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post Nov 2 2024, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Nov 2 2024, 02:56 PM)
This will largely benefited their city folks. And if those unis accept admission from outside Sarawak, even less Sarawakian can be admitted 😬
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Yup, no quota? hmm.gif
In reality only Sarawakian can be admitted, no?

Unless they are like Singapore offering the best of best from ASEAN!
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post Nov 2 2024, 04:09 PM

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I would love to see Sarawak succeed. With the riches it has it can prosper n benefit its people. Most important is the leaders must be clean n fair. Swk needs strong partners from advanced countries not WM. Expand into Green energy, modern agriculture, ecotourism. Spend n develop the remote disadvantaged areas with hydro+solar+wind energy, clean water, satellite comm, online learning. Set up more TVETs for those required expertise.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 03:09 PM)
Problem is there are talents among tree people but they might not necessarily get the right early education. Conversely, there are dumbfuck rich kids with lots of supports from early age. Which one will win meritocracy?

Now here’s the kicker: those dumbfuck rich kids will even get free tertiary education! Lulz


https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/07/...arawakians-2026
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At least they don't use degrading terms like "tree-people" like yourself, give you unlimited education also no use.


QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 03:19 PM)
You’ll be surprised how many dumbfucks are in the unis, because their academic achievements do not show as such. Rote learning at its best.

But yeah, my point is these rich kids with various supports will get free tertiary education as well as disadvantaged poor tree people. Meritocracy ftw!
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Education, regardless meritocracy or not, should be made available to everyone.

It's a basic human rights. If they are really not achieving, what makes you think that they are eligible for university?

It states FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL, they did not say FREE EDUCATION COMPULSORY ENROLLMENT FOR ALL, there's a difference.


QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 03:26 PM)
Meritocracy has its benefit, to retain talents based on merits, which I support.
But if gov't is not inclusive to provide edu for slow learners then wealthgap will widen.

Hopefully Sarawak will live up to this promise of reform and not let slow learners drop out, maybe slow could be introduced into TVET.
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Provide education for slow learners is entirely okay, if the achievers are prioritized as per the meritocracy. If after priority still got space, why not?


QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 03:32 PM)
Here’s the thing: the meritocracy part is good. But it has to focus on equity rather than equality.

Rafizi said something about this a while back. He said it’s not fair to compare his child studying in one of the best public schools in Putrajaya with a poor child in rural area.

Sarawak govt has to acknowledge that the rich-poor gap in the state is quite large. To have a perfectly level playing field is impossible, but working towards equity will mean giving a bit of leeway towards disadvantaged poor students.
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Your opinion, heavily plagued with assumptions. Seems that education too, has failed you.

I too, can assume that you are just another keyboard warrior that have so much opinion on what others do, but does not contribute significantly towards your own local community.

Also while at it I might also add, enjoying aircond and does not know the hardships of walking through jungle and crossing river just to get education and then - get labelled by some forumer as "tree people" or even "dumb fuck".

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post Nov 2 2024, 04:11 PM

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It's going to be even more quota now. Why?

Non nons get high GPA through their kanak2 level matrix exam

Everyone else gets GPA from stpm

Non nons won't level the playing field for you

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 02:56 PM)
Congrats!
Org Asli kid did not do well in school won't have chance to enter university.
Rich kids got lots of tuition can enjoy state university

Rich gets rich, poor gets tax and debt.
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erm to be fair, rich get taxed more, poor got bantuan with less tax.
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 02:56 PM)
Congrats!
Org Asli kid did not do well in school won't have chance to enter university.
Rich kids got lots of tuition can enjoy state university

Rich gets rich, poor gets tax and debt.
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Actually there's still Uitm for those orang asli or iban or bidayuh.
Where meritocracy can parking tepi.
Janji you're bumi.
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QUOTE(exclus1ve @ Nov 2 2024, 04:25 PM)
Actually there's still Uitm for those orang asli or iban or bidayuh.
Where meritocracy can parking tepi.
Janji you're bumi.
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let just say bumi are not equal

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post Nov 2 2024, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 02:56 PM)
Congrats!
Org Asli kid did not do well in school won't have chance to enter university.
Rich kids got lots of tuition can enjoy state university

Rich gets rich, poor gets tax and debt.
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It's not about tuition. It's the upbringing whether they want to study or how the parents encourage / push them. Do you know many kids go tuition results are just like crap? Parents sometimes send to tuition to be like a daycare centre. Dont use old excuse to justify race base entry. If really want to help the poor, then provide them the tools to excel. Not feed them.
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Well done Sarawak!
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 2 2024, 04:30 PM)
let just say bumi are not equal

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Ya i get what u mean. 1st and 2nd class bumi.
But still, there's still uitm for them if they fail to masuk the five so called state uni by meritocracy.

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post Nov 2 2024, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 03:45 PM)
Let me rephrase it this way.

