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p4n6
post Sep 15 2025, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 15 2025, 02:10 PM)
brother why wanna show off, gg
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Alot of people steal from TNB, be it Bitcoin mining or normal meter tampering or bypass. Earlier also got one house owner install Tesla charger find technician to install before his home meter to bypass. Also caught and pretend stupid dunno. Most landed also steal/bypass during renovation time …senyap only, if want to check sure alot will sink … but house one is small fries, likely TNB deliberately wait 10-20 yrs then to backdate…

This also not inclusive those illegal food stalls tapping from lamp post consuming local council electricity… if catch them will use gov zalim card

This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 03:30 PM
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post Sep 15 2025, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 03:13 PM)
In this case, user is paying promptly their bill.
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no. user is not paying. basically get free electricity.
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Sep 15 2025, 01:45 PM)
It should work both ways. TNB can definitely detect irregularities, but it requires more effort. Every substation has its own main meter, so they could cross-check and spot inconsistencies. But why bother when they can simply go all out to claim backdated payments, which is far more profitable for them?

There have been many cases where a tenant rents a unit for two years and uses it for crypto mining, yet TNB issues a backdated bill covering up to ten years. That means they can easily pocket eight years’ worth of extra charges. It’s basically daylight robbery. That’s why, in recent years, we’ve seen several owners hit with million-ringgit lawsuits from TNB.
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Please la, those who keep saying “why not just change the bill to the tenant’s name” to avoid trouble — did you even read the news? Property owners still end up in court even when the electric bill is under the offender’s name. And when that offender goes MIA, the owner can’t even reconnect the supply until the case is settled. So in the end, it’s just LPPL.
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Need to pressure current govt to revise existing laws or directly instruct TNB to change their BS way.
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:56 AM)
That’s why tenant stole energy to mine lah doh.gif
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the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM)
You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass.

The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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if not passing thru the meter, then how TNB determine how much electricity was stolen?
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM)
this

summore tnb system is advance already, can always cut off after exceed the deposit limit what
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but why TNB don't do this?
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 03:23 PM)
Alot of people steal from TNB, be it Bitcoin mining or normal meter tampering or bypass. Earlier also got one house owner install Tesla charger find technician to install before his home meter to bypass. Also caught and pretend stupid dunno. Most landed also steal/bypass during renovation time …senyap only, if want to check sure alot will sink … but house one is small fries, likely TNB deliberately wait 10-20 yrs then to backdate…

This also not inclusive those illegal food stalls tapping from lamp post consuming local council electricity… if catch them will use gov zalim card
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want to shout out to the gov who still retain the illegal row of shoplots near our place, but at least they're still paying, i think?

they want to bypass, if kena then it's their fault lor. akin to playing lottery, but praying that you don't kena strike instead.
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM)
the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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Either way the tenant manage to profit from mining becoz they averted TNB cost one way or another.
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:32 PM

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So many lazy landlords over here, go and get ur tenant la, work for real and check monthly if any tapered wiring.


For me I have epf, which KWSP have investment in tnb, if tnb rugi=kwsp rugi=less dividen for me

So fuck off and go work for once
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post Sep 15 2025, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM)
the tenants did not steal, they just don't pay for the electricity
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Betul......like the lowyat hero that didn't steal the smartphones, he just didn't pay for it. whistling.gif
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post Sep 15 2025, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 03:59 PM)
no. user is not paying. basically get free electricity.
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They are paying what is billed. Not paying what is not billed. The electricity being tapped will not show on the meter.

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post Sep 15 2025, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:13 PM)
if not passing thru the meter, then how TNB determine how much electricity was stolen?
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You have one big pipe channelling 15L of water to 10 bottles. Each of the bottles with capacity of 1L. By math, there is an excess of 5L that dunno went to where.

This is TNB problem… they can tell how much output from their local power station which serving hundred of houses/offices and they know how much recorded on each unit meter … but number doesnt add up … finding the leakage is challenging to them.


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post Sep 15 2025, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 06:12 PM)
They are paying what is billed. Not paying what is not billed. The electricity being tapped will not show on the meter.
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I repeat again. user is not paying anything.
nothing is tapped.
you may think this doesn't make sense and stupid but that's just how reality is.

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post Sep 15 2025, 06:34 PM

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post Sep 15 2025, 10:56 PM

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Most importantly, go after the government side first before talking.

You see, they can owe up to RM61 million — do you think it’s only this body doing it?

There are more, but TNB just keeps quiet because in the end, they still can’t cut the supply.

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post Sep 15 2025, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
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They culprit normally bypassing the meter..so its not recorded in tnb meter
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post Sep 16 2025, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(yed @ Sep 15 2025, 11:14 PM)
They culprit normally bypassing the meter..so its not recorded in tnb meter
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TNB irregularities can be seen from the substation, can audit one by one for all houses/shops served by same substation… TNB has right to check their meter and cabling as those are their assets. It is a difficult task but it shall not take more than a year to check.
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