Get non friends to collect on behalf and pay him some fee
It's common la
How much you won btw?

Get non friends to collect on behalf and pay him some fee
It's common la
How much you won btw?

depends on what law you are talking about

hey cousin, i can help u with that

- the non friend can fuck you up and keep the whole lot for himself

money laundering

Let say RM5 Million, just for discussion.

That part is well known, the hard part is

- how to get those money into your account without alerting LHDN or MACC
- the non friend can fuck you up and keep the whole lot for himself

no one is going to be a sohai to take the risk with LHDN and collect on your behalf. do you know how messy it will get for him??

setup an entity and claim the prize via this entity

You can't.

That's why judi adalah haram.

Gotta put on laundering money thinking hat dy

2. Setup a business that accept lots of cash - like car wash or makan places
2. Generate invoice RM1000 per car washed or RM500 per plate sold

Are they going to confiscate all your winnings or just a small fine?

Are they going to confiscate all your winnings or just a small fine?

Let say RM5 Million, just for discussion.

That part is well known, the hard part is

- how to get those money into your account without alerting LHDN or MACC
- the non friend can fuck you up and keep the whole lot for himself

Assuming you non friend is honest and just take a small commisison you just stuck with problem 1

Off the bat after lunch thought exercise i can think of this but again requires someone to take a commission

Sell of (a) family property(ies) above market value. LHDN will only query i think if its way below, they after ppl who want to skim on stamp duty. Above will they pay that much attention? Who knows maybe not

Get a rich person to buy, you give him the cash to do so but he will of course take another commission

So yeah i can think of this at the moment

However if you really got 5 million you want to wash and willing to pay money for some good advice i could brainstorm one weekend for this shit with multiple options with associated risk. Give you a con-sultant style report

Gambling is Haram but not guilty under Malaysia Law i think. You still can collect they prize even you are muslim. Just that Islam will look you down lo like how muslim girl without tudung people look down.

lets go bowling first

Let me collect for you.

I get 60, you 40..amacam? 

Let say RM5 Million, just for discussion.

That part is well known, the hard part is

- how to get those money into your account without alerting LHDN or MACC
- the non friend can fuck you up and keep the whole lot for himself

Let say the amount is RM5 million.
My solution:

- Hire a lawyer to draw up a deal between me and my non friend
- pays my non friend the agreed amount, (10% - 50%) range
- my non friend already have a company, he hires me
- pay me a very good realistic monthly salary, with EPF and shit. (RM10-15k)
- come in once a month or so, just to make it official. Then claim WFH most of the time
- Ask friend to buy gold every month, give it to me for safekeeping. (RM10-20k)
- Sell the gold if needed and keep receipt as proof
- If authorities ask, non friend can show receipt and claim lost in gambling/theft
- open a Ramly burger stall and buy a real stall and put it somewhere near house. Launder money.

Get non friend to get the prize money. Ask them to convert cash to physical gold. Pay non a 5-10% fee of total winnings

Let say RM5 Million, just for discussion.

That part is well known, the hard part is

- how to get those money into your account without alerting LHDN or MACC
- the non friend can fuck you up and keep the whole lot for himself

Let say the amount is RM5 million.
My solution:

- Hire a lawyer to draw up a deal between me and my non friend
- pays my non friend the agreed amount, (10% - 50%) range
- my non friend already have a company, he hires me
- pay me a very good realistic monthly salary, with EPF and shit. (RM10-15k)
- come in once a month or so, just to make it official. Then claim WFH most of the time
- Ask friend to buy gold every month, give it to me for safekeeping. (RM10-20k)
- Sell the gold if needed and keep receipt as proof
- If authorities ask, non friend can show receipt and claim lost in gambling/theft
- open a Ramly burger stall and buy a real stall and put it somewhere near house. Launder money.

