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 China hit record 1 trillion trade surplus but, China is still collapsing

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post Yesterday, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2025, 11:14 AM)
Tariff, etc could shift price competitiveness.
Given time and resources, almost everything is replaceable. it not necessary to replace prc by one country but could be by a few countries.

prc current situation is like japan in the 1990's. prc may have trade surplus but domestic consumption may be depressed for a few decades.
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China is a top trading country with many other countries, doubt they dare to impose tariffs, except US.
THis time is different from 1990s, cos of AI, robotics, automation, and China is very strong in these..
China is also a powerhouse in infrastructure building, ship building & transport that few can compete.
China is also strong in renewable energy sector esp Solar and Nuclear.
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post Yesterday, 12:12 PM

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Where is this guy sudah senyap
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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 11 2025, 11:58 AM)
China is a top trading country with many other countries, doubt they dare to impose tariffs, except US.
THis time is different from 1990s, cos of AI, robotics, automation, and China is very strong in these..
China is also a powerhouse in infrastructure building, ship building & transport that few can compete.
China is also strong in renewable  energy sector esp Solar and Nuclear.
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Industry and engineering is not static or fixed, it evolve overtime.

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post Yesterday, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 11 2025, 11:58 AM)
China is a top trading country with many other countries, doubt they dare to impose tariffs, except US.
THis time is different from 1990s, cos of AI, robotics, automation, and China is very strong in these..
China is also a powerhouse in infrastructure building, ship building & transport that few can compete.

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I recall the same things was said about Japan dominance in semicon, electronics and cars back in the 90s.
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post Yesterday, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM)
at one point europe countries asking china if you keep having surplus we no longer got money to trade with you.

and everyday say china collapse.
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Guess Europe don't have the capability to start the 3rd opium war this time
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post Yesterday, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM)
at one point europe countries asking china if you keep having surplus we no longer got money to trade with you.

and everyday say china collapse.
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...HQvEH5SPxFMkkHP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...4hPrlZY76Juqzkl

Not just that. PRC's tunnel drilling > France.
France fked up big time when they chose not to co-op with PRC on that. Forcing PRC to R&D and now leave France in the dust on tunnel drilling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4hnOEr1a4...er5Hh4_B2FsHB-w

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Even better vid.

You guys seriously have to check out Louis-Vincent Gave 's (French) vids. He is so underrated.

Steve Hsu (Murican) is the guy on the left.

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Meis
post Yesterday, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Dec 11 2025, 01:25 PM)
I recall the same things was said about Japan dominance in semicon, electronics and cars back in the 90s.
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I remember seeing this from US politicians using hammer to smash JP's stuff in front of the white house.
Few Japanese Americans got killed in this.

search:
"us politician smash made in japan 80s"

Murica - Anti-Japan
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...2JZW9QnvGdvp-Pi

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pornoman2128
post Yesterday, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(bamkai @ Dec 11 2025, 12:12 PM)
Where is this guy sudah senyap
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He's still grifting hard.
But now dare not talk about China collapse liao, cos too ridiculous. rclxms.gif

Now he complains about China's military growing too fast, until spreading into outer space, and how America (who started this "war" in the 1st place) doesn't know its in a war. I guess he's just preparing excuses for when America loses to China in the near future.

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"blame the slave labour worker ants"

meanwhile in msia the cream cropper white collar worker working 18-hour night shift can only afford poco phone

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QUOTE(unnamed @ Dec 11 2025, 02:55 PM)
"blame the slave labour worker ants"

meanwhile in msia the cream cropper white collar worker working 18-hour night shift can only afford poco phone
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:38 PM)
He's still grifting hard.
But now dare not talk about China collapse liao, cos too ridiculous.  rclxms.gif

Now he complains about China's military growing too fast, until spreading into outer space, and how America (who started this "war" in the 1st place) doesn't know its in a war. I guess he's just preparing excuses for when America loses to China in the near future.

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He's a real patriot okay, thanks to him blinding the Americunts China can reach where they are today faster
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post Yesterday, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2025, 12:14 PM)
Tariff, etc could shift price competitiveness.
Given time and resources, almost everything is replaceable. it not necessary to replace prc by one country but could be by a few countries.

prc current situation is like japan in the 1990's. prc may have trade surplus but domestic consumption may be depressed for a few decades.
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Time? China took decades to develop their supply chain until today

Resources? How much China and the world spent to develop supply chain in China

Do you think the world going to build another supply chain and spend billions developing it? Where?
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post Yesterday, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Dec 10 2025, 12:01 AM)
Well they need to accumulate more now, because one day they might have to deal with the effect of a balanced trade when the west all gang up and forcefully boycott all exports from China, then they will have to settle for only manufacture for internal consumption as well as other nations who are willing to buy due to lack of capabilities, such as some consumer products like TV etc that many nations are unable to make themselves even if they try.

There are two market segments:

The west, which does have the knowledge and capabilities to create their own products, but choose to rely on China because it is cheaper. This market segment can choose to bite the bullets and boycott all exports from China, and work among themselves to create the same products even though they will be more expensive. The most likely outcome is the rich will get even richer while the middle class and the poor will get even poorer at the end. But it is their freedom so they can freely choose this outcome.

The others, which does have the knowledge and capabilities to create some of their own products. One simple example is TV, not every nations on Earth can create their TV on their own even if they try. It is simply cheaper to buy from other countries, and China is likely going to be the cheapest. Even very common gadgets like smartphone will be a challenge for many nations. China advantages is its sheer size and hence economy of scale dwarf everyone else.

Even if both the markets all work together to totally boycott all exports from China, China can still settle for making products for own consumption only. The populations in China is same as all the western countries including EU and USA and Canada and Australia plus Japan and South Korea combining together. So it is a huge market. In a total boycott environment, things will be weird though. Due to China has low currency value, their products being sold internally will be far cheaper than similar products being sold elsewhere in the world. Anyway, that's just a hypothetical situation since it has not happened.
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Ever heard of China +1? They now have factories across asia, if ban china, their proxy ready.

2ndly, angmoh will not able to produce.

The only way to against china is all angmoh become monks and don spend.

China will suffer but not die.



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