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post Aug 19 2025, 12:41 PM, updated 4 months ago

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Do you have the courage to commit suicide if some problems cannot be solved or if they keep lingering around your emotions and thoughts and you are alone?
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post Aug 19 2025, 12:49 PM

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Got family? If you suicide, you are just passing on the problems to them. And they have to deal with the grief as well; and spend more money on funeral and legal issues

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It's an every day thought but I don't have the courage to go through with it
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Please seek help. If it's emotional problem, talk to a close friend. If it's financial/material issues, there is always the possibility to start again as can be read from those who have even undergone bankruptcy.
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Explain to me,

What kind of problem so big till you want to murder 1 person

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 12:41 PM)
Do you have the courage to commit suicide if some problems cannot be solved or if they keep lingering around your emotions and thoughts and you are alone?
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That’s not courage but cowardice.
There is nothing more cowardly than committing suicide.

Someone who’s brave would stay and face/solve the problem.

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post Aug 19 2025, 12:54 PM

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Not as easy as you think. Give it up and think of other options.
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I can empathy with TS when my depression hit during shit happening, but try to give your time to cool down first, then try solve problem slowly at a time. Unker also sometimes cry on my cat tummy when shit strikes hard
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Why don't spend all your money to consult a real Phycologist and really can't then you think others option.
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Learn how to let go.
Everything will come to pass eventually as nothing cannot be overcome by determination and time.

Never be selfish and always think of the ones that still care about you.


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post Aug 19 2025, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 12:47 PM)
No use one. it is just a surface consultation and can't be deeply till resolved
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Yeal. All those so called help is all just like sweet talk and nonsense but understandable since they nof in our place..

If really want to only choose when there is really no more and zero alternative

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Not courage, it's a coward to do so.
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You've just described depression. Maybe talk it over with someone?
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Aug 19 2025, 12:54 PM)
I can empathy with TS when my depression hit during shit happening, but try to give your time to cool down first, then try solve problem slowly at a time. Unker also sometimes cry on my cat tummy when shit strikes hard
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Aug 19 2025, 01:02 PM)
Yeal. All those so called help is all just like sweet talk and nonsense but understandable since they nof in our place..

If really want to only choose when there is really no more and zero alternative
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yes, depression hit.
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post Aug 19 2025, 01:13 PM

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Most people who said want to commit suicide are cowards. Those who really does, don't tell their problems but do. That why people close to the person wondered why he did it and never even heard of him telling he wants to die.

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QUOTE(kens88` @ Aug 19 2025, 12:49 PM)
Got family? If you suicide, you are just passing on the problems to them. And they have to deal with the grief as well; and spend more money on funeral and legal issues
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People who make that decision usually believe the trouble they cause to the family while alive outweighs their death.
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post Aug 19 2025, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:11 PM)
Yes, depression hit
yes, depression hit.
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Depression is a phase. Just remember once you get pass it, everything is normal.
Look at things from the outside, everything you feel is ONLY YOU FEEL INSIDE, OUTside the world still goes round and nothing changes.
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TS needs someone to talk to to feel better? i believe /ktards will lend you the ears. console.gif
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Again I am too poor to have depression. If I don't work for 3months. Issues may arise. Ha e to wake up every day brave the world, face corporate BS to earn money to live another month.
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QUOTE(em_on @ Aug 19 2025, 01:18 PM)
TS needs someone to talk to to feel better? i believe /ktards will lend you the ears.  console.gif
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bro. its okay if you're not okay. its okay. take a breather. cool down.
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Your body may be lacking certain nutrients, which could lead to chemical imbalances. Are you eating properly? Consider trying a Korean buffet, hotel buffet, or banana leaf rice. Eat more meat or protein-rich foods. Nourish yourself well. There are so many delicious foods to enjoy.
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ts, you matter.
it may not feel like that right now, but you do.
it's ok to focus on yourself more.

abit of a weird advice, but sometimes we need an outlet, can try talking to chatgpt. no judgement, and will listen to you instead of talking over you.

also if you need any help or advice on any subjects, no harm in letting ktards know, a lot of experts from many fields here.
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post Aug 19 2025, 01:50 PM

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Here is my situation but I cut it short.

I feel very tired in these 5 years in handling all my dogs alone and I have no rest at all.

Many problems happened, died, sicks and many many many.

No people will feel all the problems without attending.

I have no helpers and I am actively posting to hire people without success.

I need rest but I have no choice

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Suicide = ragequit.

To me life is like a game. Open world. You need to decide what is your end game, your purpose.

Everyone has different skillset and different starting point. Some have it easy, some in ultra brutal difficulty mode.