Which one is smarter and more deserving of a place in uni: a rich kid studying in aircond all day with tuitions on weekends or a poor kid in rural area who has to walk many miles to school in jungle, crossing river, studying in a semi-collapsed wooden school? Both got 7A1s.
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Based on meritocracy, both equally deserve a spot. You cannot punish the urban kid for being born in that family, and vice versa.

That's meritocracy.
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Nov 2 2024, 03:55 PM)
Democracy gives citizen the power to vote and voice, so I hope you dont let new drag you by the nose, instead voice out good ideas. Cheers!
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Like I said, don't lari tajuk la... what has the ori article have to do with democracy la, power to vote and voice la, etc.

Stick to the topic so everyone can debate our opinions objectively.
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Nov 2 2024, 02:54 PM)
Only S&S can do this.
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Sorry only Swak can.
Sabah cant even grow some ball to go against federal
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post Nov 2 2024, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 2 2024, 08:55 AM)
You have your point, but you are assuming only bumi students are poor and require quota to give them a leg up. Many non bumis are also too poor to enrol in private tertiary institutions if they can't enrol in public u.

Ask yourself: with quota in place, how many rural bumis still miss out on tertiary education? Using your reasoning (quota helps rural poor bumi), we should expect many rural poor bumi to be studying in university, kan? Is this the reality, especially among bumi orang Asli?
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Hence I mentioned earlier about equity vs equality.

I didn’t say anything about bumi or non. How’d you came up with that? Are you that tertindas until you conjure up stuff in your own mind?
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post Nov 2 2024, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Nov 2 2024, 09:10 AM)
At least they don't use degrading terms like "tree-people" like yourself, give you unlimited education also no use.
Education, regardless meritocracy or not, should be made available to everyone.

It's a basic human rights. If they are really not achieving, what makes you think that they are eligible for university?

It states FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL, they did not say FREE EDUCATION COMPULSORY ENROLLMENT FOR ALL, there's a difference.
Provide education for slow learners is entirely okay, if the achievers are prioritized as per the meritocracy. If after priority still got space, why not?
Your opinion, heavily plagued with assumptions. Seems that education too, has failed you.

I too, can assume that you are just another keyboard warrior that have so much opinion on what others do, but does not contribute significantly towards your own local community.

Also while at it I might also add, enjoying aircond and does not know the hardships of walking through jungle and crossing river just to get education and then - get labelled by some forumer as "tree people" or even "dumb fuck".
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Seriously, you wrote that long without any substance? Impressive.
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post Nov 2 2024, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Nov 2 2024, 09:33 AM)
Based on meritocracy, both equally deserve a spot. You cannot punish the urban kid for being born in that family, and vice versa.

That's meritocracy.
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You do know student intake in university is not unlimited?

Hence I said which one is more deserving. Because these kids are not equal even when their results are.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 06:10 PM)
Seriously, you wrote that long without any substance? Impressive.
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Thank you for proving my point.

Assumptions.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Nov 2 2024, 06:12 PM)
You do know student intake in university is not unlimited?

Hence I said which one is more deserving. Because these kids are not equal even when their results are.
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Meritocracy is exactly what it means.

If both score exactly the same, then will examine co-curricular achievements, sporting contributions.

Again, you've never been in the giving end of education.

Hence, assumption and talk cucks here only.
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post Nov 2 2024, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Nov 2 2024, 02:47 PM)
No more 'quota system' for state-owned universities, says Sarawak minister

SIBU: Admission into five state-owned universities in Sarawak will be based solely on meritocracy to pick the best of the best, says state Deputy Minister of Education, Innovation and Talent Development Datuk Dr Annuar Rapaee.

"Students need to know that enrolment for these universities is no longer based on a quota system. In other words, it's based on meritocracy," said Dr Annuar at the Sarawak Career and Training Fair (SCaT) 2024 on Saturday (Nov 2)

He said that with a system of meritocracy, students have to compete for places.

"Students must realise the importance of competition in order to pursue their studies in university," he added.

The five universities are Swinburne University of Technology Sarawak Campus, Curtin University Malaysia, University of Technology Sarawak, i-CATS University College, and Centre for Technology Excellence Sarawak (Centexs).

According to Dr Annuar, for Sarawak to advance towards becoming a developed state, meritocracy is the "only way to train talents and pick the best of the best among our students."

To ensure rural students can gain admission to these universities, he said the Sarawak government is upgrading their facilities, which includes spending RM15mil yearly to provide free tuition for Form 3 and Form 5 students.

Dr Annuar was representing minister Datuk Seri Roland Sagah Wee Inn at the function.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...arawak-minister
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Abang what you tokkok.
Not private uni kah? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(iSean @ Nov 2 2024, 06:16 PM)
Abang what you tokkok.
Not private uni kah?  shocking.gif
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It's owned by the sarawak state goverment.

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