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post Jun 6 2025, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jun 6 2025, 09:51 AM)
Just morning rant.

My company usually take in interns from various university for various post. All of them are pursuing degree from local University. Now I have 4 engineering interns, 2 man and 2 women. I noticed that they have this kind of attitude, do as they wish. They came in as they wish, and clock out as they wish too. My company have this policy where u can clock in between 8-9am, and then u just clock out accordingly after 9 hours (8 hours working + 1 hour rest). From my point of view, we gave leeway already on being flexible on your working time.

However these interns came in almost 10, at least once a week. So my HR did an investigation and call those that have this problem. Their reason for being late? Simply overslept. Cant brain someone who went to university to overslept. I mean, they usually have class at 8am or 9am, they did their study for 4 years, and by this time they are not accustomed to waking up early? Don't they have to wake up early to pray also? I am not a muslim, yet I woke up when there is Azan because that is the way we are raised. Azan mean its beginning of the day. And this is not special case. Last year I had few interns with the same attitude, and some of my engineers also have this problem, especially fresh grad. Never in my life I was late to work due to overslept, even in my youth days where I partied until 3am, reached home and slept, and still manage to clock in at 8.30am.

I guess kids nowadays dont have that sense of responsibility and integrity.

Sekian rant untuk hari ini.
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boomer mentality.
8-9am is actually not a good time as traffic usually heaviest if plan to arrive by those hours.

this is my argument:
i'm gonna giv 8 hours of work a day to company anyway.
working 8 hours a day +1 hour commute beats working 8 hours a day +3 hours of commute.
this is just example of how much u lost your life in unproductive traffic jam.
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post Jun 7 2025, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 6 2025, 11:44 PM)
Sign for internship, working hour starts from 8/9.

Come in late, claim overslept.

Salah mentality.

KEKWA
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time has changed, people thoughts & perception also has changed.
boomer refused or incapable to keep up with the changes.
just like fashion, taste, culture, practice, the norm changes over time.
people nowadays value flexibilities of working hours.
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post Jun 7 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 7 2025, 01:41 PM)
Or you can just reject signing the internship if you don't agree with the expectations.

What you value doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to your whim.
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go on, keep up wit that kind of boomer mentality, u wont be able to manage gen z & next time gen alpha subordinates.

want to talk about technically of a legal document so much, your gen z employees wont answer your call/emails 1 minute early or after working hours.
non of them will be willing to work overtime for u when project requires it.
u wanna learn that the hard way, so be it.
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post Jun 7 2025, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 7 2025, 02:28 PM)
I manage them fine.
We communicate and agree on things to manage expectations
Unlike what you trying to say where we should throw all the policies out the window just to satisfy their value, just because they're from the new gen.

Anyway, I rest my case.
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u lack understanding of what each generation priorities, & stuck in your old ways.

i too rest my case.
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post Jun 8 2025, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Moshpit94 @ Jun 7 2025, 05:02 PM)
I am a Millennial and I have Boomer (in terms of thinking) boss and Gen Z as Junior.

Gen Z:
- Output is way better than my boss / me as they work really smart and know how to keep things fun
- They don't believe work rigidly like 8 hour stares at computers

Boomer:
- Die die stare at screen even if u have no work as long as u come to office
- U must be passionate about your work even if it's a data entry job
What I can see is that the STYLE of work is different and doesn't complement each other, but the OUTPUT is there. I have the same junior who come in at 10-11 am and go back at 3pm although I'm in the Government-related.

I can vouch their output and they are very direct or low empathy in terms of communication. For Gen Z, they believe if u give them to settle 3 tasks today, then they do the 3 tasks and then go back home to enjoy personal life.

Devote lesser time to corporate slavery and have more freedom. Their aim is not to be rich, but to be free.

That's what I can see.
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this is true.
boomer always complaint that gen z not loyal, not being thankful of opportunities, but they failed to understand what gen z wants & what they r willing to trade for.

i giv my team a lot of flexibilities in the normal operation days.
when project comes, or incident happens, they are willing to put in hours, the works, & the effort, even on an off day, to get things done/fix.
an employee is much willing to spend 10 hours wfh, than 8 hours office + 1 hour commute.

but of coz such flexibilities cannot be applied in every industry.
f&b/retail for example, u cannot allow flexibility on when your shop opens.
but for industry that has no impact, there'a no reason why flexible hours cannot be implemented.

 

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