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post Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM

 
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 13 2025, 11:11 AM)
itukan soalan tered ni. legal ke tak perbuatan employer tu

if not bring up labour law then bring up mak ko ijau ke dik?
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Legal or not? Go ask the ministry. Go. See what they say. I wait your reply.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM)
Legal or not? Go ask the ministry. Go. See what they say. I wait your reply.
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u don't read do u?

i already posted what u asked. no need wait my reply dik

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post Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 13 2025, 11:10 AM)
Ayam confused. Is forcing staff to take annual leave considered as paying or not paying them?
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considered paid but at the same time it's not because it's against employee's will
they didn't apply the leave on their own
you paid them but u deduct something in return

which is why by law it's illegal
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Jan 13 2025, 11:06 AM)
Actually paid or unpaid also cannot de...

but usually if it is paid leave, at least employees will just halalkan je. tolak ansur sikit.
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My company staff quite bertolak ansur one. It's not like every year forced to take annual leave due to the CNY / Raya long week. Only for exceptional cases like CNY this year - what's the point of staffs come on Friday do work after off 2 days (when there's literally no business or customers coming), then again off 2 days? Might as well take the Friday off, have a good week of break, then back on Monday refreshed and happy.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jan 13 2025, 10:02 AM)
Steven Sim Chee Keong should look into this.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM)
Legal or not? Go ask the ministry. Go. See what they say. I wait your reply.
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don't even need to ask ministry when it's written on the law already

a good HR can already tell everybody the answer
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:16 AM

 
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 13 2025, 11:14 AM)
u don't read do u?

i already posted what u asked. no need wait my reply dik
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I ask you go ask ministry, you post some website. Tak erti bahasa ke dik?
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:16 AM

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you guys might no believe ayam but ayam at real china company get free leave on cny 3rd day and half day at eve.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 13 2025, 11:10 AM)
Ayam confused. Is forcing staff to take annual leave considered as paying or not paying them?
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If you take annual leave (forced or voluntary), as long as you get paid for that leave day, this is acceptable. The issue comes when Company decides to be a cheapskate and don't.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 13 2025, 11:16 AM)
I ask you go ask ministry, you post some website. Tak erti bahasa ke dik?
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bcoz that website already ask ministry, and provided summary

adui......u farking stupid ke dik

until u really read, i don't wanna reply u. waste my time
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jan 13 2025, 11:15 AM)
My company staff quite bertolak ansur one. It's not like every year forced to take annual leave due to the CNY / Raya long week. Only for exceptional cases like CNY this year - what's the point of staffs come on Friday do work after off 2 days (when there's literally no business or customers coming), then again off 2 days? Might as well take the Friday off, have a good week of break, then back on Monday refreshed and happy.
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but very unfortunate is i think a lot of cina bosses is very...pragmatic.

ada kerja ada gaji, no kerja no gaji even thought salary is suppose to be on monthly basis.

and the workers especially cina will just telan. cause it is pragmatic to them too. no pay no work .

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 13 2025, 11:17 AM)
bcoz that website already ask ministry, and provided summary

adui......u farking stupid ke dik

until u really read, i don't wanna reply u. waste my time
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Ditto.

Until you ask the ministry yourself instead of trust whatever from the internet like a farking stupid, I won't reply anymore.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 13 2025, 11:19 AM)
Ditto.

Until you ask the ministry yourself instead of trust whatever from the internet like a farking stupid, I won't reply anymore.
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why must i ask ministry myself when someone already did and posted the result?

i am smart not stupid like u

u shud go eat shit yourself bcoz u cannot rely on other's experience that eating shit is no good rclxms.gif

u see, i defeated all your replies so far until u had to move the goalpost, clearly u r not my level

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post Jan 13 2025, 11:22 AM

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Why Puas no say work in non company is haram?since they also say wearing red just like celerating Christmas is haram
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 13 2025, 11:10 AM)
Ayam confused. Is forcing staff to take annual leave considered as paying or not paying them?
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annual leave should be voluntary

but i dont think its a rule

forced leave should be separate from annual leave
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Silfer @ Jan 13 2025, 11:16 AM)
you guys might no believe ayam but ayam at real china company get free leave on cny 3rd day and half day at eve.
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Ccp company, cuti start 25th till 2nd. No tolak leave.
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Jan 13 2025, 10:34 AM)
Mungkin ada staff yg nak kerja keras dlm office buka aircon dgn Starbuck, nasi lemak, pot luck, lagu radio Hit FM sekali minggu tu.

Yg buat Sales kereta, rumah mungkin depa nak cuba hit target, tapi yg kilang-kilang kicap, taufu, furniture, susu, cat-cat rumah, warehouse tu nak buat apa dlm office, Vendor cuti, custom cuti, customer/ client pun cuti kat rumah.
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While it's not right to accuse staff such thing, but possibilities of that happening is high lol.

Not much work to do, bosses are on leave. Deym heaven la of course.

Also those who complaint must have never worked with Western MNC's before. We have this thing called 'Company Closure' where most employees except those in critical operation that is running 24x7 is required to take leave.

Maybe this no one complaint much coz it coincides with Christmas and New Year plus School Holidays.


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post Jan 13 2025, 11:26 AM

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similar like angmo countries lo. they always company wide shutdown from xmas until new years. minus annual leave also. kalau annual leave habis, potong unpaid leave.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:27 AM

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chinamen company mmg dah ade understanding mcm ni.

if you dont wanna work in such culture, pegi MNC la.

no use bising 1.
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post Jan 13 2025, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 13 2025, 10:24 AM)
US company forced to take shutdown leave at the end of the year. Also deducted from annual leave.
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It reminded me that one of my close fren kena (yup it is US company) until he kena hutang cuti. While no celery cut but when his annual leave entitlement refresh, his leave need minus out the hutang leave 1st biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Btw......yang buat bising is low level worker. If you can't accept it, just resign from your 20k celery company.

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