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 Perodua CEO bombarded by questions on BaaS, debunk wrong info on QV-E battery lease

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ry8128
post Dec 5 2025, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:25 PM)
basically the battery price never depreciates... not sure if got people buy used QV-E or not. Coz normally ppl buy used car because it is cheaper. If it is same price as new (for the battery), doubt people will buy it.
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Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:37 PM

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bank do the work hahaha managing subscription.

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post Dec 5 2025, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:29 PM)
Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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yup plus u need to maintain service by P2 during all this time or the warranty/lease void.
btw nobody know for sure new tech will supersede the old tech battery.
Will P2 use new battery tech to replace when the time come or still install old tech or worse, recon whatever stock left to replace the battery?
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:40 PM

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worrying part is, they change the t&c for 'clarification'
which means, later they can also change any part of the t&c
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:41 PM

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if 9 years later thy still give the old battery tech

thn those ppl who bought the car really kena scammed kao kao
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:51 PM

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If they do lease, they should replace battery if it drops 10% in range or battery capacity. simple as that.

otherwise, just sell the battery and car together, and just let the normal warranty cover ... which is going to be 80% anyway with all the other EV brands.

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post Dec 5 2025, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 5 2025, 04:09 PM)
I dont have problem with this if the car price is 50k but the problem is the car is priced at 80k + this 32k shitty battery plan
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RM32k petrol can last how many years?
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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You can only sell to perodua POV not to outside dealer... so this is not in question anymore
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:00 PM

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This is what happens when u tongkat them
Open the car market already stop giving tongkat

The CEOs dont even buy this junk for their family
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:01 PM

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so to replace the battery after the "lease" is over, have to start the 9 year lease again, pretty steep for those shopping at 80k price point and then kena pay 30k on top for lease

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angelgemini
post Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM

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this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.



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post Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM

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Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Dec 5 2025, 04:51 PM)
If they do lease, they should replace battery if it drops 10% in range or battery capacity. simple as that.

otherwise, just sell the battery and car together, and just let the normal warranty cover ... which is going to be 80% anyway with all the other EV brands.
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actually they just warranty you the battery for 9 years + change new battery at 70%.

you still own the battery after you finish pay the installment loan of the battery.
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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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after 9 years, that car is a junk museum car already, now tech improve toooo fast.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:08 PM)
If I sell my 5 years old car, the new owner need to continue the remaining 4 years battery lease or need to start a new 9 years lease?
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No, if the offer still is wat it is. You can only sell your car back to Perodua.

What happen after that has nothing to do with you.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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This situation will not happen, you can only sold the car back to perdoua. So it will be bought back immediately. after that you are not even in the picture.

But if anyone wanna buy a 2nd QVE, he most likely will have to pay car price + 9 years lease battery again.

PS. that is not soalan susah. Just a non existing question.

This post has been edited by karazure: Dec 5 2025, 05:08 PM
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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I can frankly tell u, outside punya 2nd hand car dealer sure don't dare to buy this car since there is no indication of market value, most likely owner has to sell back to Perodua POV.

As for your 2nd question, the 3 months is advance payment, your total payment shall not exceed 9 years or 108 installment payment.

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:29 PM)
Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:10 PM

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too difficult of a product to be sold. no one understands
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.
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I see the only problem is interior space, the motor actually comparable to emas 7 and its battery size too. If you just compare platform it should be worth rm110k
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:04 PM)
after 9 years, that car is a junk museum car already, now tech improve toooo fast.
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My Yellow Kelisa still roaming around being a grocery car after 20yrs.

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