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 Leapmotor B10 Launch - starts at RM100k, habislah eMas 7, Atto3

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yhtan
post Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:30 AM)
Leapmotor can't sell

Their C10 Dsegment SUV price at cheaplak RM120k also nobody buy

CX5 Csegment RM150k
CRV Csegment RM160k
7x Dsegment RM170k
Model Y Dsegment RM200k

Too bad
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Before they drop the C10 to RM120k, sales is only single digit, after drop to RM120k, sales naik sikit to 50-100 vehicles.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 12:04 PM)
test drove the c10, was considering to get it, but decided not to, they're so desperate they even loan me the car for 2 days
i believe b10 should behave the same

nfc reader is only on the driver-side mirror, if you exit from the driver’s side and walk to the passenger side
the door auto-locks again because of the timer — so everything becomes double work
inside the car, every time you shift into park, you must place the nfc card on the reader again just to engage drive
the nfc reader is in the same spot as the wireless phone charger, so you have to ensure the charger is off or your nfc card will get damaged

the phone app is also very cacat. To unlock the door, you need to:
1.Open the app
2.Tap “Unlock”
3.Key in your password

so many steps
and again, you still need to enter your password to engage drive mode
bluetooth proximity unlock drains iPhone battery like crazy, and even with it enabled, you still have to type and retype your password

I don’t mind typing a password for drivemode — that’s acceptable for security — but maybe not so many times? — like the car know you exist and re-entered then only need password
on top of that, all the ADAS features reset every time the car goes into park, so you have to turn them off manually every single time.
they promised a future update to fix the ADAS settings, but for now it’s just annoying, proton emas 7 only have 1 or 2 to turn off.

the pros is plenty of backseats leg room and not bouncy like emas 7, it's still a bouncy soft suspension feels like pudding car
if the price is the same as emas 7, just buy the emas 7
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i find card more susah to store and find, i prefer key fob
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 02:50 PM)
Actually, for the C10 they were too ambitious with their pricing at the beginning. They priced it at 150k initially when e.Mas 7 was indicated at 120k. I would have bought it for 130k but since they insisted on 150k, many people booked the Proton instead. So they hardly sold any. Now they are selling it for 125k but the competition is a lot stiffer now at the same price range. It also had some major flaws with no AA/CP and the stupid NFC card BS.
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No AA/ACP on their infotainment? sweat.gif sweat.gif

Some more the stellantis brand which carry in Pijot has tarnished their image for the past 1-2 decades
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 10 2025, 07:04 PM)
True, their marketing totally fail. They have good cars but hardly anyone knows about them. I really like their cars though, will probably buy a used one in the next few years.
SAIC and MG are doing well in PRC and globally so I think can still get parts in the future but don't know whether they will survive long in MY.
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SAIC ride the wrong horse, selecting Tan Chong which many of their sales person sudah jump ship because of declining in Nissan sales

MG also not so aggresive in term of marketing

The only CCP brand aggresive is Chery group, they really dump a lot of money for marketing and seem a lot of people keep promoting around. BYD ride on Sime Darby distribution network.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 10 2025, 08:05 PM)
key fob is the easiest, don't know why leapmotor keep insisting on not including it
because from the start 2024 many people from other countries including malaysia already said their nfc implementation is dumb
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Copy pasta from Tesla but doing it half past 6 laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 11 2025, 08:59 PM)
Guess ur not familiar with china market. Tons of them are failing because there are so many shitty companies in china just trying their luck. Anyone can be a car manufacturer in China . All mostly plug & play. U choose ur parts and u just assemble the car. Those are the ones that fail.

The bigger ones all do a lil bit if R&D and have their mega factories. China population is simply too big. U can throw some half baked product in the market and it will sell a few million units. Have a better product like Xiaomi or BYD and the volume will be huge. But their cars are nowhere near as good as the Japanese.

China cars are just well specced, but the core fundamentals are lacking.
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For example which new car manufacturer or model can sell few millions unit except BYD,Geely, SAIC, Chery and GWM?

As i know China is a cut throat market, even the German brand has to slash price to survive there.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 11 2025, 09:46 PM)
For example which new car manufacturer or model can sell few millions unit except BYD,Geely, SAIC, Chery and GWM?

As i know China is a cut throat market, even the German brand has to slash price to survive there.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Dec 12 2025, 06:10 AM)
Its not cutthroat if u know how to position your product. Their margins are thin but they make it up with volume. U need to understand why there are just so many billionaires in China. U can take anything and sell in China. Dont say 1% la, even 0.1% of them buy your product, u are a multimillionaire already.

Even my friend became a multimillionaire selling Malaysian food in China. Its that simple.

Its just that Malaysia market is so small, u guys are not used to the huge numbers in China
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u still didn't answer my first question, stop spinning there lah, u cakap macam u tau which car manufacturer all of sudden can sell millions unit.

I also wanna know which car manufacturer or model can sell millions unit except establish brand like BYD, Geely, SAIC, Chery, GWM?

QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 12 2025, 06:42 AM)
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I guess this is for cooling purpose i think?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 12 2025, 09:36 AM)
You need to cool the motor? I thought its the battery that needs all the cooling from the non stop charging and energy release.
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Yes, if not overheat will cause the motor speed decrease

 

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