Being poor is actually not that hard. Hardest is u have handicap in mental/physical capacity.

Some ppl have their dopamine center fucked. Difficult to be happy. I think the main problem here is acknowledging your deficit in experiencing good feeling. Once u understand u are different. U will feel enlightened. I think this world biggest problem is everyone trying to convince everyone "happiness" is mandatory. What if u not going to be happy no matter what? Kill yourself start new game?

Leslie Cheung for example. His brain is wired differently. He didnt know. He was confused why he didnt have the expected happiness when he already has everything. He wont kill himself if he understand his own inability to be happy is biological.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:50 PM)
Here is my situation but I cut it short.

I feel very tired in these 5 years in handling all my dogs alone and I have no rest at all.

Many problems happened, died, sicks and many many many.

No people will feel all the problems without attending.

I have no helpers and I am actively posting to hire people without success.

I need rest but I have no choice
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sorry to heard that, but do you have friends and family members to reach out for help?
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post Aug 19 2025, 01:56 PM

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There is nothing in this world is unsolvable.

If it is unsolve now, take a rest...away from the issue for awhile. Come back again stronger to solve it..
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:53 PM)
Suicide = ragequit.

To me life is like a game. Open world. You need to decide what is your end game, your purpose.

Everyone has different skillset and different starting point. Some have it easy, some in ultra brutal difficulty mode.

Being poor is actually not that hard. Hardest is u have handicap in mental/physical capacity.

Some ppl have their dopamine center fucked. Difficult to be happy. I think the main problem here is acknowledging your deficit in experiencing good feeling. Once u understand u are different. U will feel enlightened. I think this world biggest problem is everyone trying to convince everyone "happiness" is mandatory. What if u not going to be happy no matter what? Kill yourself start new game?

Leslie Cheung for example. His brain is wired differently. He didnt know. He was confused why he didnt have the expected happiness when he already has everything. He wont kill himself if he understand his own inability to be happy is biological.
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Why you used Leslie Cheung as the example.

he reminded me something and he should not commit such.

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:50 PM)
Here is my situation but I cut it short.

I feel very tired in these 5 years in handling all my dogs alone and I have no rest at all.

Many problems happened, died, sicks and many many many.

No people will feel all the problems without attending.

I have no helpers and I am actively posting to hire people without success.

I need rest but I have no choice
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be human, know your limitation, and learn to say NO
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Commit suicide = coward
Living on = courage

Look into how to solve your dog issues, slowly. Ask for help. Just type anything.

Today is called a present because it is. Tomorrow will be a better future.
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QUOTE(blmse92 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:55 PM)
sorry to heard that, but do you have friends and family members to reach out for help?
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My friends - none of them are willing to help and just ignoring. Reason is very simple. They are dogs, not human. No matter how friendly and helpful to them last time, nothing is exceptional

My family - Only one of my sister to backup me when I need someone to attend.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 19 2025, 01:58 PM)
we can only eat so much our stomach can handle
we can only take in so much our body can handle
don't be God, don't play God
be human, know your limitation, and learn to say NO
but if you make it big, then there are plenty who share the same vision like you, I am sure you can pull string easily together, IF YOU WANT.
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No more big. I have distanced myself from those so called rescuers to dump their dogs to me anymore and wash their si fat n go home.

they are the existing one until now.


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I interviewed fews and most of them are those can't find any jobs and due to monetary concern, they have no choice to attend my interviews.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:53 PM)
Leslie Cheung for example. His brain is wired differently. He didnt know. He was confused why he didnt have the expected happiness when he already has everything. He wont kill himself if he understand his own inability to be happy is biological.
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mostly psychological, there are fewer percentage of people who are born to be antisocial or serial killer. Most are traumatized from own family upbringing and quality of living
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QUOTE(xCM @ Aug 19 2025, 02:00 PM)
Commit suicide = coward
Living on = courage

Look into how to solve your dog issues, slowly. Ask for help. Just type anything.

Today is called a present because it is. Tomorrow will be a better future.
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You are talking about the courage to abandon your dogs. Do you really think that is courageous?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:56 PM)
Why you used Leslie Cheung as the example.

he reminded me something and he should not commit such.
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I have met several ppl with similar tendency. They are depressed no matter what. Have difficulty feeling fulfilled. And each setback in life will.have tremendous effect, i will even say they all overreact on negativity.

These all are ppl that unable to look at life objectively. So they usually tends to be a coward that choose to ragequit instead.

