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angelgemini
post Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM

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this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.



angelgemini
post Dec 5 2025, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Dec 5 2025, 04:51 PM)
If they do lease, they should replace battery if it drops 10% in range or battery capacity. simple as that.

otherwise, just sell the battery and car together, and just let the normal warranty cover ... which is going to be 80% anyway with all the other EV brands.
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actually they just warranty you the battery for 9 years + change new battery at 70%.

you still own the battery after you finish pay the installment loan of the battery.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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after 9 years, that car is a junk museum car already, now tech improve toooo fast.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(dexeric @ Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM)
I see the only problem is interior space, the motor actually comparable to emas 7 and its battery size too. If you just compare platform it should be worth rm110k
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then actually very worth it, if the car same as emas7.
imagine you don't need to worry about the battery quality and insurance.
loan also lower., just that is 70% and not 80%.

QUOTE(karazure @ Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM)
My Yellow Kelisa still roaming around being a grocery car after 20yrs.
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after china join the game, car tech is like x10 faster.

last time, japan car, every few years only 1 face lift and 10 years only have some new feature.

now china car, every year new feature and face lift.
is like x10 the speed.

so ready to have a ancient car after 10 years.
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(fluotone @ Dec 5 2025, 05:15 PM)
seriously topkek way to complicate things….

and apa salahan buat ehailing? idiots….
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battery gg fast,.

maybe 5 years? gg already
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post Dec 5 2025, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:20 PM)
the battery you don't own it even after 9 years. You just stop paying to use it.
It P2 that own it. You cannot sell without P2 approval and carry to new owner
Will there be charges to do that, u can guess it?  whistling.gif
Like you said, let say now you paying and buying at 10K per kWp with guarantee replacement in 9 years. Let say u need replacement at 9 years, will u willing to pay 10k per kWp again or current price 4k per kWp for the same item? If replace with new tech, then maybe it worth since new tech maybe worth 10k per kWp but there is no written P2 will do it. Will u dare to take the deal and find out 9 years later?
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you got the point also, you don't really own it,
in the end u still need to give back to P2.
new owner can continue use it if don't mind degraded or he can sign new plan and change new battery.
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post Dec 5 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2025, 06:00 PM)
Please tell me you aren't joking. Car without engine worth it ma?
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is without petrol, the EV still got the motor inside, whahahaha

you buy ICE also without petrol inside ma, lol

QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 5 2025, 06:06 PM)
RM112k very worth it? laugh.gif

With that price i can buy emas 7, atto 3 or seal 6 with better range
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for P2 fan boy mah,



 

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