QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Aug 29 2025, 09:13 PM)
use AI or chatgpt for free psychiatrist feeli read very popular nowadays and free
Anyone seeing a psychiatrist/psychologist here?, I'm just curious since I'm the same.
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Sep 3 2025, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 3 2025, 01:30 PM) To everyone, ignore this bloody rubbish advice. That is totally irresponsible & plain stupid to use any ai for such serious issues involving.mental & physical health.This is akin to asking ai whether you need life saving surgery & after all the specialist said you need otherwise will be fatal. Ai say u no need surgery & you follow ai advice instead of specialist. Already there is a disclaimer stating that chatgpt/ai may include.mistakes& not to use for medical advicelagi want to use it for such an important topic. About 2 months back, a guy inquired diet change & end up getting hospitalised for bromism. This post has been edited by arkasi: Sep 3 2025, 03:12 PM lurkingaround, Takudan, and 1 other liked this post
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Sep 3 2025, 03:37 PM
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if you are male, talking based therapy are not effective.
more and more physical movement are more effective. this is how i addressed my anxiety disorder. somewhat related: This post has been edited by zerorating: Sep 3 2025, 03:51 PM |
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QUOTE(arkasi @ Sep 3 2025, 03:04 PM) To everyone, ignore this bloody rubbish advice. That is totally irresponsible & plain stupid to use any ai for such serious issues involving.mental & physical health. self diagnosis and self help therapies are not replacement for real.... but it give you a point to narrow or gain another opinion quickly so you can ask your physician or psychiatrist.This is akin to asking ai whether you need life saving surgery & after all the specialist said you need otherwise will be fatal. Ai say u no need surgery & you follow ai advice instead of specialist. Already there is a disclaimer stating that chatgpt/ai may include.mistakes& not to use for medical advicelagi want to use it for such an important topic. About 2 months back, a guy inquired diet change & end up getting hospitalised for bromism. Even seeing psychiatrist, you will need to find psychiatry is right or a good fit for you, as not all are the same. some you dont feel comfortable opening up, etc. then factor in cost involved. hence I mention do AI for "free psychiatrist feel" ie test water before diving in deeper and find one that is suitable since TS didnt mention anything serious if you are bodoh enough to follow AI or forumer advise blindly without thinking thru, I cant help you there TsubakiKira and BL98 liked this post
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Sep 3 2025, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 3 2025, 03:37 PM) self diagnosis and self help therapies are not replacement for real.... but it give you a point to narrow or gain another opinion quickly so you can ask your physician or psychiatrist. tried using chatgpt, really helps for me.Even seeing psychiatrist, you will need to find psychiatry is right or a good fit for you, as not all are the same. some you dont feel comfortable opening up, etc. then factor in cost involved. hence I mention do AI for "free psychiatrist feel" ie test water before diving in deeper and find one that is suitable since TS didnt mention anything serious if you are bodoh enough to follow AI or forumer advise blindly without thinking thru, I cant help you there Help me to get different perspective |
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Sep 3 2025, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 3 2025, 01:30 PM) Popular, there are apps on this as well, but honestly they are just a bunch of echo chambers and I don't trust them one bit. arkasi liked this post
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Sep 3 2025, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 3 2025, 03:42 PM) Popular, there are apps on this as well, but honestly they are just a bunch of echo chambers and I don't trust them one bit. those apps are nothing compare to the those AI like chatGPT, crock, etc...however there is a downside with AI as well QUOTE ChatGPT will tell 13-year-olds how to get drunk and high, instruct them on how to conceal eating disorders and even compose a heartbreaking suicide letter to their parents if asked, according to new research from a watchdog group. The Associated Press reviewed more than three hours of interactions between ChatGPT and researchers posing as vulnerable teens. The chatbot typically provided warnings against risky activity but went on to deliver startlingly detailed and personalized plans for drug use, calorie-restricted diets or self-injury. |