No need to get your non-friend to hire you in his company
You setup yours and invoice your non-friend a large consultant fee

bitcoin kan use for money laundering. Use bitcoin

If you favour a pension style payout over a long period of time and again requires someone to take a commission

You need a buddy with a company. Have him appoint yourself as a director or staff there. Draw a 20K or more salary but in actuality you are funelling him the money. Businessman no issue he can think of many ways to funnel in your cash as revenue. But for all the PCB and socso he has to pay he gonna take a big cut also

Why do I need a consultant to pay me money for my company?
Isn't it the other way around?
He pays me money to be his company's consultant?

I want to use money for legal purchase of house, cars, groceries and whatnot.
Eventually, I need to put some cash in my account,
Large amount of money from Bitcoin will alert the authorities

2) Business Partnership (Real Work)-  Set up a small legit business. He invest the lottery funds. You become a partner or employee, gets a salary or profit-sharing.

Hello PDRM, LHDN, JAKIM

Just FYI.

Structuring fake employment is fraud. We hire each other IRL, both have companies in the same field. The most I've paid him is RM10k for a project
Using gold to disguise income is traceable. Fake loss/gambling claims don’t hold up. Opening a stall to ‘launder’ the money is illegal.

If you're serious and want a legally clean :

1) If you give him the winning ticket as a gift before it's redeemed, he become the legal winner. This is clean legally. he will claim it, pay taxes if any, and he can choose to “gift” you funds over time(monthly gifts). No contract required. Just goodwill and clean record-keeping. Tapi trusted ke? That is why I use a lawyer, to pen up agreement

Pro: Safe, simple, and keeps both parties out of trouble.
Con: You can’t legally demand anything from him later, unless a contract was made before the win is claimed.
-He then gift you money from his own income (not as a condition, but out of goodwill).

2) Business Partnership (Real Work)-  Set up a small legit business. He invest the lottery funds. You become a partner or employee, gets a salary or profit-sharing. This is a good one

Pro: Legitimate income, EPF, receipts.
Con: Requires real work or at least credible business activity. Lots of passive income business around like laundromat or vending machine

3) Family Loan Structure - Treat the money as a personal loan from him to you. Draft a simple loan agreement with a lawyer or commissioner for oaths. Monthly repayments or support can be labeled as “loan forgiveness.” Good one

4) Charitable Trust - If you are religious and doesn’t want to benefit personally, but also doesn’t want the money wasted: Set up a charitable trust (waqf) under his name or anonymously. Use the funds to help others while still honoring your win. Nope

Pro: Clean paper trail, no “hidden salary.”
Con: Still needs honesty and trust between both of you.

Yes you provide some sort of consultancy service to his company. One shot can invoice a lot

am not gonna lie, i always dream something like this lol

got few nons as my best friend, what i wanna do is pay them to buy number, if hit jackpot then split 50/50 lol, he claim the money and give half to me as a GIFT... haha wild dreams

I worked for him so many times IRL and vice versa.
My salary per project is 4-5 figures depending on how many days I come.

well, lottery win is now allowed?

He can just say he bought the ticket.
If they see no CCTV proof, worst come to worst,
then just say he paid me to buy the ticket because busy work.
So technically, he paid for it.

I mean, it is already taxed/will be taxed right?

Actually if my friend wins (and yeah a malay dude who is willing to approach me to redeem would be a close friend) i just say you settle whatever income tax i attract and belanja me makan. You keep it. Its your luck, not mine

Most nons i know share the same principle. When ppl win in gambling its their prerogative to give you something, its not an entitlement. End of they day its not like we belanja them makan or spend on them when they lose right?

Actually if my friend wins (and yeah a malay dude who is willing to approach me to redeem would be a close friend) i just say you settle whatever income tax i attract and belanja me makan. You keep it. Its your luck, not mine

Most nons i know share the same principle. When ppl win in gambling its their prerogative to give you something, its not an entitlement. End of they day its not like we belanja them makan or spend on them when they lose right?

