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 Leapmotor B10 Launch - starts at RM100k, habislah eMas 7, Atto3

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andrekua2
post Dec 10 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 12:12 PM)
Seems like the nfc/phone app implementation is kinda dodgy. And havig to take out the card to engage drive feels outdated when even ICE cars can just keep fob in pocket to drive. Which is a shame as it's really competitive.

As for ADAS, e.MAS 7 has been updated so that the most annoying one, speed limit warning, can be set to display only. Now just need to finally release Android Auto.
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Sudah cakap you want to use card or bluetooth also can... but have to key in password if use bluetooth... you need to wait for it to boot first lor but since EV auto on AC once you unlock, not much problem.

C10 main problem is no android auto or carplay. Only can mirror your phone. If you are bothered with this, then B10 is your only choice.
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:39 PM

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>named B10
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 10 2025, 12:50 PM)
lol leapmotor sells more cars than Xpeng, Li motor etc.
Backed by stellantis
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Leapmotor is consistently in China Top 10 mthly sales with average 70k units sold/mth.
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:37 PM)
Sudah cakap you want to use card or bluetooth also can... but have to key in password if use bluetooth... you need to wait for it to boot first lor but since EV auto on AC once you unlock, not much problem.

C10 main problem is no android auto or carplay. Only can mirror your phone. If you are bothered with this, then B10 is your only choice.
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When other EVs don't need to take out anything to unlock car for most situations, that's a downside.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 01:40 PM)
Leapmotor is consistently in China Top 10 mthly sales with average 70k units sold/mth.
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Different priorities...

I see many brands prio white interior which is not only expensive but also not ideal for those like me who worked in factory. Also some of them prio flashy LED, motorised door opening like owner cacat cannot open or close door by themselves.

I prefer a simple vehicle, A-to-B, less accessories = less maintenance in future. Even opt for rear wheel drive so that wont have CV joint problem in future.
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 01:44 PM)
When other EVs don't need to take out anything to unlock car for most situations, that's a downside.
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What do you mean? You dont need the rfid card to open the door. If the app works, it unlock automatically as you walked near. You can change the detection zone if it is not very effective. Even if that failed, you just need to press the button on the door to unlock if you already paired your phone.
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:47 PM)
What do you mean? You dont need the rfid card to open the door. If the app works, it unlock automatically as you walked near. You can change the detection zone if it is not very effective. Even if that failed, you just need to press the button on the door to unlock if you already paired your phone.
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That's what I meant when asked earlier, can the phone work like other cars fob. But it seems like still need key in passcode when driving, which for me is a downside, but this is a balance of security vs convenience, so that's up to taste.
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 01:51 PM)
That's what I meant when asked earlier, can the phone work like other cars fob. But it seems like still need key in passcode when driving, which for me is a downside, but this is a balance of security vs convenience, so that's up to taste.
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Password is annoying for sure. They should have improved on that, like principal account does not need to key in password. At least losing the phone doesnt mean you will lose your car too.

Honestly I dont find it annoying... however, the most annoying is you have your phone in your pocket, tells your wife you go to pick up something. Later wife call and ask you to remote unlock the car.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:53 PM)
Password is annoying for sure. They should have improved on that, like principal account does not need to key in password. At least losing the phone doesnt mean you will lose your car too.

Honestly I dont find it annoying... however, the most annoying is you have your phone in your pocket, tells your wife you go to pick up something. Later wife call and ask you to remote unlock the car.
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Yeah, that's annoying for sure. This NFC + Phone Combo got popularized by Tesla, but I think even they sell/provide keyfob as an option.
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how b40 plan to charge?????

everyday go charge DC ke??


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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 10 2025, 02:08 PM)
Yeah, that's annoying for sure. This NFC + Phone Combo got popularized by Tesla, but I think even they sell/provide keyfob as an option.
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Well, just add your wife as supp account lor. Then she can use the app to unlock the car.

Not a big problem for me as I always had 2 phones with me.
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QUOTE(sihamsedap @ Dec 10 2025, 02:21 PM)
how b40 plan to charge?????

everyday go charge DC ke??
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Ah Loke say take mrt...
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM)
Leapmotor can't sell

Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy

CX5 Csegment RM150k
CRV Csegment RM160k
7x Dsegment RM170k
Model Y Dsegment RM200k

Too bad
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Actually, for the C10 they were too ambitious with their pricing at the beginning. They priced it at 150k initially when e.Mas 7 was indicated at 120k. I would have bought it for 130k but since they insisted on 150k, many people booked the Proton instead. So they hardly sold any. Now they are selling it for 125k but the competition is a lot stiffer now at the same price range. It also had some major flaws with no AA/CP and the stupid NFC card BS.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM)
Leapmotor can't sell

Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy

CX5 Csegment RM150k
CRV Csegment RM160k
7x Dsegment RM170k
Model Y Dsegment RM200k

Too bad
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Before they drop the C10 to RM120k, sales is only single digit, after drop to RM120k, sales naik sikit to 50-100 vehicles.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:04 PM)
test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 days
i believe b10 should behave the same

nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side
the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work
inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive
the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged

the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to:
1.Open the app
2.Tap “Unlock”
3.Key in your password

so many steps
and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode
bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password

I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password
on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time.
they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off.

the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car
if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7
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i find card more susah to store and find, i prefer key fob
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM)
Actually, for the C10 they were too ambitious with their pricing at the beginning. They priced it at 150k initially when e.Mas 7 was indicated at 120k. I would have bought it for 130k but since they insisted on 150k, many people booked the Proton instead. So they hardly sold any. Now they are selling it for 125k but the competition is a lot stiffer now at the same price range. It also had some major flaws with no AA/CP and the stupid NFC card BS.
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No AA/ACP on their infotainment? sweat.gif sweat.gif

Some more the stellantis brand which carry in Pijot has tarnished their image for the past 1-2 decades
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 11:01 AM)
test drove c10, not bouncy like proton emas 7
i guess the b10 would be the same, the least bouncy ev car you can buy

but the card key cacat betul, and also the phone app to unlock car also cacat
and stellantis leapmotor is having a hardtime worldwide sooooo need to expect the worst scenario like chery last time
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Actually the MG S5 is the best handling car for this segment, not bouncy. The C10 didn't handle well also despite the Maserati tuning BS claim.

Leapmotor is doing very well globally. Stellantis has been very good in Malaysia since they took over from Bermax and they also plan to CKD this model.
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QUOTE(ps3 fanboy @ Dec 10 2025, 10:23 AM)


byd also same price
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nice car. looks like a Teana.
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Actually a lot of people are hating on Stellantis for no reason. They just came in to take over like 2 years ago, before that Nasim (Naza) and Bermax are the ones who destroyed the Peugeot brand in Malaysia with their really bad SC support.

Since Stellantis came in they have solved a lot of issues for existing Peugeot owners although for some case the owner already suffer too long so it was too late for them. Also, the newer Peugeot models are very good and reliable IMO, only issue is spare part prices are still high.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:54 PM)
Actually the MG S5 is the best handling car for this segment, not bouncy. The C10 didn't handle well also despite the Maserati tuning BS claim.

Leapmotor is doing very well globally. Stellantis has been very good in Malaysia since they took over from Bermax and they also plan to CKD this model.
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but mg didn't sell much cars in malaysia, later bankrupt
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