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Sep 3 2025, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 3 2025, 03:37 PM) self diagnosis and self help therapies are not replacement for real.... but it give you a point to narrow or gain another opinion quickly so you can ask your physician or psychiatrist. Asalkan ko jangan bodoh pergi cari chatgpt bila you rasa mcm nak mati, then ok. AI will paraphrase and reaffirm the hell out of your statements without providing any tangible feedback, from my experience anyway.Even seeing psychiatrist, you will need to find psychiatry is right or a good fit for you, as not all are the same. some you dont feel comfortable opening up, etc. then factor in cost involved. hence I mention do AI for "free psychiatrist feel" ie test water before diving in deeper and find one that is suitable since TS didnt mention anything serious if you are bodoh enough to follow AI or forumer advise blindly without thinking thru, I cant help you there |
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Sep 3 2025, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 3 2025, 03:37 PM) self diagnosis and self help therapies are not replacement for real.... but it give you a point to narrow or gain another opinion quickly so you can ask your physician or psychiatrist. Sigh, the reason I got triggered because looked at your earlier post. You just simply said use ai or chatgpt without putting a disclaimer like in your second post where you warned that self diagnosis is no replacement for professional consultation.Even seeing psychiatrist, you will need to find psychiatry is right or a good fit for you, as not all are the same. some you dont feel comfortable opening up, etc. then factor in cost involved. hence I mention do AI for "free psychiatrist feel" ie test water before diving in deeper and find one that is suitable since TS didnt mention anything serious if you are bodoh enough to follow AI or forumer advise blindly without thinking thru, I cant help you there What u said is correct that finding a right psychiatrist is not easy. My aunt/uncle basically destroyed their son's life with their foolish pride & stubbornness by openly ignoring the big red flags & refuse to listen to others who.have first hand experience. This is serious kopitiam & we have a social responsibility to write in detail warning that ai has severe downsides & should it be used for medical consulting. It is at best only for general reference & we still need to see a professional Regardless, ai is very much to be use inly for trivial matters like how popular is a series type & not for serious medical, financial, etc matters. This is a public forum where anyone can read the replies & there are plenty of vulnerable people who.might think, yea it's a good idea I consult with chapgpt save money. You want to give advice in serious kopitiam must think of the.potential repercussions. If you are too lazy too explain in detail then don't bother. It's like you see your colleagues very depressed. Either u don't get involved because u feel it's too much trouble or be prepared to spend some time listening to their problems. Don't just butt in & say everything will be ok then walk off. That is a totally irresponsible move. This post has been edited by arkasi: Sep 3 2025, 04:46 PM lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(arkasi @ Sep 3 2025, 04:45 PM) Sigh, the reason I got triggered because looked at your earlier post. You just simply said use ai or chatgpt without putting a disclaimer like in your second post where you warned that self diagnosis is no replacement for professional consultation. TS just ask for the sake of curiosity, hence I answer based on that.What u said is correct that finding a right psychiatrist is not easy. My aunt/uncle basically destroyed their son's life with their foolish pride & stubbornness by openly ignoring the big red flags & refuse to listen to others who.have first hand experience. This is serious kopitiam & we have a social responsibility to write in detail warning that ai has severe downsides & should it be used for medical consulting. It is at best only for general reference & we still need to see a professional Regardless, ai is very much to be use inly for trivial matters like how popular is a series type & not for serious medical, financial, etc matters. This is a public forum where anyone can read the replies & there are plenty of vulnerable people who.might think, yea it's a good idea I consult with chapgpt save money. You want to give advice in serious kopitiam must think of the.potential repercussions. If you are too lazy too explain in detail then don't bother. It's like you see your colleagues very depressed. Either u don't get involved because u feel it's too much trouble or be prepared to spend some time listening to their problems. Don't just butt in & say everything will be ok then walk off. That is a totally irresponsible move. If TS ask for a specific problem that could lead to more serious consequences, then I would have probably answer based on a more serious note. |
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Sep 4 2025, 02:24 PM
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A while back, I had a bit of a panic attack and felt some anxiety creeping up on me, so I went for a 'charity' counselling. Its where they help with the first few sessions via a 'donation basis' and if you really have a case, they refer you to more formal help. So... it does feel better, if anything, talking it out, expressing feelings into words makes me see things more objectively, and telling it to someone trained to help cope with these feelings? even better. Life is hard as it is... getting help is not a weakness, but strength. arkasi liked this post
