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post Aug 13 2025, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:59 AM)
Inb4, EEZ is not border/territory water.

By making the above 'correct' statement, i will be labelled as traitor.  whistling.gif
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what eez? we claim according to continental shelf rule.

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The continental shelf rule, as defined by international law and specifically UNCLOS, grants coastal states sovereign rights over the seabed and subsoil of their continental shelves for the purpose of exploring and exploiting natural resources. This rule extends the coastal state's jurisdiction beyond its territorial sea, potentially up to 200 nautical miles or even further if the continental margin naturally extends beyond that distance.

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 13 2025, 01:12 PM)
what eez? we claim according to continental shelf rule.
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Continental shelf only relates to seabed resources, and doesn't include the water column.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Aug 11 2025, 11:43 AM)
holy hell that is just slightly left of luzon, china so far come kacau
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coz 'South China' sea they claimed as theirs
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post Aug 14 2025, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(differ @ Aug 13 2025, 07:34 PM)
Continental shelf only relates to seabed resources, and doesn't include the water column.
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so you mean the oil belongs to us, china is only claiming the fish? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Aug 14 2025, 03:55 AM)
so you mean the oil belongs to us, china is only claiming the fish? laugh.gif
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Ah Tiongs are claiming the entire thing, 天到地
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post Aug 14 2025, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:12 AM)
Nowadays people are confuse about loyalty.

You say you are loyal to this country yet you support china's illegal 9 dash line.
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A lot people confuse about loyalty

Some leader openly support hamas and called it freedom fighter. i despised hamas which obviously terrorist who harm unarmed civilians.

I support two state solution while some keep shouting from sea to river slogan

Loyalty does not mean blind follower of leader statement

Singapore won due to pragmatism
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The last bit where they offer medical help rubs salt lol
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post Aug 14 2025, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 13 2025, 11:17 AM)
Nope, I didn't say that.

You are still in that it's either war or surrender territory mentality. You are thinking only by war, a country's sovereignty can be protected. That's why you are asking these nonsense loaded questions which no one sane would actually say yes.

What are you thinking? I would reply yes to those ridiculous questions? laugh.gif Get serious will you?
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Do u even understand the meaning of sovereignty? Or you are twisting the meaning of sovereignty to fit your narrative?

Care to elaborate to you, what do "peaceful negotiations" and"diplomacy" entail? Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"? Peace through appeasement?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? For instance, a sovereign country can't decide its own direction in aspects such as Economy, immigration and foreign relations?

So your "unnecessary conflict" is only at face value, meaning a weaker country gets to keep its border in name only, it also did not lose nor win in physical conflict, but in reality experience losses in other aspects, for instance, as a result of "peaceful negotiation", a weaker country relaxing immigration from a stronger country that would in turn affect the job prospect of the locals, is that your definition of victory? "No loss at paper/official capacity, but lose in reality"?

If yes, does that mean you subscribe to might makes right mentality? Weaker party has to kowtow to stronger party?

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QUOTE(imalmighty @ Aug 14 2025, 01:04 PM)
Do u even understand the meaning of sovereignty?
Yes.

Or you are twisting the meaning of sovereignty to fit your narrative?
Nope.

Care to elaborate to you, what do "peaceful negotiations" and"diplomacy" entail?
Engage with opposing party in negotiations to settle the matter peacefully, no matter how long it takes.

Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"?
Yes, and it's preferable to war.

Peace through appeasement?
It's called diplomacy. Or would you prefer a leader who settles all border disputes through war?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? \
No. It include A LOT of other matters.

For instance, a sovereign country can't decide its own direction in aspects such as Economy, immigration and foreign relations?
I have never said that. In fact, my opinion is the opposite. Please refer to my latest tered about sohai Pinoy president.

So your "unnecessary conflict" is only at face value, meaning a weaker country gets to keep its border in name only, it also did not lose nor win in physical conflict, but in reality experience losses in other aspects, for instance, as a result of "peaceful negotiation", a weaker country relaxing immigration from a stronger country that would in turn affect the job prospect of the locals, is that your definition of victory? "No loss at paper/official capacity, but lose in reality"?
Depends on what the negotiations entail. I am not the one negotiating. If I don't like the terms, then we should continue negotiating provided the other party also wants to. If they want to stop and resort to war to settle the issue, then we would have no choice, would we? All I am say is "EXHAUST ALL PEACEFUL MEANS OF SETTLEMENT BEFORE CONFRONTATION".

If yes, does that mean you subscribe to might makes right mentality? Weaker party has to kowtow to stronger party?
Sad as that might be, this is the nature of our world. Israel-Gaza conflict is best example. Please show me an instance where might doesn't make right in this world.
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People do like to ask me a lot of stupid questions shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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post Aug 14 2025, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 14 2025, 02:25 PM)
People do like to ask me a lot of stupid questions  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Hey, I'm asking you genuine questions to offer u a chance to uphold your reputation, and you call my questions stupid? Tells a lot about your character, that explains why many here look down on you.

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Sad as that might be, this is the nature of our world. Israel-Gaza conflict is best example. Please show me an instance where might doesn't make right in this world

U should have said this from the get go, save everyone's time, don't pretend. Previously, you talked as if you are neutral and does not have a stance.

