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 Mid Valley Southkey VS PARADIGM VS KSL, JB TOP 3 MALL(Mall & Hotel & Cinema )

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post Nov 8 2024, 01:48 AM, updated 19h ago

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πŸ›οΈ Major Shopping Malls in Johor Bahru - Overview & Comparison


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Bus J15 Mid valley to jb sentral

Bus J21 Maximum fare from Hub Permas Jaya to JB Sentral is RM 2.70 (go to aeon permas jaya and opp Renaissance Johor Bahru Hotel)


Maximum fare from SOGO Mid Valley to JB Sentral is RM 1.70.




🏒 1. The Mall, Mid Valley Southkey (5227.KL)

Location: 1, Persiaran Southkey 1, Southkey, 80150 Johor Bahru

Attached Hotel: 🏨

St. Giles Southkey Hotel
575 rooms

28th floor

(shares parking, flat RM5/day for hotel/event guests)

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema (Level 3 - Mezzanine)

πŸ›‹οΈ 18 Halls

🎟️ 1,686 Seating Capacity


Anchor Tenants:

πŸ›οΈ SOGO (Levels G, 1, 2)

🧰 Harvey Norman (LG level)


Events: Mid Valley Exhibition Centre (Level 3)

Parking:

πŸ…ΏοΈ 5,000 Bays

πŸ’³ Cashless: Credit/Debit/Touch 'n Go


Accessibility:

πŸ“ Near Eastern Dispersal Link (EDL), Tebrau Highway, Jalan Bakar Batu

πŸš— 5-min drive from JB CIQ / Causeway


Shortcuts:

πŸ›£οΈ Kampung Bakar Batu to Permas Jaya




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🏒 2. Paradigm Mall Johor Bahru (5338.KL)

Location: Jalan Skudai, Taman Bukit Mewah, 81200 Johor Bahru

Opening: 2017

Attached Hotel: 🏨 Hyatt Place Johor Bahru

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema (Level 7)

πŸ›‹οΈ 16 Halls

🎟️ 2,137 Seating Capacity (largest in Johor)


Anchor Tenants:

πŸ›’ Village Grocer (premium supermarket)

πŸ›οΈ Parkson (200,000 sq ft)


Parking: Multi-level

Claim to Fame:

🏒 Larger than Singapore’s VivoCity (1.5 mil sq ft)

πŸ™οΈ Integrated with residential and commercial units


Shortcuts:

From Taman Ungku Tun Aminah via Jalan Danga Sutera utama

πŸš— 6-min drive from





🏒 3. KSL City Mall

Opened: December 2010

Net Lettable Area (NLA): 775,000 sq ft

Occupancy Rate: Over 90%

Adjacent Hotel: 868-room hotel (opened April 2012)

Occupancy Rate: ~70% in 2013, increased to ~75% in 2014





Location: Taman Abad, Johor Bahru

Nearby Hotels: 🏨 KSL Hotel, 🏨 Holiday Villa, 🏨 Novotel Johor Bahru

Cinema: 🎬 GSC Cinema

πŸ›‹οΈ 8 Halls

🎟️ 1,378 Seating Capacity


Inside this mall:

πŸͺ Lotus’s Supermarket


Claim to Fame:

πŸ›οΈ 3 Major hotels


KSL Hotel,
Novotel Hotel,
Holiday Villa Hotel,
New York Hotel,
Grand Paragon Hotel ,
Crystal Crown hotel


within walking or driving distance!




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🧾 Additional Info

IGB REIT (5227): Owns Mid Valley Megamall & The Gardens; potential injection of Mid Valley Southkey into the REIT still pending.

WCT Holdings Bhd (9679):

Paradigm Mall JB developer; received approval to list Paradigm REIT (5338) (Mar 2025).


KSL (5038.KL)




Paradigm REIT Initial Portfolio:

Bukit Tinggi Shopping Centre: 1,000,950 sq ft (GLA)

Paradigm Mall PJ: 680,177 sq ft (NLA)

Paradigm Mall JB: 1,291,165 sq ft (NLA)




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### πŸ”„ Quick Comparison Table

Mall Opening Year Cinema Halls Cinema Capacity Attached Hotel Parking Bays Anchor Tenants
Mid Valley Southkey 23 April 2019 18 1,686 St. Giles Southkey Hotel 5,000 SOGO, Harvey Norman, Exhibition Hall
Paradigm Mall JB 2017 16 2,137 Hyatt Place JB Multi-level Parkson, Village Grocer
KSL City Mall 2010 8 1,378 850 rooms KSL Hotel - Lotus's, various retail outlets

