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post Apr 30 2025, 10:28 AM

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Any 1 know that the minimum requirement for application run in external storage? 10gbps would be enough?
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post Apr 30 2025, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 10:28 AM)
Any 1 know that the minimum requirement for application run in external storage? 10gbps would be enough?
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i use 40GBps.
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post Apr 30 2025, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Apr 30 2025, 12:23 PM)
i use 40GBps.
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Looking for abit price friendly..hahaha! biggrin.gif
Actually looking for Orico 1..but still looking other alternative! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2025, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 12:29 PM)
Looking for abit price friendly..hahaha! biggrin.gif
Actually looking for Orico 1..but still looking other alternative! biggrin.gif
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200+ only. heat management is better. my friend use orico, need to use fan to blow...lol
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post Apr 30 2025, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Apr 30 2025, 01:19 PM)
200+ only. heat management is better. my friend use orico, need to use fan to blow...lol
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got what can recommend? The orico i looking for it has build in Fan.
https://shopee.com.my/ORICO-M.2-NVMe-SSD-En...244.23355620733
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post Apr 30 2025, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 02:43 PM)
got what can recommend? The orico i looking for it has build in Fan.
https://shopee.com.my/ORICO-M.2-NVMe-SSD-En...244.23355620733
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that what was my friend is using. the problem is fan should be bottom of the nvme. not on top. the heat cannot go out. so my friend now dont close the case and use another fan to blow....joke of the day .
due to heat, the nvme keep dc

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post Apr 30 2025, 04:19 PM


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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 10:28 AM)
Any 1 know that the minimum requirement for application run in external storage? 10gbps would be enough?
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I'm also using 40Gbps enclosure. Acasis enclosure with Adata SX8200 Pro. Got this back in 2021. I did some speed tests. It doesn't reach 40Gbps. More info here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry99759788

Also have a 10Gbps Orico but have only tested it with a 256GB SSD. Speeds seems slow.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110499693
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Just tested WD SN850X 2TB SSD in Acasis USB4/TBT3 enclosure on the mbam4. Good speeds. Same results with included tbt3 cable and Orico USB4 cable.

Not sure if getting a tbt4 enclosure will make things any faster.

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post Apr 30 2025, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Apr 30 2025, 02:50 PM)
that what was my friend is using. the problem is fan should be bottom of the nvme. not on top. the heat cannot go out. so my friend now dont close the case and use another fan to blow....joke of the day .
due to heat, the nvme keep dc
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what you suggest or recommend or what you using right now sad.gif

QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 30 2025, 05:23 PM)
Just tested WD SN850X 2TB SSD in Acasis USB4/TBT3 enclosure on the mbam4. Good speeds. Same results with included tbt3 cable and Orico USB4 cable.

Not sure if getting a tbt4 enclosure will make things any faster.

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The rate even faster than my internal ssd..
10gbps enclosure is budget friendly but the speed is 500mb/s i think might still ok...it same as my mac mini 2014 with 980pro nvme ssd..haha

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post Apr 30 2025, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 05:44 PM)
what you suggest or recommend or what you using right now sad.gif
The rate even faster than my internal ssd..
10gbps enclosure is budget friendly but the speed is 500mb/s i think might still ok...it same as my mac mini 2014 with 980pro nvme ssd..haha
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i'm using ugreen 40GBps. Less heat and better management. run well
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 05:44 PM)
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The rate even faster than my internal ssd..
10gbps enclosure is budget friendly but the speed is 500mb/s i think might still ok...it same as my mac mini 2014 with 980pro nvme ssd..haha
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Retested the Orico 10Gbps with my mbam4. Better write speeds than previous post with M1.
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I think most, if not all, will be using the chipset. My Orico 10Gbps is Realtek RTL9210.

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Anyone tried upgrading the internal SSD to 2TB on a m4 Mac mini?

Thinking to get those 2TB third party kit and upgrade it myself.

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post May 26 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Apr 30 2025, 10:28 AM)
Any 1 know that the minimum requirement for application run in external storage? 10gbps would be enough?
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yes 10gbps will be enough for most case. Plenty of speed and runs cool. I even boot macOS on 10gbps external SSD. Currently using 2230 SSD. Attached Image

40Gbps surely is fast but also will get warm and hot to touch depending on your environment. The SSD's will disconnect itself when its overheat.

This post has been edited by firdausbhari: May 26 2025, 03:53 PM
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post May 26 2025, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ May 26 2025, 03:45 PM)
yes 10gbps will be enough for most case. Plenty of speed and runs cool. I even boot macOS on 10gbps external SSD. Currently using 2230 SSD. Attached Image

40Gbps surely is fast but also will get warm and hot to touch depending on your environment. The SSD's will disconnect itself when its overheat.
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may i know where you get that enclosure ya?
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post May 26 2025, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ May 26 2025, 03:45 PM)
yes 10gbps will be enough for most case. Plenty of speed and runs cool. I even boot macOS on 10gbps external SSD. Currently using 2230 SSD. Attached Image

40Gbps surely is fast but also will get warm and hot to touch depending on your environment. The SSD's will disconnect itself when its overheat.
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Hagibis ...lol
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post May 26 2025, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Skeuomorphic @ May 26 2025, 04:19 PM)
may i know where you get that enclosure ya?
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post May 26 2025, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ May 26 2025, 04:27 PM)
Hagibis ...lol
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Its realtek 9210B. Despite what brand it is, as long as chipset is good.
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post May 26 2025, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
Its realtek 9210B. Despite what brand it is, as long as chipset is good.
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it is not bad this brand. got few items using this brand. trusted brand
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post May 27 2025, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ May 26 2025, 03:45 PM)
yes 10gbps will be enough for most case. Plenty of speed and runs cool. I even boot macOS on 10gbps external SSD. Currently using 2230 SSD. Attached Image

40Gbps surely is fast but also will get warm and hot to touch depending on your environment. The SSD's will disconnect itself when its overheat.
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So small wont overheat? biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2025, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(shyan90's @ May 27 2025, 11:09 AM)
So small wont overheat?  biggrin.gif
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the culprit for overheat is the chipset. USB4 ASMedia or Intel JH can get quite hot for long run. Your SSD can operate up to 85c. But when your overall PCB gets hot, it will affect the SSD as well.

Every 10gbps enclosure runs cool nevertheless. Please do research before jumping to conclusion.

This post has been edited by firdausbhari: May 27 2025, 12:46 PM

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