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 Tnb win against landlord, Tnb win, Flawless victory, fatality

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post Feb 19 2025, 02:10 PM

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If this kind of case set precedent, DLLM who dare to rent things out wor. The individual meter registration should already separate the risk between tenant and owner.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:12 PM

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Another very stupid thing about TNB is why dont cut the electric early?

Whats the guarantee letting it flows like that , you will get the money back?

TNB is a fat cow. time to make it works.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:10 PM)
If this kind of case set precedent, DLLM who dare to rent things out wor. The individual meter registration should already separate the risk between tenant and owner.
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that why but the landlord kalah worrrrrrrr
SUSBlackscreamerz
post Feb 19 2025, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Feb 19 2025, 02:12 PM)
that why but the landlord kalah worrrrrrrr
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sure some corporate by laws hiding somewhere let them win.

Must fight to FC la this case.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
don't rent out, no problem.
just sell the house/shop
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Unethical LPT

Don't buy house, just rent then steal electricity
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:15 PM

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sell property
pay tnb
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GalaxyV
post Feb 19 2025, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:14 PM)
sure some corporate by laws hiding somewhere let them win.

Must fight to FC la this case.
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not sure...

haven't read the whole news to know the basis of kalah
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:06 PM)
Pakai nama sama. The meter is illegally registered via legal method.

Also, the app now offers to add your account via IC numbers.

I am not saying the owner is negligent. The court shouldnt judge the owner has to pay since they dont use the electricity. The meter registration itself is a fraud. The burden should fall on TNB to pay their own mistakes for fraudulant registeration.
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Meter registration isn't the issue right



Tenant is fake, scammer used stolen identity to rent and sign rental agreement
Scammer steal electric, owner doesn't realise and has no way of knowing unless he checks physically
TNB detected
TNB sue owner
Owner sue 'renter' but turns out it's stolen identity

TNB only cares who legally owns the meter, which is the owner
Up to owner to chase 'tenant' but if it's stolen identity then it gets complicated
scammer in the end goes scot free
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
Electricity Supply Act 1990 is lopsided against consumers
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Explain how this is disadvantage to customer???


You pinjam credit card to your girlfriend.
she swipe until FULL
you refuse to pay, because is "NOT YOUR EXPENSES"

like this?


1. Invest Property
2. Rent our prop also Rent out own TNB Account to Tenant.

3. Tenant run away with tons of outstanding bill

4. Landlord, not my problem.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:19 PM

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Stupid TNB does not have a stop loss procedure to auto stop and cut electricity supply upon excessive usage amount. But wants rakyat to bear huge loss. Simple procedure also cannot implement. Malaysia MNC company quality with CEO earning millions in a single year.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:19 PM

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tenant can register electricity under their own name, why landlord want to use own name for electric bill

still living in 80s?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM)
Curi electric. Got app also useless.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM)
wont work if tenant illegally taps into the cable
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM)
i dont think they could check much details if the account under different name. at best only monthly bill.
but most of the time landlord just dont bother if monthly bill is low anyway, they only shocked if the bill is high. evil crypto miner will just make sambungan haram, so bill will always low than it should.

anyway landlord must buy current clamp to actually check the current flow, if it is too high, but the meter run slow, then it is redflag.
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Feb 19 2025, 01:36 PM)
They bypass the meter, app will show nothing.

Done well, naked eye wont be able to tell, more so our untrained eye.
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You are right.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Feb 19 2025, 02:16 PM)
Meter registration isn't the issue right
Tenant is fake, scammer used stolen identity to rent and sign rental agreement
Scammer steal electric, owner doesn't realise and has no way of knowing unless he checks physically
TNB detected
TNB sue owner
Owner sue 'renter' but turns out it's stolen identity

TNB only cares who legally owns the meter, which is the owner
Up to owner to chase 'tenant' but if it's stolen identity then it gets complicated
scammer in the end goes scot free
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The meter is not an issue only because TNB is too lax.

Objectively speaking, the meter ownership is the issue. How can the owner held responsible since the tenant fraudulent use his name to open a meter. Buka CCTV at TNB shop also can see who came and register right.

TNB just trying to deny their own problems in this matter.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Feb 19 2025, 02:16 PM)
Meter registration isn't the issue right
Tenant is fake, scammer used stolen identity to rent and sign rental agreement
Scammer steal electric, owner doesn't realise and has no way of knowing unless he checks physically
TNB detected
TNB sue owner
Owner sue 'renter' but turns out it's stolen identity

TNB only cares who legally owns the meter, which is the owner
Up to owner to chase 'tenant' but if it's stolen identity then it gets complicated
scammer in the end goes scot free
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i thought the meter is under the tenant's registration?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(boystyle @ Feb 19 2025, 02:19 PM)
tenant can register electricity under their own name, why landlord want to use own name for electric bill

still living in 80s?
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will still look for landlord for unpaid bills when shit happens
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:22 PM

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Safest way to avoid all these: don't rent, buy house only for own stay, not for investment.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM)
wont work if tenant illegally taps into the cable
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If illegal tab means not inside bill
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:12 PM)
Another very stupid thing about TNB is why dont cut the electric early?

Whats the guarantee letting it flows like that , you will get the money back?

TNB is a fat cow. time to make it works.
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this i have to tell you
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW ELECTRICITY SUPPLY WORKS.

not sure your education level, but let me explain in LAY MEN TERMS.

1. Do you think TNB can Predict next seconds, next hour electricity usage????

NO.

TNB supply the grid at 125~150% of grid average demand. to "Anticipate unexpected surge usage"
They cannot just supply 100%. this will cause ALOT trouble

So, Yes. TNB always has "MEGA watt amount of electricity that goes wasted"
It let them flow, either for nothing or , can go court for a big charge.



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post Feb 19 2025, 02:22 PM

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Some of my client faces this issue to but not to the extend of millions but hundred of thousands.

My advice to them is not to go to court since the act is very clear tnb is going to win as long you are the account owner
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:20 PM)
The meter is not an issue only because TNB is too lax.

Objectively speaking, the meter ownership is the issue. How can the owner held responsible since the tenant fraudulent use his name to open a meter. Buka CCTV at TNB shop also can see who came and register right.

TNB just trying to deny their own problems in this matter.
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Hello, meter ownership has been under owner all this while
Owner didn't change meter ownership, he just rent out his property to 'tenant' without change of meter ownership

That's why people always say change meter ownership when rent out property, but its a very mafan process most owners don't want to deal with it so they just pass on the bill monthly to tenant for them to pay
But in this case, 'tenant' bypass the meter, so the meter just shows normal usage

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