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### βœ… Conclusion
- **Best for Cinemas Capacity **: 🎬 Mid Valley Megamall Southkey JB (Largest seating because it have 18 halls )


- **Most Convenient for Travel/Access**:
πŸš— Mid Valley Southkey (Near Jb CIQ, 3 highways , Jalan Bakar Baru, Jalan Tebrau, EDL )

Bus T21
Permas Jaya <> JB Sentral


KSL City Mall have public bus

Bus F100
KSL City Mall <> JB Sentral


- **Best Hotel Integration**: 🏨 KSL City Mall (3 hotels side-by-side!)

🚧 **Note**: Always check current traffic and parking availability on Google Maps.

πŸ“ [Google Maps: Mid Valley Southkey](https://maps.app.goo.gl/XsMzxgeHa5uGVsLu8?g_st=ac)
πŸ“ [More info on Paradigm Mall](https://www.wct.com.my/images/projects/paradigm-mall-jb.jpg)



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🚧 Note: Always check current traffic and parking availability on Google Maps.

πŸ“ Google Maps: Mid Valley Southkey πŸ“ More info on Paradigm Mall

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 8 2024, 07:00 AM)
Why? What they want?
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 8 2024, 07:26 AM)
They provide any service?
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Should be massage



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Roti kosong seems nice




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QUOTE(Joker123 @ Nov 8 2024, 07:56 AM)
midvalley southkey is nice..but they also primary targeting sinkie and not local...
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Mall management or the shop inside mid valley JB?
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QUOTE(Joker123 @ Nov 8 2024, 08:01 AM)
both ba....the mall is nice mean the management is doing a good job and i think it is also necessary to attract sinkine.Β  very crowded also especially weekend because you know sinkie come in during weekend. i sometime see fb people post they jam at the car park 2-3hours just to exit
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The 5,000 parking slots in the mall also cause traffic jams.Haiz

Traffic congestion occurs mainly due to road jams outside the mall?

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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 8 2024, 08:27 AM)
midvalley southkey should have been in near the bridge but instead they put RF mall there
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We already have JB City Square near the JB Customs.

The city area already has enough cars to cause traffic congestion.
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Nov 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
i am curious, KSL mall still packed with ppl and jam there. Is it because cheaper items can be found there?
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It should be near many car wash and massage shops, restaurants, salons

Also KSL Hotel.
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Nov 8 2024, 09:50 AM)
No. KSL items are not any cheaper compare to SouthKey. It's due to it's close proximity to causeway and the fact it has a hotel/apartment above. With so many people staying there, it's bound to be packed. But I dislike KSL. Find it messy and the last time I was there, the basement carpark rek of sewage smell. puke.gif

SouthKey is the best in terms of atmosphere. However, once I got caught in jam exiting carpark due to highway jam leading to Pasir Gudang. Folks simply refuses to give way.

Paradigm is getting better but the carpark structure sucks.
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Mid Valley Southkey have many exit right?

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Paradigm Mall JB has a nice bridge link connecting to Jalan Skudai and the Pusat Perdagangan Danga Utama area.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 8 2024, 09:59 AM)
Lots of Sinkies stay and shop there. The Lotus's is always packed like sardines.
Got many makan places in and outside the mall. Monday night got pasar malam.
There's a bus that takes shoppers to ciq for RM1.50.

I stayed in the hotel quite a few times before.
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They always come to Lotus's to buy fruits,beer, Milo, rice, milk, shampoo, oats, biscuits, snacks, noodles, and sugar, right?

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:05 AM)
If you see the picture, the actual exit only 2.

One from the top left, and another from the lower middle right.

Yeah, the car park got a few exit points but the actual road out of the vicinity is practically only 2.

The one on the top left, will kena block if EDL jam or the exit to bakar batu is jammed (which happen frequently enough)

The lower middle right exit, is slightly better as it got path to leave EDL section. But there is a not very big traffic light intersection there.

This MV very easy gridlock.

Paradigm problem good is it exits to one of the biggest road in JB and the entry/exit is separate. But if got problem, those inside the car park will kena teruk
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Mid Valley Southkey ,owned by IGB Company, is so clever.

Don’t they have any other solutions for this issue?

Do you have any good suggestions?



Do you mean that if there's a traffic jam on Jalan Skudai, all the cars in Paradigm Mall JB won't be able to exit the car parks as well?

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:20 AM)
The upper left road is actually a flyover into southkey.

