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post Nov 6 2024, 01:26 AM

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MG ZS EV now available for RM99,999: The cheapest electric SUV in Malaysia

26k discount, people.

https://soyacincau.com/2024/11/05/mg-zs-ev-...uv-in-malaysia/

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 6 2024, 01:26 AM)
MG ZS EV now available for RM99,999: The cheapest electric SUV in Malaysia

26k discount, people.

https://soyacincau.com/2024/11/05/mg-zs-ev-...uv-in-malaysia/
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Good article with the comparison table on EV SUVs available in Malaysia. Only Xpeng G6 and Tesla Model Y is missing.
IMO the MG ZS EV is too old, smaller range, smaller size, based on multi-power platform (not pure EV platform) and too basic, but the new price is very good value for money. IMO MG waited too long to adjust their prices and they now face the risk of missing the boat completely. The Atto 3 at around RM120k will likely sell better but many people will now wait for Proton eMas 7 and if the price is good, they will likely pay more for it as it is a better vehicle all around anyway.


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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Nov 6 2024, 11:24 AM)
Good article with the comparison table on EV SUVs available in Malaysia. Only Xpeng G6 and Tesla Model Y is missing.
IMO the MG ZS EV is too old, smaller range, smaller size, based on multi-power platform (not pure EV platform) and too basic, but the new price is very good value for money. IMO MG waited too long to adjust their prices and they now face the risk of missing the boat completely. The Atto 3 at around RM120k will likely sell better but many people will now wait for Proton eMas 7 and if the price is good, they will likely pay more for it as it is a better vehicle all around anyway.
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For what it is worth, I hope it will start more rounds of price cuts for others.

MG is dubbed the undisputed kilowatt-per-dollar king in Australia

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/detai...d-mg-zs-147042/

While in Thailand , they announced extended lifetime warranty for four models: MG4 Electric, MG Maxus 9, MG Maxus 7 and the new MG Cyberster.


The extended lifetime warranty is for High-Voltage Battery, Electric Drive Unit and Power Electronic Bloc

Source: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motori...for-four-models. View our policies at http://goo.gl/9HgTd and http://goo.gl/ou6Ip.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 6 2024, 01:40 PM)
For what it is worth, I hope it will start more rounds of price cuts for others.

MG is dubbed the undisputed kilowatt-per-dollar king in Australia

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/detai...d-mg-zs-147042/

While in Thailand , they announced extended lifetime warranty for four models: MG4 Electric, MG Maxus 9, MG Maxus 7 and the new MG Cyberster.
The extended lifetime warranty is for High-Voltage Battery, Electric Drive Unit and Power Electronic Bloc

Source: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motori...for-four-models. View our policies at http://goo.gl/9HgTd and http://goo.gl/ou6Ip.
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Yup, there is bound to be more price cuts especially after Proton confirm the prices for the two emas 7 variants. But it will be better for everyone if there are more players that do well in our market. Right now it seems like only BYD and Tesla are doing good numbers. BMW also seems to be doing well in the premium segment.

Xpeng is also doing well but from the way Bermaz is doing things can clearly see that they don't want to invest much into it because they know it will not sell once 2026 rolls in due to the end of CBU tax exemption. Bermax is well known for abandoning their brands like what they did to Kia and Peugeot, so I would expect no support for parts and repairs in a few years.

The rest seem to be selling in very small numbers which will make it difficult to keep their service centres running beyond 2026.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Nov 6 2024, 03:55 PM)
Yup, there is bound to be more price cuts especially after Proton confirm the prices for the two emas 7 variants. But it will be better for everyone if there are more players that do well in our market. Right now it seems like only BYD and Tesla are doing good numbers. BMW also seems to be doing well in the premium segment.

Xpeng is also doing well but from the way Bermaz is doing things can clearly see that they don't want to invest much into it because they know it will not sell once 2026 rolls in due to the end of CBU tax exemption. Bermax is well known for abandoning their brands like what they did to Kia and Peugeot, so I would expect no support for parts and repairs in a few years.

