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post Jun 12 2025, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jun 11 2025, 11:51 PM)
Today I saw news. Why the players name doesn't sound like local? and there's a photos labelling them with other country... Do they even speak bahasa? Betul ke team Malaysia?
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All got IC already. Their original countries coach likely no pick them due to intense competition. And Johor is rich. SG land also 30B.
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post Jun 12 2025, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 11 2025, 09:46 PM)
Our gene athletically inferior. 30-40 years edi trying with local player. Just need to accept the truth.
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Same here — I genuinely wish to see locally coached, homegrown players succeed.
There’s something special about watching one of our own rise through the ranks.

But the reality is… it’s very hard.
With the genetic disadvantages — smaller build, slower physical development — our players start at a disadvantage from day one.

Without a top-tier system to compensate for that, raw talent alone isn’t enough.
It’s not about giving up hope, it’s about understanding the uphill battle we’re facing.
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post Jun 12 2025, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Jun 11 2025, 09:49 PM)
Last time maybe now very strict with var you can easily get yellow card or penalty for playing rough.

The skills and tactical still matter the most. Nuno Mendes 1.80cm only still can pass through multiple defenders to score. Mbappe 1.78cm only.
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True, the game today is more protective — VAR helps cut down on reckless physical play, and smaller players do get more protection.

But let’s be real — skills and tactics alone still aren’t enough without the physical tools to back them up. Players like Mbappé or Nuno Mendes may not be the tallest, but they’re explosively built, insanely fast, and physically elite.

Also, Japanese players in Europe often thrive because they’re in teams surrounded by strong, physically dominant European or African teammates. That support helps cover their physical limitations and lets them focus on their technical strengths.

And we’re talking about top-level football here — the highest level, where even the smallest advantage can make the difference between winning and losing. At that level, every edge matters — size, strength, stamina, mindset, all of it.
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post Jun 12 2025, 07:57 AM

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All these new foreign players r playing for JDT state team as well?
mick84
post Jun 12 2025, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Jun 12 2025, 12:40 AM)
All got IC already. Their original countries coach likely no pick them due to intense competition. And Johor is rich. SG land also 30B.
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At least tau nyanyi negaraku kan?
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:14 AM

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Really got different. Their finishing is so spot on. If local players, won't have such quality. But still, honestly, I can't feel the proud. The feeling of cheering our team is kind of different too. Now more like club football.

This post has been edited by commonsense: Jun 12 2025, 08:17 AM
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Jun 11 2025, 09:49 PM)
Last time maybe now very strict with var you can easily get yellow card or penalty for playing rough.

The skills and tactical still matter the most. Nuno Mendes 1.80cm only still can pass through multiple defenders to score. Mbappe 1.78cm only.
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You forgot about the great Maradona, Rui Barros, Roberto Carlos, Romario, Paul Scholes.

All of them were below 1.70m.
Rui Barros was only 1.58m.

So yeah i agree with you skills and teamwork is more important here.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Jun 12 2025, 08:35 AM
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 12 2025, 09:33 AM)
You forgot about the great Maradona, Rui Barros, Roberto Carlos, Romario, Paul Scholes.

All of them were below 1.70m.
Rui Barros was only 1.58m.

So yeah i agree with you skills and teamwork is more important here.
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They 1.70 m tall pun. You see their body structure wonot?

That Imano Machuca eventhough a midget at 1.7m, his body is quite big like wombat one.

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jun 12 2025, 08:46 AM
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 12 2025, 07:40 AM)
Same here — I genuinely wish to see locally coached, homegrown players succeed.
There’s something special about watching one of our own rise through the ranks.

But the reality is… it’s very hard.
With the genetic disadvantages — smaller build, slower physical development — our players start at a disadvantage from day one.

Without a top-tier system to compensate for that, raw talent alone isn’t enough.
It’s not about giving up hope, it’s about understanding the uphill battle we’re facing.
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arif aiman is just fine
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post Jun 12 2025, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 12 2025, 08:45 AM)
They 1.70 m tall pun. You see their body structure wonot?

That Imano Machuca eventhough a midget at 1.7m, his body is quite big like wombat one.
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So you saying those tall players body structure are lembik?
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post Jun 12 2025, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 12 2025, 07:40 AM)
Same here — I genuinely wish to see locally coached, homegrown players succeed.
There’s something special about watching one of our own rise through the ranks.

But the reality is… it’s very hard.
With the genetic disadvantages — smaller build, slower physical development — our players start at a disadvantage from day one.

