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post Sep 10 2025, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 02:43 AM)
so far most countries have telcos offer esims i believe. even china has esim but selected telco and not all, this is why esim is a deal breaker there.
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To make correction , china phone doesnt even support esim on china local (only china global unit phone support esim) , and their telcom doesnt offer any e-sim service for your information.

Even the user on china bought the US ver of iphone, they have to send to shop for drill a sim tray hole for physical sim.

What i heard is they baru mou start implement esim because of iphone air series, so by this few week china might only launch esim.

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post Sep 10 2025, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(neekun @ Sep 10 2025, 06:56 AM)
Undecided between iPhone air and 17 pro max…very likely I will go for 17 pro max because I do not wish to sacrifice camera and battery life for choosing iPhone air though the thin form factor is very nice  tongue.gif

Refer to https://www.apple.com/my/iphone/compare/ for comparing the iPhones.

Now I need to choose which colour, all 3 of them look nice to me leh……. :confused:
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Ask yourself do u need the ultra wide and telezoom ? I know alot of my friend who bought pro max with 3 camera setup but end up using the main camera only.

But if battery was ur main concern, then go for promax

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post Sep 10 2025, 07:06 AM

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Seriously , the silver look so great on iphone 17 pro
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post Sep 10 2025, 07:57 AM

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Think the selfie camera with new square sensor was the greatest thing on new iphone , u can take landscape selfie without need to turn your phone in landscape , by adding the square sensor into the dynamic island and that the reason why we dont see the dynamic island reduce in size which i think worth for it. We might see next year android phone will be copying this feature, hopefully they wil 😆

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post Sep 10 2025, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 08:00 AM)
yes, it is the best feature and very useful feature i would say.  tongue.gif
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Especially for pro max , holding landscape to take selfie photo is a pain , super heavy, making ur finger super sour 😆

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post Sep 10 2025, 08:54 AM

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I think the 17 will be sell good , because almost have all the feature pro had with less 1 telephoto lens.
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post Sep 10 2025, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 10 2025, 08:53 AM)
Yeah. This what really wows me during their keynote, no more need to rotate you phone for wide shot. So no other phone has this yet?

Also, anyone got info on maxis plan for ip 17?
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If ultra wide selfie camera , should be huawei the first , but taking landscape photo in portrait mode was the first on iphone.
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 08:58 AM)
yes, CP value is damn high. Those who bought iphone 16 will cry.  tongue.gif
iPhone 16 Pro → 17 Pro (same $1,099 for 256 GB tier)

Storage: 128 GB dropped, now starts at 256 GB.

Display: Brighter (3,000 nits), anti-reflective coating, tougher Ceramic Shield 2 glass.

Cameras: 48 MP across all lenses, 8× optical zoom, new ProRes RAW / Dual Capture.

Performance: A19 Pro chip + vapor cooling, faster sustained speeds.

Battery: +6 hrs video playback, 50% charge in ~20 min.

Design: New aluminum build, N1 chip with Wi-Fi 7 / BT 6.

Bottom line: 17 Pro adds anti-glare screen tech on top of more storage, brighter display, huge camera and battery gains, and stronger performance — all at the same effective starting price.

Want me to also re-do the Pro Max summary in this same tight format so all three (17, 17 Pro, 17 Pro Max) match?
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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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Yeah super super good value , not to mention wait 11.11 have laz shopee voucher, might hit rm3.5k? Haha
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:59 AM

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only get to know , the iphone air doesnt have speaker on the bottom , only have 1 speaker. So might be a downside if u care about sound quality.
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2025, 10:00 AM)
No more 17 Plus model?
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yes no more , they replaced with AIR


Really cant wait to see review on how the 17 Pro Max handle the heat smile.gif

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post Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 10 2025, 10:03 AM)
The only thing stopping it from being amazing is 8GB ram. If it had 12GB can forget about Pro unless you want the camera.

So… Pro has 4x optical and 8x “croptical”? I am not getting what they trying to confuse me with. Is it a real 8x optical or not?

And yes if I were to buy a Pro I want the eSIM version cause I want the battery. So significant on the pros!
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8gb is far far far far far more enough for iOS seriously especially for non-pro user , dont think non-pro user might see different between 8gb vs 12gb of RAM. Even my shop Old PC stil using 4gb of RAM biggrin.gif

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post Sep 10 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
They really target 17 for 14 & 15 users.
16 Pro Max users seems like very little incremental upgrade to 17 Pro Max.
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QUOTE(poooky @ Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
Very good move from Apple. Now even those who buy iPhone < 5 years will also hand itchy want to upgrade since got 120hz and 256gb storage as base model.

Many of these people start working buy iPhone say plan to use until end of life 7-8 years now change tune.

Apple marketing genius.
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yeah , now they need to target new customer with entry level product , just like the new M4 Mac Mini and the Macbook Air M4 , increase storage but reduce price , after Tim Cook take over Apple , damn long time didnt give people a "WORTH" feeling biggrin.gif

Last time when u buying Apple entry level product , feel like u are a pig that kena apple chop head biggrin.gif But now totally worth it.

