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 Govt to study ‘retirement at 65’ proposal, otw to 200 years

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post May 23 2025, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ May 23 2025, 01:40 PM)
For those still under pension, retirement early is a plus. That's why currently many civil servants object to longer retirement age.
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Even those with pensions, do you really think they cam afford to retire early. Only those already high salary will want to retire and they won't get the same $ as their current salary
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post May 23 2025, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 11:26 AM)
Increase retirement age means that company cannot retire you before reaching retiring age unless you are willing to retire, right?

On positive side, company cannot get rid of you to hire new younger people for less pay.

The company have to bear consequences if aging worker become slow and less efficient.  laugh.gif
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what if I told you that young and old people are paid the same in my company? flat rate. u tak suka u keluar. do u think people will stay in this company?
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post May 23 2025, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 12:53 PM)
Not really. Even now with retiring age of 60, you can withdraw your EPF at 55 also. The one above 55 is separated into another account which can't be withdrawn as yet. I think. So, if 65, the 55 I think will still be there.
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Dude, u never know what will happen in the future. EPF also can set new policy and follow the the examples of other countries out there.

I'm not suprised by the time you are officially retired, u can't simply withdraw all the money from your epf account. Can only withdraw monthly and there's limit for monthly.

This is why many people out there still refuse to pump a lot of money inside EPF every month.

The one that do that is near retirement and they don't have to worry. It's the Gen Y and above gen need to worry all the shenanigans that gov of the day will do in the future.

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post May 23 2025, 01:36 PM

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For younger gen people, the competition for jobs is not so much from old people.

It will be from automation, robotics, AI, etc.

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Ni kerja sampai 99tahun. Sebab peminpin kaya sampai sekarang pun belum mati.
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post May 23 2025, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(abm @ May 23 2025, 11:29 AM)
What is the reason they want to do that? Because of man power shortage? Or because the people don’t have enough saving to retire? Or for some other reason?
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I doubt it is manpower shortage . My guess is the people do not havecenough savings to retire or if theyvretire need to pay pencen.
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Tunggu 5 tahun lagi manusia diganti robot.
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post May 23 2025, 01:45 PM

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many epf money already taken out during covid. retire my foot.😂
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QUOTE(Srbn @ May 23 2025, 11:34 AM)
No money to pay pension and welfare for old people.
Better work till death
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MP & Adun straight away no more pencen!!
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ May 23 2025, 01:36 PM)
For younger gen people, the competition for jobs is not so much from old people.

It will be free from automation, robotics, AI, etc.
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Good point.
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post May 23 2025, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 23 2025, 01:42 PM)
I doubt it is manpower shortage . My guess is the people do not havecenough savings to retire or if theyvretire need to pay pencen.
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Yah. The savings eaten up by inflation.
Heard from news the reason given is 60yo still healthy enough to work. That is bull shit.

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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 23 2025, 11:44 AM)
The issue is not with mid and low-level workers; they can still perform well at that age.

The main problem lies with top-level employees. Many of them misuse their positions and micromanage, similar to the behaviors observed in baby boomers. Extending their tenure by five years would only create inconveniences for everyone involved.

Bosses should resign at 60 years old. They already well fed with all the benefits and higher salaries.
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send those 60years old bossed to clean the glass
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post May 23 2025, 02:10 PM

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Do like SG je, cannot take out all, instead you get salary each month
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post May 23 2025, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 23 2025, 12:59 PM)
for now what u saw is like this but u never know what their ultimate plan is

of all the things we're competing with SG, this is the one we want to compete and very determine to "win" laugh.gif
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If we want to win we should go straight to 70. Why need to just keep up to SG laugh.gif
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Coz Population declining...

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 02:11 PM)
If we want to win we should go straight to 70. Why need to just keep up to SG  laugh.gif
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because increment of 10 years too dramatic...so have to slowly do it
if directly 10 years increase, guarantee next friday sogo again laugh.gif

we're on that "if they can do it, so can we" mentality laugh.gif

and thn comes all the fail policy that always lose to SG

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post May 23 2025, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(xpole @ May 23 2025, 01:36 PM)
Dude, u never know what will happen in the future. EPF also can set new policy and follow the the examples of other countries out there.

I'm not suprised by the time you are officially retired, u can't simply withdraw all the money from your epf account. Can only withdraw monthly and there's limit for monthly.

This is why many people out there still refuse to pump a lot of money inside EPF every month.

The one that do that is near retirement and they don't have to worry. It's the Gen Y and above gen need to worry all the shenanigans that gov of the day will do in the future.
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The problem is now majority that withdraw all the money from epf upon retirement finish them off in no time. smile.gif

That is what MP or political people said but if you talk to poor people they have their own reason. Once they get the money, they will clear the remaining house loan. Money also used to repair house that was overdue. Some will go to fix parent house and after that not much left.

By the time I retire I have no loan to clear. Keep the money in EPF to generate enough monthly income which is better than bank
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 03:19 PM)
The problem is now majority that withdraw all the money from epf upon retirement finish them off in no time.  smile.gif

That is what MP or political people said but if you talk to poor people they have their own reason. Once they get the money, they will clear the remaining house loan. Money also used to repair house that was overdue. Some will go to fix parent house and after that not much left.

By the time I retire I have no loan to clear. Keep the money in EPF to generate enough monthly income which is better than bank
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Exactly. Too many cases of people use up all their money after getting EPF and more importantly too many people don't even have the minimum 300k in EPF after retirement

I think we will slowly follow Singapore way in the next few years. Going to be unpopular but it's actually a necessary move

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post May 23 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ May 23 2025, 11:28 AM)
the real reason, no money to pay out pension and epf.

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usa no retirement until die

europe 70+

we still much better just more poor
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post May 23 2025, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 12:53 PM)
Not really. Even now with retiring age of 60, you can withdraw your EPF at 55 also. The one above 55 is separated into another account which can't be withdrawn as yet. I think. So, if 65, the 55 I think will still be there.
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That account is akaun emas. And yes, you can withdraw from this account even though it is reported separately from the normal account.

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