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Vietmoi
post Jun 11 2025, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Jun 10 2025, 04:19 PM)
Apa nak heran
First wave of heritage tend to focus on parents from Malaysia
Matt Davies, Brendan Gan, Darren Lok etc 50% bloodline

Current wave of heritage focus on grandparents from Malaysia
So u get some very foreign names and feature with 25% bloodline

Indonesia heritage x bising
Malaysia heritage dengki pula
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Malaysouthamerica and Indonetherlands 🤣🤣🤣🤣
11c
post Jun 11 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Vietmoi @ Jun 11 2025, 09:43 AM)
Malaysouthamerica and Indonetherlands 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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vietnam send so many vietmoi out, why no heritage players ?
treblecase
post Jun 11 2025, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Jun 11 2025, 12:31 AM)
Why msia so proud when the whole squad is not even malaysian
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They finally realised after all these years that local players are useless & failures. Which explains why local club teams are allowed up to 15 foreign players. Gaji pun x mampu nak import players lagi…LEL.

Just be proud for now.
Vietmoi
post Jun 11 2025, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 09:45 AM)
vietnam send so many vietmoi out, why no heritage players ?
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Gov dont want to waste money for game 😁, rich Malaysia 😂
11c
post Jun 11 2025, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Vietmoi @ Jun 11 2025, 09:53 AM)
Gov dont want to waste money for game 😁, rich Malaysia 😂
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vietmoi overseas should have bring back many revenue for vietnam
badigol
post Jun 11 2025, 09:55 AM

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Waiting for such comment from racists retards.
11c
post Jun 11 2025, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 11 2025, 09:47 AM)
They finally realised after all these years that local players are useless & failures. Which explains why local club teams are allowed up to 15 foreign players. Gaji pun x mampu nak import players lagi…LEL.

Just be proud for now.
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Let’s be real — football at international level not for locals. Too small, legs too short. Need horsepower, not just hometown pride. 🇲🇾⚽️
treblecase
post Jun 11 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 09:55 AM)
Let’s be real — football at international level not for locals. Too small, legs too short. Need horsepower, not just hometown pride. 🇲🇾⚽️
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Yeah let’s be real. We’ve failed that’s the short & easy answer.

We’ve failed to spot & develop talents from our own people because of years of piss poor planning & through my own experience, lack of meritocracy in team selection be it at junior or senior level. That’s the longer than short answer.
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 11 2025, 10:15 AM)
Yeah let’s be real. We’ve failed that’s the short & easy answer.

We’ve failed to spot & develop talents from our own people because of years of piss poor planning & through my own experience, lack of meritocracy in team selection be it at junior or senior level. That’s the longer than short answer.
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Easy to blame FAM or the coaches — but what have we done to improve football?”

In the UK or South America, football isn’t just a sport — it’s a way of life. Weekends are for playing with your kids, joining local leagues, kicking around at every field and futsal court.

How many Malaysians do that?
How many parents encourage football over tuition or TikTok?

We want World Cup results without grassroots culture. That’s the real failure — and it starts with us.
fongsk
post Jun 11 2025, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 09:55 AM)
Let’s be real — football at international level not for locals. Too small, legs too short. Need horsepower, not just hometown pride. 🇲🇾⚽️
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Honestly I do not expect that we will conquer the soccer world. But during our heydays, we were one of the most feared soccer nation in SEA, almost on par with South Korea then.
Remember the merdeka tournament…. The merdeka stadium shook with our fans roar then….
fuzzy
post Jun 11 2025, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 09:55 AM)
Let’s be real — football at international level not for locals. Too small, legs too short. Need horsepower, not just hometown pride. 🇲🇾⚽️
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Size is just poor excuse. Messi is just 5'7, so we should think he can't make it in professional football?

I think football as a culture is just not ingrained in us. Yes, we like to watch it, but how many people actually is willing to play it day in day out, or send their kids to coaching academy, let them go padang and play, etc etc.

We also have other sports and entertainment that pulls away talents from football.
TShcmalaya
post Jun 11 2025, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 11 2025, 10:15 AM)
Yeah let’s be real. We’ve failed that’s the short & easy answer.

We’ve failed to spot & develop talents from our own people because of years of piss poor planning & through my own experience, lack of meritocracy in team selection be it at junior or senior level. That’s the longer than short answer.
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Sports science still lacking to produce 6 footer young local player like Japan or Korea
Current best pure local players are Arif Aiman and Faisal Halim, they have the skills and speed to beat Asian players but size still matter when go to WC level.. unless u are Messi which is 1 in a billion kot..
We will need 11 AA or FH to compete at Asia level but we only have 2… hence the heritage card jutsu come knocking
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:37 AM

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Chill lah, france football pun mostly banyak darah afrika hahaha
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 11 2025, 10:23 AM)
Honestly I do not expect that we will conquer the soccer world.  But during our heydays, we were one of the most feared soccer nation in SEA, almost on par with South Korea then. 
Remember the merdeka tournament…. The merdeka stadium shook with our fans roar then….
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To be honest, our so-called heydays were a long time ago — back when most nations were still recovering from WWII.

Many countries, especially in Africa and parts of Asia, were still struggling with basic needs — not football development. We were ahead because others hadn't even started.

