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 Tnb win against landlord, Tnb win, Flawless victory, fatality

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ray123
post Feb 19 2025, 01:44 PM

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Driving him to death. I wonder if it would take the despairing landlord to simbah petrol and burn himself to death in front of TNB offices for those bureaucratic management to wake up.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 02:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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App don't show from upstream if they bypass your local meter leh.
TnB also don't instantly know if got curi, how would homeowners fare any better.

Anyway generally miners how to profile?
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM)
i dont think they could check much details if the account under different name. at best only monthly bill.
but most of the time landlord just dont bother if monthly bill is low anyway, they only shocked if the bill is high. evil crypto miner will just make sambungan haram, so bill will always low than it should.

anyway landlord must buy current clamp to actually check the current flow, if it is too high, but the meter run slow, then it is redflag.
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got this also no use.. bypass those incoming electric cable ler


the only solution is, must put visit/spot check clause in the rental agreement
1. handover the keys
2. spot check after renovation
3. 1 month after moving in
4. then, periodic checking after that, like when collect rent time.


doing all this also might not foolproof but at least, those would be crypto miners tenant will skip choosing rent it.


The best solution is TNB must have centre meter for each row of shop, any meter reading different up to certain %, trigger spot check or at least trigger those shop owners TNB accounts a notice of awareness
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Feb 19 2025, 01:48 PM)
App don't show from upstream if they bypass your local meter leh.
TnB also don't instantly know if got curi, how would homeowners fare any better.

Anyway generally miners how to profile?
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from apps, can check the daily consumption for electric, how much is the rates per day usage.

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post Feb 19 2025, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 19 2025, 01:49 PM)
got this also no use.. bypass those incoming electric cable ler
the only solution is, must put visit/spot check clause in the rental agreement
1. handover the keys
2. spot check after renovation
3. 1 month after moving in
4. then, periodic checking after that, like when collect rent time.
doing all this also might not foolproof but at least, those would be crypto miners tenant will skip choosing rent it.
The best solution is TNB must have centre meter for each row of shop, any meter reading different up to certain %, trigger spot check or at least trigger those shop owners TNB accounts a notice of awareness
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its the wiring before meter that need to be monitor la. thats how tnb technician determine if meter lari or not.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:54 PM

 
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 19 2025, 01:51 PM)
from apps, can check the daily consumption for electric, how much is the rates per day usage.
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People already say "bypass the meter". Apps can only show reading from the meter.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:55 PM

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wait why is the court siding with TNB lol. need to read the facts of the case.

stolen identities also kena? that's freaking TNB's responsibilities leh to conduct proper due diligence.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:55 PM

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Landlords need to be extra careful for renting their properties liao
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(JoLee @ Feb 19 2025, 01:43 PM)
Funny thing with TNB is that if the amount exceeds the deposit collected by them shouldnt it be cut off immediately. Surely every business has credit terms and limit per customer. Sounds fishy.
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Curi electric mean they directly tap into wayar before the meter, if meter also cannot detect how u expect tnb to detect?

Landlord pandai wan buy property for investment but too lazy to do spot check is the one normally kena. Daisei next time don’t expect good tenant is easy to find.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:56 PM

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Something is weird about the law.. 99% they know who is the culprit but conveniently penalise the landlord instead of the culprit.

When we talk about responsibility, the landlord and also TNB both are responsible.

Landlord did not check the bill contantly to prevent massive amount from accumulation.

TNB also lack the monitoring required to trigger early warning signs of excessive usage. They know the average consumption for a house, shops and factory but they choose to ignore the red flag.

TNB being a huge conglomerate earning billions have a responsibility to provide regular monitoring on suspicious electrical theft. Just like how Banks are being forced to monitor suspicious transactions.

This post has been edited by Thrust: Feb 19 2025, 01:57 PM
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(poco loco @ Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM)
825kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
pay to tnb?biar betul...every day pay rm1 can la...tnb slow slow wait
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825k lol...can buy a bungalow cash
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:59 PM

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its your property, do your due diligence. always spot check tenant. simply collect rent, then bark like dog when get penalised.

it is not tnb or any other agency responsibility to bear that cost.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:00 PM

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kecian property owner, keepitup
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:01 PM

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this is not charity

landlord can bankrupt lor, TNB is a listed co
dont show mercy, charge to the max, compound the interest!
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM)
As long the building on that address is yours. You still the one yang kena responsible, no matter what name on the TNB meter. Yeah,kinda suck
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we should follow uk style la

no pay u get switched to prepaid
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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How to check if it won't appear in TNB app? For these kind of cases and there's a legit tenancy agreement, the responsibility shouldn't be on the landlord as how the landlord gonna know?

Call TNB man and come to check the premise and meter every month?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM)
Curi electric. Got app also useless.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM)
wont work if tenant illegally taps into the cable
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM)
i dont think they could check much details if the account under different name. at best only monthly bill.
but most of the time landlord just dont bother if monthly bill is low anyway, they only shocked if the bill is high. evil crypto miner will just make sambungan haram, so bill will always low than it should.

anyway landlord must buy current clamp to actually check the current flow, if it is too high, but the meter run slow, then it is redflag.
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Feb 19 2025, 01:36 PM)
They bypass the meter, app will show nothing.

Done well, naked eye wont be able to tell, more so our untrained eye.
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
they curi electric before the meter check, so they bypass it.

ur meter won't know. unless a huge amount of electric consumption in that area and that's why they come and check.
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Landlords like Jason face challenges as some tenants have fraudulently opened TNB accounts in their names, leading to massive debts from illegal Bitcoin mining activities.


Pakai nama sama. The meter is illegally registered via legal method.

Also, the app now offers to add your account via IC numbers.

I am not saying the owner is negligent. The court shouldnt judge the owner has to pay since they dont use the electricity. The meter registration itself is a fraud. The burden should fall on TNB to pay their own mistakes for fraudulant registeration.

This post has been edited by Blackscreamerz: Feb 19 2025, 02:09 PM
Chrix
post Feb 19 2025, 02:07 PM

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cb type "landlord" never check or look into tenants which sitting in your own legally owned address?

jenis suka take advantage as landlord then cry ma cry pa when sendiri lapse in judgement & tables flipped
Akaashi
post Feb 19 2025, 02:09 PM

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Wanna ask hor. For cases like this, cannot catch the tenants ? Dont have their name and ID ?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:10 PM

 
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Feb 19 2025, 02:09 PM)
Wanna ask hor. For cases like this, cannot catch the tenants ? Dont have their name and ID ?
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TNB: why catch tenant when landlord is right here?

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