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 Mid Valley Southkey VS PARADIGM VS KSL, JB TOP 3 MALL(Mall & Hotel & Cinema )

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post Nov 14 2024, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 10:29 AM)
PPR....Not exactly what you expect...
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Nadi residences

1050 sq ft

3 bedroom 2 bathrooms

Nice project

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 11:44 AM)
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Nadi residences

1050 sq ft

3 bedroom 2 bathrooms

Nice project
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This is new project or the already built ? the already built that is not accessible from the highway, and need to go in from Bakar Batu...


ok I go google... the building I am talking about are the Flats, while you are talking about new development right beside the ones already built and was actually empty for quite a long time.
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post Nov 14 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:00 PM)
This is new project or the already built ? the already built that is not accessible from the highway, and need to go in from Bakar Batu...
ok I go google... the building I am talking about are the Flats, while you are talking about new development right beside the ones already built and was actually empty for quite a long time.
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This Nadi Residences just opposite mid valley southkey....

Beside PPR Flat

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:09 PM)
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This Nadi Residences just opposite mid valley southkey....

Beside PPR Flat
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it may seem convenient, but the highway infront, jam like crazy, for all the vehicles going towards Permas Jaya and also congestion when going towards CIQ and the opposite direction is jam as crazy going towards Nasa, DatoOnn, Setia Tropika.

think of like, for Skudai at the Paradigm mall.


what is the masterplan for going into the development? if via Kampung Bakar Batu... than... you will have to see how the small road fairs.


They need at least another entry before the entrance to flyover to Midvalley, and that entrance need to have both entry and exit, so you can fly over to Southkey without being congested together with people going to Permas Jaya.



Edit: much like the Paradigm mall's entrance that can be used to go to Bukit Merah.

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post Nov 14 2024, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 11:39 AM)
yea, but as u can see from the plan, its literally next to the flats and after the kampung
I wonder would they have access road to mid valley or not
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Those kampung landed houses are on very narrow roads with many sharp corners, right?

From what I know, Bus T21 (JB Sentral - Permas Jaya) needs to use this road to get to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.

Many cars also use this road and drive very fast.


Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw



https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A



Jalan Pantai

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post Nov 14 2024, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:18 PM)
Those kampung landed houses are on very narrow roads with many sharp corners, right?

From what I know, Bus T21 (JB Sentral - Permas Jaya) needs to use this road to get to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.

Many cars also use this road and drive very fast.
Kampung Bakar Batu

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497849...Y_Lc0VYuLnqnbcw
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.497131...YeLhruiWFMZ1V-A
Jalan Pantai

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actually not this kampung I think, there is another before it
this one have to come in from suria, the jalan mostly flower

seldom ppl know tat road, its from jln Tebrau n exit Bayu permas
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post Nov 14 2024, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:15 PM)
it may seem convenient, but the highway infront, jam like crazy, for all the vehicles going towards Permas Jaya and also congestion when going towards CIQ and the opposite direction is jam as crazy going towards Nasa, DatoOnn, Setia Tropika.

think of like, for Skudai at the Paradigm mall.
what is the masterplan for going into the development? if via Kampung Bakar Batu... than... you will have to see how the small road fairs.
They need at least another entry before the entrance to flyover to Midvalley, and that entrance need to have both entry and exit, so you can fly over to Southkey without being congested together with people going to Permas Jaya.
Edit: much like the Paradigm mall's entrance that can be used to go to Bukit Merah.
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This is KL Eco City (just beside Mid Valley KL)

I think Mid Valley Southkey JB and Paradigm Mall JB should have many flyover or interchange for easier access to the mall entrances and exits.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/11/...destrian-bridge


Owing to poor planning and delays, the bridge has taken 20 years to materialise.

Since 1999, commuters have been unable to access Mid Valley KL from the Abdullah Hukum LRT Station, which sits just across the river.



Hope Southkey Mid Valley do not like Mid Valley KL,need 20 years to solve a problem...

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Is Kampung Bakar Batu a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya?

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:30 PM)
actually not this kampung I think, there is another before it
this one have to come in from suria, the jalan mostly flower

seldom ppl know tat road, its from jln Tebrau n exit Bayu permas
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Google maps show this ....


Kampung Bakar Batu is a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.


Do you know the name of the kampung?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:34 PM)
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Google maps show this ....
Kampung Bakar Batu is a shortcut from Mid Valley Southkey to Bandar Baru Permas Jaya.
Do you know the name of the kampung?
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Nope, I have not taken any shortcuts from kampung bakar Batu.

