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post Jun 6 2025, 09:51 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Just morning rant.

My company usually take in interns from various university for various post. All of them are pursuing degree from local University. Now I have 4 engineering interns, 2 man and 2 women. I noticed that they have this kind of attitude, do as they wish. They came in as they wish, and clock out as they wish too. My company have this policy where u can clock in between 8-9am, and then u just clock out accordingly after 9 hours (8 hours working + 1 hour rest). From my point of view, we gave leeway already on being flexible on your working time.

However these interns came in almost 10, at least once a week. So my HR did an investigation and call those that have this problem. Their reason for being late? Simply overslept. Cant brain someone who went to university to overslept. I mean, they usually have class at 8am or 9am, they did their study for 4 years, and by this time they are not accustomed to waking up early? Don't they have to wake up early to pray also? I am not a muslim, yet I woke up when there is Azan because that is the way we are raised. Azan mean its beginning of the day. And this is not special case. Last year I had few interns with the same attitude, and some of my engineers also have this problem, especially fresh grad. Never in my life I was late to work due to overslept, even in my youth days where I partied until 3am, reached home and slept, and still manage to clock in at 8.30am.

I guess kids nowadays dont have that sense of responsibility and integrity.

Sekian rant untuk hari ini.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:54 AM

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its a gen z issue. the good news is that we no longer need to worry having upcoming competition to kick us out of mid-senior mgmt level.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM

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You need to bring light into their life.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:58 AM

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last time when i first started to work, i went into office at 6.30 am..

no one was there but i did my work anyway
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(oldKyoo @ Jun 6 2025, 09:54 AM)
its a gen z issue. the good news is that we no longer need to worry having upcoming competition to kick us out of mid-senior mgmt level.
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when I had the same problem last year with another intern and employer, i thought it just personal problem. Now it seems like generational problem. They just dont care. At this rate, my bangla even better, can wake up early to cook, solat and clock in at 8am.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:59 AM

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Ayam gen z and do the same
But depends on industry la, as long as I get my work done don’t kacau me can dy, just judge me based on the results
But depends whether can really do work, for me only excusable if your work is good. If work is like shit and do this then it’s unacceptable.

But if I clock in late I definitely do more and clock out later than I should’ve even after making up for the time that I’m late
And I don’t mind doing work off hours, I often do and respond to emails and messages in the middle of the night to other region teams etc
Just don’t like the rigidity, no actual point most of the time. I know some ppl work better under rigid structure but not me

This post has been edited by DogeGamingPRO: Jun 6 2025, 10:03 AM
maxpudding
post Jun 6 2025, 09:59 AM

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Hah

Welcome to gen alpha

They simply dont care

Please whack them

This post has been edited by maxpudding: Jun 6 2025, 11:46 AM
SUS*lightbringer*
post Jun 6 2025, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 6 2025, 09:58 AM)
last time when i first started to work, i went into office at 6.30 am..

no one was there but i did my work anyway
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I am not that rajin, but i do clock out late. I know I am not getting paid for overtime, but I do have sense of responsibility to get my work done. And get free aircond at office too.

Nowadays they are just plain lazy and ambitionless.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:02 AM

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Responsibility isn’t about clocking on time but their response when faced with a work issue.
Anyways I am kaki ponteng back in uni and sometimes work and walked out with a 3.7 ha ha ha
Obviously in the army time is everything and I’ll be dead so best is to find a suitable field

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post Jun 6 2025, 10:04 AM

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post Jun 6 2025, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 6 2025, 09:59 AM)
Ayam gen z and do the same
But depends on industry la, as long as I get my work done don’t kacau me can dy, just judge me based on the results
But depends whether can really do work, for me only excusable if your work is good. If work is like shit and do this then it’s unacceptable.

But if I clock in late I definitely do more and clock out later than I should’ve even after making up for the time that I’m late
And I don’t mind doing work off hours
Just don’t like the rigidity
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I understand, and that is why my company is flexible. U can clock in from 8-9am, and go back accordingly lah. During puasa, some of them clock in as early as 7am, and clock out at 4pm. I do understand that.

But for them to take advantage to clock in and out suka hati, not finishing work is just too much.

I dont like rigidity too. We are all adults anyway, somemore educated with degree. So act like one. Company gave them the flexibility, use it but dont abuse it.

My HR even told me some of the interns curi biscuit, coffee, milo to bring home bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jun 6 2025, 10:05 AM)

But for them to take advantage to clock in and out suka hati, not finishing work is just too much.

My HR even told me some of the interns curi biscuit, coffee, milo to bring home bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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Then itu memang sohai haha pantry also wanna sapu balik rumah
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jun 6 2025, 10:05 AM)
I understand, and that is why my company is flexible. U can clock in from 8-9am, and go back accordingly lah. During puasa, some of them clock in as early as 7am, and clock out at 4pm. I do understand that.

But for them to take advantage to clock in and out suka hati, not finishing work is just too much.

I dont like rigidity too. We are all adults anyway, somemore educated with degree. So act like one. Company gave them the flexibility, use it but dont abuse it.

My HR even told me some of the interns curi biscuit, coffee, milo to bring home bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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Actually every gen working also got some issues themselves
Then just focus on the most important - work output
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:09 AM

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Intern right? Terminate them within 24 hours? Set one as example. They will be fearful since intern is part of the study module. Failing one means repeat.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:09 AM

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if attitude problem will be really hard to fix ..

some ppl if kena "basuh" will ok one...

ayam these days reach opis 6.30.. go nearby bfast 1st .
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM

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Let them be. Don't forget that later yr company still needs to fill up their performance evaluation form. Just imagine them begging yr company for mercy when they're flunking their internship 😈
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM

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pay them more
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 6 2025, 10:06 AM)
Then itu memang sohai haha pantry also wanna sapu balik rumah
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Last time my HR got put maggi cup at pantry. Now they stop already because they caught interns curi bawa balik. Not one cup, but 3-4cups. Same goes for coffee, milo. Last time we used to provide 3-in-1, but they always bring back. So now my HR say we just buy the powder one, they mix themselves.


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post Jun 6 2025, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 6 2025, 10:09 AM)
Intern right? Terminate them within 24 hours? Set one as example. They will be fearful since intern is part of the study module. Failing one means repeat.
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My HR suggest the same, but I kesian. But I do know their lecturer personally, so Im going to lodge complain to them instead.

QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 6 2025, 10:09 AM)
if attitude problem will be really hard to fix ..

some ppl if kena "basuh" will ok one...

ayam these days reach opis 6.30.. go nearby bfast 1st .
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usually like that, especially when u work at KL. Most people I know will reached early, some go for breakfast, some just sleep in car.

QUOTE(kitkat86 @ Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM)
Let them be. Don't forget that later yr company still needs to fill up their performance evaluation form. Just imagine them begging yr company for mercy when they're flunking their internship 😈
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Exactly. Just wait until their lecturer come for visit, will show them the attendance record. But u know, being local uni, i dont think the lecturer care.

QUOTE(ps3 fanboy @ Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM)
pay them more
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They are paid Rm1,700 for internship. Its higher that what GLC or MNC paid for them.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM)
Last time my HR got put maggi cup at pantry. Now they stop already because they caught interns curi bawa balik. Not one cup, but 3-4cups. Same goes for coffee, milo. Last time we used to provide 3-in-1, but they always bring back. So now my HR say we just buy the powder one, they mix themselves.
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If intern all of this issue can just kasi stern warning if continue all this bullshit behavior then u will fail them

Unless they don’t care about failing also then nothing to say dy kek

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