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post Jun 6 2025, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jun 6 2025, 02:04 PM)
boomer mentality.
8-9am is actually not a good time as traffic usually heaviest if plan to arrive by those hours.

this is my argument:
i'm gonna giv 8 hours of work a day to company anyway.
working 8 hours a day +1 hour commute beats working 8 hours a day +3 hours of commute.
this is just example of how much u lost your life in unproductive traffic jam.
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Sign for internship, working hour starts from 8/9.

Come in late, claim overslept.

Salah mentality.

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post Jun 7 2025, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 6 2025, 11:44 PM)
Sign for internship, working hour starts from 8/9.

Come in late, claim overslept.

Salah mentality.

KEKWA
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time has changed, people thoughts & perception also has changed.
boomer refused or incapable to keep up with the changes.
just like fashion, taste, culture, practice, the norm changes over time.
people nowadays value flexibilities of working hours.
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post Jun 7 2025, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jun 7 2025, 01:39 PM)
time has changed, people thoughts & perception also has changed.
boomer refused or incapable to keep up with the changes.
just like fashion, taste, culture, practice, the norm changes over time.
people nowadays value flexibilities of working hours.
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Or you can just reject signing the internship if you don't agree with the expectations.

What you value doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to your whim.


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post Jun 7 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 7 2025, 01:41 PM)
Or you can just reject signing the internship if you don't agree with the expectations.

What you value doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to your whim.
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go on, keep up wit that kind of boomer mentality, u wont be able to manage gen z & next time gen alpha subordinates.

want to talk about technically of a legal document so much, your gen z employees wont answer your call/emails 1 minute early or after working hours.
non of them will be willing to work overtime for u when project requires it.
u wanna learn that the hard way, so be it.
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post Jun 7 2025, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jun 7 2025, 02:06 PM)
go on, keep up wit that kind of boomer mentality, u wont be able to manage gen z & next time gen alpha subordinates.

want to talk about technically of a legal document so much, your gen z employees wont answer your call/emails 1 minute early or after working hours.
non of them will be willing to work overtime for u when project requires it.
u wanna learn that the hard way, so be it.
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I manage them fine.
We communicate and agree on things to manage expectations
Unlike what you trying to say where we should throw all the policies out the window just to satisfy their value, just because they're from the new gen.

Anyway, I rest my case.


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post Jun 7 2025, 02:33 PM

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So what, theyre just interns, theyre not going to be absorbed anyway
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post Jun 7 2025, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 7 2025, 02:28 PM)
I manage them fine.
We communicate and agree on things to manage expectations
Unlike what you trying to say where we should throw all the policies out the window just to satisfy their value, just because they're from the new gen.

Anyway, I rest my case.
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u lack understanding of what each generation priorities, & stuck in your old ways.

i too rest my case.
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post Jun 7 2025, 03:55 PM

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wow didnt know this thread still normalising punctuality to finish work on time
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post Jun 7 2025, 04:17 PM

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1st.. they dont have commitment

2nd, their celery is ciput.. mao goreng mah goreng lo

If they got commitment ad, then will play the good game and follow the 9 to 5 6 7 8 or wadever needed

This post has been edited by Boomwick: Jun 7 2025, 04:18 PM
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post Jun 7 2025, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 6 2025, 11:44 PM)
Sign for internship, working hour starts from 8/9.

Come in late, claim overslept.

Salah mentality.

KEKWA
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jun 7 2025, 01:39 PM)
time has changed, people thoughts & perception also has changed.
boomer refused or incapable to keep up with the changes.
just like fashion, taste, culture, practice, the norm changes over time.
people nowadays value flexibilities of working hours.
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I am a Millennial and I have Boomer (in terms of thinking) boss and Gen Z as Junior.

Gen Z:
- Output is way better than my boss / me as they work really smart and know how to keep things fun
- They don't believe work rigidly like 8 hour stares at computers

Boomer:
- Die die stare at screen even if u have no work as long as u come to office
- U must be passionate about your work even if it's a data entry job


What I can see is that the STYLE of work is different and doesn't complement each other, but the OUTPUT is there. I have the same junior who come in at 10-11 am and go back at 3pm although I'm in the Government-related.

