TS, sorry about your friend's loss. I know how it's like to really want a rare breed but then next time, please becareful to avoid getting cheated like this. Sure feels bad that the dog just died even though you dont take the money into calculations - emotional hurt.

Generally, avoid dogs from Thailand at all cost. You should go to Bangkok and see the condition there. Transferring dogs is like how they transport chicken here in Malaysia. Hundreds of them in the cage, with various diseases and some without vaccincation. I know this because my friend's wife is from Thailand and she runs a pet shop there before marrying my friend.

To get a healthy pup from Thailand (your's is china go through thai), it's the same thing, same mean of transportation, lorry, disease.

Vaccination, guarantee got medical card. Do not trust people just by mouth especially if you first time buy from them. This does not apply to dogs only but any other things you wish to purchase. Black & white is standard practise. If you go hosp also got card and record, right?

Distemper is lethal. My Westie of 4 months, female was bought from a local breeder whose Sire is the local champion but imported from Thai. Really a champion but then, when I brought her home at first, she also cough. I thought distemper and then brought her to the vet, EVERY 4 days!! Take leave from work just to bring her, spend more around 1k to cure her and luckily it's not distemper. Just that when she young, she is weak but now stronger already.

I hope you becareful with all your future purchases, especially when it cost thousand of dollars. Send our condolences to your friend. Sorry I cannot advise you on the legal action you can take against such irresponsible pet shop. You can write to the press, that is what I'd guaranteed do.

A slight correction about Thai dogs. Like how my friends would put it, they are not called puppy mills, but rather puppy whore house.

When you see the puppy transported there, you will know what I mean. 1 lorry, 300 dogs, chicken size cages, all squat and lay down for trips which covers 200 - 500km, no drink, some have not eaten for days, some re-eat their shit so many times just to survive, blood, dirt, rust, hot sun, some dead bodies inside, some disease, some debark, some distemper, some virus, some rotten - all sent to Bangkok.

I am sure you can imagine. Their number of puppies are a lot and they target Malaysia market because Malaysian willing to pay RM2 - 5k for a dog depends on rarity.

1. Do you know a Pug in Bangkok is only RM100?
2. Do you know that the same dog (whatever breed), sold for 12,000 baht can get as cheap as 2,000 baht in the evening?
3. Why the massive price drop? Because tomorrow got new stock, always got new stock. Just want to get rid of stock to bring in new ones.
4. Do you also know there is a fake-cert service in Bangkok?

Thailand dog breeder / keeper / etc are just to MAKE MONEY la, you think they truly love dogs and breed for the genes? Live in big house? Rich people? Good food? If they live in a bungalow with a rare good breed, why would they wanna sell?

If you guys got chance to see, you will know what I mean. I forgot the name of the street but they have a road like Petaling Street, selling all the dogs wan. You stay at the street until evening, they will all close shop and tell you to go off - why? Time to restock. I've seen cause I was at my friend's wife shop. (Actually not her shop but her uncle shop, she has a Pom)

Same like the rest of this world. Got good people and bad people but often you meet bad ones more than good. What I'm trying to say is that more often than not, people will try to cheat you regardless of what industry / field / hobby we spoke off. Just be careful. And just to share my views on the dog millers in Thailand, not an easy sight to forget even if we try to imagine those on the trucks are chickens rather than dogs.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Dec 3 2007, 11:31 PM

If I want to sell you things, anything also I can say. If anything happen, anything also can deny maaa...

What's the breeder name?

Is it really didnt feed? Or something else?

Just like when I got Moonie, every 4 days go vet one time, imagine the bill! And that's just after I paid for buying her, then the bill come stacking up along with her toys, cage, extra food, bowl, etc. Take leave from work also bring her go vet. I agree with you totally, just except for one part, if I'm ill I would not go to a vet, I'd go to a doctor... Hahaha... kidding, I am sure everyone get your point!

Why run and bang wall must be put to sleep?

I heard an almost similar story. My friend's aunt has a dog, forgot what breed but it's a small / toy breed. When she went for vacation for a week, she handed this dog over to her neighbour to watch over. The dog felt so lonely and thought the master abandoned her. So sad that the dog could not take it and it started to bite itself and then acted the same, bark non stop, run and bang the wall until neck break and die... My friend's dad is a professional breeder for Labrador and many ppl always come buy from him. He said that this usually happens with small dogs, too emotional, cannot be contained so many cases lead to suicide.

So if your story is related, I think your dog just wanted some attention. Would it be that you didnt play with it enough? Or was there any separation anxiety from its pack when you took him?