lower to 3%?

the refund process will cost gov more then they collected from 3%

without proper auto process for refund, gov actually spend alot to get tax guy to calculate the refund.

Eunuch cos if cannot do the right thing. Ask the enforcers of traffic and they likely tell you SPAD is more effective than APAD. SPAD has the authority to prosecute vs APAD which is toothless.

I do not disagree. Consensus wins. I suppose the rakyat prefers to pay more dnd higher taxes nowadays but looking at this thread……
INB4, this does not represent the whole rakyat aspirations to pay more taxes.

Nobody likes to pay more tax lah

Like I say before, some people is non-stop asking for GST to come back because it's for political reasons

The e-invoice issue still not kautim and people are already jumping the gun

My view is GST will come back someday but not today when we're not ready

Also, I would not like GST to come back when the next government is potentially PN who screw up badly during MCO

You want them to govern our coffers?

Now if you started off with this statement and cited specifics then i think we would have saved a few posts here and there

Again starting off with this instead of spouting a song that supposedly the majority are singing would be helpful

But i also dont know the rationale behind a water is wet comment when the bulk of my post you were replying is about the inherent inability of sellers to game GST

I'm like M4A1 or some sociopathic kid behind the computer i can understand, but older folks doing this, sorry not used to this sort of banter

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 11 2025, 10:15 AM

Really? Then why replace GST with a messier and more complex SST, LVGT, HGVT etc etc, which taxes more, then?

GST

GST with refunds withheld scored 3 times more than peak SST

with refunds given should be double conservatively

We have been using SST for decades before GST

So, all those years how we survive with so called complex system?

You so happy paying more taxes to government kah?

Ok. If you were given an option of GST(6%)vs the SST(10%?) LVGT (duno what rate now) +HVGT(donnu ehat rate now also) + digital tax (what rate now?) plus god knows what else, which do you choose? No options to say you don’t want either.

I know I will choose which one without even blinking.

This post has been edited by fongsk: Jun 11 2025, 10:18 AM

I don’t. That’s why I support GST cos everyone gets taxed, even tourists.

That is the system weaknesses, not GST weakness.

GST

I speak as a guy working for a manufacturer and a citizen concerned for the fiscal health of the country. GST collects more as its broad based

I think i've said it few times including in my posts which you reply to earlier

You do read them right?

When did i say it was a GST weakness?

Customs DG already said its a top down directive, i mentioned it above when someone said customs not ready. They are ready

And why bring up weakness when the question was what brings in more.

GST brings in more. Its literally public records in AG financial reports

cannot have GST becos last time bigh mouth and fought against GST which was implemented by BN. Now in power scared to u-turn

Do not disagree but the weaknesses in the system should be blamed on the GST as an effective revenue income vs SST.

I’m not sure how it is in other sectors, but in my field — one round of getting scolding is more than enough. We learn, we avoid repeating the same mistake.
But this administration? They seem happy getting scolded - knowing they will get scolding.

Every time the government update the list — sure will be scolded.

You think tax consultants don’t need to attend courses and seminars just to keep up with the changes?
You think corporates or SMEs don’t have to send their accountants and HR to retrain just because someone felt like tweaking another list?

So much time and resources wasted just to absorb the impact of these brainless decisions.

Anyone with common sense would aim to manage a smaller, focused list.
But no — our government proudly goes the other way.

They know they’ll kena tiu every single time — and still go ahead anyway.
Really seems like they’re asking for it.
Butt itchy for a public scolding — again and again.

Sometimes, I start wondering whether the decisions were made to benefits the one giving talks & seminars - every year new list, every year new talk la - expenses on the conference room, training, etc.

Honestly, this Chinese poem sums it up way too well — it’s almost like it was written just for them :-

说你又不听，
听你又不懂，
懂你又不做，
做你又做错，
错你又不认，
认你又不改，
改你又不服，
不服你也不说，
说你又不听，
听你又不同。

Shuō nǐ yòu bù tīng,
Tīng nǐ yòu bù dǒng,
Dǒng nǐ yòu bù zuò,
Zuò nǐ yòu zuò cuò,
Cuò nǐ yòu bù rèn,
Rèn nǐ yòu bù gǎi,
Gǎi nǐ yòu bù fú,
Bù fú nǐ yě bù shuō,
Shuō nǐ yòu bù tīng,
Tīng nǐ yòu bù tóng.

Translated version

You’re told, but you don’t listen.
You listen, but you don’t understand.
You understand, but you don’t act.
When you act, you mess it up.
When you're wrong, you don’t admit it.
Even if you admit it, you don’t change.
When asked to change, you resist.
And when you resist, you still say nothing.
You get told again — and still don’t listen.
Even if you listen, you still disagree.

If you're not happy, then why the heck you support GST

GST means everyone pays more tax including you

Don't bullshit here about everyone getting taxed lah

GST is just a more efficient tax but it's also a less equitable tax

GST imposes a higher relative burden on lower-income earners than on high-income earner

As for tourist, they can claim back refunds lah

because sudah ludah, takkan mau jilat balik. malu lah.

Like it or not, we pay taxes, be it SST or GST. No way out. So my preference is GST vs SST. It is not a matter of not paying taxes. It is an option of paying which version or system of taxation. I know I am more unhappy paying for SST vs GST.