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post Apr 23 2025, 05:26 PM

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For anyone looking 3rd party Unifi ONU (Modem Bridge) without ISP management/tr069
Can look here: Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN

I providing, programming and managing TM/Unifi compatible firmware that match with various OLT Vendor

Modem (ONU Box) without VLAN also have, internet untagged at 2.5G LAN and you can use any Router without VLAN support rclxms.gif

SilentVampire perhaps add this info at main page? have many user using it currently since 2022, I also have send sample ONU to TM staff, user can replace ONU now

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kwss tng55 PRSXFENG
I stumble upon SDK source code, to verify what just saw

PON Stick login sessions (cookie?) can be accepted into D-Link DPN-FX3060V B1 V2.0.6


I try again by turn off D-Link just to refresh, somehow still works (as PON Stick use same GUI)

if like this, don't bother to change default password xD

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QUOTE(kwss @ Apr 28 2025, 01:17 PM)
Nice work! 🎉🎉
Maybe can go find if they have a bug bounty program and report it.

That's how cheap IoT device works in general. Keep pumping out new model and sell them while using the reference design is the same.

Have you identified where is the vulnerability? Is it in the webserver? Or within the web-app? Or somewhere else?

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I suspect they have a default key for the token and manufacturer is expected to change it but didn't.
Maybe you look for it and change it for your PON stick.
Most developers are not aware of such things. The most recent one being ASP.NET:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bl...t-machine-keys/
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I don't think D-Link and Skyworth are entertain such vulnerability as ISP buy cheap cheap.

I think just let it be vulnerable, typical ISP Router are like that tho
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Apr 29 2025, 09:50 AM)
It is indeed a serious vulnerability. However, as you mention, ISP tend to cheap out with their equipments, and never bother to issue patch to their equipments. I firmly believe that ONR being supplied to end-users to further cut cost with supplying standalone units to end-users. Hence combo unit proven cheapest for them to save cost further. Not to mention poorly developed firmware.

I toyed with the Black D-Link DPN-3060, Skyworth (white), not impressed with the firmware. Not yet toy with Fiberhome and ZTE ONR.
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I agreed..

Also, it appear TM use "CTC " PON Standard, as their OLT never updated to provision Type 50 (2.5GbE), even ONU has 2.5GbE, it still report as 1GbE cause QoS, Traffic shaping in disarray
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so, I think TM stay with GPON for little longer, and use those CTC Standard ONU just to hack 2Gbps compatibility with Type 47

so, Firmware become mess cry.gif very mess.... as I have their SDK, has no code of conduct, some use Tab, some use Space, some { after or new line...

thing is, if send to AI to find vulnerability, it guess it will a lot, this is how hacker make money with ONR nowdays
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Apr 29 2025, 03:14 PM)
An absolute time bomb if end user compromised, not to mention businesses that using stock ONR as their gateway to the internet.
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that's is why I despise ONR, much better and stable Dumb Bridge ONU + Router.
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So, not only me facing this issue
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Since TM use VRRP + VXLAN to handle Load Balance PPPoE-AC, it added overhead cause PPPoE MTU fail to nego at 1492, hell even RFC4638 make PPPoE 1500 MTU didn't work...

TIME also use VRRP + VXLAN, facing same issue:
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So, all Huawei BRAS will have this issue!!! Source: Mikrotik Forum
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If you encounter the following problems:
a. When PPPoE dial-up, the MTU will auto adjust from 1492 to 1480 after connected 3 seconds.
b.If you enable IPv6 you will get many warnings in the log similar to:
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:101
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:102
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:103
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:104
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:105
invalid mtu 1492 on pppoe-out1 from fe80::200:5eff:fe00:106

Then congratulations, this is because your ISP uses Huawei's Broadband Remote Access Server and you are a victim of Huawei equipment.
Affected peer equipment models: ME60, NE40, NE9000, VNE9000, etc.