I can vouch their output and they are very direct or low empathy in terms of communication. For Gen Z, they believe if u give them to settle 3 tasks today, then they do the 3 tasks and then go back home to enjoy personal life.

Devote lesser time to corporate slavery and have more freedom. Their aim is not to be rich, but to be free.

That's what I can see.
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post Jun 7 2025, 05:25 PM

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Yes. No discipline because the father neutered by the mother already. Society has chosen, cannot be helped, this is destiny.

This post has been edited by Penamer: Jun 7 2025, 05:25 PM
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post Jun 7 2025, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Moshpit94 @ Jun 7 2025, 05:02 PM)
I am a Millennial and I have Boomer (in terms of thinking) boss and Gen Z as Junior.

Gen Z:
- Output is way better than my boss / me as they work really smart and know how to keep things fun
- They don't believe work rigidly like 8 hour stares at computers

Boomer:
- Die die stare at screen even if u have no work as long as u come to office
- U must be passionate about your work even if it's a data entry job
What I can see is that the STYLE of work is different and doesn't complement each other, but the OUTPUT is there. I have the same junior who come in at 10-11 am and go back at 3pm although I'm in the Government-related.

I can vouch their output and they are very direct or low empathy in terms of communication. For Gen Z, they believe if u give them to settle 3 tasks today, then they do the 3 tasks and then go back home to enjoy personal life.

Devote lesser time to corporate slavery and have more freedom. Their aim is not to be rich, but to be free.

That's what I can see.
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The fact is nobody arguing about their output.

It's not about style either.

I value flexibility too but you can't go on coming in late as you wish just because you overslept.

People keep saying this is a boomer thing, I don't agree. I allow my staff to be flexible and come in late if needed. But oversleeping is not a good reason.

Imagine everyone prioritizing their own needs and coming in at odd hours.




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post Jun 8 2025, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Moshpit94 @ Jun 7 2025, 05:02 PM)
I am a Millennial and I have Boomer (in terms of thinking) boss and Gen Z as Junior.

Gen Z:
- Output is way better than my boss / me as they work really smart and know how to keep things fun
- They don't believe work rigidly like 8 hour stares at computers

Boomer:
- Die die stare at screen even if u have no work as long as u come to office
- U must be passionate about your work even if it's a data entry job
What I can see is that the STYLE of work is different and doesn't complement each other, but the OUTPUT is there. I have the same junior who come in at 10-11 am and go back at 3pm although I'm in the Government-related.

I can vouch their output and they are very direct or low empathy in terms of communication. For Gen Z, they believe if u give them to settle 3 tasks today, then they do the 3 tasks and then go back home to enjoy personal life.

Devote lesser time to corporate slavery and have more freedom. Their aim is not to be rich, but to be free.

That's what I can see.
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this is true.
boomer always complaint that gen z not loyal, not being thankful of opportunities, but they failed to understand what gen z wants & what they r willing to trade for.

i giv my team a lot of flexibilities in the normal operation days.
when project comes, or incident happens, they are willing to put in hours, the works, & the effort, even on an off day, to get things done/fix.
an employee is much willing to spend 10 hours wfh, than 8 hours office + 1 hour commute.

but of coz such flexibilities cannot be applied in every industry.
f&b/retail for example, u cannot allow flexibility on when your shop opens.
but for industry that has no impact, there'a no reason why flexible hours cannot be implemented.
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post Jun 8 2025, 01:16 AM

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either we old ppl are slave mindset or them being too carefree.
My workplace everyday i'm 1st to arrive to office, open door, light, and turn on printer those.
Also cuz scare no parking space left so go early.
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post Jun 8 2025, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(oldKyoo @ Jun 6 2025, 09:54 AM)
its a gen z issue. the good news is that we no longer need to worry having upcoming competition to kick us out of mid-senior mgmt level.
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post Jun 8 2025, 04:07 AM

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well , manner maketh a man after all . gen z is loser

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