Meter registration isn't the issue right



Tenant is fake, scammer used stolen identity to rent and sign rental agreement
Scammer steal electric, owner doesn't realise and has no way of knowing unless he checks physically
TNB detected
TNB sue owner
Owner sue 'renter' but turns out it's stolen identity

TNB only cares who legally owns the meter, which is the owner
Up to owner to chase 'tenant' but if it's stolen identity then it gets complicated
scammer in the end goes scot free

Hello, meter ownership has been under owner all this while
Owner didn't change meter ownership, he just rent out his property to 'tenant' without change of meter ownership

That's why people always say change meter ownership when rent out property, but its a very mafan process most owners don't want to deal with it so they just pass on the bill monthly to tenant for them to pay
But in this case, 'tenant' bypass the meter, so the meter just shows normal usage

I think it's much harder to use stolen identify to register meter, rather to rent

"and Loo, whose identity was stolen to rent a shop lot that amassed RM196,000 in electricity charges."



This post has been edited by daijoubu: Feb 19 2025, 02:28 PM

The loss is not tracked because it bypassed the meter...

TNB can detect, just there is a time delay
Once they calculated the stolen amount then they slap the owners with the bill

Stolen electric before the meter .
Meter doesn't see what is stolen, so whoever baca the meter (and the app which linked to the meter) can't see anything different.

But TNB can calculate and estimate based on area usage. It takes time to investigate, and once TNB completes investigation they slap with retroactive billing. They bill the owner for the stolen amount

No the bill shows normal usage

Say if before stolen, shop is using monthly 200kwj. Meaning the electric stuff connected to meter is using 200kwj.

Then after they tap the cable before the meter, connect to bitcoin machine, now the machine use additional 10000kwj that will not be 'seen' by the meter.
But the rest of the stuff that still connect to the meter continues to use 200kwj.

Your app will still keep showing 200kwj.

But TNB eventually will realise got 10000kwj missing, then they investigate. Once they pin point its being 'lost' through the cable going to your property, they calculate all the losses then slap you will the 10000kwj bill (multiply by dunno how many months)

If you read this article https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-rm8-5mil-bill/

The stolen identity is all used to rent the place, not to open TNB account.

If open TNB account with stolen identity then TNB will chase the stolen identity owner, but this is not the case I think

by right the only legal recourse I think is to change onwership of the meter to tenant
this should discourage scammers, cause its harder to scam TNB
but at same time, owner got risk if the bill isn't cleared by tenant, then next time hard to change to new tenant or back to owner

practically, its better to do periodic checks on the physical cable


this i not too sure, but I think they slap whatever they calculated as total loss, so the bill is one huge lum sum.

I don't think in those case the names of the meter ownership has been changed to the tenant
As in, owner is still the legal owner of the meter, whereas the owner has a rental agreement with the tenant

legally in those situation: tenant/scammer using fake identity <tenancy agreement> owner <meter agreement> tnb

Hence TNB sue owner
And owner has to deal with tenant themselves


If owner change the meter ownership to tenant, then different story, TNB has to change whoever that made agreement with TNB
But owner won't be able to get his meter name changed back to them if the past overdue isn't cleared