The rest seem to be selling in very small numbers which will make it difficult to keep their service centres running beyond 2026.
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It is a chicken and egg situation. We need to spur up car buyers interest to look at EV as their car buying choice over ICE or hybrid whenever and wherever they can. Why BYD and Tesla is doing better boils down to buyers' confidence of their brand as they are the leading brand without doubt.

But if we look at Top 10 YTD, I am not as discouraged.

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I still see hope for Chery Omoda E5, GWM Ora Good Cat/07 and MG4. To put things in perspective, their sales are now topping over Subaru XV and closing in on Mazda CX3

https://www.pcauto.com/my/sales-ranking

You have to consider the fact that these brands are relatively unfamiliar compare to Mazda and Subaru

For me I also find solace to see BEV actually sell better than hybrid here, so the incentive by government somewhat works.

https://www.wapcar.my/news/sales-of-hybrids...le-for-it-80475
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More expensive than Tesla because need to buy 2.
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It’s an affordable electric car compare to other brand. Quality don’t know yet
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https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/11/...ack-petrol-cars

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Geely: Once drivers try EVs, they won't go back to petrol cars
By Bernama
November 6, 2024 @ 11:48am


HANGZHOU: Electric vehicles (EVs) are gaining momentum globally, with China at the forefront of this shift toward eco-friendly transportation.

Geely Holdings Group's global communications lead, Ashley Sutcliffe, said that once drivers switch to EVs, "they won't go back to petrol," underscoring the market's transformative potential.

"It's like buying a car and then going back to a horse. It's really uncomfortable. I easily drove 3,000 kilometres on a road trip, and the electricity bill was 415 yuan (about RM255). In a petrol car, that would have been at least 1,500 yuan.

"Petrol here is twice the price of Malaysia, making it very expensive to use," he told Malaysian reporters recently.

The media delegation's visit to Geely's headquarters was part of the Malaysian Media Visit Programme to China, organised by the Malaysia-China Friendship Association (PPMC) to mark the 50th anniversary of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Sutcliffe revealed that EVs have accounted for 53 per cent of China's monthly car sales in recent months, equivalent to around two million units each month—a sign of rapid public acceptance and rising demand.

He noted that this surge is driven by extensive charging infrastructure and affordable prices.

Early EV models priced at 500,000–600,000 yuan are now available for as low as 30,000 yuan, making them accessible to a broader market and fuelling their popularity.

"So, once you have the scale, the price drops down, adoption goes up," he said.

Malaysia's EV market, he added, while still in its infancy, holds promise.

The government's National Energy Transition Roadmap (NETR) aims for EVs to make up 80 per cent of the nation's industry volume by 2040, with plans to establish 10,000 charging stations by 2025 and increase EV numbers to 500,000 by 2030.

Sutcliffe believes Malaysia's renewable energy resources, such as solar, wind, and hydro, will ease EV infrastructure development.

"I believe this country will be a new energy leader in the future," he said, citing Malaysia's renewable energy potential.

He also stressed the importance of government initiatives in kickstarting infrastructure, adding, "Once the government gives that first push, the stone just keeps rolling."

– BERNAMA

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 7 2024, 09:52 AM)
Yes...! EV powertrain is thumbup.gif

Driving a BEV for months now, almost time to renew insurance too. No turning back, now surveying for an affordable BEV for wife. So far e.MAS 7 is my top pick, but my wife is allergy towards the kucing logo sweat.gif need to continue persuading her... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 7 2024, 10:21 AM)
Yes...! EV powertrain is  thumbup.gif

Driving a BEV for months now, almost time to renew insurance too. No turning back, now surveying for an affordable BEV for wife. So far e.MAS 7 is my top pick, but my wife is allergy towards the kucing logo  sweat.gif need to continue persuading her...  laugh.gif
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What she wants , she gets, so what she really wants?
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https://soyacincau.com/2024/11/08/byd-seali...alaysia-14-nov/

Launching 14.11.2024

Sime Darby Motors has revealed that it will be hosting the Sealion 7 showcase at The Exchange 106, Kuala Lumpur from 15 to 17 November.