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Sep 4 2025, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 4 2025, 08:15 AM) TS just ask for the sake of curiosity, hence I answer based on that. Sigh, this.is my last reply to you. It seems you have reading comprehension problem & also the type die die must insist u are right.If TS ask for a specific problem that could lead to more serious consequences, then I would have probably answer based on a more serious note. Ts posted on serious koptiam asking those who.have actually seen psychiatrist/psychologist how are their experiences as ts is curious.The title itself says it all. Your post does not indicate that you are using the service of one hence irrelevant. If.you have no actual experience then please do not comment unnecessary. It's like people asking anyone ever use the service of this surgeon. Then you must butt in & say try this other surgeon instead eventhrough you have never need to use the services of said surgeon but just read that the surgeon is popular. In your case you are recommending chatgpt/ai as an alternate without disclosing that it is a trial product with errors & can be very dangerous to those who are vulnerable & must still see professional. Lastly, what do.you mean if ts had asked a specific problem, then I would have probably answered in a more serious note. This is serious koptiam where if you want pitch in. You are expected to give more serious reply. If too lazy then please stick to casual kopitiam where we can bs whole day also no one care. This post has been edited by arkasi: Sep 4 2025, 06:59 PM vyogan, lurkingaround, and 3 others liked this post
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QUOTE(arkasi @ Sep 4 2025, 06:49 PM) Sigh, this.is my last reply to you. It seems you have reading comprehension problem & also the type die die must insist u are right. To me serious Kopitiam is not a place for trolling and joking around but to discuss or post constructive and helpful comments.Ts posted on serious koptiam asking those who.have actually seen psychiatrist/psychologist how are their experiences as ts is curious.The title itself says it all. Your post does not indicate that you are using the service of one hence irrelevant. If.you have no actual experience then please do not comment unnecessary. It's like people asking anyone ever use the service of this surgeon. Then you must butt in & say try this other surgeon instead eventhrough you have never need to use the services of said surgeon but just read that the surgeon is popular. In your case you are recommending chatgpt/ai as an alternate without disclosing that it is a trial product with errors & can be very dangerous to those who are vulnerable & must still see professional. Lastly, what do.you mean if ts had asked a specific problem, then I would have probably answered in a more serious note. This is serious koptiam where if you want pitch in. You are expected to give more serious reply. If too lazy then please stick to casual kopitiam where we can bs whole day also no one care. I am recomending ChatGPT to get a feel of it. People also commented that they use ChatGPT and to get a different perspective. You are just too up tight about it. |
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Sep 5 2025, 07:29 PM
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How is it like to follow up at Govt. psychiatry clinic?
How often have to do follow up? How many sessions? How is waiting time? I saw people said long wait time, not that I expect fast public service but worry it might cause even more stress to a depressed patient. For adult working far away from Govt. psychiatry clinic, taking leave, travelling, waiting is already tiring. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(M2020 @ Sep 5 2025, 07:29 PM) How is it like to follow up at Govt. psychiatry clinic? I can't help you with government psychiatry clinic procedure as i.went to.private sorry.I can telp you with your follow up question/session.How often have to do follow up? How many sessions? How is waiting time? I saw people said long wait time, not that I expect fast public service but worry it might cause even more stress to a depressed patient. For adult working far away from Govt. psychiatry clinic, taking leave, travelling, waiting is already tiring. Thanks. You have to be realistic & realize from the start that there is no quick fix for mental health issues. This isn't like going to a GP & get meds for the.flu. Take meds & finish antibiotics then fever subside. Ok all settled. Nor is it like going for surgery then after maybe 2 -3 followups ok. No need to see surgeon anymore. Each patient condition is different & no psychiatrist will say ok you just need to follow up 5 more times then sudah settled, tak payah datang lagi. Doesn't work that way. The psychiatrist will have to diagnose & determine how severe one's condition is & whether meds is needed for treatment. After that, will have e to carefully monitor the patient for any potential side effects as each patient react differently to the meds. Some are lucky & don't experience