Now the world has caught up, and we’ve stood still — or worse, gone backward. Living off old glories won’t get us anywhere unless we admit that and start rebuilding from the ground up.
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 10:18 AM)
Easy to blame FAM or the coaches — but what have we done to improve football?”

In the UK or South America, football isn’t just a sport — it’s a way of life. Weekends are for playing with your kids, joining local leagues, kicking around at every field and futsal court.

How many Malaysians do that?
How many parents encourage football over tuition or TikTok?

We want World Cup results without grassroots culture. That’s the real failure — and it starts with us.
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We used to have many good Chinese football players, but now it is down to zero.
Partly because Chinese parents value tuition over sports, and partly because SRJK(C ) do not have proper football fields.

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post Jun 11 2025, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jun 11 2025, 10:26 AM)
Size is just poor excuse. Messi is just 5'7, so we should think he can't make it in professional football?

I think football as a culture is just not ingrained in us. Yes, we like to watch it, but how many people actually is willing to play it day in day out, or send their kids to coaching academy, let them go padang and play, etc etc.

We also have other sports and entertainment that pulls away talents from football.
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Yes, Messi is 1 in a billion — an outlier, not the standard.

The average height in Europe’s top 5 leagues is around 1.82m, and it’s not just about height — it’s strength, build, and power. Our taller players? Often skinny and lack core strength.
Football at the top level is a contact sport, and we’re starting at a physical disadvantage.

Even Japan — highly skilled and fast — still struggle physically against the elite teams. They’ve made up for it with insane work ethic, tactical discipline, and a footballing culture that pushes players from young.

So while skills and speed are important, physical strength can often be the difference when the margins are tight. And that’s something we still haven’t caught up on.
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 11 2025, 10:40 AM)
We used to have many good Chinese football players, but now it is down to zero.
Partly because Chinese parents value tuition over sports, and partly because SRJK(C ) do not have proper football fields.
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Back then, the gap between school-level football and international level wasn’t that huge.
Some players could go straight from school tournaments to the national team — raw talent was enough to shine.

But nowadays, it’s a whole different game.
The standard has skyrocketed. Players go through academy systems, strength training, tactical drills, sports science — all from a young age.

If you’re not in that pipeline early, you’re already miles behind.
That’s why just being “good in school” today isn’t enough — not even close.
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post Jun 11 2025, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jun 11 2025, 10:26 AM)
Size is just poor excuse. Messi is just 5'7, so we should think he can't make it in professional football?

I think football as a culture is just not ingrained in us. Yes, we like to watch it, but how many people actually is willing to play it day in day out, or send their kids to coaching academy, let them go padang and play, etc etc.

We also have other sports and entertainment that pulls away talents from football.
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Those South Americans are just have some kinda weird exceptional talent. They can be average in height, "trained" only on the streets, yets can produce talents that can beat European/Asian football academy players.

Its clear that they can do it without physical strength or years of football academy training, but the rest of can't.

Especially when it comes to Asian, we're quite frankly, below average in terms of football.
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post Jun 11 2025, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 10:39 AM)
To be honest, our so-called heydays were a long time ago — back when most nations were still recovering from WWII.

Many countries, especially in Africa and parts of Asia, were still struggling with basic needs — not football development. We were ahead because others hadn't even started.

Now the world has caught up, and we’ve stood still — or worse, gone backward. Living off old glories won’t get us anywhere unless we admit that and start rebuilding from the ground up.
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Do not disagree. We failed or move with technology and got left behind. Maybe I am oldies and like to reminisce in old days. But I like to see players that I can relate to, I mean when I hear their name, I know who or which race they are. Not a racist but I can relate. Now, it is like a South American football club. Remember we in K laughed at France and England for their players composition… guess karma is here to greet us in soccer nowadays. Anyhow, just commenting respectfully saja.
AyamBlend
post Jun 11 2025, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Jun 11 2025, 10:42 AM)
Yes, Messi is 1 in a billion — an outlier, not the standard.

The average height in Europe’s top 5 leagues is around 1.82m, and it’s not just about height — it’s strength, build, and power. Our taller players? Often skinny and lack core strength.
Football at the top level is a contact sport, and we’re starting at a physical disadvantage.

Even Japan — highly skilled and fast — still struggle physically against the elite teams. They’ve made up for it with insane work ethic, tactical discipline, and a footballing culture that pushes players from young.

So while skills and speed are important, physical strength can often be the difference when the margins are tight. And that’s something we still haven’t caught up on.
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have to start with PE Class, focus on core training and stamina, systematically
not just Ok penggal 1 kita ajar bola tampar, everyone warmup, jog 1 round, stretching, ok start

some PE class even just do carefree, cikgu sit beside relax, murid just do whatever they want within the class hour.

badminton famous , imo, also because it's free from weather (hot sun / rain) , easy to start - just need few people and hitting ball with racket, no physical contact with opponent

Dont get me wrong here, it's not easy to play badminton professionally, i'm talking about the body disadvantages since we were young and there's unlikely improvement designed along the way, except those gym-goer kind of "big muscle" - practicality u know i know

Even in basketball we could find some tall people but doubt they are capable to do intense sports as lack of fundamental

This post has been edited by AyamBlend: Jun 11 2025, 11:10 AM

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