Without a top-tier system to compensate for that, raw talent alone isn’t enough.
It’s not about giving up hope, it’s about understanding the uphill battle we’re facing.
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I suggest use complicated term like disadvantage physical.
I hope no one pick up your post and start another body shamming war just like what happen to women beach volleyball between MY and CH
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post Jun 12 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 12 2025, 08:49 AM)
arif aiman is just fine
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Yeah, Arif Aiman is a gem, and I really hope that with the influx of heritage and naturalised players, he still gets to start — or at least stay within the top 22.

I read somewhere that FAM has identified 37 Argentine heritage players — that’s wild. It’s great for competition and depth, but we also need to make sure local talents like Arif don’t get sidelined just because others have overseas roots.

That said, in top-tier matches, you can’t afford to carry any sub-standard players — every position needs to be solid. So whether it's local or heritage, the best player should start — no free passes for either side.
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post Jun 12 2025, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jun 12 2025, 09:19 AM)
I suggest use complicated term like disadvantage physical.
I hope no one pick up your post and start another body shamming war just like what happen to women beach volleyball between MY and CH
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Maybe “physical disadvantage” is a better term than directly saying “genetic” or “small build,” just to avoid any unintended sensitivity.
The last thing we need is people twisting the discussion into a body-shaming issue like what happened with the MY vs CH beach volleyball situation.

The intention is not to shame, but to highlight the real competitive gap we face in elite sports — especially when we’re talking about international standards.
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Jun 12 2025, 08:14 AM)
Really got different. Their finishing is so spot on. If local players, won't have such quality. But still, honestly, I can't feel the proud. The feeling of cheering our team is kind of different too. Now more like club football.
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Especially gol Hidalgo tu — skip satu tackle macam takde apa, lepas tu sumbat guna kaki satu lagi.
Dion Cools punya tandukan pun steady gila — timing cun, padu, terus masuk.

Jujur cakap, player local kita belum sampai tahap tu.
Nak buat decision cepat, ada teknik, tenang depan gol — level lain, bro.
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 11 2025, 09:29 PM)
IIRC Malaysia has been bad with teams that have heights, which is why in Asia our worst opponents are usually the Arabs.
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Arab "Asian"

Should have kicked out Oceania and West Asia from Asia football.
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post Jun 12 2025, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 12 2025, 07:40 AM)
Same here — I genuinely wish to see locally coached, homegrown players succeed.
There’s something special about watching one of our own rise through the ranks.

But the reality is… it’s very hard.
With the genetic disadvantages — smaller build, slower physical development — our players start at a disadvantage from day one.

Without a top-tier system to compensate for that, raw talent alone isn’t enough.
It’s not about giving up hope, it’s about understanding the uphill battle we’re facing.
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search:
dutch height history

Yes, you can change the height thing in few gens.

It is all about wealth and diet which leads to so-called "athletically superior".

You can see the HUGE different between PRC and India in Olympics.
Indian kids are still malnutrition... on average.
Can't feed the people nicely, can't win medal in pro sport.

Yes, the right mind for the sport too, like JP and SK which both are ethnically homogenous. Better spirit and unity.

Globalization and family getting richer (than previous gens) lead to more food/nutrition variety, thus taller.

I'm 80s with less food/nutrition variety. The kids from 90s and 00s are getting taller slowly. U guys no notice?

This post has been edited by Meis: Jun 12 2025, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Jun 12 2025, 08:14 AM)
Really got different. Their finishing is so spot on. If local players, won't have such quality. But still, honestly, I can't feel the proud. The feeling of cheering our team is kind of different too. Now more like club football.
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Local player will become shot on target saved by viet goalie
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post Jun 12 2025, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 12 2025, 08:49 AM)
arif aiman is just fine
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Arif Aiman is one person.

That the exception, not the rule.
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post Jun 12 2025, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 12 2025, 10:53 AM)
Yeah, Arif Aiman is a gem, and I really hope that with the influx of heritage and naturalised players, he still gets to start — or at least stay within the top 22.

I read somewhere that FAM has identified 37 Argentine heritage players — that’s wild. It’s great for competition and depth, but we also need to make sure local talents like Arif don’t get sidelined just because others have overseas roots.

That said, in top-tier matches, you can’t afford to carry any sub-standard players — every position needs to be solid. So whether it's local or heritage, the best player should start — no free passes for either side.
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If only physicals really that important. Or else you bring in more experienced naturalised players also cannot enter WC2030.

And this 4 scorers already older also. Teamwork must start from young. Lamine and Mbappe train with spain and France team since kids.

Play with vietnam sure good enough but if face saudi , japan , Australia Iran dont think can win. If your mix and match naturalised team can beat these teams then have chance enter WC which is unlikely as they won't have good teamwork.

See WC UK 2006 stars players still lose. Somemore mix and match naturalised cannot oo.

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