Instead the people living in there is always trying to exit and go towards South key ... That is one of the worst exits for the people staying there.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:41 PM)
Nope, I have not taken any shortcuts from kampung bakar Batu.

Instead the people living in there is always trying to exit and go towards South key ... That is one of the worst exits for the people staying there.
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early days like decades ago we used the kampung to go to permas
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:42 PM)
early days like decades ago we used the kampung to go to permas
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Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:47 PM)
Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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the bridge bottle neck has always been an issue

all bridges sure fark one, later they upgrade to 3 lanes each side also not enough, then songlap again do 4 each side, cannot one shot do aje

personally I think Bayu doesn't contribute to the jam, but with so many developments along the way there, I think its only going to get worst
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 12:55 PM)
the bridge bottle neck has always been an issue

all bridges sure fark one, later they upgrade to 3 lanes each side also not enough, then songlap again do 4 each side, cannot one shot do aje

personally I think Bayu doesn't contribute to the jam, but with so many developments along the way there, I think its only going to get worst
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I would think that traffic light beneath the bridge 3-4 way, should implement a round about, and during peak hours, the entry into the round-about need to have traffic light, that way smoother. Each side can go for four minutes of continuous flow, than take turns. Cannot do a roundabout with completely no traffic lights, and cannot do those stupid high bumps that slow the traffic too much when people need to speed a little to help clear the congestion...not slow down.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 01:08 PM)
I would think that traffic light beneath the bridge 3-4 way, should implement a round about, and during peak hours, the entry into the round-about need to have traffic light, that way smoother. Each side can go for four minutes of continuous flow, than take turns. Cannot do a roundabout with completely no traffic lights, and cannot do those stupid high bumps that slow the traffic too much when people need to speed a little to help clear the congestion...not slow down.
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I have never seen roundabout with traffic lights here, only sg, I used to laugh at sg drivers dunno how to use roundabout , need traffic light

then when I seen our own msian counterpart using roundabout, gives me high blood every single time
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 01:15 PM)
I have never seen roundabout with traffic lights here, only sg, I used to laugh at sg drivers dunno how to use roundabout , need traffic light

then when I seen our own msian counterpart using roundabout, gives me high blood every single time
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Well I have never seen any roundabouts that have traffic lights, to be honest. But I logically thought that is a solution for how people either refuse to give way, or how, when one side is super aggressive and you have one other side with one timid driver Infront that have no confidence to move into the crash zone.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 01:20 PM)
Well I have never seen any roundabouts that have traffic lights, to be honest. But I logically thought that is a solution for how people either refuse to give way, or how, when one side is super aggressive and you have one other side with one timid driver Infront that have no confidence to move into the crash zone.
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Good idea though

yea, in SG they have it
works like a charm it seems, but full day on traffic lights, maybe diff time intervals during peak hours
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 01:22 PM)
Good idea though

yea, in SG they have it
works like a charm it seems, but full day on traffic lights, maybe diff time intervals during peak hours
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If you have the example in Singapore, pls help tag our Johor Menteri Besar Onn Hafiz on X or somewhere. If he send his Road engineer to go check it out, it could improve Johorean lives alot. Tqvm.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 14 2024, 11:39 AM)
yea, but as u can see from the plan, its literally next to the flats and after the kampung
I wonder would they have access road to mid valley or not
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I guess if MV wants to keep their land price high. lol.
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 14 2024, 02:00 PM)
I guess if MV wants to keep their land price high. lol.
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I remember southkey macam all leasehold land
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Nov 14 2024, 12:47 PM)
Yeah, possible but the jam is so bad already plus bayu puteri have so much highrise, so if you factor in the flats being occupied... And now the new development.... People are not going to be happy.

Permas bridge probably needs to be 4 lanes each way or have additional 4 lanes that also contraflow.
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Permas bridge used to be one bridge only. 2lanes - one lane in, one lane out.

Then upgrade, build another bridge. The existing bridge towards permas is the older of the two.

So become 4 lanes. But what happen is the Bakar batu junction problem was never fully resolved.

During the dinosaur year, coming from southkey direction, the traffic needs to passby that jalan pantai, basically cross a bit into the village, and exit at the current entrance into bakar batu. This created massive jam.

Then after they redevelop the whole junction to the current form, another 2 problems occurs. That cacat cross juction that looks like 2 T junction kissing each other.

From permas, exiting the road without going up to EDL or coming from town, all bottle neck in that bloody junction. So again, the bridge jam.

They should have create another flyover ease the traffic to EDL/PLUS north. But somehow the authority in JB is big with creating junctions and traffic light. Totally ridiculous.

Same like what happen at the current EDL exit to JB near the immigration for vehicles. Totally ridiculous jam.

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