To me.its very simple. Just continue living, have a job. Contribute taxes. The longer i live the more help i can provide in this fuck up world. I feel my next life cycle (im buddhist) gonna be worse off if i choose to restart by suicide. If i am not troubling anyone, why would i choose to suicide.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 12:47 PM)
No use one. it is just a surface consultation and can't be deeply till resolved
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true. after you talk to them you wanna die faster.
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Suicide is NOT a way to go
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Another depression is from the environment inside the kennel.

it is located inside the palm oil estate but still many people come in to catch fishes inside the holes.

The dogs are very alert and making noise every time. I would say, 80% in the day.

two plans that I am initialling

1.to give up them and release back to where they are from;
2.Look for another land to avoid people come in and catch fishes.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Aug 19 2025, 02:06 PM)
mostly psychological, there are fewer percentage of people who are born to be antisocial or serial killer. Most are traumatized from own family upbringing and quality of living
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Like i said. I met few ppl that just be depressed no matter what.

The latest is friend's boss. Married, beautiful wife, children all normal no disability. Rich as fuck. Business also all okay, conlanfirm wont fail. Already open 6 branches.

The only drawback is parents growing old. Started hospital visit. That guy hang himself suddenly. Apparently last depression episode is back in university. No ppl realize he battling depression although life seems doing well.

I am telling u. Its somwthing in the brain. They are in depressive mode by default. Their main problem is the world keep pressuring them to be happy like normal ppl, which they couldnt. So they stuck in this infinite loop of looking for happiness.
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Maybe you can tell us more to help, financial?family?work stress?
Time will tell, just slowly resolve one by one. why take so serious
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Taking on to care for another living being is not easy, dogs or humans. The responsibility to ensure their safety and wellbeing. Taking care of one's own need is a full time job own it's own, what more having to care for another.
You might have bite off too much than you can chew ts. It can be hard to let go, but sometimes you need to. That's why I don't judge when people give up their kids for adoption, I don't agree with it, but at times, some people might really not be up for it. Not saying it's the right thing, but it's the lesser of 2 evils, which I can't stand to judge, because I have not been in that shoe, and i hope i never have to.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Aug 19 2025, 12:53 PM)
Please seek help. If it's emotional problem, talk to a close friend. If it's financial/material issues, there is always the possibility to start again as can be read from those who have even undergone bankruptcy.
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no more close friend when he got a gf
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:14 PM)
Like i said. I met few ppl that just be depressed no matter what.

The latest is friend's boss. Married, beautiful wife, children all normal no disability. Rich as fuck. Business also all okay, conlanfirm wont fail. Already open 6 branches.

The only drawback is parents growing old. Started hospital visit. That guy hang himself suddenly. Apparently last depression episode is back in university. No ppl realize he battling depression although life seems doing well.

I am telling u. Its somwthing in the brain. They are in depressive mode by default. Their main problem is the world keep pressuring them to be happy like normal ppl, which they couldnt. So they stuck in this infinite loop of looking for happiness.
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there will always be an infinite amount of energy being balanced out. Nobody is perfect eventhough grandiose narcissism is encouraged in today age
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QUOTE(keong_boy @ Aug 19 2025, 02:16 PM)
Taking on to care for another living being is not easy, dogs or humans. The responsibility to ensure their safety and wellbeing. Taking care of one's own need is a full time job own it's own, what more having to care for another.
You might have bite off too much than you can chew ts. It can be hard to let go, but sometimes you need to. That's why I don't judge when people give up their kids for adoption, I don't agree with it, but at times, some people might really not be up for it. Not saying it's the right thing, but it's the lesser of 2 evils, which I can't stand to judge, because I have not been in that shoe, and i hope i never have to.
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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Aug 19 2025, 02:15 PM)
Maybe you can tell us more to help, financial?family?work stress?
Time will tell, just slowly resolve one by one. why take so serious
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I need helper and I need rest.

I have been working like this for 5 years without any rest day. Even CNY, I have to work from day to night.

I am very grateful that I never sick in these 5 years.

tell more? No one is willing one. I did have thread before but I requested Mod to delete it

I hope I can handle this time.
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got plan to work with another NGO? see if you able to move to KL? should be much easier to get helper here..
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QUOTE(keong_boy @ Aug 19 2025, 02:16 PM)
Taking on to care for another living being is not easy, dogs or humans. The responsibility to ensure their safety and wellbeing. Taking care of one's own need is a full time job own it's own, what more having to care for another.
You might have bite off too much than you can chew ts. It can be hard to let go, but sometimes you need to. That's why I don't judge when people give up their kids for adoption, I don't agree with it, but at times, some people might really not be up for it. Not saying it's the right thing, but it's the lesser of 2 evils, which I can't stand to judge, because I have not been in that shoe, and i hope i never have to.
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you got it.