any or very mild side effects. Others may find they can't sleep, weight gain, drowsiness, etc. If the reactions are too severe, then.may have to try a different type. Even if just need counselling, it will take time as need to find out the root of the problem & the necessary steps to help overcome it. Most relapse happened because the patient thought that after taking meds & recover or got improvement. Then can stop taking medication & no need to do.follow up. Unfortunately, doesn't work that way. My aunty/uncle at one point sent their son to gh & after a week he was acting normal.so the hospital discharge him & the silly fools instead of.monitoring making sure that he take his meds as it was obvious that he wasn't taking his.meds before that. They were more keen on pretending that all ok sudah settled & because the fellow wanted to go to bible college immediately. They just sent him.off without consulting a psychiatrist whether is it a good idea & worse they let him stay in the dorm by himself. Barely a month at dorm, fellow relapse & tried to.commit suicide. I am not trying to be pessimistic & I know no one wants to see a psychiatrist long term due to costs, time & want to.move on with your life. But it's important to realise that seeing a psychiatrist is.not just a quick fix & requires long term commitment. Even if you decide you want to be off meds. You can't just stop like that. You have to consult with your psychiatrist first & depending on your condition. They may agree or.not & even then may have to slowly taper off.meds not.just suddenly cut off. You can as you get better especially in the later stages slowly reduce the number of sessions needed. E.g. instead of once every 2weeks, can be once a.month instead. But it.takes time & cannot be done.overnight. Both you & your psychiatrist will have to discuss about reducing the number of.visits.togather & you have to.monitor & be aware if.your condition deteriotes. This post has been edited by arkasi: Sep 6 2025, 04:35 AM lurkingaround, Takudan, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(M2020 @ Sep 5 2025, 07:29 PM) How is it like to follow up at Govt. psychiatry clinic? Appointment set 9am. I usually arrive at clinic floor 8-ish. 5 minutes to get number. Waiting for my number to be called for registration around 40 minutes. Pay RM5 fee.How often have to do follow up? How many sessions? How is waiting time? I saw people said long wait time, not that I expect fast public service but worry it might cause even more stress to a depressed patient. For adult working far away from Govt. psychiatry clinic, taking leave, travelling, waiting is already tiring. Thanks. After that I go to the actual clinic front desk. Get another number to meet doctor. Wait max probably 2 hours, depending on how much people that day. Talk to doctor, earlier when I'm not quite okay is 30 minutes to pour out all my problems. Now is like just 5 minutes because I'm quite okay, not much trouble. Depending on your case, next appointment ranging from 7 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months or 4 months. Early case they want to see if you're okay with medication, probably they ask to come again in 2 weeks. How many sessions is also up to your case. The doctor will give you suggestion of what kind of approach you can take. Based on clinical guideline for my case, earliest is 2 years with medication, they said they will refer a patient to a therapist when the patient has become mindful. I'm not clear what they mean by mindful - I think it's like when you know your problem and you know how to live with that problem. Right now I come follow up every 4 months because I got no problem. If there is any problem during the 4 months, can call hospital general line, get them to call psy clinic to figure out to arrange earlier appointment. If emergency just walk to ED, they will call psy to see you. If boss didn't give you leave for the appointment, just ask for mc or time slip. The doctors are very helpful. lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(arkasi @ Sep 5 2025, 10:00 PM) You have to be realistic & realize from the start that there is no quick fix for mental health issues. This isn't like going to a GP & get meds for the.flu. Take meds & finish antibiotics then fever subside. Ok all settled. Nor is it like going for surgery then after maybe 2 -3 followups ok. No need to see surgeon anymore. I agreeEach patient condition is different & no psychiatrist will say ok you just need to follow up 5 more times then sudah settled, tak payah datang lagi. Doesn't work that way. psychiatrist and certified psychotherapist they do a different job there's also something like CBT or trauma healing that require deep diving. But I also heard if the patient is very stubborn there's no effective procedure being carried out no matter how professional the therapist is Only medications are highly recommended for those who have delusion in sightseeing or hearing something out of nowhere |
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me , went to hctm @ hukm psychiatrist before .. but now no more as the doctor told me my case not that serious but i can come to get a treatment if i need it in the future
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