Sign up for the test drive event through BYD Malaysia’s official website. Alternatively, check it out at BYD showrooms nationwide on the same weekend.
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https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...assembled-omoda
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Cars Bikes Trucks
Chery Auto Malaysia rolls out first locally assembled OMODA E5 electric vehicle

By Adie Zulkifli
November 9, 2024 @ 12:59am

KULIM: Chery Auto Malaysia has rolled-off the first Completely Knocked Down (CKD) unit of the OMODA E5 from Inokom Plant here, the Chinese automaker's first fully electric vehicle for the Malaysian market.

Chery Auto Malaysia president Leo Chen said the accomplishment demonstrates Chery's commitment to improving local manufacturing capabilities, promoting Malaysia's industrial growth, and contributing to the country's transition to a sustainable, electrified automotive future.

He said the OMODA E5, known for its modern design and advanced technology, represents Chery's dedication to delivering high-quality vehicles tailored to the preferences of Malaysian consumers.

"Today's roll-off of Chery's first CKD unit of the OMODA E5 is a testament to our dedication to innovation, quality, and our commitment to the Malaysian market.

"By assembling our cars locally, it not only allows us to provide more competitive pricing but also signifies Chery's long-term commitment in Malaysia, fostering job creation and skill development within the local workforce," he said after the launching ceremony by Deputy Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Ministry (MITI) Liew Chin Tong.


Present was Sime Darby Bhd group chief executive officer Datuk Jeffri Salim Davidson.

Chen added that the initiative is in-line with the government's policy of localisation compliance and will support and assist Malaysia to become a regional hub for electric vehicles.

In his speech, Liew remarked that the launching of Chery OMODA E5 is a milestone in Malaysia's automotive industry.

"As of 30 September 2024, there are 32,543 Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) registered on Malaysian roads. However, 98% of these BEVs are imported as Completely Built-Up (CBU) units.

"Before this, only Volvo and Mercedes-Benz assembled EVs locally. With today's launch, Chery becomes another brand to assemble EVs in Malaysia, marking a significant step forward to localise EV production.

"Localising as much as possible in terms of manufacturing of vehicles has a balance of payment dimensions.

"Chery should be congratulated for the fact that 99% of their assembly workforce here are Malaysians," he said.

Liew added that the industrialisation of Malaysia must mean better jobs and better pay for Malaysians, not more jobs for unskilled foreign workers.

"Whenever possible, we should automate more and use more technology, instead of hiring unskilled foreign workers," he said....


