... and doesn't have 100% cure....

sumore, if kena canine, kenot take vaccine.. cause dog body not suitable... thus making it prone to other virus also....

Thanks everyone for their concern and kind feedback.

After going with my friend to talk to the ladyboss, she only said she will give my friend a huge discount the next dog she buy from her. (But who is gonna buy from her again?)

And since my friend is those type that don't wanna make things very big and complicated, just accepted her apology and offer. The ladyboss said most probably it was infected during transit here to Malaysia. God knows how many of her other dogs are infected too.

Since the ladyboss's husband is a gangster with lots of tattoos and there are alot of thugs in that shop too. We feel that its best to let matter rest but I guess my friend learned her lesson this time round.

For the time being she will be contented to just play with my dogs Its quite sad since she had been waiting for a long time to finally get a dog. All I can say its a very traumatic first time experience. My first dog was bought from the same petshop and I never went back there again. I am thankful my dog did not suffer the same fate, if not I would be very discouraged to buy another dog.

She also did not consult me before buying the dog, if not I would have asked her to avoid that shop. I guess alot of us just buy our dogs on impulse, but at the end of the day, I guessed we all learned our lesson.

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Added on December 3, 2007, 5:45 pmThanks pennywise for your information on dogs being imported from Thailand. When I bought my first dog, a corgi from her, she told me that alot of her dogs in her shop were brought in through Thailand. Then when I asked her if they were from puppymills, she said no. She said the dogs were bred by rich hobby breeders in Thailand. They live in big houses and breed nice dogs for sale. Maybe should not take her word for it. Anyway glad my dog turned out fine.

This post has been edited by nicwise: Dec 3 2007, 05:45 PM

Hi, sorry to hear about your friend's puppy. Reading this brought back memories to my 1st puppy which pass away 4 days staying with me and my 2nd puppy pass away within 1 mth, both puppies bought from the same guy from mainland, penang..
When the 1st puppy has symptoms, we brought to the VET n he confirm the puppy was sick and has virus so we got a letter from the Vet to ask for the guy for refund but instead he offer us older puppy for a small amount of fee. We took another chance but mana tahu the puppy got like sudden heart attack after 1 mth staying with me..the whole body just stiffens up..since then i learn my lesson buying from petshop and got to look out for some signs of the puppies health when u planning to buy one..
The Vet claim most of these puppies are from Thailand cos there has a lot of puppy mills..
So i do understand ur friend's feeling, no matter how long the puppy was with u even if its only 4 days or 1 week, u already build that special bond with the puppy and suddenly it pass away without much explanation or cause, u will feel very sad one lor..it took me a while to get over it and buying another puppy..and as of today, I'm proud to own 2 female noty cheeky dogs..one poodle and one MS.

A slight correction about Thai dogs. Like how my friends would put it, they are not called puppy mills, but rather puppy whore house.

When you see the puppy transported there, you will know what I mean. 1 lorry, 300 dogs, chicken size cages, all squat and lay down for trips which covers 200 - 500km, no drink, some have not eaten for days, some re-eat their shit so many times just to survive, blood, dirt, rust, hot sun, some dead bodies inside, some disease, some debark, some distemper, some virus, some rotten - all sent to Bangkok.

I am sure you can imagine. Their number of puppies are a lot and they target Malaysia market because Malaysian willing to pay RM2 - 5k for a dog depends on rarity.

1. Do you know a Pug in Bangkok is only RM100?
2. Do you know that the same dog (whatever breed), sold for 12,000 baht can get as cheap as 2,000 baht in the evening?
3. Why the massive price drop? Because tomorrow got new stock, always got new stock. Just want to get rid of stock to bring in new ones.
4. Do you also know there is a fake-cert service in Bangkok?

Thailand dog breeder / keeper / etc are just to MAKE MONEY la, you think they truly love dogs and breed for the genes? Live in big house? Rich people? Good food? If they live in a bungalow with a rare good breed, why would they wanna sell?

If you guys got chance to see, you will know what I mean. I forgot the name of the street but they have a road like Petaling Street, selling all the dogs wan. You stay at the street until evening, they will all close shop and tell you to go off - why? Time to restock. I've seen cause I was at my friend's wife shop. (Actually not her shop but her uncle shop, she has a Pom)

whoa whoa....not ALL Thai breeders are as what you describe pennywise.

i know my westie breeder personally and have been to her house and it is not a mill. she is a flight attendant by day and breed westies as a hobby.

there are cheap dogs available at chatuchak for less than RM400 which you SHOULD NOT BUY. my advice is to always visit the breeder's facilities and NEVER BUY from a pet shop unless absolutely necessary. always buy with eyes opened and if it is too good a deal, chances are, it is too good to be true.

my 2 cents...