I think they need an extra exit flyover further away. To avoid bakar batu/edl combo jam.

I forget there is a small exit to the north of EDL. But this one will be a difficult exit if bakar batu traffic volume is high.

Coming soon, the roundabout on the left of the map, will open to another side of the southkey area. It should elevate the jam a bit but those seeking for a quick path to bakar batu and edl wont be benefited much.

Both actually. If Jln Skudai too jam, paradigm mall ppl either take the taman road to escape or jam into jln skudai. But because the car park design is not very good, the jam is more likely to be internal during peak hours.

If come from JB side, then the flyover into paradigm mall is famous for jam due to the volume enter, even if jln skudai is not jam.
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I often spend at least 30 minutes looking for a parking space in Paradigm Mall JB.

Usually, only level 3 has available spaces. Levels UG, G, 1, and 2 are usually full.


I think their parking spaces less than 2000.


The Hyatt Place Hotel is open now, and they share parking with the mall, right?



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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Nov 8 2024, 10:39 AM)
Sunway Big Box > all
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https://www.gsc.com.my/cinema/gsc-sunway-big-box/



8 halls only.....
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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Nov 8 2024, 10:45 AM)
lol most of the malls are target for stinkaporeans
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Even our Legoland and Adventure Waterpark Desaru Coast also......
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:42 AM)
Not sure o. Long time didnt go paradigm after MV open.

Cause paradigm wasnt that great last time when KSL is the better place.
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This was during 2020.Covid-19 era.

Why gate 4 so special?
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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Nov 8 2024, 10:54 AM)
Like I always say, Malaysia must have the balls to build 100 fully-manned customs lanes to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

How many loaves of bread or how many rolls of toilet paper can Singapore consume?

Why 33 million Malaysia scared of 6 million Singapore bangwall.gifΒ  bangwall.gifΒ  bangwall.gif
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Well, at this rate, Johor could build the lanes and still have enough room for 10 shopping mall, 10 theme park, and even a new LRT/MRT line at jb or gelang patah area to handle all the 'Singaporean tourists'!

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 10:57 AM)
this one is to the multi storied parking. direct access to the shopping floor but limited in spaces.

but i dont like to park there. macam parking in singapore car park.
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Is this level from the JB customs direction?

Can you see that almost all the cars in the car park on this level have Singapore license plates?
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Nov 8 2024, 11:13 AM)
Nowadays ppl still walking biggest mall?tak pernat meh when the place over big?
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Most people just go to the cinema or walk through one level only; they don’t usually explore all the levels.


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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Nov 8 2024, 11:03 AM)
Singaporeans don't steal, rob or smuggle drugs in Malaysia since most of them are richer than us.

Malaysia should just open up our borders to Singapore so that Malaysia can benefit from Singaporeans spending their precious Singapore dollars here.

Then we can talk about 1S$ = RM 2 rclxm9.gifΒ  rclxm9.gifΒ  rclxm9.gif
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The citizen population inched up 0.7 per cent to 3.64 million in June 2024 compared with a year earlier, while the permanent resident (PR) population grew 1.2 per cent to 544,900 over the same period.


The non-resident population rose 5 per cent to 1.86 million, with the increase seen across most work pass types, said the publication.

Work permit holders contributed the most to the increase, followed by migrant domestic workers.

There were approximately 269 thousandΒ  (0.269 millions) foreigners employed as migrant domestic workers (MDWs) in Singapore.


Singapore’s population of 6.04 million includes not only citizens and PRs but also all work pass holders, domestic helpers, and construction workers.


The total number of Singapore citizens and permanent residents is just 4,184,900.

4.18 millions only.

Other than that, 1.82 million people are work pass holders or LTVP.

Not all of them will travel to Malaysia, even if we had 100 manual customs counters.

Many high-income individuals (T20) in Singapore are concerned about safety and would avoid visiting Malaysia, even if offered a free five-night stay at Renaissance Hotel Permas Jaya, free petrol, or money.

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Nov 8 2024, 11:06 AM)
Kind of. Since they exit SG to EDL directly, it is the most logical way that they will enter MV directly when they exit EDL to the elevated circle lanes, into gate 4. Cause gate 4 is not on the ground level. (there is a lane that go to the basement parking at the same EDL exit mentioned here which is nearer than gate 4, but i guess SG ppl prefer to see sky).

But then, during weekend, it is also very likely to see 4 to 5 sg plats, out of 10 in basement parking.3
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1:17 outside of mall have so many parking space?









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