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 China hit record 1 trillion trade surplus but, China is still collapsing

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Seawater
post Dec 10 2025, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 10 2025, 10:34 AM)
not even a year already 1 trillion+ surplus?
looks like trump tariffs flop  biggrin.gif
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Most likely from other nations though.
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post Dec 10 2025, 01:06 PM

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now dump products to eu. if eu raise tariffs, next dump to africa?
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Dec 10 2025, 09:03 AM)
Then there is this contradictory report that many ccp graduates cannot find jobs
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The situation happening in China alone?
It is worldwide phenomenon with AI arrival
Improved efficiency need eliminated plenty of entry level job
SG hit badly with it too
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:35 PM

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Artificial dumping

I think k/tard still very naive in economics

Do you know supplies can be bump up and false demand can be create?

Normally the impact of goods price increase due to short supplies.
What is the clear example of short supplies which impact worldwide quality of life? Oil

But CCP did the opposite way aka dumping
Most ppl happy due to low price but after some timeframe the local area business ecosystem will have the worst impact.


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post Dec 10 2025, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 02:16 PM)
The situation happening in China alone?
It is worldwide phenomenon with AI arrival
Improved efficiency need eliminated plenty of entry level job
SG hit badly with it too
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isnt this contradictory to the statement less working young people to support aging population? as AI/automation involved and less human power is required
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Dec 10 2025, 10:03 AM)
Then there is this contradictory report that many ccp graduates cannot find jobs
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But how come the unemployment rate is about 5%?

If you read mainstream media, they only report about youth unemployment but they don't really mention the country's unemployment rate

The issue is not really no jobs but the graduates can't find the jobs they want. Most don't want to do the blue collar jobs anymore.

This is why China is investing so much on AI and robotics
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post Dec 10 2025, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Dec 10 2025, 02:37 PM)
isnt this contradictory to the statement less working young people to support aging population? as AI/automation involved and less human power is required
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Kindly clarify which part contradictory?
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post Dec 10 2025, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 02:57 PM)
Kindly clarify which part contradictory?
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not enough young ppl

not enough jobs for young ppl
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post Dec 10 2025, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Dec 10 2025, 05:09 PM)
not enough young ppl

not enough jobs for young ppl
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Both are true right?
Not enough young people to support aging population and at the same time reduced job for fresh grad
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post Dec 10 2025, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Seawater @ Dec 10 2025, 12:15 PM)
Most likely from other nations though.
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Many thought china without US market will die lol
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post Dec 10 2025, 06:40 PM

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It takes years to replace a supply chain. Prc will likely to post enormous trade surplus in the next few years.

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post Dec 10 2025, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 06:45 PM)
Both are true right?
Not enough young people to support aging population and at the same time reduced job for fresh grad
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If not enough young people, how can there be not enough jobs?

There are jobs but not the jobs youth want

It's like us too. No one want to do blue collar jobs
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post Dec 10 2025, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 10 2025, 01:09 AM)
Not since 2020?
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since 1990.
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post Dec 10 2025, 07:23 PM

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BRI help create new markets for China products in Africa, central Asia, Middle east, LatAm and SEA.
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 10 2025, 06:55 PM)
If not enough young people, how can there be not enough jobs?

There are jobs but not the jobs youth want

It's like us too. No one want to do blue collar jobs
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It is totally 2 case which u confused
1st statement is not enough young ppl to support oldies through taxation
2nd statement is job for entry level is reducing with AI. SG hit with same situation now.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/today/big-r...workers-5449836
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post Dec 11 2025, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Dec 9 2025, 10:28 PM)
But at what cost
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=108992597
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post Dec 11 2025, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 06:40 PM)
It takes years to replace a supply chain. Prc will likely to post enormous trade surplus in the next few years.
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And if China suceeds in advancing their AI & Semicon technology n industries they will rule the world's manufacturing. Most other countries will only survive as being their raw material suppliers cos they r just uncompetitive.
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post Dec 11 2025, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 07:40 PM)
It takes years to replace a supply chain. Prc will likely to post enormous trade surplus in the next few years.
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Can you even replace the supply chain? Where can take over China's role?
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post Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM

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at one point europe countries asking china if you keep having surplus we no longer got money to trade with you.

and everyday say china collapse.
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post Dec 11 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 11 2025, 07:03 AM)
And if China suceeds in advancing their AI & Semicon technology n industries they will rule the world's manufacturing. Most other countries will only survive as being their raw material suppliers cos they r  just uncompetitive.
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Tariff, etc could shift price competitiveness.

QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:06 AM)
Can you even replace the supply chain? Where can take over China's role?
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Given time and resources, almost everything is replaceable. it not necessary to replace prc by one country but could be by a few countries.

prc current situation is like japan in the 1990's. prc may have trade surplus but domestic consumption may be depressed for a few decades.


This post has been edited by icemanfx: Dec 11 2025, 11:16 AM

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