Here is an explanation of the this issue:
a.Huawei has launched the vBRAS structure, which splits the traditional BRAS into the User Plane and the Control Plane.
b.The Control Plane name is VNE9000, which is an X86 virtual machine deployed on the ISP's cloud.
c.The User Plane consists of an X86 virtual machine or or an ARM physical machine or a traditional BRAS (such as ME60, NE40, etc.), there are deployed at sites near subscribers.
d.The User Plane is incorporated into the control plane and managed using OpenFlow.
e.The User Plane and Control Plane are connected using VXLAN, they may be hundreds of kilometers apart, with a delay of about 2 to 8 ms
f.Subscriber's PPPoE dial-up request will first reach the User Plane. If it is a packet of 0x8863 or 0x8864, the subscriber information will be injected and forwarded to the Control Plane through VXLAN. Then, after the Control Plane completes PPP authentication, it will send the flow table to the User Plane through OpenFlow. If it's a normal PPPoE Session packet, it will be fast forward on the user plane.
g.RouterOS and most network equipment implement PPPoE in compliance with RFC4638.
h.Therefore, when the RouterOS's PPPoE Client dial-up, if you set the MTU>1488, it will send an Echo Request packet with a length equal to the MTU to the other end during the LCP negotiation phase.
i.Yes, you have found the issue now. The size of your Echo Request packet has exceeded the VXLAN MTU between the User Plane and the Control Plane. At this time, the Control Plane will never receive your Echo Request or reply to your Echo Request. Therefore, when your PPPoE Client fails to get an Echo Reply after three attempts, it adjusts its MTU to 1480 in disappointment.
Looking back before Unifi using VRRP, I can use PPPoE MTU 1500 bytes with PON Stick (PON MTU 2000)

My friend live in JB that still on dedicated BRAS, no stupid VRRP, enjoying PPPoE at 1500bytes MTU:
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I ask my friend to run MTU Route, it's really pure 1500 bytes MTU:
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tldr, anyone on VRRP, will adjusts its MTU to 1480 in disappointment.

VRRP and VXLAN add another overhead, ISP didn't consider this...

I even make a report to MCMC about this, Huawei Vendor says to MCMC this is normal ranting.gif

So, I see VRRP and VXLAN is bad technology, didn't consider PPPoE RFC4638



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QUOTE(hsbb @ May 13 2025, 09:42 AM)
Are u using unifi biz bro?

I little bit curious why ur JB friend dialed to TM Ipoh juniper imse01.tsk_tp.re0 where the pppoe client supposed to dial imse01.jhb_*.re0 .. I never doubt if Cameron Highland users dialed to imse01.tsk_tp.re0 🤔
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I am just normal Unifi

I shipped my NIJIKA Stick V2 (beta) to his address at JB,
I didn't check his PPPoE AC location, assume shipping address as is.

Thing is, he can use 1500 bytes MTU, No VRRP or VXLAN crap.

Many Websites WAF, Server NGFW, DPI mark packet lower than 1492 bytes consider suspicious:
1. Reduced MTU = VPN = Potential Botnet
2. Tunneled/obfuscated traffic
3. Rate Limiting

That's is why some server take little longer to connect because NGFW has triggered MTU < 1492 likely a VPN User or VPNfilter exploit (where customer CPE has been hacked, use as VPN Gateway)

TL;DR

1. Yes, a broken MTU path—caused by PPPoE over VXLAN without jumbo frame support—can make your client appear suspicious, and that can lead to degraded performance, slow TLS handshakes, or outright blocks.

2. TM and TIME as now didn't expect VRRP and VXLAN overhead cause PPPoE has broken MTU

3. I have tried contacting TM and MCMC, Vendor say broken MTU cause by PPPoE over VXLAN is normal

4. Ask to bring back imse01.mc_rsh-re0 like in year 2020, TM can't do that because all have upgraded to crappy VRRP VXLAN

5. Ask to increase L2MTU to 2000 bytes to match GPON MTU for their VRRP and VXLAN to support RFC4638 compliance, TM can't do that
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QUOTE(hsbb @ May 13 2025, 01:06 PM)
Seem physical imse01.mc_rsh-re0 now upgraded to virual ibse03.rsh ..  u dialed to malacca before. As for ur friend, actuality somewhere at perak.

