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 Govt to study ‘retirement at 65’ proposal, otw to 200 years

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post May 23 2025, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ May 23 2025, 12:09 PM)
korea low birthrate.

S. Korea's leading elderly organization proposes raising senior age threshold to '75'

Lee Joong-keun, the 19th Chairman of the Korean Senior Citizens Association, advocates raising the eligibility age for social benefits from 65 to 75

The proposal goes beyond adjusting eligibility for senior benefits, such as pensions and transportation subsidies, by also suggesting a revision of the retirement age for those willing to remain in the workforce.
https://www.chosun.com/english/national-en/...HMKTJ5OANRVDCY/
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wah ini crazy, 75 , just ngam ngam last year for epf contribution stop support by employer if happen here
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post May 23 2025, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(chuan88 @ May 23 2025, 01:08 PM)
Honestly i will retire when time has come, IF the youngsters capable to take over.
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Everyone also say want to retire but in reality most can't afford to retire early lah
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post May 23 2025, 12:16 PM

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companies will make it difficult for old ppl and indirectly force them to leave...
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post May 23 2025, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 11:26 AM)
Increase retirement age means that company cannot retire you before reaching retiring age unless you are willing to retire, right?

On positive side, company cannot get rid of you to hire new younger people for less pay.

The company have to bear consequences if aging worker become slow and less efficient.  laugh.gif
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Companies can do restructuring and remove roles deemed no longer required to get rid of headcounts.
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every 60+ wan to hold and create legacy --- apart of continue receiving cash paidout, benefits and the most is to put the capable people (younger gen) out of the league... sad but true...
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QUOTE(abm @ May 23 2025, 11:29 AM)
What is the reason they want to do that? Because of man power shortage? Or because the people don’t have enough saving to retire? Or for some other reason?
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So that EPF will have more money and so that gomen no need to pay pension so early.

The only impact to private employees is when they can withdraw EPF. Don't worry about working until 60, most private employees will self resign before that.
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post May 23 2025, 12:31 PM

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It means another 5 years of free health insurance for the oldfags. Cukur.
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post May 23 2025, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ May 23 2025, 12:19 PM)
Companies can do restructuring and remove roles deemed no longer required to get rid of headcounts.
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Not so simple lah. Companies need to bear the extra cost for firing people during restructuring. It is not free because that's what Labour laws demand.

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post May 23 2025, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ May 23 2025, 12:16 PM)
companies will make it difficult for old ppl and indirectly force them to leave...
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Old people can retaliate by simply not performing, and just wait out the 5 years. Unlike young people who need to prove themselves in order to get career advancement, old people are just waiting to collect paycheck before the inevitable retirement, there is no need to prove themselves. In the long run, companies will suffer because they only have the options to continue to pay salary for low performing staff, or retrench and pay for the retrenchment fee to get rid of them earlier.

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 23 2025, 12:13 PM)
Everyone also say want to retire but in reality most can't afford to retire early lah
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For those still under pension, retirement early is a plus. That's why currently many civil servants object to longer retirement age.

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post May 23 2025, 12:42 PM

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work until die
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 23 2025, 12:07 PM)
How u know PMX tumbang la….
U r lucky they did not form a committee to investigate and another committee to reveal the findings and another committee to make proposal and another committee to present proposal and another committee to debate and another committee to see how to implement and so on and on and on….
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I guess government need to maintain the GDP growth or increase the productivity.

Basically need the T15 to work longer to pay more taxes so that government can continually fuel the B40 and increase the government servants’ salaries

Not to forget the debt is also ballooning. Simply cannot afford the recession
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post May 23 2025, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 23 2025, 12:08 PM)
i gomen kuli also thinks retire at 65 is a crazy idea.

heck, i think 50 years old also, some will have alzheimer and parkinson already.

60 is the max for me.
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Yup.
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QUOTE(abm @ May 23 2025, 12:29 PM)
What is the reason they want to do that? Because of man power shortage? Or because the people don’t have enough saving to retire? Or for some other reason?
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Lazy dumb gen z
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post May 23 2025, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 23 2025, 12:02 PM)
this has nothing to do with working

this has everything to do with you touching your EPF
raiding retirement age = raising the age till you can touch your EPF
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Not really. Even now with retiring age of 60, you can withdraw your EPF at 55 also. The one above 55 is separated into another account which can't be withdrawn as yet. I think. So, if 65, the 55 I think will still be there.
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 12:53 PM)
Not really. Even now with retiring age of 60, you can withdraw your EPF at 55 also. The one above 55 is separated into another account which can't be withdrawn as yet. I think. So, if 65, the 55 I think will still be there.
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For now yes.

Thing is they do it step by step.
First raise the retirement age.
Then raise the withdrawal age. Not that this never happen before if i remember correctly.
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 23 2025, 12:53 PM)
Not really. Even now with retiring age of 60, you can withdraw your EPF at 55 also. The one above 55 is separated into another account which can't be withdrawn as yet. I think. So, if 65, the 55 I think will still be there.
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for now what u saw is like this but u never know what their ultimate plan is

of all the things we're competing with SG, this is the one we want to compete and very determine to "win" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(abm @ May 23 2025, 11:29 AM)
What is the reason they want to do that? Because of man power shortage? Or because the people don’t have enough saving to retire? Or for some other reason?
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Not enuff money in epf to pay.

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post May 23 2025, 01:04 PM

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Gov don't have pension money?

But the older the employee the higher their pay and the lower their efficiency.
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post May 23 2025, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ May 23 2025, 12:16 PM)
companies will make it difficult for old ppl and indirectly force them to leave...
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Ageism is very real in Malaysia and there is no protection for it as compared to western countries.

My china MNC now, the moment you hit 35/40 they sudah ask you to retire so fresh budak can come in replace you.

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