QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 15 2025, 11:02 AM)
If not detectable, how tnb can even noticed it and estimate the loss?Chat Many tenants curi electric for mining
Chat Many tenants curi electric for mining
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Sep 15 2025, 11:10 AM
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Sep 15 2025, 11:14 AM
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Sep 15 2025, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Sep 15 2025, 11:10 AM) Well, not sure about TNB and Suruhanjaya Tenaga, but in Sarawak here...https://lawnet.sarawak.gov.my/lawnet_file/O...wNet%202024.pdf QUOTE Provided that if the precise date when the meter was tampered or damaged or when the supply line, apparatus or system was tampered, altered or adjusted could not be ascertained by the licensee, the amount of that loss shall not exceed five times the total amount of energy, that is estimated by the licensee to have been lost or dishonestly abstracted or consumed by the consumer, for a period of thirty-six months prior to the date of discovery of the acts referred to in paragraphs (a) and (b). Basically, they will measure the amount of power flowing into the property before starting the whole disconnection and confiscation operation. |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 15 2025, 10:30 AM) Reported to fb as useless as that is |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM) Pencuri will curi regardless unless we actually raid their shit and jail them since they lack moral. There has to be a system in place to dissuade such action. He's kinda right. Tnb should be able to detect the irregular usage and notify account owner for immediate action but they decided not to. Not doing anything is just neglect and equally detrimental. This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM) TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions … thissummore tnb system is advance already, can always cut off after exceed the deposit limit what |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Sep 15 2025, 10:10 AM) QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:20 AM) Pencuri will curi regardless unless we actually raid their shit and jail them since they lack moral. There has to be a system in place to dissuade such action. thisHe's kinda right. Tnb should be able to detect the irregular usage and notify account owner for immediate action but they decided not to. Not doing anything is just neglect and equally detrimental. tnb owned the system |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:28 AM
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Harsh punishment for 18 jan scammer spreading lies
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Sep 15 2025, 11:31 AM
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TNB wont able to pinpoint which unit is stealing however their pencawang of the area shall able to detect irregularities spike of consumption pattern as per normal consumption patterns … AI machine learning shit shall able to flag which pencawang … then deploy investigator to the area to tap and check … proactively preventing stealing of electricity…
However i saw the news previously, the owner suspect own tenant tap electricity, report police and TNB charge the owner RM 1 million backdate the usage stolen … wtf?? In that case, if i am owner, i will find electrician pays few thousand to untap the electricity (back to ori) will be cheaper than reporting to police and TNB. This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM) TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions … Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record. QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM) Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto. Smart meter also got way to bypass it la. The rate now is about 1.3k to 1.5k per meter. Don't go for those offer 500 per meter, itu scam punya, worst is u can't even report the fella for scamming you, coz you also trying to scam tnb lolThis post has been edited by dest9116: Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:31 AM) TNB wont able to pinpoint which unit is stealing however their pencawang of the area shall able to detect irregularities spike of consumption pattern as per normal consumption patterns … AI machine learning shit shall able to flag which pencawang … then deploy investigator to the area to tap and check … proactively preventing stealing of electricity… Correct. They charge based on the bill is under whose name. Worse is they also charge based on address, if under tenant name and tenant run away, they won't connect back the electricity until someone pays the backdated bill, in the end owner is the one suffer.However i saw the news previously, the owner suspect own tenant tap electricity, report police and TNB charge the owner RM 1 million backdate the usage stolen … wtf?? In that case, if i am owner, i will find electrician pays few thousand to untap the electricity (back to ori) will be cheaper than reporting to police and TNB. Best to just get someone to untap back, price about 800-1k per meter |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Sep 15 2025, 10:55 AM) Now that TNB implemented smart meter for many users, they should be able to detect illogical power consumption easily… eg how is it logical if residential unit consume high power 24hr nonstop? Surely it’s being used to mine BS crypto. I see your many postNo knowledge Ultra hate govt and the rich Mostly nonsense but you sound so serious U know what is curi tnb??? If a user consume with normal TNB meter Usage reflect on their bill, this is not curi If bill unpaid = outstanding bill, still not curi Curi = modified tnb meter or direct connect over meter. U know why your are poor? U hate reality n believe only nonsense You don't think. |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM) Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record. In fact police does do preemptive crime enforcement not always wait for phone calls. Like conduct more frequent patrol around area with higher crime rates or conduct more roadblock … |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:22 AM) Bro faham what is curi electric not, it means the meter can't detect, so it doesn't exceed the deposit limit le. Worst case is those tap directly from the electric wire totally no meter lol |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:05 AM) You may not understand the concept of how they steal electricity. The reason why it is called “stealing” because the cable didnt even pass thru the meter. Unlike the typical meter tampering and limit electricity passing thru the meter, they now perform total bypass. Same like owner rented the hse then the tenant killed someone in that hse, kenot find the tenant then catch the owner instead The way i see it, owner of property shall not be liable, this is as if a thief steals goldbar from goldsmith and store in the unit, so goldsmith cannot put owner of property responsible of stealing the goldbar. |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:32 AM) Ini macam police should be the one stopping thieves from stealing, instead police allow it to go on for months or years. They would have detected who have a lot criminal record. Smart meter also got way to bypass it la. The rate now is about 1.3k to 1.5k per meter. Don't go for those offer 500 per meter, itu scam punya, worst is u can't even report the fella for scamming you, coz you also trying to scam tnb lol QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 15 2025, 11:36 AM) Bro faham what is curi electric not, it means the meter can't detect, so it doesn't exceed the deposit limit le. Worst case is those tap directly from the electric wire totally no meter lol I managed to lipot several houses who curi electric in the past - they kana slap with hefty fine , if kenot pay then naik Court |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 15 2025, 09:59 AM) TNB shall be the one stopping people from stealing instead they allow electricity stealing for months or years then come and ask for payment … so they deliberately want to profit from that … their system would have detected irregular consumptions … They just say not my problem. The end.My job is to supply and collect lui, that's all. |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 15 2025, 11:45 AM) I managed to lipot several houses who curi electric in the past - they kana slap with hefty fine , if kenot pay then naik Court How u find out? I paranoid my tenant do bitcoin farming. Although electricity is under their name but tnb will still fuck me anyway because they could. |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:49 AM
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In short, TNB will need to invest on some sort smart sub meter between pencawang to the user meter … like let say shoplot, every 10 units need to have another smart submeter. This will provide TNB more granular data on roughly which stretch of shoplots or houses that stealing electricity… from 1000 units down to 50 units making it easier to investigate…
And TNB cannot backdate charge owner more than 1 month something like that … so making them more proactive in search of the stealer ( if 1 month plus cannot find then they have to eat the loss) This post has been edited by p4n6: Sep 15 2025, 11:52 AM |
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Sep 15 2025, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Sep 15 2025, 11:43 AM) Same like owner rented the hse then the tenant killed someone in that hse, kenot find the tenant then catch the owner instead You think they only steal electricity just 1 night issit? Also that's why tnb should notify irregularities. If not, how can owner know when to act?Murder only happen that one time. Unless it's death by torture over long time, then maybe can remand owner as complicit to said murder. |
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