tsk_tg = tasek_taiping
mc_rsh = malacca_rasah
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i asked my friend that time he balik kampung, lol, no wonder I had to ship there,

well good for him not under VRRP crap, I ask to enjoy 1500 bytes MTU while he can.

so, do you have connections to TM higher staff?
possible they fix this MTU issue? and reinstated RFC4638

why I ask RFC4638?
Because I have setup PON Stick with Unifi Biz with /30 and /29 customer, giving Server real Unifi IP Address, need configure OS Ethernet MTU tu 1488.

if PPPoE with 1500 bytes MTU, no more fragmented packet and performance dropped.

default L2MTU 1600 MTU no longer enough, as VRRP and VXLAN take a lot of overhead
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QUOTE(kwss @ May 13 2025, 02:16 PM)
There is another problem after they allow MTU 1500.
In IPv6, the BNG will send ICMPv6 Packet Too Big even if the MRU is 1500 and big enough to receive it.
Using IPv4 doesn't face this problem. My guess is they put in this broken workaround because some of their supplied router eats ICMPv6 packet in the name of firewalling.

There are other minor issue with their BNG the last time I test them, such as the weird reuse of magic number.
I also don't quite understand why their L2MTU cannot be increased, considering TM claim's all their MPLS circuit runs 9k MTU worldwide in their marketing material.
Maybe their marketing team lied.
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I not sure about my friend on MTU 1500, his IPv6 seem working and no issue either way

If they run L2MTU 9000 bytes, then VRRP and VXLAN overhead not an issue.

I think their their marketing team lied. As this proof MTU stuck at 1488 weird number cause server NGFW rise a suspicion

QUOTE(hsbb @ May 13 2025, 02:20 PM)
The upstream speed not as suscribed although config correctly by GEM/OMCC. For this case need to manually config in the OLT itself. Below is the flow how GPON upstream normally work.

ONU Activation:
When an ONU is activated on a GPON network, the OLT sends PLOAM messages to the ONU to establish communication and discover the available T-CONTs. 

Bandwidth Allocation:
Using PLOAM messages, the OLT assigns specific Alloc-IDs to different T-CONTs within the ONU, thereby defining which T-CONT will be used to carry specific user traffic. 

Traffic Management:
Once the Alloc-IDs are assigned, the ONU sends upstream traffic based on the allocated bandwidth for each T-CONT, ensuring efficient utilization of the shared fiber. 
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May I know what T-CONT Entity Id that TM use across vendor? have one TM own standard or varies depend on OLT?
Like in Salak Tinggi, TM downgrading Alcatel OLT to Fiberhome OLT to avoid Nokia Cloud OMCI fee, and cause upload speed issue with FHTT OLT

As I don't have access to OLT, I just guessing across chipset, Huawei HiSilicon, Nokia MediaTek and D-Link/Nijika Realtek,
both use ME 278 0xff00 - 0xff0f (16 T-CONT), some are less, but T-CONT are there waiting to
so, ME 277, 8 queue per T-CONT: 0x8000 - 0x807f

but for D-Link based on Realtek, got extra T-CONT not in use

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QUOTE(neekun @ May 15 2025, 04:35 PM)
Conclusion is suspecting Asus router firmware bug?? Need to check with Asus.
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Sounds like Flow Control issue, happened to me with asus 2G customer
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QUOTE(kwss @ May 19 2025, 12:43 AM)


In conclusion, consider seriously before throwing money into Mikrotik. People already doing networking professionally or have passion will enjoy it.

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I enjoyed using Mikrotik, all make sense! my RB5009 since 2021 been stable till this day!

