china product >> consumer , RM100
china product >> MLM company (rebrand) + marketing + agent > consumer , RM2000

It means China is subsidizing you as a consumer. If you don't like it, you can stop buying. If you are a supplier, then you should become reseller and take advantages of government subsidizing you to earn more profit. No matter how you see it, you win. You don't want to win then it is your problem.

Meanwhile, government can always choose to impose tariff for whatever industries they want. Look at our EV prices.

at what cost? our jungles are suffering. hutan simpan being opened for durian

ayam got weird , the signboard hutan simpan bukit tinggi, but got many trucks came out with durian.

then when heavy rain, suprise pikachu when got severe landslide

ppl never learn

according to statistic. This is the average working hours per person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...ual_labor_hours


Cambodia 2,455.55 2,475
Myanmar 2,437.86 2,447
Mexico 2,255.00 2,137
Malaysia 2,238.27 2,197
Singapore 2,255.73 2,330
Bangladesh 2,232.35 2,419
Costa Rica 2,212.38 2,069
South Africa 2,209.09 2,191
Hong Kong 2,185.58 2,148
Thailand 2,185.45 2,093
China 2,174.35 2,169
Vietnam 2,169.59 2,132

on working hours, malaysia aint that much different from china or other asia countries.

asia country as a whole are usually working longer working hours compare to western ccountries.

it is the only way asia countries can try to catch up to western countries.

Where in Taman Megah? Still got vacant land ke?

China is not only subsidizing US consumers, but they also subsidizing the US Retailers, or like you said, Resellers (since they just resell the finished Chinese goods).
US can't even produce their own crap, but keep complaining about China "exporting over-production", even as they make Billions reselling those "over-produced" goods to their own citizens.

US so proud of their giant corporations and for having the most Billionaires from that.


When in fact, China is the one enabling them.

A lot more durian is produce in thailand, vietnam, philippines, prc, etc. it is a matter of when not if durian price will be in cabbage price level like abalone.

Oversupply in prc is huge and undeniable, and could takes many years to normalize. most local sme are suffering and many will fold.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Dec 10 2025, 11:26 AM

I think it might be the used cars sellers land plots.

Some ppl see consumer goods and i guess its fine thats the most visible part of their export.

But this runs deeper than consumer goods, its whole sale replacement of the value chain from A to Z from local and or european choices to PRC. Machinery, raw material, semi finished components, industrial consumables, tools, jigs, fixtures etc

So when the whole ecosystem has been scorched and its conquered by China and they are now in the position of absolute dominance including setting a price what then?

Again this isnt some company out inovating by introducing a killer IP or a manufacturing company applying something new like JIT or LEAN to gain a competitive edge its literally overproducing and relying on loans, extended supplier credit lines and minimal export rebates and burning up already low to non existent cash reserve to flood the market and hoping the other side dies first.

In some cases its foolish as some of these manufacturers just started and do not enjoy the reserves as some of the bigger conglomerates in this region. Just starting to make money go scorched earth

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Dec 10 2025, 12:27 PM

Why cry if they are paying & owners are paid for it?

Bec if omputih or SG buy and evict, takpe, bec we are operating in market economy.

Blame the greedy owner, jual to the highest bidder and not sedekah his property to MYsian at heavily discounted price...



Kan? 😆

Cancer???

More like panadol for the whole world economy

99% humans, once see money everything else forget. Including their mother.

This post has been edited by Hobbez: Dec 10 2025, 01:08 PM

You mean the tenants crying ....not the owner ... adui

If you have deal with CCP SME businesses, they will try their best not to follow foreign standards . In their POV their standard is applied world wide no matter what you tell them.

If what China is doing has nothing to do with capability, smarts or experience.....and is purely "relying on loans, extended supplier credit lines and minimal export rebates and burning up already low to non existent cash reserve to flood the market and hoping the other side dies first", why can't the rich Western nations or corporations do it also? They can print money endlessly, they control all the technology and patents, they claim they "taught China everything", and they have so many low-income countries willing to do the super-subsidized-manufacturing for them to beat China. So go ahead and over-produce their own over-capacity, and beat China at their own game la. Why need to go back to China with tail-between-legs and ask China to sell Rare earths and to buy their now-unwanted AI chips?

If China "stole EV's from Tesla", why is every Western country so scared of BYD/Geely/Xiaomi until need to ban here and there? Tesla is worth 5x of BYD+Xiaomi and had 1st mover advantage in electric cars, but BYD/Xiaomi is banned from Tesla's home country while China happily hosts Tesla's BIGGEST Gigafactory in Shanghai.

India started making Iphones for Apple in 2017, and now after 8 years of "decoupling from the evil CCP" they now make......a paltry 25%. Yeah, I'm sure skills,education and capability has nothing to do with it. Also, speaking about stealing from the West.....

And what you say smarts skills etc I don't deny. Nor do I want to argue with all you shared which I think is correct. But now it's purely overproduction on a large scale by manufacturers in most industries mostly outside the industries you mentioned by producing at barely beak even to kill the competition. Some of these guys barely have 10 year history but going scorched earth. But hey maybe they altruistic and want to benefit the world.

Unless of course you can find the screenshot to show they have successfully gamed physics and can fit two times more cargo into the same container or have found the 25th hour or fourth shift that their machines can run

Don't need to defy the laws of physics to beat America. Multiple Chinese EV companies are able to beat Tesla's Gross Margin....so no longer just "breaking even", whilst being banned from the "Biggest Consumer Market in the World"






Same goes for Huawei.

dont use cancer anymore later affected