So In comparison: Proton and Perodua are slow poke.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 10 2024, 01:00 AM)
https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...assembled-omoda
So In comparison: Proton and Perodua are slow poke.
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Yeah, Chery seems to be the most serious China carmaker in terms of how it views the Malaysian market. They are even releasing a lot of new vehicles albeit mostly ICE. It's good to see that at least 1 China company is taking us seriously. Looking at how things are going, the rest (BYD, MG, Xpeng) don't plan to be here long term since they don't have any plans to CKD their vehicles. So 2025 will be the last year their vehicles will be price competitive. The most obvious one is Bermaz with Xpeng, they don't even bother to prepare brochures and only had 2 outlets upon launching. Quite obvious that they fully expect it to be a hit and run market and don't plan on investing too much.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Nov 11 2024, 11:29 AM)
Yeah, Chery seems to be the most serious China carmaker in terms of how it views the Malaysian market. They are even releasing a lot of new vehicles albeit mostly ICE. It's good to see that at least 1 China company is taking us seriously. Looking at how things are going, the rest (BYD, MG, Xpeng) don't plan to be here long term since they don't have any plans to CKD their vehicles. So 2025 will be the last year their vehicles will be price competitive. The most obvious one is Bermaz with Xpeng, they don't even bother to prepare brochures and only had 2 outlets upon launching. Quite obvious that they fully expect it to be a hit and run market and don't plan on investing too much.
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BYD & MG already have CKD line in Thailand where the volume is much higher than here and can even supply to the entire SEA region. Why, want to spend some huge amount of money again in a low volume country? And looking at what incentives the silly government is giving (or not giving) here, why would they bother?
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Nov 7 2024, 12:51 AM)
It’s an affordable electric car compare to other brand. Quality don’t know yet
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right , too early to say cuz they just launched this ev model
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I thought it should be priced below 100k and I am willing to buy it. I wont touch it now that it is priced above 100K
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QUOTE(r3d2 @ Nov 11 2024, 09:22 PM)
I thought it should be priced below 100k and I am willing to buy it. I wont touch it now that it is priced above 100K
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Rm100k plus we have wide variety of choices
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Nov 11 2024, 11:29 AM)
Yeah, Chery seems to be the most serious China carmaker in terms of how it views the Malaysian market. They are even releasing a lot of new vehicles albeit mostly ICE. It's good to see that at least 1 China company is taking us seriously. Looking at how things are going, the rest (BYD, MG, Xpeng) don't plan to be here long term since they don't have any plans to CKD their vehicles. So 2025 will be the last year their vehicles will be price competitive. The most obvious one is Bermaz with Xpeng, they don't even bother to prepare brochures and only had 2 outlets upon launching. Quite obvious that they fully expect it to be a hit and run market and don't plan on investing too much.
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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Nov 11 2024, 08:05 PM)
BYD & MG already have CKD line in Thailand where the volume is much higher than here and can even supply to the entire SEA region. Why, want to spend some huge amount of money again in a low volume country? And looking at what incentives the silly government is giving (or not giving) here, why would they bother?
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Thailand and Malaysia markets are very different. It suffice to say our neighbour are all out on BEV while ours are still much comfortably resting on ICE's laurels thanks in part to cheap fuel (subsidized) and P1 and P2 given every chance to grow

It turned out due to that we attract different type of investors: Geely, Chery RHD making and from our country's perspective, it is not a bad thing

Because in1H2024 , these 2 still are no 2 and 3 after BYD in terms of Chinese brand making and selling cars


https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-se...t-half-of-2024/


https://www.carsifu.my/news/geely-auto-sees...urge-in-h1-2024

Most recently, Chery is on track to becoming top 10 car maker of the world

https://www.am-online.com/news/chery-on-tra...r-manufacturers


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Not falling behind much, Geely is selling in the first 10M24 a total sales tht has reached 1.7164 million units, up 32% YoY.

http://www.aastocks.com/en/stocks/news/aaf...s/NOW.1393680/2

So being are part of that action from these 2 carmakers surely is a good thing.

Also, never forget this too

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/genera...-risks-overseas

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Perhaps that is why not long ago we actually ...

https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2024/05/15...st-auto-market/

And apparently as at end of September 2024, we are still ahead of Thailand

Malaysia 594,037
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Thailand 438, 659


https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-units-says-maa

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/fla...ailand-by-month

So be proud ?

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 12 2024, 02:00 AM)
Rm100k plus we have wide variety of choices
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What are the competitive prices above 100k we talking about here?

Lets put it below 140k... product that's competitive to e.MAS 7.

I have test driven Atto 3, MG4, MG ZS EV, Dolphin... the e.MAS 7 if priced at 129k... seems like a steal now. Belum lagi test drive, interior build feeling already tapao the rest.

Also test driven the pricier #1 and G6... and I say the competitor would be G6 la... RM165k price tag car. Leapmotor C10 no test drive nearby me.
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BYD & MG already have CKD line in Thailand where the volume is much higher than here and can even supply to the entire SEA region. Why, want to spend some huge amount of money again in a low volume country? And looking at what incentives the silly government is giving (or not giving) here, why would they bother?
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It is what it is. I don't care whether they invest here or not because our automotive policy is quite bad, but I am just cautioning that buyers should be prepared to be left in the lurch once cbu incentive is gone.

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