2Gbps plan not supposed to exist on GPON, because it give ~96% of total bandwidth and introduction a lot of problem

2Gbps should be on XGSPON (10G) or higher

Seeing neekun solving issue, I suspected highly on Flow Control and QoS TM recently made

in Mikrotik, this can be solve by setting WAN Egress to 1100Mbps (follow OLT T-CONT)

if you have managed switch, put in between ONR > Managed L2 > Asus. Then set WAN Egress Bandwidth, this will fix it

I been deploy hundreds NIJIKA Stick and Box, I will try make sure client use Mikrotik,

On my experience with many users, 2Gbps works out of the box follow this (using my stick and Nijika Firmware):
1. Asus ROG Rapture AXE11000
2. Asus ROG Rapture GT-BE98
3. TP-LINK Archer GE800
4. TP-LINK Archer BE800
5. TP-LINK Archer BE550
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QUOTE(neekun @ May 19 2025, 12:56 PM)
With a managed switch, one has to configure the switch ? Hmmm me not technical to do it. Assuming the issue is fixed with a L2 managed switch, the issue was original caused by tm or my Asus router?

You mentioned about TM made changes in Flow Control And QoS on their end, do you have any specific case logged with TM where I can use that as reference for checking with them ? It’s so hard communicating with their back end technical where just don’t answer any of my question. They only deal with their own technician.

For archer ge800, it’s one of the model I planning to replace my Asus if all else fail, with this model and existing dlink as modem in bridge mode, you you think the upload issue will be resolved?
Really  appreciate your help on this. Thank you so much.
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You need find 2.5G Managed Switch that has WebGUI, just set WAN Egress to 1100Mbps

not neat setup ONR > Managed Switch > Router
but this will fix the issue, as Managed Switch will send Pause Frame to Router WAN, which tell PPPd to NAT to LAN's do not send a lot of upload

This because GPON Upload just 1.244Gbps where 2.5GbE will flood the GPON
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QUOTE(hsbb @ May 19 2025, 11:52 PM)
Anime4000 the use of IoT item in router & IoT cloud. The same concept used by ip cctv which can remotely view using smartphone.

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To be honest, both are Vulnerable, since firmware being publish here, guy/team from my discord PON Hacking look and found attack vector, even can pivot from PPPoE to VLAN209 and VLAN400
They planning make 2G user as VPN Server for them doh.gif

For serious business, they don't use AIO, for 2G plan they use my NIJIKA, for 1G, stay with old ONU which is much safer and dumb


SDK Source Code, Taurus Board that D-Link DPN-FX3060V (A1/B1)
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What I know D-Link and Skyworth runs on ancient server

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Another Taurus Board, Zyxel AOT5221ZY that runs on OpenWRT
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CODE

NOTICE:  Booting Trusted Firmware - Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
NOTICE:  BL1: v1.5(release):TAURUS_TAPEOUT_2_0
NOTICE:  BL1: Built : 17:13:20, Oct 27 2021
NOTICE:  BL1: CPU Speed 1000 MHz
NOTICE:  GLOBAL_STRAP 0xc0a
NOTICE:  boot from serial NAND flash
NOTICE:  SPI_NAND: W25N04KV 0xefaa23
NOTICE:  SPI_NAND: Page 0x800, Block 0x20000, Chip 512MB
NOTICE:  Platform initialized
NOTICE:  BL1: Booting BL2
NOTICE:  BL2: RTL9607DQ
NOTICE:  boot from serial NAND flash
NOTICE:  BL2: SPI_NAND: W25N04KVZEIE 0xefaa23
NOTICE:  BL2: SPI_NAND: Page 0x800, Block 0x20000, Chip 512MB

##### DRAM driver version(TAURUS): V0.7.2 #####
...


Since both D-Link and Zyxel use same SoC, making D-Link use OpenWRT is my next project, by dissecting Zyxel indeed

As I have the SDK, I can convert TM Blob to TIME compatible ONU, or even Maxis own Infra

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 20 2025, 01:09 AM)
So let me guess, TM going to ignore this issue? Is there any official or insider confirmation that they were aware of this vulnerability and working on patches? Does this only affects the Ultra Combo ONRs or the regular ONR as well (+ Fiberhome and ZTE)? Did they replicate the vulnerability at their R&D side?
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Yes, pretty much any ISP provided equipment, security patches not their priority as these equipment are cheap enough.

