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Chat Many tenants curi electric for mining
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM
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TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions …
This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 10:00 AM
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM) Fuuhhh, instead of putting the blame on pencuri, u r pointing on tnb. What logic is this lol. TNB also not penalizing the pencuri but landlord. Pencuri gets away.
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(rootbeer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:33 AM) tenaga should have in their system, when electricity overuse by 500.. cut terus - for resident property They cannot narrow down to per unit. Their central system shall be able to see sudden spike on average usage. But how to find is question, could be few hundred / thousand units served by one …
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM) Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto. You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass. The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar.
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 11:31 AM
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TNB wont able to pinpoint which unit is stealing however their pencawang of the area shall able to detect irregularities spike of consumption pattern as per normal consumption patterns … AI machine learning shit shall able to flag which pencawang … then deploy investigator to the area to tap and check … proactively preventing stealing of electricity…
However i saw the news previously, the owner suspect own tenant tap electricity, report police and TNB charge the owner RM 1 million backdate the usage stolen … wtf??
In that case, if i am owner, i will find electrician pays few thousand to untap the electricity (back to ori) will be cheaper than reporting to police and TNB.
This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM) Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record. In fact police does do preemptive crime enforcement not always wait for phone calls. Like conduct more frequent patrol around area with higher crime rates or conduct more roadblock …
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 11:49 AM
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In short, TNB will need to invest on some sort smart sub meter between pencawang to the user meter … like let say shoplot, every 10 units need to have another smart submeter. This will provide TNB more granular data on roughly which stretch of shoplots or houses that stealing electricity… from 1000 units down to 50 units making it easier to investigate…
And TNB cannot backdate charge owner more than 1 month something like that … so making them more proactive in search of the stealer ( if 1 month plus cannot find then they have to eat the loss)
This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 11:52 AM
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 12:52 PM) I say the real idiot could be TNB. it is clearly a design issue. this is how the Sarawak Energy (similar to TNB) works: 1. you abuse electricity too much. 2. SE come to your house and take away a "fuse" at the meter. 3. you buy a "fuse" and reinstall. 4. step 2 and 3 repeat. 5. you already profit enough. 6. repeat If you use a lot of= more profit, why confiscate your fuse? Electricity has no quota, right? All postpaid.
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 01:24 PM) because user is not paying In this case, user is paying promptly their bill.
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 15 2025, 02:10 PM) brother why wanna show off, gg Alot of people steal from TNB, be it Bitcoin mining or normal meter tampering or bypass. Earlier also got one house owner install Tesla charger find technician to install before his home meter to bypass. Also caught and pretend stupid dunno. Most landed also steal/bypass during renovation time …senyap only, if want to check sure alot will sink … but house one is small fries, likely TNB deliberately wait 10-20 yrs then to backdate… This also not inclusive those illegal food stalls tapping from lamp post consuming local council electricity… if catch them will use gov zalim card This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 03:30 PM
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 15 2025, 03:59 PM) no. user is not paying. basically get free electricity. They are paying what is billed. Not paying what is not billed. The electricity being tapped will not show on the meter. This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 06:23 PM
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p4n6
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Sep 15 2025, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 15 2025, 04:13 PM) if not passing thru the meter, then how TNB determine how much electricity was stolen? You have one big pipe channelling 15L of water to 10 bottles. Each of the bottles with capacity of 1L. By math, there is an excess of 5L that dunno went to where. This is TNB problem… they can tell how much output from their local power station which serving hundred of houses/offices and they know how much recorded on each unit meter … but number doesnt add up … finding the leakage is challenging to them.
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p4n6
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Sep 16 2025, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(yed @ Sep 15 2025, 11:14 PM) They culprit normally bypassing the meter..so its not recorded in tnb meter TNB irregularities can be seen from the substation, can audit one by one for all houses/shops served by same substation… TNB has right to check their meter and cabling as those are their assets. It is a difficult task but it shall not take more than a year to check.
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