This post has been edited by ihawk98: Dec 3 2007, 11:11 PM

Same like the rest of this world. Got good people and bad people but often you meet bad ones more than good. What I'm trying to say is that more often than not, people will try to cheat you regardless of what industry / field / hobby we spoke off. Just be careful. And just to share my views on the dog millers in Thailand, not an easy sight to forget even if we try to imagine those on the trucks are chickens rather than dogs.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Dec 3 2007, 11:31 PM

I apologise for going off topic but I need to clarify some accusations made.

I am certain you were given a vaccination card. Please do double check as the girl who bought the dog was also briefed on when the next vaccination is based on the card. In fact, the dog was scanned with a microchip reader to show the microchip number and this number was verified against the sticker on the vaccination card.

As for the MKA cert, it has been informed that the cert will only be ready after the dog is 4 months and above.

This post has been edited by jtl: Dec 3 2007, 11:28 PM

OMG....I am in JB too pls pm me the petshop name....I dun want to kena....I am getting a TOY POODLE this month too.....Also from CHINA de.....Walao.....dunno dangerous anot......Pls give me some advice....But the seller say got GURANTEE within 1week if pups got any problem...

This post has been edited by pitinn: Dec 4 2007, 12:43 AM

as far as I concern, 1 week is not enough to determine whether the pup is healthy or not, as some virus will only shows after 14 days of infection wor... this is what my vet told me... even you spend money to do test, like pennywise did for her Moonie, you will still be sure that it is not infected weeks back, but no one can guarantee it is not infected, say yesterday =( ... That's a bad thing... I once pondering whether or not to buy one puppy because i know it is sick, the vet told me it is like a gamble since a week is not really enough to determine whether the pup is totally healthy or not.

Just beware. A lot of "imported" dogs are never imported into the country in the proper way. Alot of "under the table" money gets passed around. China, Thailand..... these 2 countries are popular with such importation. Do not be fooled.

If you want an imported line, then go and import yourself. Many show breeders in Malaysia and breed hobbyist actually search for their dogs overseas themselves than ask an agent or petshop to find for them. But when a petshop brings in dogs from other countries.... normally not 100% healthy, expecially Thailand and China. They got very very few good breeders and extremely MANY puppy agents, puppy farms, puppy mills.... Puppy Fields!

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Added on December 4, 2007, 1:04 amYups, agree! 1 week is never enough. Getting a pup through such petshops that do not practice ethical breeding and selling.... very risky. I will always stand firm at "Buy from the right breeder".

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Dec 4 2007, 01:04 AM

Actually the breeder is in LOWYAT too.....So how ah????I dun wan to get unhealthy pups plssss.......

it takes a long time for the pre-arriving procedural few months for that...i dont reli remember exactly time...you'll need to stay in quarantine only if you dont have proper documents and didnt do things correctly or your dog suspected to have illness, mostly they are just worry about rabies thingy...my dog got skin problem, but doesnt make any trouble for that...you will need to bring doggie go to do many things after microchip transplanted...otherwise, those things you did before that, they dont count....i remember after the last thing...i think injection...u will need to stay at departure country for about 3 months or 6 months...after that only can go...If one of your document less, your dog might need to stay in quarantine, but it's extremely expensive cuz the count per day of stay..After all, you will need a letter from your pet doctor to guarantee the dog's health...many many things, but if you done all...Like my dog, go to quarantine check microchip then come out...much earlier than expected...

my bf's colleague bought a pomeranian recently and the poor dog died within a week too. complained to the pet shop, and they accused him of not feeding the dog not sure which pet shop but he lives in puchong

din feed? then wat was the cause of death?disease?

If I want to sell you things, anything also I can say. If anything happen, anything also can deny maaa...

What's the breeder name?

Is it really didnt feed? Or something else?

it's something else which he dunno what disease. not sure got bring to vet or not ler actually. the guy went back to the shop to ask why is the dog sick, the shop dun wanna admit is their fault, thats why accused my bf's colleague of not feeding the pup

not feeding the pup, this the worst lame excuse i've ever heard.......
ASk them use brain lah.......how can v buy the dog home but not feeding them ah.
Next time use better excuse like, got sick or catch cold at ur place, then mati lah.

If you don't bring a sick puppy to a vet, and it dies, i believe you have no ground t stand on anymore unfortunately, the petstore can say whatever they want and you'd have no rebuke.