I have told them, but my friend said just leave it, want cheap internet, no security.

security cost money 😔

like D-Link 2.0.3 to 2.0.6, just improving on GPON performance, not security, vulnerability still exists according to them.

They didn't tell me how to do it, and I never wanted to know, knowing it I can be prosecuted 😭

old screenshot hack on action
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This good learn, ISP CPE cloud is bad:
researcher accidentally finds O-day affecting his entire internet service provider



since I own both D-Link A1 and B1
I plan to make D-Link ONR using OpenWRT by using Zyxel as base since both use same Processor

also using ONR is never been good, ISP still have total control of that device,
Let say, DNS filtering happening again, they don't like use custom DNS, ISP can override even without TR069, just from OMCI can do that,

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 20 2025, 03:24 AM)
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I did went through the blog of the owner. He perfectly replicate and explain the vulnerability of using unpatched ISP equipment's. Hence Maxis is the next best option if new users wants to subscribe internet access due to maxis is still giving the standalone units. I guess they are using Skyworth if not my mistaken.
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Maxis on TM fiber still ONU + Router layout
the ONU is 2.5G single port

now, TM need push OMCI on Both LAN 1 and 2 now 🤣🤣🤣
because that ONU only has one 2.5G

for this reason, TM cannot support Unifi + Maxis on same ONU
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 20 2025, 10:36 AM)
I get your logic there. Do you think they will use the older configurations back on, since ONR is not a permanent solution, especially for businesses. I mean, we are talking about an unpatched vulnerabilities. There are a few engines that can provide details about the ports, and some still using default login credentials. I've seen my clients using ONR for their businesses, only to be secured by a dedicated firewall.
Assuming maxis user who sub to Maxis's 2Gbps plan, and after 2 years, the user wants to shift to Unifi. This means, without the OMCI push for LAN 1 and 2 for the ONU, the ONU will be forcefully replaced by ONR, right?
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replay still a thing, even in bridge mode
better remove ONR for safe measures

Let say your 2G Maxis is up, you still can use old ONU that TM give for maxis customer for Unifi, just pay the technician to configure the maxis ONU and they will contact NOC and update proper OMCI because that ONU do not have telephone port, if you need Telephone, need pass VLAN400 to 0x101 (LAN1) instead of 0xe01 (VEIP)
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 20 2025, 11:09 AM)
Gotcha. Guess maxis will be my next option. I am not convinced of how TM and their engineers don't follow up the reported CVEs and issue a proper patch remotely or downloadable firmware from user account dashboard.
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Nah, most ISP not doing that,
best way use dumb ONU Bridge + Router with constant security update
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syahpian
Indeed, Mikrotik has the longest firmware update, RB2011 release date 2012, until today already 13 years

if other brand like Aruba, Fortinet, etc... ask you to pay for extended support

Also, adapting weird protocol like supporting HiSGMII/2500Base-X/2.5Gbps on SFP+ slot's also another benefit, Ubiquiti, Fortinet don't support this kind only do 1/10G that's it
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I testing OpenWRT D-Link B1, somehow LAN speed crap but over wifi is nice, I wonder...

OpenWRT D-Link 2.5G > Mikrotik > 10G Managed Switch > ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) [Realtek 2.5G]
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But I test download via IDM, can reach 2Gbps:
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Test my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra WiFi6E via TP-Link Deco BE85
OpenWRT D-Link 2.5G > Mikrotik > 10G Managed Switch > 10G MultiMode Fiber SFP > TP-LINK Deco BE85 > my phone
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Kernel and Driver remain same, but I try Skyworth 2.5G, same results, also NijikaWRT and NijikaRTL give LAN slow but WiFi fast...

something fishy with ALCL OLT... or my Managed Switch

I not often check speedtest, this time seem LAN become shit...

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 22 2025, 01:30 PM)
how about GPON STICK Mikrotik LAN SpeedTest please without 10G Managed Switch
GPON STICK > Mikrotik > ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) [Realtek 2.5G]

let do test show me
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this haven't yet, I need put wifi and server offline first

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