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 Japan accuse China J15 of radar lock their F15

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post Dec 9 2025, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 9 2025, 12:44 PM)
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Japan’s Defence Minister Shinjiro Koizumi accused China’s J-15 fighter jets of aiming fire control radar at Japanese aircraft during two separate incidents over international waters near Okinawa.

A fire-control radar lock is one of the most threatening acts a military aircraft can take, Tokyo lodged a strong protest, calling the radar lock a dangerous act that signals a possible attack and forces evasive action.

China denied the claim, saying Japan’s aircraft disrupted its navy during training.

The encounters are the most serious in years and come amid rising tensions over Taiwan. No damage or injuries were reported.
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fuyoh, F15 never get shot down before i think. getting locked is a big thing. japanese better don't memalukan F15 legacy woi
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post Dec 9 2025, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 9 2025, 01:54 PM)
lock mereka balik susah?
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japan F-15 radar already jammed macam blind man walking
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:02 PM

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why japan worry about china plans?
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:06 PM

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too much top gun


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F16 and F15 is old toy
better worry your population and local japmoi will take care by bharat
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 9 2025, 01:17 PM)
oh.... its just to shoot ground, immobile targets only?

i thought since the hype about carriers all being targetted and at risk... it could hit jets also...

then no wonder didn't use. haha
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Dec 9 2025, 01:57 PM)
fuyoh, F15 never get shot down before i think. getting locked is a big thing. japanese better don't memalukan F15 legacy woi
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151-0 record

but US air force often fought in non peer to peer combat
most 4th generation F-15 kills are 3th generation soviet jets which flew without AWACS & EW aircraft
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 9 2025, 01:02 PM)
They wrote Art of War and do you think they are not something they are good at?
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Ironically yes



Japan based their modern (then during WW2) doctrine on the Bushido quote that was written during a time of Peace

China she mentions (in a separate video) based it on the Art of War, pratcially can the hardware and the training pay off no one knows but high level wise they are based on something thats sound and conceived during times of war
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 02:14 PM)
151-0 record

but US air force often fought in non peer to peer combat
most 4th generation F-15 kills are 3th generation soviet jets which flew without AWACS & EW aircraft
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those record mostly contributed by IDF
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Dec 9 2025, 02:16 PM)
those record mostly contributed by IDF
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yes MIG-21 & 23 kills
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Dec 9 2025, 02:15 PM)
Ironically yes



Japan based their modern (then during WW2) doctrine on the Bushido quote that was written during a time of Peace

China  she mentions (in a separate video) based it on the Art of War, pratcially can the hardware and the training pay off no one knows but high level wise they are based on something thats sound and conceived during times of war
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Quantity vs Quality
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Dec 9 2025, 02:23 PM)
Quantity vs Quality
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nice

fight china to the last Japanese


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post Dec 9 2025, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Dec 9 2025, 12:55 PM)
Although China keeps on building and building its army, I do not think war is something it is good at.

Economic war only....
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then who is good at war? the united states? israel? iran? paki or india? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Dec 9 2025, 01:09 PM)
Practical experience is what counts. By a lot.

In a real war, their military command structure will be under very high pressure. Because they are authoritarian, their lower command too sked to offend their higher command. No flexibility, no trust.

This is their main weakness. Russia oredi demonstrated it in Ukraine.
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well, because russia was not actually launching a full scale invasion.

just for context. russia population 146 million, 150,000 army used when they invade ukraine, and no aircraft.

when germany population invade poland, population at the time is 70 mil, troops used to invade poland on the first day- The Germans had amassed an army of 1.5 million men for the attack along with 2,750 tanks, 2,315 aircraft, and 9,000 guns.

so that is why russia use the term "special military operation".



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post Dec 9 2025, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Dec 9 2025, 02:43 PM)
well, because russia was not actually launching a full scale invasion.

just for context. russia population 146 million, 150,000 army used when they invade ukraine, and no aircraft.

when germany population invade poland, population at the time is 70 mil, troops used to invade poland on the first day- The Germans had amassed an army of 1.5 million men for the attack along with 2,750 tanks, 2,315 aircraft, and 9,000 guns.

so that is why russia use the term "special military operation".
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They run out of tanks and using infantry assault now. Riding on the blood of its young men. Even using women now.

Keep updated.
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 9 2025, 01:02 PM)
They wrote Art of War and do you think they are not something they are good at?
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well, qing dynasty lost to foreign powers.

art of the war doesnt mean anything if you dont practice it.

one of the main teachings in the art of war is know your enemy, but at the time , definitely qing doesnt know their enemy well, and their military equipment.
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post Dec 9 2025, 02:56 PM

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the White House is silent on this matter . meaning the US navy will not get involved if there is a real conflict in future.
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post Dec 9 2025, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Dec 9 2025, 02:43 PM)
well, because russia was not actually launching a full scale invasion.

just for context. russia population 146 million, 150,000 army used when they invade ukraine, and no aircraft.

when germany population invade poland, population at the time is 70 mil, troops used to invade poland on the first day- The Germans had amassed an army of 1.5 million men for the attack along with 2,750 tanks, 2,315 aircraft, and 9,000 guns.

so that is why russia use the term "special military operation".
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blasphemy sir.... didn't you know the official western stance is now WW2 started with Russia invasion of poland... lol

japan and germany were the good guys.... communists bad...

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post Dec 9 2025, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 01:48 PM)
The 2nd F15 got radar locked for 30 minutes
looks like US made radar and EW are also no match for china's radar system

same situation like french rafale
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How you come to that conclusion about the F-15 capabilities?

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