I need to emphasize this that I was not a dog lover and I am not a dog lover. I just pity them.

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 01:50 PM)
Here is my situation but I cut it short.

I feel very tired in these 5 years in handling all my dogs alone and I have no rest at all.

Many problems happened, died, sicks and many many many.

No people will feel all the problems without attending.

I have no helpers and I am actively posting to hire people without success.

I need rest but I have no choice
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Bro you always have a choice.
You need a break. Take care of yourself first before you take care of others.
Take a vacation, go backpack travelling. Rest your mind
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:26 PM)
got plan to work with another NGO? see if you able to move to KL? should be much easier to get helper here..
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Many give me this suggestion but useless one. Our objectives are totally not same.

they rely on public donations and I am not.

I just need for another 10-15 years to clear off my responsibility which I believe I am owing them in the past lifes.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:26 PM)
I need helper and I need rest.

I have been working like this for 5 years without any rest day. Even CNY, I have to work from day to night.

I am very grateful that I never sick in these 5 years.

tell more? No one is willing one. I did have thread before but I requested Mod to delete it

I hope I can handle this time.
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Total how many dogs are you caring for now?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:02 PM)
My friends - none of them are willing to help and just ignoring. Reason is very simple. They are dogs, not human. No matter how friendly and helpful to them last time, nothing is exceptional

My family - Only one of my sister to backup me when I need someone to attend.
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Actually i dont understand your situation so take it with caution.

To helping others u need to do it from position with power.

The way u struggling with dog sanctuary thing give me the impression u are doing it wrong. You may have good intention and noble cause. But at the rate u doing, spiraling into depression, losing friend n family. I dont know man, maybe u are not fit to help. Why not volunteer urself to existing established sanctuary?
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 19 2025, 02:30 PM)
Bro you always have a choice.
You need a break. Take care of yourself first before you take care of others.
Take a vacation, go backpack travelling. Rest your mind
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Go travelling? how? Who is gonna back up me?

Don't say travelling, even once a week rest day is not possible.

may be someone can pay a visit and stay to work for 1 week, you will know the exact depression I am facing
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:32 PM)
Go travelling? how? Who is gonna back up me?

Don't say travelling, even once a week rest day is not possible.

may be someone can pay a visit and stay to work for 1 week, you will know the exact depression I am facing
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Go talk to SPCA.
Tell then its either they take the dogs in or they get released.
Some burden are too heavy for one individual to take. You try it , everyone suffers only
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post Aug 19 2025, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 19 2025, 02:13 PM)
Another depression is from the environment inside the kennel.

it is located inside the palm oil estate but still many people come in to catch fishes inside the holes.

The dogs are very alert and making noise every time. I would say, 80% in the day.

two plans that I am initialling

1.to give up them and release back to where they are from;
2.Look for another land to avoid people come in and catch fishes.
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An old woman once shared a story with the young,
especially those tender of heart.

She asked:
“If two siblings ride a boat,
and the boat capsizes—
one knows how to swim, the other does not.
If you are the one who can swim, what will you do?”

The young replied without hesitation:
“Of course I would rescue my sibling.
That is the honorable thing to do!”

The old woman chuckled:
“Honorable? If you rush to save without thought,
both may drown.
Instead of one funeral, your parents must bury two.
How quickly such honor would be forgotten.”

The youths asked:
“Then what should be done? They are our sibling!”

The old woman replied:
“First preserve yourself.
If the decision endangers your life, stop.
Swim to the shore,
then call for help,
or cast a float back to your sibling.
This way, at least the strong remain safe,
and the weak still have a chance.
The worst case is one lost, one saved—
better than both perishing.”

Then she added with a smile:
“Is this not the more rational way?
Kindness without discernment brings harm,
but kindness with discernment preserves life.”

-

Adapted from Mencius, 7A:45:
“To save a drowning person by plunging into the river without knowing how to swim is to harm oneself without helping another.”

Mencius emphasized measured benevolence: do not destroy yourself in the name of saving others, for then no one is saved.
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post Aug 19 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 19 2025, 02:35 PM)
Go talk to SPCA.
Tell then its either they take the dogs in or they get released.
Some burden are too heavy for one individual to take. You try it , everyone suffers only
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Brother, thank you very much. I love you.

I am closing this thread as I know, it won't get any help from here but it depressed me more.

Like what I said, suicide centre, talk to them and just sweet words and they are not standing in your positions to think and point to release the depression.

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