Tq for showing ur true color.
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QUOTE(imalmighty @ Aug 14 2025, 03:30 PM)
U should have said this from the get go, save everyone's time, don't pretend. Previously, you talked as if you are neutral and does not have a stance.

Tq for showing ur true color.
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Isn't it true? You couldn't provide an example where might doesn't make right in the real world. Please don't give me hollywood movie examples. Real world doesn't work that way.

Then tell me how do you think the world works then? if might doesn't make right. I have an idea of what you might say, if it matches to what I am thinking then it's gonna be funny.

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post Aug 14 2025, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 14 2025, 04:02 PM)
Isn't it true? You couldn't provide an example where might doesn't make right in the real world. Please don't give me hollywood movie examples. Real world doesn't work that way.

Then tell me how do you think the world works then? if might doesn't make right. I have an idea of what you might say, if it matches to what I am thinking then it's gonna be funny.

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I never said anything regarding how the world works, either might or right, I am not obligated to answer your question, do not expect any evidence. I just want to confirm if you subscribe to "might makes right mentality", that's all, you yourself chose to answer me voluntarily, I did not force you also.

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Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist.
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

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At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel. whistling.gif But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 06:49 AM)
A lot people confuse about loyalty

Some leader openly support hamas and called it freedom fighter. i despised hamas which obviously terrorist who harm unarmed civilians.

I support two state solution while some keep shouting from sea to river slogan

Loyalty does not mean blind follower of leader statement

Singapore won due to pragmatism
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post Aug 14 2025, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 14 2025, 05:11 PM)
Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist. 
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

whistling.gif

At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel.  whistling.gif  But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.
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U must be real confused as ur statement did not disagreed with what i said
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U said hamas is terrorist but MY gov don't agree with your statement.... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 05:13 PM)
U must be real confused as ur statement did not disagreed with what i said
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post Aug 14 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 14 2025, 05:18 PM)
U said hamas is terrorist but MY gov don't agree with your statement....  rclxms.gif
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That y i said u r real confused
The earlier statement i made to highlight the confusion on loyalty

Loyalty does not mean blind following stance make by government or leader but make use of God given brain for critical thinking.

So in this case government say hamas is freedom fighter but what is definition of terrorist?
Harming unarmed civilians.
So it is clear cut hamas is terrorist regardless what government stance it. Nothing about disloyal when truth is as it is

So r u clear up ur mind now?

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Incorrect.
U might not agree with the gov.
But gov represent the people and the country especially when we deal with international/geopolitical issue.

Which mean hamas is not terrorist, but resistance group.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Aug 14 2025, 05:32 PM)
That y i said u r real confused
The earlier statement i made to highlight the confusion on loyalty

Loyalty does not mean blind following stance make by government or leader but make use of God given brain for critical thinking.

So in this case government say hamas is freedom fighter but what is definition of terrorist?
Harming unarmed civilians.
So it is clear cut hamas is terrorist regardless what government stance it. Nothing about disloyal when truth is as it is

So r u clear up ur mind now?
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post Aug 14 2025, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Aug 14 2025, 02:25 PM)
Are u insinuating that making concessions and compromises in exchange for border security is the definition of "peaceful negotiations"?
Yes, and it's preferable to war.

Peace through appeasement?
It's called diplomacy. Or would you prefer a leader who settles all border disputes through war?

Does your definition of sovereignty of a country only cover its border and does not include autonomy in other matters? \
No. It include A LOT of other matters.
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See that, on one hand he supports that sovereignty also covers autonomy in other matters, not just borders, now when he comes to other matters such as during negotiating phase, he supports making concessions and compromises, having leaders of weaker countries sign lopsided deals under duress according to him, is autonomy in other matters. Yes, he means being forced to make concessions is considered autonomy and in turn sovereignty!

Or perhaps his definition of "autonomy in other matters" do not cover autonomy to not make concessions and compromises during peaceful negotiations😅

He's so naive that he thinks bending over backwards to avoid physical dispute is the only and end all be all path towards victory. He is also naive to assume that the stronger party will always prefer not to escalate tension to armed conflict provided the weaker party makes enough concessions, naive to assume stronger country can always be satisfied.

Btw, call a spade a spade la, referring to making concessions as diplomacy is just sugarcoating appeasement.


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Ccp really kena trolled hard by pinyo

David vs golaith

Hope ccp lose to pinyo like

Usa vs vietkong

Usa vs taliban


Pinyo if they keep the pressure ccp gona make more stupid mistakes and shoot their own people

Support the underdog against imperials


QUOTE(70U63 @ Aug 14 2025, 05:11 PM)
Incorrect....
We (MY gov) don't label Hamas as terrorist. 
Just like majority of developed western nations don't see what Israel is doing as genocide

whistling.gif

At the end, who hold the power win because some of those most powerful party don't want to play by the rule anymore. This also applicable to many parties involved in multiple conflicts around the globe, including Russia, Ukraine, US and Israel.  whistling.gif  But some party still have the face (with the help of MSM and ignorant people) to claim moral high ground.
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This post has been edited by Raddus: Aug 14 2025, 08:05 PM

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