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post Sep 10 2025, 10:25 AM

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Dont know next iphone 18 will be using silicone carbon battery? China alot of 6.3" phone already with SiC battery that capacity 5500-6500mAh. If it come true , then it will be good pocket size yet powerful battery life with iOS optimization. Then i wont ever looking for bigger phone to make my hand and finger tired biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 10 2025, 10:56 AM)
coming from ip12pm, should i opt to upgrade ip16pm or ip17pm?
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For sure ip17PM if u have the budget.
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 10 2025, 11:00 AM)
I dump Samsung just 4 that factor alone😄😆

Fk lithium ion man💥💥

Now i got 1 Chinese as business only phone

Personal flagship i still hmm.gif hmm.gif either Chinese flagship or 17 pro max lithium ion🤭🤭
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Let wait the 17 pro max telezoom quality first only decide , if the telezoom not so impress , u can just use chinese flagship for photo , then get iphone 17 is more than enough. Somehow i feel that really a great combo without break your bank biggrin.gif unless u dont mind paying for the 17pm price.


QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 10 2025, 11:02 AM)
What's the difference between ip17pm and ip16pm? i see on spec different chipset, larger battery capacity?
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The main reason to go for 17pm is the telezoom camera , because it upgrade from 12mp to 48mp , and the selfie camera have the new sensor , if u really care more about photo/video , then directly go for 17pm , if u dont too care about it , then can go with 16pm , but must get at the best price only worth it for now.


QUOTE(darkwaka @ Sep 10 2025, 11:08 AM)
Currently using ip12 and thinking which to get 17pro / pro max 258gb

The different is only rm500
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If u don games , the 17pro should can ngam ngam last u a day , or u just need extra 1 charge in the office / car , some people just dont like the size of Pro Max because it's too bulky.

But if u ask me , 17 Pro for Rm5499 is not that worth , because by adding more Rm500 u get big screen , day & night battery life , the pro max battery life just another level compared to pro version. Either go iphone 17 , or directly go for Pro Max.

Reason to go PRO version for sure u will be more heavy user that might need take alot of video/photo for your work right , so battery life should be your main concert , only Pro Max can fit your need.
If u are not so heavy user , the 17 now come with dual 48mp sensor camera , 120hz ProMotion , is more than enough for daily task. Save the money to get more accessory like airpods pro 3 or apple watch better.

I will only go for 17PRO if can get discounted price below Rm5k biggrin.gif because it just not worth RM5499 doh.gif

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 11:08 AM)
14 pro max battery life cmi, 73% capacity left, got it on day 1. and it costs rm449 to replace the battery. insane.  tongue.gif
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Heard that switch and machine offer RM299 battery replacement for 12 13 14 iphone.
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Cimo @ Sep 10 2025, 11:39 AM)
oh no.. i have 15 and 11. not included in the discount?
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I heard that 11 was on the list too , but it's limited time , u do need follow Switch facebook for the offer , 15 might be next year smile.gif


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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Sep 10 2025, 11:51 AM)
I will use my Ip for atleast 4-5 years as my main phone and buy another android phone just for gaming & as secondary phone

Last few iphone im using all non pro version so thinking wanting to try the pro version, i will be using the phone for 4-5 years (if phone no problem) 

All my gaming is on android phone so Ip 256gb storage is enough for me to use
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No worry , Any iphone can easily use up to 3-5 year , the only thing that cause u problem mostly was the battery health after 3rd year. If money isn't big problem for you , then just go for ip17 PRO , since u already have secondary phone for gaming. If u only have ONE phone then not really recommend especially if u gamer too laugh.gif

I recently saw a user using iphone 16 PRO with iOS26, playing Honor Of King (王者荣耀) , then he try open 120hz with full resolution (normally he just using 60hz) , guess what , 15% battery drop per games , that crazy sweat.gif , my Mediatek 9400+ only drop 3-5% with 120hz full resolution per games , iphone 16 pro max 5-6% per games, So u agak2 can see the different right the battery consumption between pro vs pro max vs android latest flagship.
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QUOTE(sam_yoongie @ Sep 10 2025, 11:51 AM)
Anyone planning to change from 13 Pro to 17 Pro / 17? As a concert go-ers, wondering how good is the telezoom on 17 pro vs s25 ultra 🤔
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No body know how good is the 17 pro telezoom , need to wait youtuber to review on it for the accurate answer biggrin.gif

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post Sep 10 2025, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 10 2025, 12:16 PM)
No matter how good the zoom would be, the phone would never be able to record clear recordings during concerts where you sit so far away from the state and with dimmed lightning. Food for thought.
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Then u really have to look into vivo x100 ultra , vivo x200pro , vivo x200 ultra and the latest Huawei pura 80 ultra , those are concert king biggrin.gif NO joke bro their telezoom with 200mp is on another level. Samsung? Can totally ignore it.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 10 2025, 12:31 PM)
Wow...that is good price. Once you replace the battery on an old iphone, the desire to buy the latest Iphone goes downwards.  tongue.gif
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Yeah , once your battery health drop below 80% , the phone performance will drop , so by replace new battery, u can get back full performance for your old phone.

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