I'm not flaming anyone nor making accusations here BUT:

1) Why are so many people reluctant to bring sick pets to the vet? Money factor? Well, honestly, the cost of vet trips should already been included when deciding to buy/adopt a pet dog.
2) If you are ill would you go to the vet? Likewise, if your daughter/son is ill, would you let him/her suffer at home? Home remedies? Why the difference? Is your dog not part of your family too?

Or does a pet stay a pet - a lower 'lifeform' and not as precious as a son or a daughter? If so, why bother calling your dog a pet? Just call it a plaything then.



This post has been edited by madmoz: Dec 4 2007, 01:00 PM

the guy asked back the shop fella...'if i dun feed the pup..i keep the dog kibbles to eat myself isit?'

madmoz, not sure got go vet or not. will ask my bf to ask him later. chill

This is wat she reply me....I dun want to say the name.....

i got agent help me to import all the pups from china..confirm healthy already only bring here 1..cos we 'll quarantine in china n reach malaysia liao also will quarantine for 1 week only send to customer ..dun worry ..i'll call u when the pups reach..dun hestitate to ask question..i'm willing to tell u all i know..thanks..

pitinn...she giving u any guarantee?

ya....She is giving me 1week....If anything happen she will change or something....ANd also gurantee for the dog....If the dog grow up not toy poodle size she will change 4 me too.....She got confidence with the quality of her dogs....

no worries, like i said earlier - not directing my rant to anyone in particular, just a general observation.

yaya..i double check with my gf and she confirmed you gave her the card...lol...sorry sorry...cos she didn't mentioned bout it..keke...sorry bro...

Just like when I got Moonie, every 4 days go vet one time, imagine the bill! And that's just after I paid for buying her, then the bill come stacking up along with her toys, cage, extra food, bowl, etc. Take leave from work also bring her go vet. I agree with you totally, just except for one part, if I'm ill I would not go to a vet, I'd go to a doctor... Hahaha... kidding, I am sure everyone get your point!

i was also reading thru and nearly fell off my chair laughing...keke...go to Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam lo if wanna save some pennies...its like the General Hospital in Malaysia.
Private Vets are like Gleneagles, SJMC...etc..right?

lol ! i am new as well but not active in this subforum only! seriously duno why my first dog aslo the same and that dog my sis bf buy for her one den 3 weeks the dog start to like bark brark den run den go bang on the wall still nothing when we bring to Vet the doctor said put to sleep ! i was like crying like hell ! seriously!

WHAT YOU MEAN? he bark bark then run around...then bang on wall..then need put to sleep? WHY?
Was it because of the bang? Or he got sickness which made him sot sot?

Darn, I was so worked up that i said i go to the vet when i'm ill

hahha....you are seriously one funny funky person madmoz...

i'm curious too....

aiks...this fella offline dy...came..post a thread...then left us with whole bunch of question marks

Why run and bang wall must be put to sleep?

I heard an almost similar story. My friend's aunt has a dog, forgot what breed but it's a small / toy breed. When she went for vacation for a week, she handed this dog over to her neighbour to watch over. The dog felt so lonely and thought the master abandoned her. So sad that the dog could not take it and it started to bite itself and then acted the same, bark non stop, run and bang the wall until neck break and die... My friend's dad is a professional breeder for Labrador and many ppl always come buy from him. He said that this usually happens with small dogs, too emotional, cannot be contained so many cases lead to suicide.

So if your story is related, I think your dog just wanted some attention. Would it be that you didnt play with it enough? Or was there any separation anxiety from its pack when you took him?

lolz...i think the vet mayb worry that the dog have too stressed and will sooner or later hurt itself worse or maybe hurt others around him/her maybe??

if the dog is already hurting itself so badly then i agree that putting it to sleep would b better so that it will not suffer more pain...for uncontrolable situations, i do agree that putting them to sleep will b better jus like when humans are sick and in too much pain, lethal injections are given to patients for their best interest..

johnkor...would u consider getting a second puppy then??

Maybe what Johnkor meant bout the vet advising them to put the dog to sleep because the poor thing broke it's neck or skull?

It's very very sad when a furkid thinks that its owner has abandoned them. Cannot imagine the pain and loneliness that they felt.

this is a very grey area, and i think it is illegal in many countries.

wah...??
puppies also know how to commit suicide?
i starting to worry liao nih...if my pup act like that then i pening lah

im curious of what's happening as well

Dog infected with rabies and become crazy like in 28 weeks later?

not rabbies lah...maybe suffering from depression or hypertension!