No no, you don't work under your non-friend.
You have to setup a consultancy company and invoice him for non-existence work

But got to be careful here

Big ticket payables and receivables any decent non shoplot auditor will vouch and check supporting docs

So the 5 million cannot be funneled one shot to the friends business. Over a period of time. And the invoices has to be spread out and not too big with some supporting paper work

Patience is the key

Serba kantoi because of what? Too big a sum to dubious ppl with little to no supporting docs

if i was the non friend, i will unfriend u once i get the ticket

Gambling is Haram but not guilty under Malaysia Law i think. You still can collect they prize even you are muslim. Just that Islam will look you down lo like how muslim girl without tudung people look down.

anyone actually go to HQ and ask before bout tis ?......can a Muslim claim prize money?......are they obligated to lipot you to the authority?

first of all,

i don't think there's any law stating you can't claim prize winnings if you're from certain religion. so in that case, if you have the ticket, feel free to claim the winnings.
big winning they won't publish names (so don't worry about the name muhammed etc. appearing in the media/news etc.), unless you subscribe to those small lucky draws via apps, like massat chair then they will publish partial details.
the 2nd question i guess you'll ask comes from the first point, which will be, proof of purchase. One might worry since you're not allowed to buy, therefore the concern of it being forfeited.

here, you can concoct -usually they won't ask, and if they do.. (I DO NOT RECOMMEND, BUT JUST FOR DISCUSSION SAKE) reasons like...
"one ahpek bang my motor, but he used his last RM100 to buy toto, so he give me the ticket instead of cash. Since it's minor damage, i accepted the compensation of tickets"
hope it helps. reduce the risky variable like asking any nons to redeem winnings for you.

please play responsibly, and consider doing some good deeds with the winnings.

Legally, a Muslim can claim lottery winnings since the lotteries are legal, but religiously haram.

Just claim it, why can buy but cannot claim? Ask jakim to suck it up if they ask anything

takde kawan nons ke
suruh pi ambik lepas tu give share la

the company allowed to claim the ticket or not? if cant sell with discount but the problems is LHDN declare income

if i was the non friend, i will unfriend u once i get the ticket

Let say the amount is RM5 million.
My solution:

- Hire a lawyer to draw up a deal between me and my non friend
- pays my non friend the agreed amount, (10% - 50%) range
- my non friend already have a company, he hires me
- pay me a very good realistic monthly salary, with EPF and shit. (RM10-15k)
- come in once a month or so, just to make it official. Then claim WFH most of the time
- Ask friend to buy gold every month, give it to me for safekeeping. (RM10-20k)
- Sell the gold if needed and keep receipt as proof
- If authorities ask, non friend can show receipt and claim lost in gambling/theft
- open a Ramly burger stall and buy a real stall and put it somewhere near house. Launder money.

Haram to buy la not unlawful to win
It's not unlawful to buy either if not you see so many Muslim buying even polis

Hehe after the listen guys you know something called designated driver, here comes another gem to show you this carrot doesn't know the subject matter

well... people still died in the hand of drunk driver. it could be your mom and any of his boyfriend.

Boboi nobody disputing that fact

What I find lol funny is someone who probably never touch alcohol in life pretending to be a kaki minum masuk a thread in k wit some eureka invention... Designated driver

You can minus the cool story to make the point. But you just had to make a story with the most water is wet moment

Is pretending to be a guy that clubs or gamble the new in thing for budak baru nak up online?

How many tered you want to hijack to your drunk topics. Your mum never teaches you manners and respect other people tered is it.

bro, that is a very , basic plan.

hit me up when u really won the jackpot. with a modest 3% fees I can do it for you legally.

Haram to buy la not unlawful to win
It's not unlawful to buy either if not you see so many Muslim buying even polis

it depends on how they word this into the terms and conditions of the game

if in the terms, they mention all buyers must be 21 years old and non muslims, any violation of the terms can void the ticket u purchase. if it is not mentioned then got chance